10 MMA Narratives That Were Dramatically Proven Wrong

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[@AboutMMA_]

No. 1- Chaels "Alleged' losses

[@jbcb7509]

Undefeated and undisputed that’s a real champ

[@stabyourcat]

You'd think after 4 years this joke would get a little stale, but no, it's still fresh as a daisy! I still laugh super hard when another extremely creative MMA fan rehashes it.

[@charlievalentine2220]

This still makes me chuckle u know he is the true undefeated champ 🏆

[@codyarsenault4299]

He let NO ONE close. I mean how do you beat the man with biggest arms in Oregon?

[@giga_chad9]

@@stabyourcat what joke? The only joke are these alleged losses!

[@ald3n507]

If you didn’t know who font or Vera was you’d think that font was the one who absorbed 300 or something strikes

[@bernardomunozmp9874]

Chito's ability to block/absorb punches was clearly shown, also chito's elbows and more damaging significant punches was what destroyed Font face

[@neonbrigador3928]

Large portion of Robs shots landed on Vera’s high guard and counted as significant strikes.

[@bernardomunozmp9874]

@@neonbrigador3928 100% you can clearly see it, or lack of, in chito's face

[@GalactusOG]

Imagine what Chito would do to Omaley in a rematch?

[@anthonyramos9841]

@@GalactusOG Chito has been active fighting top contenders since he beat Sean while Sean has been padding his stats against TRASH CANS but I’m willing to be Sean DOES NOT want to fight Chito anytime soon

[@n1k0abc34]

“You gotta be good at sucker punches, and you gotta have a good 50m dash”- Jorge masvidal

[@CommanderSilence]

🤡🐭

[@branlopgar]

To be fair, he told us several years in advance he's like that and that's how he rolls. If we accepted and made him an MMA superstar despite it, that's really more on us than on him

[@dustingaethje1332]

@@branlopgar Hey, you accepted it. Doesn't mean everyone did.

[@branlopgar]

@@dustingaethje1332 Maybe not everyone, but a pretty sizable part of the MMA community did. He was a really popular fighter, UFC 244 and 251 sold like hot cakes and no negative press when he started his own promotion. It was until Usman KO'd him and Covington had wars against Roid-man that the narrative started to change and Masvidal started to lose popularity. Then he supported Jake Paul before his boxing fight with Askren (again, no surprises there. Masvidal hates Askren's guts and no wonder he helped anyone to train for a fight with him) and that's when the narrative against Masvidal got rolling. And it didn't help that Covington dominated him comfortably before the sucker punch. But before all this, Masvidal was the man, and we already knew he has a knack for sucker punching mfers

[@JebeTheGreat]

WMMA is not so different from the heavyweights. Both have some quality talent, but beyond the elite the dropoff is pretty massive.

[@jacksdad734]

Yeah. Go look at the rankings. It fluffed up by having a lot of the girls ranked in several divisions.

[@branlopgar]

With that one, I feel it was the least accurate take in the video. With all the women's fights we have been getting, even among the elites, we have seen far more stinkers than bangers. For every Weili vs Joanna we have three Gaethje vs Chandler, and for every Ngannou vs Lewis we also get two Namajunas vs Esparza 2. At 125 Valentina reigns supreme, but her reign has two duds (Carmouche and Maia), a fight that should not have gone to the fourth round (Murphy), two dominations (Chookagian and Andrade) and a murder (Eye) that naturally is the one clip they always play when it comes to Valentina. And this is talking about the #1 P4P female. I get it, everyone has off nights, but for elite levels, those off nights can't be this bad. And also the fighters are not held to the same standard as men. You can't have a fighter, no matter how good of a submission wizard you think you are, start hard sparring until you get to the ranked opponents.

[@mortyjames5897]

and at least with heavyweights you at least get KOs

[@cristiandelvillar3121]

@@mortyjames5897 and have slow, sluggish, grappling-free, kick-less yawnfests

[@dxburner222]

@@cristiandelvillar3121 still better than wmma

[@thirtythree504]

You guys kinda failed to debunk some of these

[@thehighcommunity247]

"The stand-off with Derrick Lewis that we won't talk about, followed up by First round murder town until his rematch with Stipe..." First Round Murder Town...I can dig it.

