The Disco era shuttles made sense to me as taxis. They showed hundred year old tech still functioning in TNG. No reason to completely rebuild a shuttlecraft if there's nothing wrong with it. I'm sure it's got some updates on the inside!
@ashurablaze75452 жыл бұрын
6:28 - To think, the Kelvin Timeline almost became the Iowa Timeline.
@lorigearhardt23712 жыл бұрын
omigosh! lol
@googtubebiased35942 жыл бұрын
Need to call it the abrams garbage line...!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ColinPMcEvoy2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the Tahoe class was included. When I saw that concept art in 2008-2009 I NEEDED that ship in STO. 14 years later I finally have it.
@barrybend71892 ай бұрын
The Avenger was based on it.
@biostemm2 жыл бұрын
That TOS-themed Kelvin actually looks really cool!
@tetravega5672 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Saladin class.
@Nimmo14922 жыл бұрын
Sean, we ALL want Wilson Cruz to come to our birthday parties.
@artemisiatheta75492 жыл бұрын
I want Tig Notaro....
@phlownomenalbeat54212 жыл бұрын
This, so much!
@Nimmo14922 жыл бұрын
@@artemisiatheta7549 Oh definitely, Tig is invited, too
@artemisiatheta75492 жыл бұрын
We'll just have to invite the entire Rainbow Squad :) (And Mary Wiseman)
@sirbobbyuk2 жыл бұрын
3:22: I remember thinking when i first saw this episode what the hell is a D7/Ka'Tinga battle cruiser doing in 2151. The Klingons would have blown them to bits. I do like the D4 design, fits in more with the period.
@KayleighBourquin2 жыл бұрын
I've always maintained that the Kelvin-verse game was actually fantastic. I loved playing it so much I've played it twice.
@artemisiatheta75492 жыл бұрын
Yes, Sean, the Eaglemoss model is really nice :) Funny story, I ordered it and they accidentally sent me a k't'inga-class ship. They made good and sent me the right ship.
@Sephiroth1442 жыл бұрын
A meta win.
@cb-gz1vl2 жыл бұрын
I thought they did use this in the Enterprise two parter with the Soong children.
@artemisiatheta75492 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they didn't
@sirbobbyuk2 жыл бұрын
11:04: When I saw the Discovery shuttle in Picard. I felt that there had been some cost-cutting in designing new ships. Even in the shipyard they were using the same design ships.
@ElmerCat2 жыл бұрын
Missing "Ups and Downs" for the latest Prodigy episodes - I hope you'll get to them soon!
@Capt.Harriman501st2 жыл бұрын
Me too I was disappointed not to see one last week. Maybe they will double it up this week. Both episodes were pretty good.
@marvellegends_uk2 жыл бұрын
Sean is looking sharp!! New barber?
@cellscribe2 жыл бұрын
The eventual Saru makeup had some strong similarity to The First Born, a.k.a. Speakers, in Babylon 5. I suspect this was not one influencing the other but a need in both cases to let the actor work through the makeup.
@joeespin43772 жыл бұрын
i wouldn't doubt it in the least because kurtsman and co. have NEVER had an original idea they are the ultimate repurposers, they take as much from both other better franchises as well as their own.
@sirbobbyuk2 жыл бұрын
7:59: The Kelvin is along the similar design to the Saladin class starship
@robspadre55192 жыл бұрын
The Starfleet delta was originally only meant to be worn by the Enterprise crew, as a ship sigil. See TOS. It’s something that every other prequel series has ignored. Starfleet adopted the delta later on to honour the flagship.
@GB_GeorgiaF2 жыл бұрын
That's not true, the Delta is for Starship Duty, not the Enterprise
@federicomarintuc2 жыл бұрын
Not right
@robspadre55192 жыл бұрын
In TOS, every starship had its own symbol. Look it up.
@robspadre55192 жыл бұрын
In TOS, every starship has its own symbol. The delta was for Enterprise.
