10 Star Trek Re-Shoots That Totally Changed The Ending

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@HariSeldon913
@HariSeldon913 2 жыл бұрын
5a. The rock men that were taken out were what inspired the rock creature Tim Allen had to fight in GalaxyQuest.
@zacharyjochumsen9677
@zacharyjochumsen9677 2 жыл бұрын
Hari yeh the rocmen did inspire the rock monster in glaxy quest
@topogigio7031
@topogigio7031 2 жыл бұрын
For real or is that a coincidence you want to turn into a fact?
@shagggyman
@shagggyman 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. What will they come up with next. PshycoHistory maybe. :)
@AndrewD8Red
@AndrewD8Red 2 жыл бұрын
I officially endorse an Ups and Downs series for Trek Classique. Maybe a poll on the community page for which specific episodes people would like to see done?
@adam1third
@adam1third 2 жыл бұрын
Collectively vote on 52 episodes from all pre-discovery trek to do Ups and Downs for? That's one a week for a whole year! I'd certainly watch.
@risenancient
@risenancient 2 жыл бұрын
Nimoy didn't ask to kill Spock, he was asked "How would you like a great death scene?" and he was intrigued. Read or listen to "I am Spock". Other then that, great video
@Revan2908
@Revan2908 2 жыл бұрын
I love that book!
@leandar
@leandar 2 жыл бұрын
He also stated this numerous times in interviews, one is seen on the Star Trek III DVD I believe, where he was initially being denied the chance to direct the movie because he wanted Spock killed, he had it put in his contract supposedly. Nimoy flat out told Michael Eisner (I believe), who was running Paramount back then, to go have the contract for Star Trek II pulled up if Eisner didn't believe him, but he said that he did believe Nimoy and so shortly afterward, he was given permission to direct.
@Mozart1220
@Mozart1220 2 жыл бұрын
I have it that he didn't want another "motion Picture" experience and only agreed to play Spock if it would be the last time. But the Kahn" experience was much better and that, along with the chance to direct #3, convinced him to continue.
@theelvenwtich
@theelvenwtich 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I had no idea that 5 could have been any worse.
@SayAhh
@SayAhh 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the rock monster from Galaxy Quest was inspired by this.
@theelvenwtich
@theelvenwtich 2 жыл бұрын
@@SayAhh I don't want to stain Galaxy Quest with that, but I fear you may be right. But it was also a bit like the Gorn fight.
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 2 жыл бұрын
@@SayAhh or if Marvel's "The Thing" inspired the rock monsters.
@Heymrk
@Heymrk 2 жыл бұрын
I like to watch 5. It's not good at all, but bad/good. It's fun to watch with friends while you mercilessly mock it.
@bethanyhait6880
@bethanyhait6880 2 жыл бұрын
Aw, those Yosemite scenes are hysterical.
@ussvoyager8650
@ussvoyager8650 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure glad that Kate Mulgrew played Captain Janeway
@Mozart1220
@Mozart1220 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not. She's a great actress but that voice is annoying to me. I would have rather seen someone like Uhura get the ship. Much more pleasing voice.
@ussvoyager8650
@ussvoyager8650 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mozart1220 I like Kate Mulgrew's voice I think it's quite sexy
@GabePuratekuta
@GabePuratekuta 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mozart1220 What if it was Lindsay Wagner instead?
@QuixoteX
@QuixoteX 2 жыл бұрын
Avery Brooks is so good, mere mortals can't handle it!
@hobbychain
@hobbychain 2 жыл бұрын
The Sisko approves this message.
@richardfrostell9395
@richardfrostell9395 2 жыл бұрын
Garrett Wang once corrected me on pronouncing his last name. It's more like wong.
@philmorton4590
@philmorton4590 2 жыл бұрын
Starting to see why star trek discovery isn't doing very well in it's ratings, they don't do all this soul searching for the best outcome to keep their audience approval and faith from the fans.
@TairnKA
@TairnKA 2 жыл бұрын
At 8:00; the infamous Paramount blunder, it's rumored when Roddenberry saw the error (didn't know until a fan showed him), all he said was "Paramount".