[@yesbutactuallyno8305]

What about Murder Death Kill???

[@dcvideos4721]

Great comment

[@thehighcommunity247]

@@dcvideos4721 💯🤙 Good Looks My G!!

[@Operation3Sixty]

Is anyone tracking referee stats? Given reffing is so subjective, i'd be interested in seeing how refs compare to eachother. How quick they are to stand the fighters up, how quick they are to stop the fight due to strikes, early vs late stoppage tendencies... etc

[@tabasco.15]

Where are your likes?!

[@Jeepsteve1982]

Yeah then maybe we could finally establish that Herb Dean is the worst referee in the history of athletic competition.

[@waves1all1day1er1day]

They don’t keep ref stats because certain refs would have huge stats in certain categories like stoppages simply due to their seniority thus reffing mostly super fights where fighters are harder hitting or overall more skilled. Which would make the refs stats look a certain way just cuz they always ref the best fights

[@desyncer]

@@Jeepsteve1982 Herb has a lot of questionable reffing moments but he would never beat Steve "a heart beat is intelligent defense" Mazzagatti

[@swifty123]

Top 10 narratives that were proven right: - Pat Barry always comments “first” here because he likes getting to the videos while they’re young and early

[@youknow2849]

Lol

[@michaelthomas8147]

There's very little difference between Joshua Fabia and Pat Barry.

[@PerfectPanels9]

I remember when DC said "Francis is doing jiu jitsu" 💀😂

[@ethanedwards7756]

I feel like that’s what everyone was thinking during that moment. One of my more casual friends I was watching with said “isn’t this the guy that knocks peoples heads off?” After the takedown

[@getintheflask]

He did finish with a Kimura earlier in his UFC career

[@champ1159]

Francis has a bunch subs, that's because in France it was illegal to do GnP

[@NoiseBombS14]

Uncle Chael proving everyone wrong about Anderson Silva being unstoppable is number 1. I already know it Undefeated and Undisputed

[@tonbog1053]

Word around the camp fire was White told him not to "Iron Mike finish him to fast" for the numbers hints what happened in the rematch. I might be wrong but the gym can be a sowing circle

[@tonbog1053]

Still love Chael our MMA Ric Flair

[@listenup7284]

That's stupid considering Chael got stopped in both Anderson Silva flights.

[@NoiseBombS14]

@@listenup7284 No he didn’t. Run the fights back. He stopped Anderson in both fights

[@10secondlaughs96]

Francis was a sizeable betting favorite against Stipe in the rematch

[@Vitoloko210]

He was a favorite in both, the narrative that he is only a KO artist was still present however.

[@madgavin7568]

Most of the fans thought Stipe was going to get the job again though. Turns out the bookies actually got it right and the fans got it wrong.

[@PrinceIsot]

The hardcores weren't sold

[@applethunderspice3072]

This is why scoring damage is so crucial and a 10-9 must system for mma works but is also bizarrely inefficient

[@God_of_Destruction_Kakarot]

It's hilarious that there's people that still think the beef with Colby and Jorge is fake! They are choosing to quadruple down and die on that Hill LOL

[@umungus518]

I can honestly say that when the fight was first announced i thought it was fake lol but I was proven wrong. Its sad though because I was a masvidal fan until he attacked Colby out in public. No respect for him after that.

[@alexisafox]

Bruh.. never in my life would I have thought Kamaru "30%" Usman would become one of the most exciting fighters to watch in the UFC. Little did we know he really was using only 30% of his skillset on the way up

[@myrontate3937]

Exactly

[@spensermitchell4106]

He’s mentally strong

[@EmmeryMyers]

Usman had the exciting reign Woodley seemed primed for, Woodley had Usman's boring reign.

[@gttrmgc3284]

The only entertaining thing that Usman has done was get knocked out by Leon. shrug

[@adabsurdum5905]

Tommy I love your work and value your opinion so much, but the fact you ever considered that Forrest Griffin was going to beat Anderson Silva is downright silly.

[@l9o6p7a3k4a]

At the time it wasn’t.

[@GalactusOG]

He was beating legends near their primes back then. You must be new.

[@dubiousdevil9572]

@@l9o6p7a3k4a It was though. Forrest never really was all that great and everybody following the sport knew Anderson was on a whole different level. At least I knew that.

