10 Reasons Why We Chose Malaysia over Singapore

[@peggyhiew1730]

I'm a Malaysian Chinese & have been to San Francisco about 40 years ago for a holiday.I loved it there but never thought that a city can change to what it's today.I'm now living in Kuantan,Pahang on the east coast of Peninsula Malaysia.It's less hectic here & has many beautiful beaches.Hope that one day you'll be able to visit Kuantan.

[@Huanga1]

@@peggyhiew1730 yes since I'm a diver I'm very interested in the islands there. Will plan a visit soon!

[@vwchan841]

SF is coming back slowly. I will still have a house there in case I do want to move back there instead of the peninsula when in US and Penang.

[@Huanga1]

@@vwchan841 if you already have a house then that's great. Do you plan to rent it out if you're away?

[@vwchan841]

@@Huanga1 No, rental rules are a tad strict so will leave it vacant. I have a studio that is on the property that is rented out so that person can watch the place for me.

[@Feliyam]

Nice I’m actually moving there too from US

[@Huanga1]

@@Feliyam cool what state?

[@ysg-k5p]

At 3:00, you don't have to pay 60% foreigner tax as a US citizen thanks to the free trade agreement between US-SG. You will receive the same treatment as a a Singapore citizen.

[@Brisamars-q1c]

Listen my friend, I made a decision a couple of decades ago and settled in Malaysia over Singapore where I was offered a high paying job. I chose a little chaos and uncertainty over the expensive sterility and the one track mindset that exists there. The tremble and obey towards authority just restricted my sense of freedom-just wasn't for me. Man, my wife and I had such a wonderful 10+ years, the best in our lives up till then. We explored China, S E Asia, Bali etc to our heart's content. I ended up with owning two condo apartments in Bangsar/Damansara Heights which i still have today. KL is where you taste life to the fullest late into the evenings. Friends are instantly made, respect is instantly awarded. Freedom to do anything, to succeed with whatever you're doing....no one's stopping you, after the paperwork is sorted, that is. We are dying to get back! KL has vastly improved since. Good luck.🎉

[@Huanga1]

@@Brisamars-q1c won that's inspiring! I'm very much looking forward to the life you described so eloquently.

[@Brisamars-q1c]

When dealing with locals you do need some patience, often with department store staff, maids, delivery men, communication is mostly intuitive but you'll soon adapt-no long sentences in English, just straight to the subject...no conditional tense...of course with people of your level, it's fine. Nonetheless, once you get over this, it's smooth sailing.

[@Huanga1]

@@Brisamars-q1c haha thanks! Keep things concise. 👍

[@yougohgoh1]

@@Brisamars-q1c great advice, kudos!

[@rompinku]

I think, by this time, after reading all the comments, you already knew which place to start a new life with family. People factor and surrounding environment also play a very important factor for your healthy and happy lifestyle. If you have tonnes of money but live a unbalanced life, surrounded by stressful people, no kindness, money first mentality, happy life would be a very shortlived

[@Huanga1]

@@rompinku thank you. Yes I totally agree

[@mikechan5915]

Spot on. If you plan to buy a car, Desa Parkcity is definitely the best choice and close to nature. If you are a city slicker, Mont Kiara is convenient.

[@hyzeinkem7536]

I live right smack in-between the two and I get to enjoy the best of both worlds!

[@Huanga1]

@@mikechan5915 good to know. We'll explore DPC next time we're in KL 👍

[@xiaomashitu]

Singapore to Work Malaysia to Live 😊

[@sart3735]

😂. That doesn't really work for more senior white collar professionals. Imagine you have to queue up everyday at the causeway. Not realistic. I always laugh at this stupid idea.

[@wongkokkiong4847]

Is that means Malaysia low income.

[@Huanga1]

@@xiaomashitu the best would be to work remotely for a western company while living in Malaysia 😃

[@vjm7540]

​@@wongkokkiong4847 currency exchange lah ayoooo

[@chinhowlim1363]

@@Huanga1 that would be the best. Do come visit us in Kuching

[@mingwu1133]

If you are young and seeking for money , Singapore is your choice. If you are seeking for a good retire life, Malaysia is your choice.

[@Huanga1]

@@mingwu1133 very well put. Or if you're raising a family with children.

[@sewa075ku7]

Not really. You can get both in Malaysia. Retirement in Malaysia is just too late.

[@Huanga1]

@ do you mean the retirement age is too late?

[@vtanson2724]

There are so many successful entrepreneurs in Malaysia. One doesn't have to seek money in Singapore.

[@Huanga1]

@ I hope to be one myself!

[@tg988]

Welcome to Malaysia. So many migrants coming to here. Suitable for family of four. Suitable locations: 1.Desa Park City - Little expensive, expats community, park for dog, variety food outlet and pubs, condos, landed homes. 2.Mont Kiara - Little expensive, expats community, international schools, variety food outlet and pubs, condo living. 3.Penang - Street food heaven, expats community, Chinese majority area, international schools, beach lover. 4.KLCC & Bukit Bintang - Little expensive, city hub, international schools, metro transportation. 5.Ampang - Embassy area, expats community, many internationa schools, metro transportation, very near to CBD. 6.Bangsar, Bangsar South, & Damansara Heights - Expats community, international schools, metro transporation. Malaysia is suitable for entrepreneurs, business community due to low-cost startup and affordable retirement destination. Singapore is suitable for emplyoment due to favorable currency exchange rate.

[@jasmineong7776]

@@tg988 All the bubbled Expats community 😂😂😂

[@Huanga1]

@@tg988 thanks! Wow you rated DPC as #1!

[@NomosPocus]

Sinkapore is the ideal 15 minute city of the WEF. Total and easy control of the population. It is just a big concrete expensive shopping mall in a tiny piece of rock in South East Asia. Malaysia is 100x better with it's rich natural resources, clean air, rich cultural heritage and tradition, friendly people and large land size. U made the absolute right choice.

[@Huanga1]

@@NomosPocus thanks! Singapore is right for certain people, just not us as a family of 4. 😃

[@ptang85]

Rampant crime, corruption, nepotism and the list goes on…. How does rich natural resources do anything for a family of 4? Gonna make them palm oil farmers? Clean air? Are you the only one with clean air? What a joke.

[@IsniRashid-jy1tb]

​@@Huanga1😂low currency ..come come cheap cheap

[@Huanga1]

@@IsniRashid-jy1tb it is nice to not spend so much and still get amazing food

[@IsniRashid-jy1tb]

@@Huanga1 yea 3R2B condo in putrajaya ioicity mall(second bigest mall asia pasific) Rm 1000/month .

[@Cali415]

Malaysia, such a beautiful, diverse, and tolerant Muslim country. Enjoy!

[@Huanga1]

@@Cali415 thank you! ♥️

[@Danny1234-h2w]

@@EGO0808 saying it’s a muslim country doesn’t contradict the fact it’s multi cultural country lol most natives pribumis here are muslim and muslim are majority here in Malaysia, know our own place and respect each other

[@rvd27u]

​@haebeeb7264 mybe u should respect the constitution of the country. And stop calling it what it not, and alienating the large percentage of population, just for you to feel good

[@Danny1234-h2w]

@@rvd27u which part of it disrespecting the constitution of my country? Why are u so offended with the fact majority of Malaysians are muslim😂

[@hazlinaaminah4456]

​@@Danny1234-h2w Maybe they alleged to hear "Muslim" word.

[@vickalessa]

I'm happy your family decided to leave the US. Ex-Sg'rean here, frequent traveller due to business. Frankly Malaysia still have potential to push for a more competitive economy depending on government agenda. It'll be more interesting to see Malaysia's direction when BRIC partnership was formed. I can only see good prospects.

[@Huanga1]

@@vickalessa thanks! Yes I saw that Malaysia is now a BRICS partner, which should lead to better opportunities in the future

[@vwchan841]

Hi Andy. ABC from San Francisco leaving the Gold Mountain for Malaysia too!!!! I will be in Penang. KL is too urban/busy for me (otherwise I would stay home in SF) and does not offer a full sea view like the condo that I just bought in Penang can. We have no kids too. We do plan to spend half the year in the Bay Area and the other half traveling or in Malaysia. Maybe we can meet up once we both settle in over there.

[@Huanga1]

@@vwchan841 hey congrats on getting a condo already! You're leading the way. We liked Penang too and have much more to see there. Really only saw George town.

[@jinlee9018]

Hi handshake🤝 We just bought a condo in Penang as well during our recent trip there. We’re from Phoenix area, thinking about living in Malaysia part time to escape brutal summer heat here😂

[@vwchan841]

@@jinlee9018 Everyone is leaving for Malaysia!!!!!! LOL

[@vwchan841]

@@KimchiMochi-x9q Once I get used to the seasons of both, I shall try to stay in the best seasons of both areas as much as possible. I do feel that my final resting place just might be Penang. I love it so much that I never would have thought a place could pull this San Francisco native away but Penang is awesome baby!!!!!

[@Huanga1]

@@jinlee9018 oh nice. How did you decide on Penang? And was it easy to buy the condo?