@gowzahr
@gowzahr 2 жыл бұрын
For me, Kirk asking if they had made a difference that really gets to me.
@SNBgames
@SNBgames 2 жыл бұрын
Ups & Downs for older Trek?
@jamesmc1038
@jamesmc1038 2 жыл бұрын
That is a great idea
@heartattackjack9349
@heartattackjack9349 2 жыл бұрын
I still think Picard and Kirk didn't leave the Nexus. You can't just will yourself to a different time, and it plays out differently. They were still in the Nexus, and played the roles they saw for themselves. Picard is currently playing out his life as he saw it progress. Kirk is still in the Nexus, and has returned to his fantasy life once again, having played one more Captain's adventure, and is satisfied with retirement, or he returned to the Enterprise in the fantasy. Why do I say all that? The Nexus wasn't on Earth. Kirk was either on Earth, or a planet like Earth, in his fantasy, but he was dead in the "real world.' or MIA. How could they go from the Nexus on Earth when the Nexus was never there to begin with? The to go to a place in time the Nexus touched? Plot hole, loophole, or just lazy writing. Either way, Kirk is not dead, and Picard is not in the real world anymore. that's how he's able to be the hero, even at his age.
@scottmcintosh4397
@scottmcintosh4397 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see the original footage that was removed from these movies & shows 📺👀 🌌🔭
@joelellis7035
@joelellis7035 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but saying that Bujold's performance in the scenes that she shot for the Voyager pilot were "solid" is a flat out lie. They were weak because Bujold did not carry the command presence needed for her character. Her dialogue was softer than the other actors in the scenes and she clearly was not fitting in with the dynamic. Her departure was not as abrupt as you implied. Bujold was not up on her script and they were seeking to reshoot the scenes that she had already shot. It's very evident that she refused to reshoot the scenes and the ultimatum was made that the scenes would be reshot with or without her.
@patrickmccurry1563
@patrickmccurry1563 2 жыл бұрын
She looked barely awake or moderately stoned. "Solid" was not in the same galaxy as her performance.
@alexsummers9140
@alexsummers9140 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the footage, too, and your description is 100% accurate
@speedracer1945
@speedracer1945 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickmccurry1563 she always looked stoned . Mulgrew had that nagging commanding voice and was natural for the role and had a certain presence on the bridge .
@rcknbob1
@rcknbob1 2 жыл бұрын
@@speedracer1945 If you saw her play an Army Captain in "Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins", you see the embryonic Janeway (kinda played for laughs, though).
@euphorik6
@euphorik6 2 жыл бұрын
totally agreed, joel. voyager would have been a complete disaster with bujold as janeway. mulgrew's janeway exuded command authority from scene 1. bujold's janeway exuded little else but palpable discomfort and a vacant deer-in-the-headlights expression.
@greektexan2637
@greektexan2637 2 жыл бұрын
The bridge might not have broken if Kirk had eaten less marsh melons…
@DK-ub5ph
@DK-ub5ph 2 жыл бұрын
What's a marsh melon?
@nevermorenovelist
@nevermorenovelist 2 жыл бұрын
@@DK-ub5ph It's like a marshmallow, only _bigger._
@JaguarCats
@JaguarCats 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there another scene shot in Generations where Kirk actually survived? Quoting "The 24th Century doesn't seem so tough!"
@teg24601
@teg24601 2 жыл бұрын
Only in "The Return"
@speedracer1945
@speedracer1945 2 жыл бұрын
He did say that before Saran shot him in the back then Picards shoots Saran in the test audience version . I remember seeing a quick teaser and Shatner saying that line
@speedracer1945
@speedracer1945 2 жыл бұрын
@@teg24601 I enjoyed the Return and the other six or so that followed by Shatner and as his Ghost Writers Garfield Steven's Reeves and at that time there was speculation that these novels deserved a mini series based on them but as history tells us it never happened. The duo writers Reeves should had wrote screenplays for the following Trek films since they seemed to know all the characters and how Star Trek worked.