[@l9o6p7a3k4a]

@@MultiSlowjamz you must be new lmfao if you followed more than just the casual perspective of Silva you’d know at the time Anderson looked like he was trash and Forrest was the well rounded young gun on a win streak with a couple of give or take loses vs 2 HOFers in Tito and jardine

[@GalactusOG]

​@@dubiousdevil9572 Forest had recently beaten a slew of champions and legends that nobody gave him a chance against. So people really thought that maybe he could pull it off. Stop being such casuals.

[@CYMotorsport]

4:05 mate I’ve heard you quite literally say this yourself. You were consistent in that it’s not true in your opinion but fans do persistently think this. I wanna say it was in a video about title reigns or something to that effect. Not saying you think that, but you absolutely went on about it in a condescending ( rightfully so) way. I too think it’s dumb but it does exist.

[@ClownScript]

@mVP get the ball rolling lol

[@standingappa1160]

what are you talking about?

[@jeremyweems4916]

I just read this in a British accent. I'm American.

[@Havok999]

@@jeremyweems4916 same cus he used the word “mate”

[@balkanboi06]

Also Jose Aldo literally did the same thing as Chito did with Font. Lmfao Font ended up being nearly finished a bunch of times in his last two fights even with more strikes landed which did barely much.

[@shadowwolf2713]

Yea aldo got beat up pretty bad by font shot for chitos legs cause chito would kill aldo in a five rounder

[@mmacaine]

@@shadowwolf2713 idk about that. Aldo destroyed Chito.

[@beeno3487]

gotta say, as a wrestler, watching colby and usman "wrestle people to death" was absolutly mind blowing, and not just people, world class strikers. I was put into wrestling when i was 6. when i was 17 i saw colby covington for the 1st time, just wrestle and manhandle someone that could easily take his head off with a good punch, and thats how i got into mma. thats also when i realized that wrestling is indeed a martial art and an incomplete one at that. add kickboxing and bjj and your an mma fighter :)

[@siontifictm7366]

Nothing mind blowing about it. Anyone can hold someone down, it’s impressive when they look for subs or gnp

[@beeno3487]

@@siontifictm7366 yes chimiev held burns down so easily. And Colby held usman down the entire fight. Easy.

[@schultemeister6975]

@@siontifictm7366 not true it’s very hard to hold someone down who’s the same size or bigger unless your a wrestler

[@3starbadman]

@@beeno3487 "Just hold them down, bro, it's literally just gravity bro, it's ez bro" lmao

[@Ooga_Boogaaaaa]

The thing is narratives change due to fighters actions. Usman has talked about increasing his ko rate relight before he KO burns. So not that narrative is wrong necessarily

[@tabasco.15]

Agreed, I suppose he's going off of the people that to this day call him Snoozman for some reason.

[@numa2k147]

Narratives are made by people simply stating their opinions, nothing more. And should be taken as such

[@braydenyap7455]

The striking stats did tell the tale in the Vera fight, one had 3 KD and one didn't...

[@mrImAwesome485]

Hate to talk about statistics on a video literally dedicated to debunking them, but WMMA in the UFC only has 2 knockouts across all their divisions so far this year. Lightweight had the same amount of knockouts on the Blachovicz/Rakic (the most recent) card

[@user-mt2jm7vy6i]

Looking at last Namajunas title fight... Yeah, this divs are boring AF. Every single female headliner this year did put me to sleep.

[@PrinceIsot]

And that still doesn't change the list entry or it's validity. Divisions go through dry spells, happened to the WW division when none of the top ten guys were fighting each other happened with the HW division twice now and LHW.

[@tbriecheese]

recency bias at its finest lmao

[@DJjune7]

Early stages of a youtube video comment section: weirdos ENSAMBLE!!!

[@Hunter-os5yx]

“Fedor only fought cans” is the biggest joke ever he literally beat every great HW on earth during his reign. Prime Fedor also murders Couture. Dana is lucky that fight never happened.

[@carphucker2973]

Nah. His shit was a stage show bro.

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

@@carphucker2973 you can say that same thing about great fighters in the UFC, with amount of shady shit that been going on with Jon Jones career for example

[@jameshaygreen6400]

@@carphucker2973 best heavyweight roster at the time was in Pride by far

[@Nick1994H]

Everyday you guys don't upload there's a 10-15min window where idk what to do with myself. Love to see it. Keep up the great work

[@jg5004]

You guys are so close to 1M subs!