[@azuadrazali2803]

The GDP per capita in Singapore is significantly higher than in Kuala Lumpur (KL) and Malaysia overall. However, despite this economic difference, many people still find living in KL to be more appealing due to various factors like cost of living, lifestyle preferences, and cultural diversity. GDP Per Capita Comparison: 1. Singapore: • Singapore has one of the highest GDP per capita in the world. As of 2023, Singapore’s GDP per capita is estimated to be around $82,000 USD. • This reflects the highly developed, advanced economy of Singapore, driven by finance, technology and trade. • However, Kuala Lumpur and its surrounding areas (Klang Valley) are the economic hubs of Malaysia, with a higher GDP per capita compared to the national average. The GDP per capita in KL is estimated to be between $30,000-$35,000 USD, which is still much lower than Singapore’s. Why Living in KL Can Still Be Better Despite Lower GDP Per Capita: 1. Lower Cost of Living: • Affordability is one of the main reasons people prefer living in KL over Singapore. Housing, food, transportation, and everyday expenses are much more affordable in KL. You can rent a comfortable apartment, dine out, and enjoy a good standard of living for much less than what you’d spend in Singapore. • Even though Singapore’s GDP per capita is higher, it comes with a much higher cost of living, particularly in areas like housing, healthcare, and education. In KL, retirees, expatriates, and locals can live comfortably without needing to earn as much as they would in Singapore. 2. Housing and Real Estate: • Property prices in KL are much lower than in Singapore. Whether you are renting or buying, KL offers more affordable options with bigger spaces. In Singapore, real estate is some of the most expensive in the world, and many people end up living in small apartments. • In KL, you can afford a spacious condo or even a landed house in many areas for a fraction of the cost of an equivalent home in Singapore. 3. Cultural Diversity and Lifestyle: • KL offers a rich blend of cultures and traditions due to its diverse population of Malays, Chinese, Indians, and expatriates. This diversity is reflected in the food, festivals, and everyday life, giving the city a unique charm and variety that appeals to many people. • While Singapore is also multicultural, its fast-paced, urbanized environment can feel more regimented, whereas KL maintains a more laid-back and relaxed atmosphere, which many people find more enjoyable. 4. More Space and Nature: • KL, and Malaysia in general, offers more natural landscapes and space. You can easily access beaches, mountains, and forests without having to travel far from the city. The availability of green spaces and less urban density can lead to a more relaxing lifestyle. • Singapore, being a small city-state, is highly urbanized with limited natural landscapes. While it has beautiful parks and nature reserves, it doesn’t offer the same variety and scale of outdoor adventures that Malaysia does. 5. Healthcare Costs: • Healthcare in KL is both high-quality and affordable. Malaysia’s healthcare system, especially in private hospitals, is known for offering excellent services at reasonable prices, which attracts many medical tourists. • In Singapore, while the healthcare system is world-class, it can be significantly more expensive, particularly for non-residents or those without access to government subsidies. 6. Food and Dining: • Food in KL is not only diverse but also highly affordable. Street food and local dining options are a huge part of the culture, and you can enjoy excellent meals for much less than in Singapore. • While Singapore is also a food haven, dining out, especially at restaurants, tends to be more expensive, and the overall cost of food can add up quickly. 7. More Affordable Transportation: • Transportation costs in KL are generally lower, and while public transport is still developing, many people find driving to be an affordable and convenient option. Petrol prices in Malaysia are subsidized, making it cheaper to own and use a car compared to Singapore. • In Singapore, cars are extremely expensive due to high taxes and the Certificate of Entitlement (COE) system, which limits the number of vehicles on the road. While Singapore’s public transportation is excellent, owning a car is often out of reach for many due to the high costs. 8. Work-Life Balance: • KL’s slower pace of life can offer a better work-life balance for many, especially those who prefer a more relaxed environment. The lifestyle in KL is generally less intense than in Singapore, where the fast-paced, competitive nature of the workforce can sometimes lead to higher stress levels. • While Singapore offers many opportunities for career growth, some may find the high-pressure environment exhausting over time. In contrast, KL offers a more balanced lifestyle with a good mix of work and leisure. Conclusion: While Singapore is economically more advanced and offers a higher GDP per capita, KL provides a more affordable and relaxed lifestyle, which can be more appealing, especially for those who prioritize cost of living, space, and a laid-back atmosphere. The lower cost of living, affordable housing, and rich cultural diversity make KL an attractive option for those looking for a good quality of life without the financial pressures of living in a high-cost city like Singapore.

[@daddykarl3312]

@@azuadrazali2803 panjang nya dikk....anyway, good information for the Expatriates and Tourist abroad and myself jugaks...👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@akasiakasya6351]

Thank you chat gpt

[@krislee4986]

I totally agree with you , your reasons comparing Malaysia and Singapore is very true right on the spot. Two weeks exploring both countries giving so much correct informations is incredible.I love Malaysia so much better than the small expensive Singapore. The people in Malaysia is so much friendlier than the kiasu Singapore people. To own a simple car in Singapore is not easy because it is very expensive. Car and gas is way much expensiive than in Malaysia. I agree Singapore is well developed and clean but I still prefer to live in Kuala Lumpur. Meaning of developed in English developed

[@Huanga1]

@@krislee4986 thanks! Are you in Malaysia?

[@leealex24]

KL/Selangor alone is 50x bigger than SG

[@Huanga1]

@@leealex24 it's surprising but most people have no idea!

[@jjhenry3338]

​@@Huanga1 best you get a car drive around Klang Valley. It's a huge suburb of many towns, made up of KL, PJ, Subang Jaya, Shah Alam and Klang - many times the size of Singapore. Explore the suburbs to get a good idea of this Valley before you make any concrete decision. A tip - talk to the property agents.

[@Huanga1]

@@jjhenry3338 yes you're right. We've only seen a tiny part of KL. We need more time to learn more

[@ahmadaziz5361]

Spore is an urban country. If you prefer to be in the concrete jungle better choose Spore to live. If u like nature, jungle, rain forest, mountain, beaches, driving, diving etc, Msia is the place. All at your own choice.

[@Huanga1]

@@ahmadaziz5361 agreed! We'll travel to Singapore often I bet

[@vjm7540]

Have you visited Sabah or Sarawak? If you have not then you should make that your next travel on Malaysia

[@5647014]

If cost of living is top priority you should also consider areas outside of KL city which are not the normal expat areas. Suburbs like Subang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, Sunway city among several others. These are very developed areas with complete aminities, about 15min drive from KL (outside rush hours) and they are also serve by the MRT/LRT line.

[@Huanga1]

@@5647014 thanks! We plan on exploring more neighborhoods next time we're in KL. PJ seems to be a great area. 👍

[@Kepalabapakkau6056]

Subang Jaya (and next door Sunway) are suburbs that are well developed with International schools and International Universities. The people there are well educated and mostly professionals.

[@jjhenry3338]

​​​​@@Huanga1 1U, DU, DJ, TTDI, Bangsar check these places up. Double storey for average $RM1.6 mil. Educated and english speaking neighbourhood.

[@Huanga1]

@@Kepalabapakkau6056 would you consider it a suburb of KL?

[@Huanga1]

@@jjhenry3338 getting a house with land seems like a good plan long term. 👍

[@zinibrahim1026]

If you have a car and Waze, you have a magic carpet that you can travel anywhere. Hope you can go to every corner of Malaysia.

[@Huanga1]

@@zinibrahim1026 me too! Thanks

[@hafilahzainalabidin8862]

Yes, I rely so much on waze, even when it brought me to a dead end road😂 I still use waze. Waze is a saviour esp when driving in kl😊...

[@Huanga1]

@@hafilahzainalabidin8862 so Waze is better than Google or Apple maps?

[@ahchaieliaswong1996]

Good pick. Happy for you

[@Huanga1]

@@ahchaieliaswong1996 thank you! ♥️

[@azharel]

Don’t forget to try Durian in Malaysia 😜 Wishing you all the best for the next chapter!

[@Huanga1]

@@azharel we bought some durian chocolates and they are interesting!

[@azharel]

@@Huanga1 Hmm it's like me tasting blue cheese for the first time without the chocolate tho.

[@elbowstancenow1519]

​@@Huanga1I don't add soda to a 12 year old single malt

[@Huanga1]

@@azharel that's an interesting comparison but I get it 👍

[@Huanga1]

@@elbowstancenow1519 lol it's so interesting how a fruit can be so polarizing

[@allantankl]

I don’t know about others but all my Malaysian relatives seem to prefer Singapore and they sure did come over here and have been doing really well it seems. Older Singaporeans, however, want to go to Malaysia because Singapore as an ever competitive country is just too unaffordable.

[@Huanga1]

@@allantankl I think it makes total sense to work in Singapore when you're younger and retire to Malaysia later on to enjoy a relaxed retirement

[@iherng]

Welcome to Malaysia!!

[@Huanga1]

Hey Sean! Thanks for the comment. I've been watching a ton of your videos on real estate. It helped us pick a few buildings to visit in KL. We're also interested in real estate investment once we land in KL. I would love to connect and meet you in person. 😃

[@thrillive]

HI, Andy. Thank you for this video. U & your family have made the right and sensible choice. Dun ever think about settling here in Singapore. I am ready and dying to migrate out of the country. Aside from the singing praises from people visiting Singapore and some locals, I personally dun feel it is a good fit to retire here. Most of us are average income earners, who are currently struggling to start afloat with extreme high costs of living. Used to be just housing and vehicles are expensive to own, but now everything is expensive to the point that, with average miserable paychecks, there are no money left for better life to chill out and retire. Cannot even save much with this inflation madness and imported produce. Nothing is cheap (yes, I want cheap & good!) anymore. Can't even fulfil any of my dreams here at all. Most local Singapore bosses are workaholics and they expect their staff to have the same work culture! Local SMEs just want to pay the minimum wages with non-existent staff benefits!!!!! So so sick of living here with high costs. I am done with living here. SG is ideal for those who are financially loaded with tons of money. For those of you who wanted to live here, good luck to u!

