10 Tips for Winning a Debate

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The Atheist Voice

The Atheist Voice

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@caryna23y
@caryna23y 7 жыл бұрын
I don't care about the audience, I care about the judges -.-
@ahanaquazi1346
@ahanaquazi1346 6 жыл бұрын
Carol Ordaya hahahahahaha
@akintolasam-jolly9497
@akintolasam-jolly9497 5 жыл бұрын
Savage
@blammmed
@blammmed 5 жыл бұрын
nowadays the general public is the harshest judge
@9yearold678
@9yearold678 5 жыл бұрын
The judge IS your audience
@doordiecalmmindwins7911
@doordiecalmmindwins7911 5 жыл бұрын
Me too😇😇😇
@randomguy4359
@randomguy4359 9 жыл бұрын
i nearly failed every tip while telling my parents that i am an atheist.
@genesis204
@genesis204 7 жыл бұрын
Arsany Osama so edgy. Did you make a coming out video?
@DarkAmerica
@DarkAmerica 5 жыл бұрын
This just made me laugh so hard hahaha
@realThomastheCat
@realThomastheCat 5 жыл бұрын
As long as you live in their house, obey them you filthy basement dweller! Other than that, then you are free to believe anything you want to believe
@earthterra8546
@earthterra8546 4 жыл бұрын
I'm an Atheist and idc what others think
@obi-wankenobi4650
@obi-wankenobi4650 4 жыл бұрын
@@realThomastheCat fuck off
@aderek79
@aderek79 10 жыл бұрын
Smile, but stay away from the creepy, condescending professional apologist smile.
@RonZombie91
@RonZombie91 10 жыл бұрын
Like the Wendy Wright bitch that debated with Richard Dawkins.
@nicsnort
@nicsnort 10 жыл бұрын
RonZombie91 That wasn't really a debate she was more like a cat pawing at a glass window trying to get in but not realizing there is something in the way.
@MauroEnfermoDeLepra
@MauroEnfermoDeLepra 10 жыл бұрын
RonZombie91 Or lane Craig, his smiles are creppy
@RonZombie91
@RonZombie91 10 жыл бұрын
Tyrion Lannister I'll have to watch that one. Who was the debate with?
@MauroEnfermoDeLepra
@MauroEnfermoDeLepra 10 жыл бұрын
Every time he opens his motuh, there are tons of debates of him against hitchens, Harris, Dillahunty...
@DaxCorsiar
@DaxCorsiar 9 жыл бұрын
"They mean well. They're just wrong" I'm dead....
@TheWindslash
@TheWindslash 8 жыл бұрын
+Dax Corsiar (Weeaboo) As in you died laughing?
@DaxCorsiar
@DaxCorsiar 8 жыл бұрын
DuaneTheDarknessDragoon B No. Like I died from a heart attack.
@zeeutuber1315
@zeeutuber1315 8 жыл бұрын
+Dax Corsiar (Weeaboo) I died because I couldn't handle how suborn and ignorant my 11 year old christian/creationist sister is, I died of depression, I felt I couldn't save her from the void of suborn ignorance that is creationism... Lol, but really it gets on my nerves.
@luukdikken1150
@luukdikken1150 8 жыл бұрын
+Zee Utuber most christians are
@zeeutuber1315
@zeeutuber1315 8 жыл бұрын
***** She's like my mother, except she's not even as open minded as her... So, I don't see any change coming...
@humbertojimmy
@humbertojimmy 8 жыл бұрын
1:32 "Speak to the audience like you're having a conversation at a restaurant"... So, you mean i should say "shut up and just pass the salad" or something like that? ;-)
@XxKungFuTiger
@XxKungFuTiger 8 жыл бұрын
No he's saying talk to them not at them in a way. Don't preach to them talk to them.
@humbertojimmy
@humbertojimmy 8 жыл бұрын
Michael Frueh Ok. No salad. Got it.
@blazegaming8969
@blazegaming8969 5 жыл бұрын
1:25
@Cowboy-uw7jz
@Cowboy-uw7jz 9 жыл бұрын
As a Christian, I'll be the first to say I like Hemant Mehta. I've been watching his channel for a little while now just trying to get a grasp on the Atheistic worldview. He is honest and a great communicator. He is right about this approach. As a Christian myself for a lot of years I have avoided Atheists because of the negative stereotype of being rude, but coming across the friendly atheist I don't get that vibe. He talks to you like you are a real person and doesn't demonize you like The Amazing Atheist, Essence of Thought, and Jaclyn Glen do. Atheists need to take notes from this guy. Seriously. I'm now questing my faith and doing more research into science (evolution and intelligent design) and history of my faith because of this approach. Hemant Mehta's approach is very effective so please take his approach. It does work. Yes I do know there are a lot of Christian zealots out there and I would be the first to apologize. I'm