[@TA-hf6si]

Some of these were a bit of a stretch :p Great vid tho

[@ives3572]

Really funny and at the same time really ironic how Justin Gaethje labeled Charles Oliveira a coward and a quitter leading up to the fight, only to get knocked down first before being forced to quit under Charles' RNC. So happy for Charles that he has overcame and conquered despite his troubles in the weigh-ins, still the undisputed champion for me and no screwed up .5 missed weight will change that!🇧🇷🏆🙌👏 If he manages to succeed in pulling off the win over a formidable opponent that is Islam Makhachev next, he's passed Khabib in terms of lightweight GOAT status for me.

[@reservoirfrogs2177]

Beating Islam would make him completely indisputably the lightweight G.O.A.T Something I would never have ever considered 3 years ago

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

"He is a quitter" oh wait I have to tap and quit cause I'm choking - funny shit. Seriously tho, Gaethje wasn't kidding when he said he trains BJJ once a week.

[@therezzman4806]

When he beats Islam, he will be the lightweight GOAT for everyone in the sport. They can cry until their tears get dry but nothing will change that fact when it happens

[@MynameisBrianZX]

Gaethje is known to be full of shit when he’s trashtalking. Take his previous title shot, he kept talking about how his folkstyle wrestling was going to neutralize Khabib, knowing full well he has actively avoided wrestling his whole UFC career and called wrestling in MMA a bitch move.

[@tmerchead1]

When trash talking goes wrong!

[@strise1234]

Tries to debunk that fans aren’t thrilled about small fighters, then tries to debunk that fans aren’t thrilled about women’s mma by comparing their low finish rate to the previous mentioned small fighters.

[@Malygosblues]

Yeah I thought it was really weird how Flyweight was portrayed as this electrifying division. When it has mild hype at best.

[@Lukas-ri3le]

So this episode so awesomely worded. Love it :D

[@axlefoxe]

Love this channel

[@thedankswordsmantm]

I always hated the narrative that Demetrius was beating bad fighters. Or should I say that without him the division was empty? I thought the Cejudo fight proved that there was a ton of talent at 125. But DJ was just that good. Because Henry tore through most of the division as well before getting demolished against DJ the first time. Lost a split to Benevidez and then tore through everyone again before his controversial win over DJ. I was really sad we never got DJ vs Cejudo 3. And now look at the division it's fucking wild. Could you imagine if DJ, Cejudo and even Sérgio Pettis were still there to mix it up with KKF, Moreno, Figuredo, Askarov and the ilk? It wouldn't be quite as deep as 135 or 155, but it would be comparable to 145 or 185. I just think people literally can't comprehend what is going on in a 125 fight and they don't like the idea of a 5'3" man that could crush you. Also no one complained that Anderson was beating nobodies when he was on his champ run..... The criticism just never made sense to me.

[@Hempujonsito]

DJ fought cans like Ray Borg defending his belt on fight nights LMFAO Thankfully King Henry saved the division and fought guys DJ ran from *cough* Dillashaw *cough*

[@HunterGargoyle]

I always said Anderson Silva never fought anyone good i also found Silva to be a clown show, the devisions were empty without DJ or Silva...

[@aleksandrilarionov6545]

@@HunterGargoyle Silva was a marvel to watch fight, his record speaks for itself, the "cans" argument doesn't make sense, defending the belt usually means defending from a top contender, who was in his division isn't up to him, sometimes there can be barren divisions but I think Silva is an all-time great

[@HunterGargoyle]

@@aleksandrilarionov6545 all Silva did in his fights was clown around, there was no one any good at middleweight to give him even minor trouble, put Anderson Silva in Pride's 185 devision he'd have been destroyed by Vanderlei and all the other top guys there

[@HunterGargoyle]

@@aleksandrilarionov6545 he was boring to watch

[@Arseni118]

I dont think the issue with Kamaru is that he's bad or boring we can all agree he's fantastic, but it's his personality. Idk man something about him really rubs me the wrong way, like he's trying so hard to be liked and it comes off either inauthentic or desperate. Idk man, I guess I just don't like the dude.