[@Huanga1]

@@thrillive thanks for sharing your perspective. I think people should be more open minded and think about what life is like for those who don't make a lot of money in Singapore.

[@andresloft]

I really like your decision based on practicality from opportunity, financial, work-life balance and social aspects. Once u get your car, drive around and visit small towns, and the East coast of peninsula malaysia as well for the Malaysia experience.

[@Huanga1]

@@andresloft that's the plan! Thanks ♥️

[@arivfotomoto3642]

Hi Andy, been following your story, welcome to Malaysia (soon)😊. I used to live in SF in the 90s. Mont Kiara is nice with a large expat community, it's a walking area so you don't have to drive all the time, and there are a couple of international schools for your children. Desa Park is nice and more spacious, but a place by itself, having a car is your friend. Bangsar is also wonderful, grew up there since I was a kid. It's the older expat area (decades before Mt Kiara became one). It's a nice mature area if it suits your budget. I wouldn't live anywhere farther than what you mentioned, you will get stuck in horrible traffic 😅

[@Huanga1]

@@arivfotomoto3642 thanks! Next time we'll make time for DPC and Bangsar. I feel like Bangsar might be more our speed. Not too residential but not too city either.

[@arivfotomoto3642]

@@Huanga1 since Bangsar is an older area, there are lesser options for newer condos there. The older condos can be a little bit more run down (they are +20-30 years old). If you come across a place called 'bangsar south', it's not Bangsar. Just that the developer named it as such trying to add 'glitter' to their address. 😗

[@Huanga1]

@@arivfotomoto3642 I have heard of Bangsar south. Looks pretty nice from videos

[@jckl-cad]

⁠@@arivfotomoto3642 Agreed. You can see shocking numbers of high rise buildings are standing very near to each other at Bangsar South and it is way to getting congested there. I personally prefer Desa Parkcity comparing to the other two locations. Spacious, greenish and quiet.😊

[@arivfotomoto3642]

@@Huanga1 'bangsar south' is a new development with modem standard condominiums. It's nearby but it's not connected to Bangsar at all. I'm not saying it's bad. But the 'real' Bangsar has its own unique vibes, which is something you can't replicate with a new development project.

[@joesoo]

Welcome to malaysia, should try out Penang, if you enjoy work life balanced, food, beaches, well balanced urban/ nature. Lots of FDI coming in, heaps of international school options here too

[@Huanga1]

@@joesoo we spent 3 days in Penang and it was great! Need to go back for more exploration 👍

[@user-xm9sb5zv8t]

The same similar reason why i and my family move to Malaysia for the last coming 18 yrs now as im a 4x4 offroad and Big bikes enthusiasm and now i even join owned a fast lines of anglers hobbyist sea going boats business in Msian east coast ex South Californian

[@Huanga1]

@@user-xm9sb5zv8t wow that's great! I would love to go ocean fishing in Malaysia 😃

[@norzilahaziz6695]

TQ for coming n chosing mlysia. Singapore is getting "tight"n so hectic. I mean somehow like you are confined in quite limited area. Whereas in Mlysia you may have many options for many activities including doing business..jobs..leisure..pristine countrysides..hahaha..even hobby of fishing etc. Beaches..islands..vast greenery n tropical rain forest..

[@Huanga1]

@@norzilahaziz6695 thanks! I can't wait to explore more of Malaysia 😃

[@LimHoochin]

U did a superb research.

[@patrickchen1382]

Singapore is a safer country not because it has strict rules as to what can and cannot be done. It is safe because the authorities, esp police and government, are much less corrupt and much more efficient. When you make a police report, you can be trusted that they will diligently follow-up. And, it is much less frustrating process to do so. It is also a safer place because of the mentality of the people. If people are better off financially, there are fewer crimes generally. Policing is also more effective partly because it is a smaller place but also because of the effectiveness of the police force. For example, street gangs are strictly monitored and any public disturbances are dealt with seriously. Thus, there is little fear of gangster activities in Singapore. The police are also very efficient in solving crimes and there are much fewer unsolved cases unlike in Malaysia with such cases as abduction of pastor in Penang, mysterious death of Teoh in police confinement and Altantuya’s case. There is also greater racial harmony and tolerance in Singapore and this makes for a more peaceful environment. I cannot think of any place in Singapore where a person of one race would hesitate to go, day or night, to another place that is dominated by another race. I have no worries when my daughters go out late into the night by themselves in Singapore but I have worries even for myself when I go out late at night in Malaysia. Given your family circumstances, I agree that you made the right choice. And, depending on your occupation, the income from working one month in Singapore is equal to working two to three months in Malaysia. Housing is expensive but if you are buying your own house, it is also an excellent form of savings. Transport systems are so good that generally you don’t need a car. Travelling out to places by driving is nice, I agree, but in Singapore, the equivalent is a hop on the plane for a short ride for vacation which eventually you will likewise do when you tire of local destinations. Just my opinion having lived in both countries. Having now retired, I find the sporting and exercise facilities very accessible and adequate. Food courts are nearby, clean, bright with good toilet facilities. Our choices depend on our circumstances. Good to have choices though. As many Singapore, I do go to Malaysia to enjoy the food and holiday resorts, and then to return to live in Singapore.

[@Huanga1]

@@patrickchen1382 thanks for sharing your perspective. I think the conclusion is that both places are great to live or retire. It really just depends on personal preferences, finances, and family situation. 😃

[@ShineOfSmiles]

Other options places to live - Hartamas area, TTDI, Bangsar South.

[@Huanga1]

@@ShineOfSmiles thanks!

[@user-ih4gn4ij7z]

You made the right choice! You would have to work so much to be able to maintain the life style and cost of living, which is so much more in Singapore compared to KL. I have been to Singapore a few times, and yes while I enjoyed certain things there, but there are other things that Malaysia has to offer that Singapore doesn't. My friends and I went to visit Asia, and stayed in Singapore for two days, and ran out of things to do, unlike other neighboring countries, Malaysia included, so many interesting places to visit. Malaysia has a lot of kampungs which are so nice to see, huge rice field in Kedah that you can see if you take the train, and then there are states like Penang, Terengganu, and Sabah, the list goes on. We stayed in Malaysia for a week, and felt we need to go back for more. People are more relaxed in Malaysia, so true! We stayed in a 5-star hotels in a high-end area in KL, paid less than the basic 2-star hotel we stayed in a "not a very nice area" in Singapore. I was also stunt at how cheap grab was, and gas price, I hope things will stay this way for a while though, because now that a lot of people are moving to Malaysia, I think it will impact the price eventually. But for now, enjoy your time in Malaysia, and maybe I will follow your foot steps soon, things are definitely getting worse in USA. I mean who can retire comfortably with Social Security, and who wants to work until 70!

[@Huanga1]

@@user-ih4gn4ij7z yup I agree with you completely. That's why we're relocating to Malaysia. It's just not worth it anymore to live in SF

[@user-ih4gn4ij7z]

And Malaysia is great for kids, education standard is also getting higher there. Another thing great about KL too, is the price of quality health care. It's getting harder to get appointments to see a doctor in US, I heard that's not the case in Malaysia.

[@Huanga1]

@@user-ih4gn4ij7z yes I also hear that private healthcare is affordable and very high quality

[@leealex24]

KL/Selangor alone is 50x bigger than SG

[@sart3735]

@@user-ih4gn4ij7z 😂. I dun trust the bumi doctors there. All got their places in medical schools with C and D grades.

[@noordinbeldenlex1620]

Singapore and Malaysia once united as a single nation and both have embraced the British legal system and shared comparable historical and cultural backgrounds, but I believe Malaysia offers you more options to explore than Singapore-if you need to move away from the hustle and bustle of the city, there are still plenty of rural areas to explore in Malaysia. On the other hand, if you choose Singapore, you'll be confined to an urban lifestyle and unable to escape an ongoing increase in your expenses. Many Singaporeans even opt to retire to Malaysia in order to save money on their living expenses and don't mind adjusting their high standards of living in Singapore to more relaxing lifestyle in Malaysia.

[@sart3735]

It's just a small fraction of Singaporean population wants to retire in Malaysia, most of them mostly ex Malaysians.

[@FreedomOfSpeechKL]

@@sart3735Because they realise deep down Malaysia is way better than Singapore. Lol

[@sart3735]

@@FreedomOfSpeechKL 😂. Nope, it's cost. For Sg born Singaporeans, most of us will not move to Malaysia no matter how cheap. We are not used to Malaysia. E.g. the morning prayers from the mosques are just too much for me. 😂.