@DMSProduktions2 жыл бұрын
@@robspadre5519 You are right Rob!
@cmoser222 жыл бұрын
I have been saying for years tjat the disco u iforms are a spiritual bridge between the enterprise era jump suits and the original series uniforms!
@elmerlopezjr40892 жыл бұрын
When i saw the Tahoe, i saw Voyager. Not the Enterprise E...
@ColinPMcEvoy2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Sean isn't the only one who's on the Culber band wagon. Honestly I think Wilson Cruz wins "most handsome Doctor" in the Franchise.
@Jelly_Skelly2 жыл бұрын
Hey Sean, I notice you guys haven't done Ups and Downs for the last 2 Prodigy episodes. Everything okay?
@Seal06262 жыл бұрын
The algorithm didn't like them.
@Sephiroth1442 жыл бұрын
See, the secret for the Iowa- the SHUTTLECRAFT Winona Kirk left on was the Iowa, (the Kelvin shuttlecraft were named for American States). Yes, this is pure conjecture, but why the heck not?
@Jasonjones-h2xАй бұрын
Try finding any of the concept designs for the Congo class variant to the Enterprise J. I think this looks better than what we ended up with saddly
@tetravega5672 жыл бұрын
Tahoe class looks like it has a Peregrine fighter-ish winged craft docked on the saucer.
@sirbobbyuk2 жыл бұрын
12:20: Yep that archer class design does look good
@alanfischer19482 жыл бұрын
Sean- Enjoyed this, but different topic question. Have the Up/Downs on Prodigy been put on hold?
@arbjbornk2 жыл бұрын
The new Prodigy episodes might not be available overseas yet, for them to review, after Netflix dropped the new Treks this autumn.
@LokiTheKhajiit2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I wanna know too. And they have an American as part as their team now
@earnestbrown65242 жыл бұрын
@@arbjbornk Use a VPN. That's what almost ever KZbinr is shilling nowadays.
@UtilityPro2 жыл бұрын
You can’t blame a video game for the franchise that shat on exciting cannon.
@jean-marcandjoshua-petsjournal2 жыл бұрын
The t-shirt is great. CTRL Z is a very powerful command.
@andrewtaylor9402 жыл бұрын
Damit! Now I want an Archer class skin for my Inquiry. That saucer looks so much better.
@minicle4262 жыл бұрын
I'd like to put up DS9 Gorn Light Cruiser.
@julianmhall2 жыл бұрын
In all design and in use the philosophy is probably 'If it works use it', so designs remain unchanged until someone shows their way works better, then /that/ becomes the standard. Ergo the basic ship components don't change just occasionally their arrangement.
@QuixoteX2 жыл бұрын
I have no problem with older ships showing up. I would hope by that time we'll have grown past the disposable society we have now. Maybe some taxi service uses old shuttles. Obviously ships from the future require explanations.
@timothypage252 Жыл бұрын
I could imagine Picard having an antique car/shuttle. Still newer than the vineyard.
@MB-uu3mu2 жыл бұрын
excellent list! Love the USS Archer too! Keep up the amazing content. LLAP!
@chronohippy82062 жыл бұрын
There's a scary thought mirror universe Sean 🖖
@bmhedgehog22 жыл бұрын
Hey Sean! When are you going back to Ups and Downs for Prodigy?
@Sealhunt2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a top 10 concept design video for Star Trek's big bads.
@darinbauer81222 жыл бұрын
Really cool stuff.
@cidespecific2 жыл бұрын
I wonder is Culber's eye makeup is a reference to Cruz's character in "My So-Called Life." I don't think any other male-identifying character in DISCO's mirror universe had worn makeup as far as I remember.
@coltigh42322 жыл бұрын
Sean's shirt is absolute 🔥
@angeluslupus2 жыл бұрын
I "Need to see" the Ups and Downs for _Prodigy_
@lovipoekimo1762 жыл бұрын
Check out Lorien from Babylon 5 and you'd see where the current Saru's design derives from.