@slavaukraini1991
@slavaukraini1991 2 жыл бұрын
The captain remains on the bridge til the very end... 👀
@thedarkonestaint6105
@thedarkonestaint6105 2 жыл бұрын
The expanse is so amazing. Finishing the final book and season now.
@dr_joel_fm
@dr_joel_fm 2 жыл бұрын
Wow sisko always breaking new levels in st
@clrlmiller
@clrlmiller 2 жыл бұрын
I just cringe when the scene showing Kirk leaving the air lock in Star Trek: The Motion Picture shows all the stage bits and aluminum racks. The scene was left out for the theatre release and never finished the effects portion. It just got tacked on for the cable TV release and stuck around.
@gallery7596
@gallery7596 2 жыл бұрын
I think making V'ger more villainous might've given "ST: TMP" the excitement it lacked.
@shiddy.
@shiddy. Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered how that torpedo casket they launched spock's body out of made the perfect landing that it did on genesis
@silmarian
@silmarian 6 ай бұрын
It’s been a hot minute since I read the books, but I think it was explained away as gravity fluctuations because the Genesis field was still in flux.
@GrandmasterDevo
@GrandmasterDevo 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't there a cut moment in the Voyager episode "Unimatrix Zero Part 2" where the Borg Queen assimilates Harry? I remember her line "We'll see you soon, Harry" in Part 1 and I distinctly recall seeing what may have been production photos online at the time showing Harry on a surgical table with the Queen standing over him.
@plasmaburndeath
@plasmaburndeath 2 жыл бұрын
I still think Picard used Nexus to Save his Nephew from the fire, it would be an interesting twist if that were to come out.
@mothersmucker1
@mothersmucker1 2 жыл бұрын
Generations has definitely aged very well.
@whalemonstre
@whalemonstre 2 жыл бұрын
I want them to put Kirk's orbital skydiving scene back in. :D
@brunozeigerts6379
@brunozeigerts6379 Жыл бұрын
I had Star Trek the Motion Picture on video tape. The now deleted scene of Kirk spacewalking after Spock had two problems. One is that Kirk is wearing a different spacesuit when he leaves than when he finds Spock.(in space... no-one can hear you change clothes?) Also, the scaffolding holding up the set is visible.
@GregDeocampoogle
@GregDeocampoogle 2 жыл бұрын
I love the scene in Insurrection where Picard won't let Data go and almost crashes him and Work into the planet to save him.
@joelellis7035
@joelellis7035 2 жыл бұрын
Auto-correct not recognize "Worf"?
@1701_FyldeFlyer
@1701_FyldeFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised ST:Nemesis ending didnt get in this list.
@thefifthGV
@thefifthGV 2 жыл бұрын
You could have just not killed Kirk 🤷‍♂️
@darrenhann5026
@darrenhann5026 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@Wimpoman
@Wimpoman 2 жыл бұрын
"Bridge on the Captain."
@arrjay2410
@arrjay2410 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating.
@morrisgautreau6704
@morrisgautreau6704 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Seán! 🖖🏻👨🏻‍🦲👍🏻Another great video! Just leaving a comment for the algorithm! I really want this channel to grow BIG! Live Long And Prosper!
@jamesmc1038
@jamesmc1038 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid
@KatieRose927
@KatieRose927 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this!!!
@LarryLeeMoniz
@LarryLeeMoniz 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work Sean! LLAP.
@Ser_Redshirt
@Ser_Redshirt 2 жыл бұрын
I flippin' loved Insurrection.
@RichardBejtlich
@RichardBejtlich 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. Thank you.
@theodorehaverson5079
@theodorehaverson5079 2 жыл бұрын
Kirk's death was horrendous! Thank goodness Shatner wrote "The Return" series!
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how things can change, isn't it?
@frankmoniz1467
@frankmoniz1467 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome list! Live long and prosper.
@jefferygeter4998
@jefferygeter4998 2 жыл бұрын
Release the shakner cut!!!!! ⚡
@Blasted2Oblivion
@Blasted2Oblivion Жыл бұрын
Considering how small the Baku settlement was, I feel like they could have just parked on the other side of the planet and avoided the whole movie.