[@IncredibleMD]

Those rivalries were exciting solely due to the exciting rivals he had. Jorge Masvidal could have a more interesting rivalry with himself than Kamaru Usman could with a fighter who wasn't carrying him.

[@benji8215]

I loved the newspaper graphic at the start,v well done

[@keaganlockwood9294]

This video was so much fun. “Murder Death Killed Dan Hooker.” 🤣🤣🤣

[@10secondlaughs96]

These weren't narratives. Anderson was -460 against Chael, -675 against Maia, -330 against Forrest

[@ViniciusRodrigues534]

What makes you think that bets aren't part of the narrative? Actually, this bets shows how the narrative was strong in that time.

[@Hempujonsito]

@@ViniciusRodrigues534 oh boy, if you think bookies buy into narratives, you're actually clueless

[@viljamtheninja]

@@Hempujonsito If you think they don't, you're even more clueless. Unless you're saying that literally every fight is rigged and literally every bookie knows it.

[@viljamtheninja]

Odds hardly say everything. Lots of fans don't bet or even pay much attention to the odds, narratives have lives of their own. Hell, just KZbin MMA has tons of narratives all of its own, completely irrelevant about odds.

[@yoorenzo4562]

I literally thought my PlayStation controller died when I seen the notification at 1:35-1:40.😂😂😂

[@brunoacevedo4686]

Got the like purely for the happy can putt line

[@FightNightFellow]

I can BARELY be considered a "casual" fan by most fans, but nearly every single video these people release, I can call out some things that are just blatantly wrong

[@Hudson2000]

“DualShock disconnected” Yep I was the very few that was effected by this

[@MrDude180]

Hmm a fair amount of these were proven right before being "proven" wrong

[@extreame7304]

Forgot to mention that Nunes sold 5 ppvs in total

[@drewgamezzz8482]

And the Charles Olivera story is the most impressive story in the UFC today honestly, and you just can’t sit here and say that man isn’t the best in the world now imo. And I feel he’s on such a roll and also such a monster on the ground and also has great striking, I do believe a fight with him and Khabib would be a lot closer than most would think, and also I really do believe that he could beat Khabib, but that’s just one well sadly never get to see so. But love or hate him, n9 one can sit there and say he isn’t the best 155 in the UFC and that he doesn’t deserve the belt, cause I couldn’t think of someone who deserves it more. Also don’t even get me started on that “missing weight” bs. I remember seeing in twitter a couple fighters saying they were told that the scales were a half pound off, and there is a scale out in the back that they step on before going out to do the official weigh ins, and you can’t make me believe he wasn’t on weight before going out there and then the scale was off and he missed cause of the Bs scales and now he has to get his belt back that he never really lost imo. But anyway, all that matters is he won and he’s still the one in control of his career and still the person who is about to contend for the fight again.

[@andrehughes7303]

No doubt man well said . Can’t wait for his next war ! 🇧🇷⚔️

[@drewgamezzz8482]

@@andrehughes7303 same here, I wasn’t a huge fan of his for a while, but man he has gained all of my respect in his last 4 or 5 fights, and I dk anyone on the roster that o would bet on against him tbh. I mean he’s already beat all of the best ones the division has to offer other than Islam, and I think he can take him too tbh.

[@fanoffighting4283]

great release!!!

[@Pauaw]

You guys should do a top ten wildest press conferences

[@blitheringrando1410]

Font looked like he got beat into a gang but they didn't want him to make it...

[@fmb1013]

FIGHT BACK FIGHT BACK

[@TheRealOTK]

Loved the little Street Beefs reference 😂

[@alliancewhitemusic9682]

Amazing content as always . Making mma more popular

[@yarpyepiddy]

#6 (women’s mma) absolutely has not been proven wrong. There’s one good fight to every 25 fights, and that’s being generous.

[@IncredibleMD]

Comparing the women's divisions to the divisions you just had to argue weren't snoozefests was an odd rhetorical tactic to employ. Yeah, Weili vs. Joanna is great, but one good fight doesn't prove anything anything more than Anderson Silva vs. Demian Maia proves Silva was a shitty champ. Hell, Silva easily makes up 30% of the Top Ten Worst Title Fights, and he's still talked about as one of the sport's legendary champs.