@sirbobbyuk2 жыл бұрын
13:25: Seeing Saru character develop through the season has been interesting and it was interesting having him as captain, even though goody too shoes Burham kept cropping up
@ricknick53182 жыл бұрын
She's the bestest ever
@arrjay24102 жыл бұрын
I like the Saru makeup. Problem with sci prosthetics is just that sometimes. If it is too extreme it goes from being an Actor in makeup to a Puppet, (feel free to use that comment).
@SVSky2 жыл бұрын
ST is a franchise that constantly shoots itself in the foot
@majestyc03592 жыл бұрын
A note on fashion: fashions come and go, but some stick around. For example: blue jeans were invented in 1871. Still around.
@MrPeter9242 жыл бұрын
Great show.
@OwentheKingofDudes2 жыл бұрын
Where are the videos on Prodigy?
@morrisgautreau67042 жыл бұрын
Another great video Seán! 🖖🏻👨🏻🦲👍🏻
@jarrodsteers89912 жыл бұрын
12:57 Ah, yes. The Cut-n-Paste Fleet.
@shinerdrinker92492 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit ashamed to admit when Sean mentioned Star Trek 09, I thought I had forgotten a Star Trek TV series or just plain missed one. Doh!
@ugochukwuanadyk69542 жыл бұрын
So I guess we all are just going to ignore the fact that you guys owe us 2 ups and downs
@DarrylsB2 жыл бұрын
So happy Doug Jones does not have ten eyes!
@alanw0832 жыл бұрын
Are we not getting ups and downs on Prodigy anymore?
@MudSluggerBP Жыл бұрын
They played the born on the USS Iowa gag in Strange New Worlds and you gave it a down 🤦🏻♂️🤣🤣
@timeliebe2 жыл бұрын
The concept art for the synth factory makes me wonder if the concept artist wasn't originally drawing it for ST: DISCOVERY overall, given the main doctor designing the synth is clearly Dr. Culber, and it looks like Stamets is standing further down the line.
@ninodino4442 жыл бұрын
The word incredible got so devalued over time.............
@GudeDoc2 жыл бұрын
Beer? O_o
@JF-M2 жыл бұрын
natürlich
@MattFergusonmwfergo2 жыл бұрын
Can't help think that when it came to the Copy/Paste fleet that the presenter and writer were pulling their punches when it came to critiquing it.
@BlackHatCinephile2 жыл бұрын
Cool.
@mantis49342 жыл бұрын
the USS Archer looks like a kabuto beetle head in reverse
@JaredLS102 жыл бұрын
5:09 really long Iphone on the wall.
@dgatsby64952 жыл бұрын
Your hair grows fast 😧
@lokisgodhi2 жыл бұрын
Why no Ups & Downs for Prodigy episodes S01E06 Kobayashi and S01E07 First Con-tact?
@leonrobinson81802 жыл бұрын
12:03 This is what you're here to see
@ChrisTian-ed8ol2 жыл бұрын
I don't like Discovery, but I THAT had been Saru, I'd had kept watching after season 1.
@barrybend71892 ай бұрын
The fact the Archer class isn't on the legendary Avenger in STO is a travesty.
@user-fl2wn5zr5z6 ай бұрын
they worry about starship design but they are going of the real mission of star fleet
@theviewer14232 жыл бұрын
Forward to the future I suppose
@Davidbmr19702 жыл бұрын
STILL, IN 2022: There is no ship in canon named after James Tiberius Kirk. That's criminal.
@TCTurner2 жыл бұрын
I feel like that Qwertee you're wearing has much more meaning....
@SkydreamPony Жыл бұрын
Kirk never said he was born in Iowa, just from there
@adapedneau11142 жыл бұрын
Did DS9 get a refit ???
@captainsinclair79542 жыл бұрын
Did you all forget that Ups & Downs exists as something you guys can do?