@Rocketsong
@Rocketsong 2 жыл бұрын
Key Takaway: Star Trek, the Motionless Picture, could have been even longer with worse pacing than the released version.
@patrickmccurry1563
@patrickmccurry1563 2 жыл бұрын
Tried to be 2001: A Space Odyssey, and not very well, IMO.
@HITMANPegas
@HITMANPegas 2 жыл бұрын
Joran Dax is just Avery Brooks's normal self.
@WarpigGaming.
@WarpigGaming. 2 жыл бұрын
You can never fail with Kirk ending on a bridge ......or a bridge ending Kirk
@nevermorenovelist
@nevermorenovelist 2 жыл бұрын
Bridge on the Captain!
@baskkev7459
@baskkev7459 2 жыл бұрын
10 I think is the one that would have been better
@JohnALong-nl2hj
@JohnALong-nl2hj 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I could see videos, using the original endings. Just for comparison.
@vinniemorciglio4632
@vinniemorciglio4632 2 жыл бұрын
Kirk died alone on the bridge, so......
@NightHawke
@NightHawke 2 жыл бұрын
As it turned out, I'm glad Genevive Bujold quit when the quitting was good. V'Ger descended into a terrible mess of a series before they even finished the first season, dispensing with all the interesting interpersonal drama within the first five eps or so. Would have been a waste of Bujold's time and talent. If you'd read Lisbeth Shatner's excellent behind-the-scenes book on Star Trek V, you'd know that the production was subject to not only a labor strike during production, but a couple budget cuts to boot. Paramount didn't give them enough money to finish the climactic battle with the God of Sha-Ka-Ree as intended. The rock monster stuff was an attempt to salvage something of what had been planned, but they didn't have the budget to even bring them off well enough.
@docholliday7157
@docholliday7157 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my
@Chris-rp9df
@Chris-rp9df 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone considered a new CGI TOS? Im reasonably sure the software (stuff like vocaloid) is there or thereabouts.
@sureshmukhi2316
@sureshmukhi2316 2 жыл бұрын
You mean remastered? They did that more than 10 years ago.
@Chris-rp9df
@Chris-rp9df 2 жыл бұрын
@@sureshmukhi2316 No. CGI episodes.. all new ones Technology has progressed to the point where all new episodes can be made within a computer. Computers can be programmed to replicate a persons voice perfectly. The only limit would be the writers imagination And Shatner could have all the rock monsters he wants
@nevermorenovelist
@nevermorenovelist 2 жыл бұрын
_Star Trek: Deep Fake Nine..._
@petermcgill1315
@petermcgill1315 2 жыл бұрын
“You can catch myself...”???????
@waltererhart3161
@waltererhart3161 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to tell fans that about LeVar Burton being a racist. But he did not seem to let that show while he was making millions while acting on The Next Gen.
@jyesucevitz
@jyesucevitz 2 жыл бұрын
Kirk's final words McAfee test audiences happy? would Kirk's body have really been left on an alien planet?
@AlexandarHullRichter
@AlexandarHullRichter 2 жыл бұрын
Not permanently, for sure, but Picard didn't know when to expect a rescue.
@leejohnstone894
@leejohnstone894 2 жыл бұрын
As we all know " Undiscovered Country" Spock volunteer Kirk to bring the Klingon chancellor to earth for peace talks. Obviously Spock wanted to show Kirk not all Klingons are bad. Showing what a insensitive jerk he is
@johnburla
@johnburla 2 жыл бұрын
I liked Gregory Sierra best in Barney Miller, which sadly wasn't mentioned here. Oh, I am a bit biased, as I do own the entire series. :-)
@shaggycan
@shaggycan 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or are the JJ movies SO forgettable. I saw Beyond and I think I just erased it before I got back to my car to go home after.
@kevinmoore8780
@kevinmoore8780 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I was thinking, which one was Beyond?
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinmoore8780 third one wasn't ? INto Darkness was the second one.