[@BigSteve9713]

Nope, it's been proven Wrong, you just hate

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

@@BigSteve9713 yeah, not too long ago we had that banger between Rose and Carla or did we? Idk, I felll asleep after second round of that shitshow

[@lowerclassbrats77]

Were they invalidated or were they proven to be accurate most of the time🤔

[@Sleepingfishie]

Do top 10 MMA countries. Based on fighter’s, history, etc.

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

Brazil, USA, maybe then Russia (Fedor, Khabib, couple other good fighters)

[@joeygelling9199]

Lol Tommy! Dude that “uh oh Happy learned how to putt” line was fucking great. Extra likes for you bro. 😂😂😂

[@MMAJesus420]

Quality 👏🏼

[@yourwifewasinmedms5137]

Lol imagine thinking the best strategy against a counter striker is pressure. Of course Anderson Silvia an elite counter striker is going to capitalize on forest Griffin charging forward with punches

[@ChainsGone2012]

Exactly... Like no one saw the Chris Leaben fight as his first UFC fight. The only thing that made any Silva fight "boring" was fighters who wouldn't engage. Personally I think it's dumb... he's a counter striker, what do you expect. Plus Maia makes most fights look bad if he's not getting the finish b/c no one wants to engage on the ground and he has zero standup.

[@pantherhd1]

I fought MMA and boxing left sport unbeaten with my last fight finsh by 1st round 30 second knock out.And everything works on different fighters.Forest griffin is not best striker NOW pressure a counter striker work don’t tell me bout Chris Leben or anybody.Simply because pressure work at right time that’s What Chris Weidman done in there fights.And also pressure Cheal sonnen pressure In to land takedowns

[@yourwifewasinmedms5137]

@@pantherhd1 mean you’re talking about a totally different type of pressure now…pressure wrestling is completely different than what forest griffin does… come on dude. In the realm of stand up if you pressure and elite counter striker with zero threat of take down and on top of that you your self are just a good striker at best then you’re going to get finished.

[@pantherhd1]

@@yourwifewasinmedms5137 I don’t know if you fought or not.But not true the best style to go against a counter Fighter in average who holds the middle.I know I coached Fighter and I was Known and not blow myself feared has pressure fighter.I use do all style that be counter striker in begin of around them pressure them holding middle.And some best Knock Out have been on counter strikers I pressure with jab and body and combine Jab left hook.Or use the left side of my body and walking them on to Headkick off 3 to 5 or 7 hit combo

[@pantherhd1]

@@yourwifewasinmedms5137 I see you Play UFC games but how many UFC Fighter you put to sleep on curren roster.I’m not gonna state my identity.The Last Time I was seen a UFC Fighter he was teaching a class and he shouted my name telling people what use to do.I’m a hell Fighter trust me I’ve pressure in into group on street knock them out.I don’t want give to many tips.if they not grappler the leg kick and body punch mess counter striker up.There waiting for counters if not Anderson Silva or Chuck it’s dangerous game.Specially when the plan is not throw strike or combo that’s seen on video

[@aaronandcaitlinnelson5617]

You make a great case but I'm just not into WMMA. Do the ratings keep up with the men? Just curious if I'm an outlier.

[@bransen2099]

Can I say, I really appreciated the Backstreet Boys callback during the GSP return

[@shaggyfights494]

That STREETBEEFS clip was of lord choppa😂 I was there for that lol

[@matthewjswider]

“Controller disconnected” was the best Easter egg you’ve ever had in a video.

[@user-zd9rt8cs4g]

I like how you mentioned O malley biggest success being famous within tiktok (DE)generation

[@grantg610]

The beginning of #2 was gold!!!

[@davidallen9580]

Happy knows how learned to putt 😂 I love this channel

[@jaykemper]

I watched that first Sonnen-Silva fight live in a packed sports bar. It was absolutely insane.

[@guusama3404]

about the % part between wmma and actual mma(IAM KIDDING), in any case, yes the % are similar, but it comes from the same 2 or 3 fighters in wmma, while in men it comes from anyone at any point...thats why the narrative is still true, most mma fights you watch will not end on a finish, and you know from who to expect a finish, so you dont go for cofe during a cyborg fight or rose or andrade...and you never go for cofe on a male fight, because thats what made this sport huge, the truth on Dana's remark about a fight breaking out during any other sport...