[@Huanga1]

@@noordinbeldenlex1620 both places are good places to live and retire. It just depends on what's more important to you

[@Huanga1]

@@sart3735 there's no right or wrong answer. Both places are great places to live for the right person

[@klasikking9813]

and easyly can drive up to thailand krabi and more.. or just chlll in island with crytal clear water water east coast of peninsula malaysia, like tioman, perhentian, redang, rawa,.kapas

[@Huanga1]

@@klasikking9813 yes I can't wait to visit those islands and go diving

[@2430Studio-MattLawrence]

Thank you so much for the information on both Kuala Lumpar and Singapore. We are planning a visit to Malaysia in the summer of 2025 from the Sacramento area. I have heard that M City is a nice bldg./location not too far from KLCC.. We are trying to book our first stop there. If all goes well KL will be our new home for a while. Maybe someday we we'll pass each other on the streets of KL. Thanks again.

[@Huanga1]

@@2430Studio-MattLawrence are you going on a long trip and might stay in Malaysia? If you do settle there then we should connect once we're both there.

[@mrc6182]

Kind of a no-brainer, or "I'm so rich, it makes no difference!" question. From this year: "The monthly cost of living for a single person in Malaysia and Singapore differs significantly. The average for Malaysia is $770.46; in Singapore, it’s $3,296.86. The cost of living in Malaysia is approximately 76.63% lower than that of Singapore, considering apartment rental and other essential costs." I love Singapore and would prefer it over the similar size and amenities of Kuala Lumpur, but I'm also a realist. Singapore is unaffordable for the majority of us.

[@jjhenry3338]

Majority Singaporeans live in subsidized HDB flats. And don't own a car. It's hawker center food and public transport for the locals.

[@jjhenry3338]

@Richerrabbit Singapore's worst MRT breakdown between BoonLay and Queenstown on 27september, passengers were forced to walk on the elevated tracks. The east-west line was down for several days. Frequent breakdowns are normal of the ageing system.

[@jjhenry3338]

​@Richerrabbit S$110k COE lasts for 10 years only. 😅

[@melvinwong1866]

Hi Andy, welcome to Malaysia! I really enjoyed your 10 reasons, and I have to agree-many of my foreign tenants and friends share the same thoughts 😊 If you're ever interested in getting more local insights on housing options around Klang Valley, I’d be happy to help! Just let me know the best way to connect with you.

[@Huanga1]

@@melvinwong1866 thanks! I could always use advice on housing options and real estate 😃🙏

[@mwyc2000]

​@@Huanga1Great! I've dropped u an email and we can take it from there 😊

[@thebuddhaheartsutra]

For KL the place to live and raise a family is Damansara Heights. For Penang, it's Jesselton Heights.

[@Huanga1]

@@thebuddhaheartsutra thanks I’ll check them out when we get to KL 👍

[@thebuddhaheartsutra]

@@Huanga1 You made a wise decision to move to the East (kudos to you and your foresight!) because the 21st century will be an Asian century (just as the 19th century belonged to Europe and the 20th C to the US). Alas, the West is tanking. We have already bought properties in both Singapore and Thailand in case the UK economy gets any worse.

[@Huanga1]

@ thanks! Looks like you had the foresight as well!

[@chinkang3566]

Most of us living in Malaysia don’t call ourselves Malaysian Chinese, we just call ourselves Malaysian s or ethnicity has to be mentioned, then Chinese Malaysians.

[@sart3735]

Most of you Malaysian Chinese are wumaos. 😂

[@MayMay-May]

​@@sart3735not true

[@sart3735]

@@MayMay-May There are 1 million Malaysian Chinese in SG. My sample size is big enough.

[@chinkang3566]

@@sart3735 Then did you do a documented survey with the sample size of one million Chinese Malaysians living or working in Singapore?

[@sart3735]

@@chinkang3566 each and every Malaysian Chinese I met will make sure people know they are Malaysian Chinese not Malaysian. Each and everyone I met love to talk shit about the bumis, expecting that I will agree with them. Seems like their national sport bashing the bumis. I dun even want to tell you the racist stuff they say. Worse than Singaporeans. Well, I dun care about that. Just an observation.

[@sewa075ku7]

Smart choice. Wise decision. Enjoy your living in Malaysia.

[@Huanga1]

@@sewa075ku7 thank you! ♥️

[@ahyapchow2459]

DECISION IS YOUR BE CAREFUL, SAFETY FIRST DOES NOT MATTER WHERE YOU CHOOSE.😊

[@nazrimansor1112]

U can even drive from Malaysia into Thailand and then Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos etc. So just bring your car registration/grant and take extra auto insurance at the border.

[@nazrimansor1112]

​@@EGO0808 yes, all are connected via land borders. Distance of around 5600 km and if u do it non-stop takes 80 hours but u can take rests in-between or change drivers if they are tired.

[@nazrimansor1112]

@@EGO0808 no issues at all.. There are even frequent motorcycle riders who do it often. U don't have to comment so much if u never done it yourself. As a local I have so I know what I am talking about. We have people who drove from Malaysia to Turkey. So going to Vietnam by car is just like driving across EU.

[@EGO0808]

@@nazrimansor1112 maybe you should be the one not commenting in the first place. This vlog is about an expat family of 4 moving from USA to Malaysia. You think a road trip to Vietnam is their first priority? A bit autistic, wouldn’t you say?

[@nazrimansor1112]

@@EGO0808 did u see the video from start to finish? One of the points they raised was ability to do long drives. So swallow your ego of always wanting to be right like an annoying Karen when u first replied on something u did not know and just leave it to those who have experience of actually doing it. Now piss off, run along and never butt in to things u know nothing about.

[@jasmineong7776]

@EGO0808 I reckon this has become a platform illustrating how great the Malaysians are, how well connected Malaysia is, how vibrant Malaysia is, how affordable Malaysia is, how friendly Malaysians are, how multi lingual Malaysians are, how Malaysia is far better than Singapore, etc. LOL.

[@teoengchin]

For Singaporeans, "taking a road trip" means visiting Malaysia 😀

[@Huanga1]

@@teoengchin haha yup!

[@MaDholic]

Have you checked out Penang?

[@Huanga1]

@@MaDholic yes we spent 3 days in Penang. Explored Georgetown and Penang Hill. It was pretty rainy so we didn't see more. We'll be back though

[@MaDholic]

@@Huanga1 Those are touristy places. You should check out suburbs like The Light, Queensbay area, Pulau Tikus, Gurney Drive, Andaman Island, Seri Tanjung Pinang, Tanjung Tokong, Tanjung Bungah and Batu Ferringhi to get a real feel of how is living in Penang like compared to KL.

[@BenHifni]

If you gonna live here, you gotta start saying petrol instead of gas

[@Huanga1]

@@BenHifni haha true. My wife is Aussie so she already says it. I'll learn 😃

[@travelandchange6680]

I much prefer Malaysia easily. To start with I can drive a car in Malaysia. Next many other places to travel to in Malaysia

[@Huanga1]

@@travelandchange6680 yes not being able to drive a car without paying crazy fees is not what we want.

[@SaidOsman-x5t]

You're right.Singapore everything is expensive.

[@theankimpin-fm2sc]

Singapore is good to visit, but really, there’s nothing much to do for a family. You’ve done your research well. I’ve lived in KL all my life, and wouldn’t wanna move elsewhere. But as with all cities, you’ve gotta find out where the better neighborhoods are to raise a family. All those areas you’ve mentioned are good. So it all depends on what you want. If you want city life, KLCC, Bangsar, and Mont Kiara are the places to be. If you prefer a more suburban living, it would be Desa Park City, Damansara, or even Ampang. Also depends on how near you wanna be to your kids’ school.

[@theankimpin-fm2sc]

A word of warning though, if you plan on living here long term….the mindset here….sometimes you’re like, 😮 where’s the common sense?! Hahaha….

[@Huanga1]

@@theankimpin-fm2sc I think we're aiming for more city life than suburban. There will always be time for the suburbs later

[@whizkid4690]

Every one has different travel experiences and opinions and one often gave the same street reasons why choose this over that. Singapore is a city state so the area of land is a lot smaller than a typical large country so it has its constraints and policies are made in its best interest. Singapore is not a cheap country for sure, there's no doubt if you compare it to any other Asian countries since its a more developed country with higher medium salaries compare to others esp in GDP. So you cannot expect it to be cheap like its neighbours but if you live prudently, food and public transport is still affordable. Singapore is without natural resources and it wouldnt be where it is today without great leadership and it wouldnt work without Singaporeans. Unkind comments against both MY and SG is uncalled for as we are bonded by kinship. Both countries will do well and prosper to work with each other.

[@jasmineong7776]

@@whizkid4690 Agree! One shouldn't compare Malaysia with Singapore

[@yougohgoh1]

Singapore is just a heaven to earn more money, in terms of living, Bangkok, Chengmai or Vietnam even better Given if Malaysia cost of living is on par to Singapore, you still enjoy quality life in Malaysia, too small Unless you are very concerned about security, very rich and no children, you may choose Singapore.

[@Huanga1]

@@yougohgoh1 haha we're not very rich so not concerned about security like that. The quality of life is the most important

[@yougohgoh1]

@@Huanga1 Must bring your kids to ride on Summer Cruise @ Kenyir Lake, it is the most wonderful experience in Malaysia, let them feel and touch the nature which is the world 140mil years oldest rainforest, there are many house boat services but not recommended, cheap and pretty run down and too hot during daytime.

[@Huanga1]

@@yougohgoh1 I have not heard of that. Will look it up thanks!