@leejohnstone894
@leejohnstone894 2 жыл бұрын
Trekkies or trekkers thinks Spock is a great character, remember with fondness. Spock is a BESTERD
@aurongrande6141
@aurongrande6141 2 жыл бұрын
Why not do a video theorizing how various races would deal with a Planet Killer that's heading towards major planets in their territory?
@terrywindsor1310
@terrywindsor1310 2 жыл бұрын
🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖
@bedtimesd.1247
@bedtimesd.1247 Жыл бұрын
Mulgrew was and is the worst thing that ever happened to Star Trek.
@Aragorn7884
@Aragorn7884 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Yes, ST: Insurrection _is_ as bad as its reputation 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🙄
@johnbockelie3899
@johnbockelie3899 2 жыл бұрын
In the TNG episode " The most toys, " Data's shuttle was named " Pike" after Christopher Pike.( look at the name on its front door area) Makes sense Data gets held prisoner by a collector.
@tnspnk3
@tnspnk3 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny...I know what you mean, but it actually has some good moments...they just don't add up to a good movie. Which is Ironic: " Have you ever experienced a perfect moment in time?" "A perfect moment?" "When time seemed to stop, and you could almost live in that moment." "Seeing my home planet from space, for the first time."
@YeoYeo32
@YeoYeo32 2 жыл бұрын
Insurrection is absolutely as bad, if not worse, than it’s reputation would have you believe.
@BennyT_3434
@BennyT_3434 2 жыл бұрын
Has time really been that kind to Generations?? Wish they would have re-shot the D getting destroyed, shoulda pulverized that old Klingon ship and lived to be damaged beyond repair by the Borg in First Contact
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
Rappaport didn't _attempt_ to die by suicide - he killed himself.
@anonymousscience4095
@anonymousscience4095 2 жыл бұрын
He did attempt. The first attempt was by carbon monoxide poisoning via car exhaust, which is what got him replaced for the episode. In a later second attempt, he shot and killed himself.
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
@@anonymousscience4095 Aha, thanks for the clarification Damon.
@mothersmucker1
@mothersmucker1 2 жыл бұрын
Insurrection was a terrible movie
@AndrewD8Red
@AndrewD8Red 2 жыл бұрын
It's my favourite Trek movie!
@BruinPhD2009
@BruinPhD2009 2 жыл бұрын
I tried really hard to like it, because Trek, but never could convince myself they didn't waste my time.
@leonardtabone8670
@leonardtabone8670 2 жыл бұрын
Worse than V?
@chrissmith7669
@chrissmith7669 2 жыл бұрын
Insurrection was almost as lame as first contact. Amazingly bad writing
@sureshmukhi2316
@sureshmukhi2316 2 жыл бұрын
First Contact was way better thanks to James Cromwell.
@thereddog223
@thereddog223 2 жыл бұрын
Janyway is a horrible captain
@sureshmukhi2316
@sureshmukhi2316 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@thereddog223
@thereddog223 2 жыл бұрын
@@sureshmukhi2316 she cared more about the delta quadrant than her own crew
@jeremiahmitchell6420
@jeremiahmitchell6420 2 жыл бұрын
Meybe Voyager would suked less if Mulgrew wasn't Janeway?
@Chris-rp9df
@Chris-rp9df 2 жыл бұрын
Voyager would have sucked less if there was some character development. And if everyone wasnt so bloody optomistic.
@nevermorenovelist
@nevermorenovelist 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chris-rp9df Voyager would have sucked less if it even tried to have better writers. And no Neelix.
@Aragorn7884
@Aragorn7884 2 жыл бұрын
Star Trek V *is* 🔥💩
@robgoffroad
@robgoffroad 2 жыл бұрын
I largely ignore 1, 5, and all the next-gen movies except First Contact. As far as I'm concerned, they don't entirely exist. Along with any TNG episode with Wil Douchebag Wheaton in it.
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 2 жыл бұрын
Well, aren't you just a peach?
@Bayoutot
@Bayoutot 2 жыл бұрын
I watch V for the 1701-A ... she's a beauty ... its like Titanic ... the story is lame, the ship sinks ... but she's still marvelous to look at lol
@BruinPhD2009
@BruinPhD2009 2 жыл бұрын
Wow.
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