[@aaronbethel03]

Even if the finish rate is the same there not there technically and aren't willing to scrap so most of there fights are boring e.g Rose vs esparza

[@Skullet]

​@@aaronbethel03 Rose vs Esparza is one fight, there are countless similarly boring fights between men who were technically less skilled than a lot of their female counterparts.

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

@@Skullet but those guys were very rarely fighting for belts!

[@Nossirrah18]

Okay but I want that video about fighters dancing that’d be spectacular

[@captainobvious2538]

I just was watching this on my PS4 and I had to come back on my phone to comment on how tripped out I was when the dualshock 4 disconnected thing came up 🤣

[@kermitthefragg]

Charlie Olives might be the best throw away comment ever made at press conference, it's become such a deeplyl engrained part of mma lore lmao

[@jurgenpergega7451]

Congrats on the new office. 👍

[@juliantoocold]

"uhhh ohhh Happy has learned to putt" just a fucking sick reference

[@patmurphy8622]

“First round murder town” .. writing that one down 😂

[@JO-rx7go]

Hands outstretched.......still waiting for that cold one

[@ADunc10]

Chael was a master at trolling fans and fighters. Pure entertainment.

[@GARBO96]

"They make up 10% of the roster they get 10% of the bonuses" yeah sounds about right to me what did you expect

[@Malygosblues]

Ikr, he really dropped that stat as if it meant something. Let's also remember that fight bonuses can be awarded arbitrarily, so it's easier to fudge than a fight metric.

[@MOSTBOX]

Please create a video explaining MMA scoring

[@thedankswordsmantm]

I feel like people forget Anderson had a rib injury when he fought Chael. It might have been broken but I forget. It's so hard to breathe, let alone move, let alone fight with rib injuries. And he pulled that shit out from the depths of hell for the win. It's always used as a feather in Chael's cap, but he failed a drug test for being juiced to the gills and got tapped by a guy with a rib injury. The narrative should have been how it proved Anderson isn't just finesse, but also a warrior.

[@jamestoney6599]

I feel like people forget Anderson failed a drug test for a steroid that causes bone brittleness too.

[@madgavin7568]

Anderson was juiced to the gills as well. He's not innocent of using steroids, he simply got away with it until he eventually popped.

[@ChainsGone2012]

Exactly

[@KABAR1943]

Anderson also juiced my guy

[@judestinks]

True, but also Anderson was juiced up too

[@eightyduece5980]

Please do a list about stats on who dances before entering the octagon

[@dave1927p]

i listen to each new one while in bed to help me wind down and get some rest

[@KeefeL]

The Ngannou narrative was absolutely true until it wasn't. I love technical fights - that's what I find entertaining as a fight fan. But you can't deny that knocking Rozenstruik out with windmill arms in such a short amount of time, was not fucking hilarious at the moment. Particularly with the knowledge that Bigi Boi is an extremely technical striker. Now though, Ngannou is unstoppable with his much more refined fight game, that has good wrestling defence AND offense

[@winsalot84]

You don't think there is a reason he did that to bigi boy though? He knew he could. It's situational. Ever since the first Stipe fight he has been situational. To his detriment against Derrick Lewis.

[@KeefeL]

@@winsalot84 isn't that the whole point of the original comment? He has improved greatly in MMA. At the time of the Rozenstruik fight, it's not that "he knew he could". He can still put anyone down with a flurry. The hilarity in this was that he didn't know how to win a fight any other way. Now he's one hell of a champion

[@jamesf8507]

by "technical" do you mean being huge and laying on Cyril Gane, doing nothing while getting damaged and having a sub attempted on him?

[@KeefeL]

@@jamesf8507 I suppose wrestling is laying on the ground. Maybe, stick to kickboxing

[@brettwright6504]

To be fair Francis was nothing but a hard Punch up until that second stipe fight

[@yoshiatsamo]

Thought my ps4 controller disconnected 😂

[@malcolmcampbell8787]

Love the venom shirt

[@Ricardo_Muna_Singh_716]

"Sometimes the numbers do lie" ???? - Go try telling that to Big Poppa Pump

[@dudeduderson8046]

I disagree that using the absolute best of the best women's fights as an example that ALL the women's fights are worth while. When its good, its good, but when its bad, its REALLY BAD. Saying its "roughly the same" as their male counterparts is also just a cope because they are not, the numbers mater.