[@yougohgoh1]

@@Huanga1 5 hours drive from KL, this new boat has the best facility throughout, it just started to operate since July 2024, total 15 rooms only, year end mostly fully booked. The company plans to expand to 8 boars in coming years. I love the trip kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5-woHiOnMaenrMsi=C6KJEDhywPRnJ7Hn

[@MayMay-May]

​@@yougohgoh1expensive

[@ymhktravel]

As a Singaporean working in HR who deals with recruitment of Malaysian semi-professionals, I learnt that in M'sia you could rent an entire 3-room unit in JB for $400, where as the same money will get you only a bed space sharing with 2 others in a common bedroom of the HDB. Unless you earn a very high salary here as a foreigner, you won't want to stay in Singaprore as a M'sian, since there's cheaper and better living options across the causeway!

[@jjhenry3338]

Singapore HDB room is S$900-1k per month

[@Huanga1]

@@ymhktravel yup it looks that way. I also hear that JB is developing very quickly because more people are living there and working in Singapore

[@juan141170]

Even Singaporeans comes to Malaysia to spend their money

[@Huanga1]

@@juan141170 because you get so much more!

[@sart3735]

CHeap. Quality of your shopping is poor. Rich Singaporeans dun go to Malaysia,

[@Huanga1]

@@sart3735 aren't Coach or Rolex or Gucci products the same everywhere?

[@sart3735]

@@Huanga1 Malaysia does not have the range and the latest season. Branded stuff are in fact more expensive in Malaysia. Singaporeans go to Europe to buy European brands, US to buy coach. Rolex - HK or JP. That is why I said rich SG do not shop in Malaysia. Malaysia is for cheap shopping.

[@makatogonzo]

Well. You look older no offence. That means you probably have more money. E.g. I don't recommend the starting pay as a fresh graduate in Malaysia. It depends on your own situation.

[@Huanga1]

@@makatogonzo oh yea I heard it's tough for young graduates. That's why many people leave right?

[@adiman6452]

I have lived and worked in The US and Malaysia and very familiar with Singapore as I travelled to Singapore quite often. I would say you have made the right choice. One more point I might add is that Malaysians have much higher entrepreneurship than Singapore which I think you will find it more obvious as you settle in. This year 23 new IPOs listed in Malaysia... in Singapore?...just one

[@Huanga1]

@@adiman6452 wow interesting. I'm very interested in starting a business in Malaysia

[@sart3735]

Your last statement is dumb.

[@elbowstancenow1519]

​@@EGO0808Please don't cross borders

[@sart3735]

@@elbowstancenow1519 he is stating a fact.

[@90taetaeya]

Stinkapore Stinkapore Stinkapore! Who would want to live in Stinkapore! 😂

[@sart3735]

I million of stupid Malaysians are living in SG. There are more Malaysians in SG than SG in Malaysia. Loser.

[@AlanKangBanMeng-sv5en]

Malaysia is a country suitable to raise a family here. The cost of living is affordable the variety of food from local to international cuisine to choose from.. English is widely spoken here and malaysian speaks at least 2 to 4 language from local malay language to mandarin, tamil, cantonese and english. There is no natural disaster such as earthquake, volcano eruption and so on . And there is no mass shooting here There are so many places you can go to visit and explore here such as the nationa park one of the oldest rainforest in the world, the largest or second largest cave chamber in the world. Here you will find long sandy white beaches and islands, caves, jungle, waterfalls . The shopping malls here is amazing im sure you already know that. Malaysia has another two states namely sabah and sarawak located in borneo island you might want to visit it some day. Festive season such as chinese new year, christmas, deepavali, eid -al fitr are celebrated here too. There are other festive season celebrated across east malaysia where sabah and sarawak are located.. Welcome to malaysia

[@sart3735]

LOL. Better place to raise children? Provided that you have the financial means to send them to international school. I would not want my children to attend local schools. Standard is meh.

[@ahyapchow2459]

HAHAHA SAFETY FIRST DOES NOT MATTER WHERE WE LIVE.😂😂

[@crissydollee]

It's interesting to read all the comments here! Just a little contribution of mine 😆😆! Hi Andy. welcome you & your family to Malaysia! Every country / city has it's bright & dark side! Good to get some opinions but best to experience yourself - when in Rome..u know 🤭😉🤗😅😝 Personal experience when I lived abroad - mix or make friends with locals..prob will know the country/ locals faster or easier! Please bear with some "Mal-lish" 😄😄

[@Huanga1]

@@crissydollee yes I plan to make friends with locals. I already have a few friends who are Malaysian in KL. I don't plan on only spending time with expats

[@ahyapchow2459]

MALAYSIA IS CHEAPER TO LIVE IN, SAVE YOUR EXPENSES. GOOD CHOICES.😊

[@azrulaznizan]

if you want to migrate to Malaysia,now is the right time where everything is still affordable as the current predictions stated the country to reach a high income nation in 2025-2028 after that everything will be much more expensive similar to neighbouring Singapore. invest in properties like what most Singaporean do now in Malaysia while it is still cheap here is some suggestion of nice neighbourhoods in Klang Valley(Greater Kuala Lumpur) for you to consider : -KLCC (nice luxury condos very accessible to everything you desired) -Bukit Bintang (buzzing hip place if you like lively place to live) -Mont Kiara (expats community) -Desa Parkcity (a bit further out from the city but high quality living perfect for families) -Bangsar ( where celebrities / famous people live) -Damansara Heights/Bukit Damansara ( new money/modern contemporary homes) -Kenny Hills/Bukit Tunku (old money/politicians/ Bruce Willis used to have a property here) -Ampang Hilir (embassies /nearby to Lake Titiwangsa Park )

[@sart3735]

Malaysia will always remain cheap. I can't imagine Malaysians who are so self entitled want to work hard to pay for high cost of living. They will burn the parliament before that happens.

[@BrianPatrick-s6b]

Actually these days Singapore only want super high net worth individuals for single family offices, immigrants to fill critical shortages in the workforce, actually migrate here totally ( since no dual citizenship) or MNCs bringing their staff here. The strain on housing and infrastructure costs meant they do not welcome people coming here as a 2nd home or digital nomad kind of thing.

[@chooihoonlim4691]

Generally Malaysia is a beautiful country with so much to offer. Many foreigners are living here with good quality of life. Welcome to Malaysia 🇲🇾 !

[@Huanga1]

@@chooihoonlim4691 thank you! ♥️

[@chooihoonlim4691]

@ You r welcome 🤗

[@thongcheewai5878]

Again...if you have money, you can decide everywhere you like. Each country has its own pro and con. Chinese proverb "Crow everywhere in the world is black".

[@Huanga1]

@@thongcheewai5878 yup exactly. Everyone is entitled to make their own choices

[@izdihar70]

dont forget u can derive to thailand too!

[@silverdemon101]

Let me know how we can work together in some business related matters.

[@Huanga1]

@@silverdemon101 what business are you involved in?

[@silverdemon101]

@@Huanga1 IT. Digital transformation projects.

[@silverdemon101]

@@Huanga1 I shot you an email.

[@jamescps8799]

Singapore is world class #1 best city and most developed and rich and safe city in the whole world.

[@beautifuldays7051]

But less happy..

[@anchored555]

Singaporean here. I’ve lived in SG more than 60 years and visited Malaysia often since I was a child, and like Malaysia for holidays, but not as a permanent home. (Also lived in the U.S., Australia and China, and travelled extensively.) For foreigners, Malaysia is much cheaper than SIngapore for housing, cars, cost of living etc. Has lots more space too because it’s much bigger than Singapore. So understandably, Malaysia is more attractive to foreigners who are budget conscious. Foreigners are allowed to stay in Malaysia on short term visas like MM2H, study mamas, digital nomads etc. But PR is hard to get (apparently need to reside 10 years and pass a Bahasa Melayu proficiency test?) and citizenship even harder. I suppose that last bit is also true of Singapore nowadays too, so I can understand foreigners opting for Malaysia by default. Many Singaporeans also like to visit Malaysia for cheap holidays, shopping and dining. But few, except for some retirees trying to stretch their retirement dollars, would consider moving there. (And even they would return to SG for medical treatment if they had a serious health issue). For one, salaries and career prospects are generally better in SG. SG also surpasses Malaysia in education, infrastructure, transport, safety, efficiency and medical care. SG is a major air and sea hub. You can fly or sail almost anywhere from SG. Driving into Malaysia is also easy. Life in SG is just too convenient and comfortable, so we Singaporeans have come to expect nothing less. Furthermore, the race-based Malaysian political system which adopted preferential treatment for the majority race since 1957, caused a big brain drain over the past few decades of more than 1 million Chinese Malaysians mostly to Singapore, and overseas. Corruption is also a big issue, as are frequent policy flipflops by the government, which translates into too much uncertainty, which makes it harder to plan long term. At the end of the day, foreigners may generally do ok since they live in their own bubbles, insulated from most of the problems (eg being second class citizens) that locals have to deal with that led many to emigrate overseas. However, the policy flipflops can affect foreigners too. For eg, Forest City was 70% sold to PRC Chinese, but when Mahathir became PM again in 2018, he suddenly banned the sale of Forest City units to foreigners and declared that buying a unit did not automatically give a right of residence. Imagine if you had bought a unit there? Likewise with the MM2H programme, which has seen significant changes in the last two years. And the recent VEP requirement for Singapore cars which is still in limbo after several failed attempts to implement it in the last 10 years. The high speed rail project between SG and KL was the subject of another flipflop by the Malaysian government. In recent years, droves of PRC Chinese have been going to Malaysia as students, study mamas, MM2H etc. Given the long history of racial tensions between the Malay and Chinese communities, would the surging numbers of ethnic Chinese cause discomfort in the Malay community? Might this cause any pushback in future? This is especially relevant for ethnic Chinese newcomers. In 1957, ethnic Chinese made up 40% of the population. Today, they make up just 22.8%. The fear that having too many ethnic Chinese might result in their gaining too much political power was a major reason why majority Chinese SG was evicted from Malaysia in 1965. Race-based politics (ketuanan Melayu/Malay supremacy), widespread corruption to the highest levels (eg former PM Najib), policy flipflops, the rise of Islam and extremism, are all issues that confront Malaysia today. How will all this affect foreigners in the longer term? Many newcomers think that Malaysia and SG are similar (ie in climate, racial mix, food culture etc), except that Malaysia is cheaper and more spacious, but actually the similarities are superficial, and only long time locals know the real differences. Don’t get me wrong, I wish you well. Short term visitors won’t be affected, but any long term plans should probably bear the above factors in mind. Be especially careful when buying property. Easy to buy but harder to sell because there may be restrictions eg on who you can sell to or how long you must hold the property for, etc.