@ricknick53182 жыл бұрын
They'll probably use it for the anomaly aliens
@richardb62602 жыл бұрын
I despise single nacelle starships.
@jaanikaapa69252 жыл бұрын
Saru concept would have triggered trypophobia too.
@dboymax12 жыл бұрын
I think the Suliban from Star Trek Enterprise filled out that role...
@sirbobbyuk2 жыл бұрын
4:42: I think the design for engineering was really badly done. The same could be said for the USS Kelvin engineering section, it look like it was film in chemical works
@sarahscott53052 жыл бұрын
Looked more like a brewery to me!
@sirbobbyuk2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahscott5305 I work in(hic) engineer(hic)ing
@CantankerousDave2 жыл бұрын
Close. It was a brewery, the Budweiser Brewery in Los Angeles.
@christopherg23472 жыл бұрын
#9 That design looks just fragile to me. Nothing a Klingon would fly in.
@joermnyc2 жыл бұрын
Who puts windows on a Klingon ship?
@monarchsub88842 жыл бұрын
this was a pretty underwhelming list id have to say the archer was about the only thing that looked cool or show worthy
@dreamrestore2132 жыл бұрын
JarJar Abrams determined to ruin EVERYTHING
@wrbsloat2 жыл бұрын
WHY IS STAR TREK DISCOVERY EVEN MENTIONED. STOP TALKING ABOUT STAR TREK DISCOVERY IT IS A ADMOMINSTION.
@TedStryker712 жыл бұрын
No USS Copy/Paste… please.
@YeeSnarky2 жыл бұрын
You lost me at Discovery... plus add break!
@pwnmeisterage Жыл бұрын
To my eye, those Discovery uniforms are a blatant ripoff of Fallout Vault Suits.
@nomercyinc67832 ай бұрын
theres nothing interesting about behind the scenes about ships nor who created them. if they look good on screen or film and are effective. it doesnt matter who designed them in the real world. nobody designing fictional shit is important at all
@robertfarr9186 Жыл бұрын
Anything that JJ touched didn’t do well because it sucked and he relied too much on the cop/paste feature in his script app
@villafanmart2 жыл бұрын
Thank fuck there is a speed up option on KZbin videos. dude, you talk way way way too slow
@sirbobbyuk2 жыл бұрын
11:19: The uniforms in Picard, didn't look right and as for the admiral uniforms. they really should have put some thought into it
@ryane37032 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was a shame the uniforms from all good things only got used in that episode. The admiral uniform was very uninspired though didn't fit with the ordinary uniforms at all but the design would be perfect for the picard era
@arbjbornk2 жыл бұрын
@@ryane3703 The All Good Things future uniforms got reused in DS9's the Visitor and VOY's finale Endgame.
@kevinwebster78682 жыл бұрын
One should never EVER mention Star Trek Discovery.
@ugochukwuanadyk69542 жыл бұрын
🙄🙄🙄🙄 Oh please
@tetravega5672 жыл бұрын
But, but YOU just did...
@CaptRobertApril2 жыл бұрын
Wilson Cruz, "the nicest guy on the planet"? I'm guessing you've never seen his Twitter rants about white people...
@ralfhtg10562 жыл бұрын
JJ-trek is NOT Star Trek! I do not understand why you cover that shit in your otherwise awesome videos. It clearly contradicts almost everything we know from previous, real Star Trek. If I was you, I'd leave that crap out entirely. And Enterprise is also no Star Trek for me for the reasons you brought forth with the D4, for Klingons appearing in the series, when the Fact Files clearly say the first contact with Klingons was in 2218, for Ferengi appearing in the series, when it is clearly stated that Captain Picard and his crew are the first Federation people to ever see Ferengi vis-à-vis, for the "Akiraprise" being more futuristic then the NCC-1701. This all makes this whole series non-Star Trek to me.
@travisavila862 жыл бұрын
Do you all have any non English. English speaking hosts? The accents make this channel very difficult to watch