[@westendlolo3313]

I remember being a young child and new to mma seeing Anderson drop Forrest in the way he did mesmerized me lol

[@rat4992]

Terrifying in a Lovecraftian way? What are you talking about there is nothing Lovecraftian about being talented and heavy handed

[@nathanchristman6660]

love that happy gilmore reference

[@Tony-gy1iy]

talm bout naradive B? Dicey dicey

[@mcflappers3488]

Usman is still boring the only time he even has a semi entertaining fight it’s bc the opponent brings it

[@drewgamezzz8482]

@14:00 well technically his weakness was everybody’s favorite uncle, Chael Sonnen and Uncle Chael pounding on him for literally 24:30 seconds lol. And yeah he technically won with the choke, but I mean Chael laid out the blueprint to beat Anderson really, just for some reason no one other than Chael did what he did and just kept taking him down, dominating him on the ground refusing to let him up and really refusing to let him breathe or catch a full breath without Chael raining down blow after blow after blow. I feel any of the ones who lost to Anderson after that were kinda not that smart for just going out there and implementing a similar game plan against him, except not getting too comfy in the last minutes and letting him get that choke on them. Anyway, that was still my favorite Anderson Silva fight up until the part where he won, that and the Michael Bisping fight lmao. Anyway, Chanel laid out the perfect example of what to do to Anderson and it baffled me that people would get I’m there and still just refuse to take advantage of that gameplan and Just continue to try and strike with one of, if not the absolute best striker to ever exist in the UFC ever.

[@skindred1888]

I dunno, I'd say that bisping done a better job of showing Anderson's weaknesses. That guy must've feinted a thousand times in the fight.

[@drewgamezzz8482]

@@skindred1888 idk, I mean, Bisoing did a great job against him, but most would argue Anderson won that fight in any other country, while we can all agree the fordt Silva v sonnen fight, if not for that hail Mary trianlge, sonnen won without a doubt.

[@lowerclassbrats77]

To be fair the UFC usually (not always) lets fighters go when they're on the down turn so losing in another org isn't wholly unexpected.

[@1337menno]

It happend the other way around. When the WEC got bought and joined the UFC. The WEC guys showed all the UFC fanboys.

[@ChainsGone2012]

@@1337menno... Exactly, same with Strikeforce. They came in a wrecked their divisions in the UFC.

[@dubstepXpower]

@@ChainsGone2012 exactly this wierd narrative that UFC fighters are better just because is false. UFC is more American and brazil focussed.

[@ChainsGone2012]

@@dubstepXpower the UFC is the best league and probably has the highest concentration of great fighters, but that doesn't mean it has the BEST fighters always. N

[@icantthinkofacoolname1308]

hmmmmm i think a video of fighters who won when dancing would be a great video

[@stan9918]

man my heart breaks for uncle cheal

[@RustiekeRakker]

Face turned to ground beef lmao hahahaha

[@budddwyer1269]

You know wmma is pathetic when joanna vs weili is the only fight that ever gets brought up

[@ubong1293]

lol most of these narratives are definitely still true

[@andrewsexton5051]

I don’t know Tommy. The title says dramatically proven wrong but it seems most of your examples are the exception rather than the rule

[@BlackishSayian]

“Happy learned to putt”. Hahah so true

[@runryerun8789]

Few really care about 125 especially after Figuiredo/Moreno/Kara-France. So there is a lot of truth to that

[@Malygosblues]

That's not entirely true, there's also... ...um... the fleeting memory of Henry Cejudo and Mighty Mouse?

[@hunterwolf6898]

What

[@NWAEAZY]

Royval is entertaining as fuck, Pantoja has a lot of ko power, Manel Kape and Mokaev are rising stars, and there’s other’s examples.

[@alexshapiro6812]

Please make a video on Rose and Pat Barry. Someone needs to talk about it

[@elizabethgeorge168]

"First round Murder Town" Bravo sir, bravo 😆👏

[@PrinceIsot]

Leon Edwards vs Kamaru Usman is one of my most anticipated upcoming fights, and any Top 5 LW matchup lol

[@abrahanchahin4921]

1:43 bro charge your controller