[@Huanga1]

@@anchored555 thank you for the very detailed breakdown. You should make a video about this! I understand why Singaporeans don't want to live in Malaysia once you've become accustomed to the lifestyle and living standards. Singapore is a great place to live if money is not an issue. But as a foreigner, being able to own a car and buy landed property are huge pluses. I don't think we can fully adjust to not having a car as a young family, even if public transit is great and Grabs are easy. It's just something we want. Same goes with property investment. There is uncertainty when it comes to the government policies and such. But it's also likely that uncertainty is unavoidable no matter where you live. The world is constantly changing and as long as you can be adaptable then you'll be okay. That's my thinking anyway.

[@eddiek8179]

I'm guessing Singaporeans can't comprehend the concept of paragraphs especially when being so overly and unnecessarily defensive about their country. Unbelievably triggered at the thought of Malaysia being chosen, paired with the uncontrollable need to denigrate your neighbor's country while propping up yours, betrays a clear sense of low self-esteem, poor solidarity and supreme insecurity. There are many ways to promote Singapore without demoting others. You're practically bristling at the idea that someone chose Malaysia over Singapore. I would call your wall of text a self-own in terms of character. You really must look down on your neighbors to be this triggered. Any proper levelheaded Singaporean would be ashamed of this display.

[@crissydollee]

"Good essay" . As a Malaysian I have my many friends and relatives living in SG. My aunt was born and raised in Malaysia became Singaporean decades ago but she still travel back to MY often too. Everybody has their own thoughts/ opinions when making an important decision in life. Definitely no right and wrong - it's just a matter of which is a better choice for them at that point! 你说呢？😉

[@Huanga1]

@@crissydollee I completely agree. There is no right and wrong. 👍

[@anchored555]

@@Huanga1 yes, there is no right and wrong on whether anyone should emigrate anywhere. No one size fits all. The most important thing is to do your due diligence and make an informed decision, and go in with your eyes open.

[@xchaix]

8:30 just do goods, nobody will harm you guys, we protect all good peoples. no worries

[@z.k.6686]

Singapore is a Fine city

[@Huanga1]

@@z.k.6686 it's absolutely amazing. Just not the best place for us to live.

[@redsherpa1]

​@@Huanga1what z.k. meant by Fine city is - you get fined for every little wrongdoing 😅

[@Huanga1]

@@redsherpa1 😂

[@hafilahzainalabidin8862]

​@@redsherpa1😂 I got fine 33 years ago for not been aware the changed rule for entering the limited area zone 😂. That was my only 2 times driving in Sg😂

[@FT-od4xv]

​@@redsherpa1like what?

[@alwinyike5878]

You hit all the important reasons why Malaysia is much better than Singapore.

[@Huanga1]

@@alwinyike5878 well I wouldn't say it's better overall. Just better for us at this point.

[@mir7684]

Sg required $$$$$$$$$

[@jasmineong7776]

@Huanga1 If your base currency is US dollar, SG dollar, Euro, Australian dollar etc, it's definitely very affordable to live in Malaysia as the accommodation and cars are much cheaper. But let's not forget there are still many Malaysians earning RM are also struggling to cope with the rising costs of living.

[@Huanga1]

@@jasmineong7776 you're right. It's not affordable for everyone...

[@azuadrazali2803]

From ChatGpt 1. Cost of Living • KL: Generally, KL is far more affordable. Housing, transportation, and food costs are much lower compared to Singapore. You can live comfortably in KL without breaking the bank, making it a great choice for those seeking more bang for their buck. • Singapore: Singapore is known for its high cost of living, especially when it comes to rent and property prices. Dining and transportation can also be pricier, although there are budget options for food like hawker centers. 2. Food • KL: KL is a food haven, with a vast range of street food and restaurants that cater to different palates. Malay, Chinese, Indian, and even Middle Eastern influences are strong, with incredible dishes like nasi lemak, char kway teow, and roti canai. Food is cheap, accessible, and full of variety. • Singapore: Singapore also offers great food, especially in its famous hawker centers, which serve affordable and delicious local fare like chicken rice, laksa, and chili crab. However, fine dining and international cuisine options are more prominent here. 3. Transportation • KL: KL’s public transportation network is improving, with LRT, MRT, and bus services. However, it can still be a bit disorganized or inconvenient in certain areas. Many people in KL rely on cars, which can mean dealing with traffic jams. • Singapore: Singapore’s public transport system is world-class. The MRT and bus networks are extensive, clean, and efficient, and there’s no real need to own a car, given the convenience and affordability of public transport. 4. Work & Business Opportunities • KL: KL is the commercial and economic hub of Malaysia, and it offers growing opportunities in sectors like tech, finance, and services. However, the job market can be more competitive, and salaries tend to be lower compared to Singapore. • Singapore: As a global financial and business hub, Singapore offers a wealth of job opportunities, especially for expats. Major multinational companies have regional headquarters here, and sectors like finance, IT, and healthcare are booming. Salaries are higher, but so are living expenses. 5. Culture and Entertainment • KL: KL is culturally diverse, with a laid-back and sometimes chaotic charm. You’ll find vibrant street markets, festivals, and a mix of modern and traditional arts. It’s a city where cultures blend seamlessly, and you can experience different lifestyles and traditions. • Singapore: Singapore is more polished and structured, but still offers a rich blend of cultures. The arts scene is thriving, with plenty of museums, galleries, theaters, and world-class concerts. The city also has a number of major events like the Singapore Grand Prix and arts festivals. 6. Cleanliness and Safety • KL: KL is relatively safe, but like many big cities, there are some issues with petty crime in certain areas. The cleanliness level is average; some parts of the city are cleaner than others. • Singapore: Singapore is known for its cleanliness and safety. The government enforces strict laws, which means very little littering, vandalism, or crime. It’s often ranked as one of the safest cities in the world. 7. Weather and Environment • KL: Both cities share a similar tropical climate, but KL’s weather is more humid with frequent rain. The city is surrounded by more greenery and natural spots like the Batu Caves and the KL Forest Eco Park. • Singapore: Singapore is also hot and humid year-round, with the occasional thunderstorm. The city is more urbanized, but it’s impressively green, with lots of parks and nature reserves, like the famous Gardens by the Bay. 8. Housing and Real Estate • KL: Housing is much more affordable in KL. Whether you’re renting or buying, you’ll find more space for your money compared to Singapore. Many expats and locals enjoy living in modern high-rises or larger suburban homes. • Singapore: Singapore’s property market is expensive, with some of the highest real estate prices in the world. Most people live in apartments, either public HDB flats or private condos, but owning a home here can be a significant financial commitment. 9. Education • KL: Malaysia has several international schools and universities that are well-regarded, and education costs are more affordable compared to Singapore. KL is a growing education hub, especially for international students. • Singapore: Singapore has a world-class education system with top-ranking schools and universities. The education standards are high, but so are the costs, especially for international schools. 10. Overall Vibe • KL: KL feels more relaxed, with a mix of the old and the new. You can enjoy the hustle of city life while still experiencing traditional elements in its neighborhoods and markets. The city has more of a casual, community-oriented feel. • Singapore: Singapore is more structured and polished, with a fast-paced, global city vibe. Everything runs like clockwork, and the city prides itself on efficiency and order. It’s great for those who prefer a more organized and modern environment. Final Thoughts: • Choose KL if you value affordability, cultural diversity, a laid-back vibe, and don’t mind a bit of chaos and traffic. • Choose Singapore if you’re after a clean, efficient, modern city with excellent infrastructure and don’t mind paying more for a higher standard of living. Both cities are amazing in their own ways, but it all comes down to what fits your lifestyle best!

[@candicetneh1620]

Why not investigate Johor Baru?

[@Huanga1]

@@candicetneh1620 I plan to once we move to KL. It could be a great place to invest!

[@candicetneh1620]

@@Huanga1 we should be back in Penang end of March 2025.

[@Huanga1]

@@candicetneh1620 cool. We'll be in KL by the end of April

[@melongoh1909]

Got money, stay in Singapore is great! No money, then stay in Malaysia is perfect.

[@Huanga1]

@@melongoh1909 haha sounds about right

[@zanzillahsaruji9966]

Even Singaporean like to shop in Malaysia and this bring good economy to Malaysia....look what happened to San Francisco today due to bad economy many shops are closing down....

[@Malaysianplayer13]

maybe you can put Philipines and Indonesia in consideration, this country also the same as Malaysia

[@Huanga1]

@@Malaysianplayer13 I have lived in the Philippines before. Right now the Mandarin speaking part is what I cannot get in the other places

[@yfyeung4377]

Malaysia definitely 👍🏻 a real home. HDB flats can be temporary but hv your own landed property is what you wld aspire your child to achieve. semi-d abt RM1million; add rm200 u can design n build ur dream home; a fraction compared to Singapore. Freehold. KL/PJ has traffic, flash floods and never enough parking spaces. Sld consider outskirts like Emerald City Rawang. Convenience stores/ personal services/ childcare/ Aeon Mall; where u don’t hv to spend 30mins to look for parking compared to Malls in KL. And you are 5mins to north south highway making long weekend excursions with ease.

[@Huanga1]

@@yfyeung4377 okay thanks. Next time we'll rent a car and explore outside of KL as well. 👍

[@NomosPocus]

@@yfyeung4377 Yea, HDB flats in SG are what i call "bird cages" and also very expensive now. A small 3 room flat(2 bedrooms, 2 toilets, kitchen n sitting room) 65 square metre will cost u over SGD$400,000 to $800,000!! And it only has a 99year lease. But with this crazy price, u can easily get a real landed house with a big garden, a backyard and a front porch to park 4 cars for only RM$1M. And it's Freehold!

[@azharaziz3787]

Places like Mont Kiara, Bangsar, Desa Park City, Cyberjaya & Putrajaya may be more suitable to expat due to its large foreign community

[@akasiakasya6351]

Not expat, Immigrants, just use immigrants. All immigrants here in Malaysia work hard and contribute to economy no matter how big or small

[@carmelo665]

*KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysians are estimated to ingest 502.3 milligrams of microplastics per person daily, contributing to over 48,000 new cancer cases annually.* Please verify the news to know more about the details and eat carefully in Malaysia.

[@lizy8000]

Both SG and M’sia are great countries. I’m a M’sian living in SG for years, more so career wise, SG pays better but it’s very competitive. I love KL/PJ and am planning to move back when I’m done with the fast pace in SG. I enjoy the food in M’sia, where can find more authentic local foods. But honestly, cost of living is getting expensive in M’sia but certain things like cars and property are still more affordable than SG. If you enjoy road trips, M’sia offers beaches, good dive spots, historical cities like Malacca and Penang, East M’sia with its rich flora and fauna. Only greens I see in SG are the parks and reservoir near where I live 😂. Aside from shopping centres, Gardens By the Bay, don’t think there’s much else to explore 😅. I do however appreciate how safe SG is where I do not have to worry about snatch thieves etc

[@OtakuScandal]

I recommend Cyberjaya to live in. Right in between KL, Putrajaya and KLIA. It has no traffic and currently one of the cleanest and developing areas. I have 2 family homes in the area. Hoping to get another one. There are lots of expats too btw

[@kamrulz659]

Yes, Cyberjaya good option.More relax environment.😊

[@Huanga1]

@@OtakuScandal I've been curious about the name. Is it a new town? I'll definitely go explore next time

[@keangwooichoo6138]

@Huanga1 cyberjaya is next to putrajaya. It is the silicone valley of malaysia. Where tesla has a service centre. Tech companies are located there too. Penang too is our silicone valley.

[@Huanga1]

@@keangwooichoo6138 nice. I'll have to check it out since I worked in tech in SF

[@klloo5689]

I used to drive Ehailing for a few years. I hardly went around much in KL Selangor till I did that so I did end up in Cyberjaya quite a lot. If you love Chinese food then you'll most have to travel out of Cyberjaya to get it. There's the usual fast food like McDonald's, KFC and local brands there. I would say in a sense it's quite like Singapore in orderliness, cleanliness but I find it sort of sterile. I prefer the activity of other areas

[@yuliankhoo9295]

Singapore is comfortable and convenient .. Malaysia more chaotic more laidback more diverse .. Malaysia is just more interesting .. but if you have money you can live anywhere

[@jasmineong7776]

@yuliankhoo9295 Yes, no country is perfect. They should also check out other Asian countries, not just Singapore. Malaysia is definitely much bigger than Singapore and don't expect all the other states are like KL. Even in KL, do not just check out the bubbled Expats communities.

[@zanzillahsaruji9966]

Singapore rank 5 meanwhile Malaysia rank 10 safest countries in the world so they is not much different between Malaysia and Singapore. In terms of infrastructure, transportation, healthcare, education and others Malaysia is almost par with Singapore.

[@Huanga1]

@@zanzillahsaruji9966 yes that's why I was so surprised when I first learned of this. I tell people in SF and they don't believe me

[@Feliyam]

Source?

[@keangwooichoo6138]

@Huanga1 health care cost effectiveness is in kl and penang. Top private hospitals are: Island hospital Adventist Lam wah ee Prince court Gleaneagles Sunway medical Subang jaya medical centre Top gov hospitals usually for locals are: IJN heart hospital Tun hussein onn eye hospital Putrajaya hospital Sungai buloh hospital UkM hospital

[@sart3735]

Education on par with Sg? Not your local schools . 😂. SG unis are ranked a LOT better than Malaysian unis. SG students' PISA scores in Math, Science and English have been consistently a LOT better than Malaysians as far back as the 1980s.

[@lompanglompang6628]

Healthcare on par ? … not public hosp for sure 🤣🤣🤣

[@JG-ex9kx]

Hi! I would recommend Desa Park City which is more family oriented

[@lindc1070]

It is all a question of budget and lifestyle. Singapore is a lot more costly than SG but it offers a higher standard of living and a different lifestyle. Many Malaysians including I moved there.

[@Huanga1]

@@lindc1070 yes that's true. I'm sure lots of people prefer Singapore to Malaysia.

[@lindc1070]

@@Huanga1 it is more of a preference. Both have their pros and cons. Actually when you live in one you can enjoy the other😁

[@razalitamam7027]

Enjoy our beautiful Malaysia 🇲🇾❤

[@Huanga1]

@@razalitamam7027 thank you! ♥️

[@xchaix]

good choice bro, welcome homed

[@keangwooichoo6138]

Properties in malaysia is same price for locals and foreigners except that foreigners have a minimum threshold to buy

[@jjhenry3338]

If I'm not wrong only in certain areas only. Bangsar, Kiara, TTDI, DPC.

[@Huanga1]

@@jjhenry3338 I think the minimum is 600k everywhere on the peninsula except KL. Sarawak and Sabah are different

[@keangwooichoo6138]

@Huanga1 for mm2h , requirements must be fullfilled but if a spouse is on a working visa then yes you can buy those amount. I suggest since you understand mandarin, watch former goldman Sach employee The Nomad Life. She is from shanghai and lived in NYC, London and singapore. She lives in desa park, malaysia now. Her channel teaches you how to achieve FIRE - financial independence, retire early.

[@MayMay-May]

​@@Huanga1Selangor is 2 million for foreigners. Penang is min Rm600k for Mm2h holder.

[@Huanga1]

@@MayMay-May right. I wonder why it's more expensive in Selangor

[@fuadarif4056]

Singapore is an amazing country, clean n well organised. But Malaysia is truly Asia..

[@Huanga1]

@@fuadarif4056 Singapore feels like the amusement park you go to when you want to get away from the real world

[@ho2786]

malaysia for those money not enough

[@TheGracehew]

I’m a Singaporean…..and sadly, I could Not agree More….on a fair and Balanced approach to Life anywhere in the world, you and your family made the Right choice as we all move on with our Lives….All the Best!☺️

[@Huanga1]

@@TheGracehew thanks! I wish you the best

[@xchaix]

arrange road trip to hidden gems

[@ahyapchow2459]

JUST BE CAREFUL AND PLEASE BE SAFE, I AM TELLING THE TRUTH LIFE IS PRECIOUS.

[@sysy1971]

Hi, please try DesaPark City, very safe & clean area

[@Huanga1]

@@sysy1971 I will next time we're in KL. But I hear it's very expensive for KL

[@beautifulindianmelody]

I focused on 7-8 of the reasons you mentioned and am looking forward to moving to KL in January 🙂 excited to follow your channel and the upcoming videos.

[@Huanga1]

@@beautifulindianmelody congrats! Good luck on the move 👍

[@beautifulindianmelody]

@@Huanga1 would love to see more info being shared in your channel. Having lived in the US and Germany, I'm excited to learn more about the process you went through after reaching KL 🙂 and some of your decision making criteria as well

[@Huanga1]

@@beautifulindianmelody thanks! I did make a video about our decision to leave SF. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4S0ZqF8qrmlmrcsi=e5J4Pa-kdyx5ZuKZ And another video about the visas available to foreigners

[@jolin7911]

Your reasons of choosing Malaysia are convincing, apparently.

[@Huanga1]

@@jolin7911 haha thanks?

[@IsniRashid-jy1tb]

😂low currency ..come come cheap cheap

[@vincentchin88]

Your family in OR! I am a Malaysian Duck. 1991 to 1994.

[@vincentchin88]

You are spot on on the growth part. Also met nother UO alum from overseas who is investing in IoT aquaculture project here. Part of his expansion and he chose Malaysia for his SE Asia hub.

[@soehian]

Just curious, what are the requirements of the digital nomad visa? What do you need to do in order to maintain it? I've heard that it's not forever, is that true?

[@Huanga1]

@@soehian it's a 12 month visa that can be renewed. I think up to 2 years total. But make sure to look it up in case rules have changed

[@Huanga1]

@@EGO0808 the plan is to transition to another visa like the MM2H or Employment Pass

[@Huanga1]

@@EGO0808 okay good to know. I was thinking about the latter option in Labuan. How easy was the process for you?

[@Huanga1]

@@EGO0808 do you have to have an office in Labuan or some physical presence?

[@DuaneTanTC]

Malaysia is for REAL people, Yes Singapore is to work!

[@zanzillahsaruji9966]

In Malaysia you can buy as many cars as you like. I myself have five cars, my daughter 2 and my son-in-law has 1. It is normal in Malaysia 1 house have many cars....😂😂😂

[@Huanga1]

@@zanzillahsaruji9966 wow! Haha I think we'll start with one and see how that goes. It was crazy to us that condos in KL offered free parking. We pay nearly $400/month for parking and it's not even super safe!

[@tc691kiing9]

Exotic musang king, better Maldives, fantastic marine life, Salem high country, laid back clock ticking life. No where come close to bolehland

[@azuadrazali2803]

Some people might find Singapore a bit “boring” compared to Malaysia, and that largely comes down to personal preferences and what kind of lifestyle or experiences people enjoy. Singapore is often viewed as highly organized, efficient, and structured, which some love, but others feel it lacks the same kind of spontaneity and vibrancy that they might experience in Malaysia. Here are a few reasons why some people might find Singapore less exciting compared to Malaysia: 1. Strict Regulations • Singapore is known for its strict laws and highly regulated society. While this contributes to its reputation for being one of the cleanest, safest, and most orderly cities in the world, it can also make it feel a little less spontaneous or lively. • For instance, things like chewing gum are banned, and certain behaviors (even jaywalking or littering) can lead to fines. These rules maintain order, but for some, it creates a sense of restriction that can feel limiting compared to the more laid-back vibe of Malaysia. 2. Highly Urbanized and Modern • Singapore is very much a modern, urbanized city, with sleek skyscrapers, shopping malls, and efficient transportation. While it’s impressive, some people feel that it lacks the “grit” or charm of cities like Kuala Lumpur, where the mix of modern and traditional elements creates a more vibrant and unpredictable atmosphere. • Malaysia, on the other hand, offers a greater variety of environments - from bustling city centers to rural villages, tropical islands, and highland retreats. The contrast between urban and nature in Malaysia gives people more diverse experiences. 3. Cultural Richness and Spontaneity • Malaysia’s cultural richness feels more raw and spontaneous compared to Singapore. In Malaysia, you can experience a variety of ethnic festivals, colorful street markets, and impromptu performances that give the country a lively, unpredictable charm. • While Singapore has a diverse cultural scene as well, it is often seen as more polished and curated. Some feel that Singapore’s festivals and events are more formal and structured, whereas Malaysia’s street festivals and local events have a more organic and community-driven feel. 4. Cost of Living • Singapore’s high cost of living can make it more challenging to enjoy everyday activities, especially for those on a budget. Dining out, nightlife, and entertainment can be quite expensive, which limits how much you can do without spending a lot of money. • In Malaysia, you can experience vibrant street markets, food stalls, and local activities at much lower costs. This allows for more frequent and spontaneous experiences, like enjoying local festivals, exploring different cities, or indulging in street food without worrying too much about the price. 5. Nightlife and Entertainment • Singapore’s nightlife is vibrant but more structured. Many bars, clubs, and entertainment venues cater to high-end or expatriate crowds, which can feel exclusive or formal. The nightlife in Singapore is more polished and less about the “raw” fun you might find in a less structured environment. • Malaysia, particularly Kuala Lumpur, has a more diverse nightlife, from high-end rooftop bars to more casual, local hangouts. Penang and Langkawi also offer unique nightlife experiences with beachside cafes, live music, and outdoor events. The overall atmosphere is more laid-back, and there are fewer restrictions on things like drinking in public spaces. 6. Nature and Outdoor Adventures • While Singapore has beautiful green spaces like Gardens by the Bay and nature reserves, it’s still a highly urbanized city with limited natural landscapes. Singapore’s outdoor offerings are impressive, but you can explore them in just a few days. • In contrast, Malaysia has vast natural diversity. You can visit tropical islands like Langkawi or Perhentian, explore the Cameron Highlands, hike in Taman Negara, or even wander through historical towns like Melaka and Penang. The variety of outdoor experiences in Malaysia, from beaches to mountains to rainforests, makes it a much more adventurous destination for those who love nature. 7. Street Culture and Local Markets • Malaysia’s street culture is more prominent. Cities like Kuala Lumpur and Penang are famous for their bustling street markets, where you can find local foods, crafts, and a variety of goods. These markets are often lively and give a more authentic, local experience. • Singapore’s markets are more orderly and less chaotic, and while you can find street food at places like hawker centers, the experience is more controlled and sanitized. For some, this makes it feel less exciting compared to the more spontaneous and bustling markets in Malaysia. 8. Historical and Cultural Experiences • Malaysia has a rich history and an eclectic blend of cultural influences. In places like Penang and Melaka, the fusion of Malay, Chinese, Indian, and European colonial influences can be seen in the architecture, food, and traditions. Exploring these cities offers a deep dive into the country’s heritage, which feels more immersive. • Singapore has preserved its history, but it is often perceived as more modern and streamlined, with less focus on the old, traditional ways of life that are still so prevalent in Malaysia. 9. Fewer Travel Options • Being a small city-state, Singapore is limited in terms of the types of experiences you can have within the country. You can explore the entire city in a relatively short time, and after that, there’s not as much to do without traveling abroad. • In Malaysia, there’s much more variety in terms of places to explore. Whether it’s a quick weekend trip to the beach, a hike in the mountains, or exploring the cities, you have many travel options within the country, making it a lot easier to have new experiences. 10. Homogeneity • Singapore is often seen as more homogeneous when it comes to culture and experiences. While it’s a multicultural city, there’s a strong emphasis on efficiency, order, and modernization, which some might find repetitive after a while. • In Malaysia, the contrasts are more visible. The diversity in languages, traditions, and lifestyles from state to state makes it feel more dynamic and varied. You can feel the difference in culture when traveling from Kuala Lumpur to Penang or from Johor Bahru to Kota Kinabalu. This variety keeps things interesting. Conclusion: Whether or not Singapore feels “boring” compared to Malaysia really depends on personal preferences. For those who appreciate order, cleanliness, and efficiency, Singapore is a world-class city with plenty of structured entertainment and cultural experiences. However, for those who crave adventure, spontaneity, and a bit of chaos, Malaysia often feels more exciting, with its rich cultural diversity, vibrant street life, affordable prices, and more relaxed lifestyle. In short, Singapore offers a polished, efficient, and modern experience, while Malaysia provides a more laid-back, varied, and sometimes unpredictable charm that many retirees, travelers, and expats find more engaging.

[@Huanga1]

@@azuadrazali2803 thanks 👍

[@gohyonghongluke3443]

As a Singaporean who also choosing Malaysia for living coz ady stay in Malaysia JB for 2 years plus overall Great 👍👍👍👍 when you live in Malaysia very long time when hv to go back to Singapore feel doesn't want it even real rich ppls who will also choosing Malaysia and Thailand instead of SG coz of the high taxes living.

[@Huanga1]

@@gohyonghongluke3443 agreed 👍

[@SarinaOthman-vr2em]

I have lived and worked in all 3 places - Singapore, SF Bay Area and Malaysia. I am a Malaysian myself and there is no place like home. Good choice! My advise is not to rush into committing on businesses or buying property. Get a feel for the city and the people and the business environment. ,Check out the different suburbs and demographics and get the vibes of each place and see what suits you. As for business opportunities there are plenty but be careful with who you partner with - it is hard to find a trusted partner and even then I would say try to be independent and not rely on anyone. Observe and see what are the pluses and minuses and make informed decisions. Have knowledge in whatever you do.

[@Huanga1]

@@SarinaOthman-vr2em thank you for the great advice. Yes we'll take our time to really get to know the country before committing to anything big 😃🙏

[@MrLtoos]

If money and visa were not an issue if live in Singapore for its cleanliness,safety and efficiently and drive into Malaysia for short vacations. Btw, food in Malaysia is getting very expensive these days. Almost on par with Singapore.A bowl of noodles RM12 vs S$4.

[@MrLtoos]

@@EGO0808that’s not true..hawker center prices are about the same after conversion like I mentioned above. Yes overall Singapore is still more expensive..for good reasons..but Malaysia is definitely not 3.5 times cheaper anymore.Maybe half price

[@MrLtoos]

@@EGO0808So u prefer to live in Singapore or Malaysia?😊