not like that. I know Christians have been hypocritical in America. I do know Atheists who have had there family excommunicate them because of their Christian beliefs. That isn't right. Even if your child becomes an atheist, as a Christian we should love them unconditionally anyways. Same for homosexuality. As a Christian I'll be the first to admit I don't understand everything about my faith, especially the God of the Old Testament and Hell. I'm not a fundamentalist that doesn't think critically about the Bible. I'll admit I don't have all the answers but thanks to Hemant Mehta I am really starting to think critically about my faith. Thanks for the challenging questions and I will take these to heart in the future and treat atheists with more respect.
@kyliem6609
@kyliem6609 9 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@Chasenyx
@Chasenyx 9 жыл бұрын
Michael Jonas Thank you sir for your comment, it's like the first rational non- bashing comment I've read in a while in the internet. :)
@editakahankova7066
@editakahankova7066 9 жыл бұрын
Michael Jonas You are great. As an atheist myself who lives in country where religion is slowly dying(there is only around 15% of religious people in Czech Republic)I never had the need to be rude or aggresive toward other people believing in anything different than myself. Since I found Hemant I had chance to think more about how to communicate with religious people and what not to tell and stuff....if there were more people like you the world would be better place. People just need to accept other people ..with their religion, race and so on..... if that would happen no one would need to be rude or obssesive.
@davidjoffe-hunter7016
@davidjoffe-hunter7016 9 жыл бұрын
Michael Jonas You have done brilliantly with that post. Thank you, sir, for existing
@themanhimself1229
@themanhimself1229 9 жыл бұрын
Michael Jonas feel free to becum a atheist!!
@AntiCitizenX
@AntiCitizenX 10 жыл бұрын
#11: Avoid debates over matters of fact. Focus the debate on matters of epistemology. Do not simply assert that X is false. Show why the justification for X is poor in the first place. Force them to answer the question "how do you know that?"
@nofascistideologies8742
@nofascistideologies8742 10 жыл бұрын
Dann858 #13 take notes. These people have been trained since childhood to spit bullshit, argue like an angry child, dish insults, talk in circles, assert feelings as facts, change the subject, misrepresent everything that contradicts them, talk as though an authority on subjects that they are not qualified in, pretty much invented every logical fallacy there is, and oh yeah.....flat out lie and accuse their opponents of being untruthful.
@nofascistideologies8742
@nofascistideologies8742 10 жыл бұрын
***** A seemingly normal gentleman told me, this last Friday that: 1) Atheists hate Christians 2) Atheists are on AL Qaeda's side 3) Atheists hate America 4) Atheist are always on the extreme opposite side of everything. I tried to be civil, but when I said I didn't think those claims were correct, he ran off. I'm not 100% sure if he knows I am an Atheist, but I don't see any of us who hold these 4 ridiculous positions. See what I mean?
@K3wlG33k
@K3wlG33k 10 жыл бұрын
Daniel Dennett Wow those are really are dumb assumptions. Things that I would have said to those claims: 1) I love my family and on good terms with them, and they're almost all Christian. 2) Seriously? I think they're radical extremists carrying out horrific acts of violence against the innocent for no good reason other than that it says to do so in their Holy Book. Now, doesn't that sound familiar (hmm)? The problem lies with a lack of education. 3) It's true that I think America is getting dumber and heading in the wrong direction, but I still love it, nonetheless. 4) That is a huge generalization you've made there. Your claim holds the same value as, for example, looking at a 2x2-m area of ocean water, finding no fish, and claiming "there are no fish living in the ocean." Now, does that make any sense to you? You've taken one thing (maybe two) we disagree with in particular and created a mountainous claim that I am against everyone and everything, which is simply untrue.
@nofascistideologies8742
@nofascistideologies8742 10 жыл бұрын
K3wlG33k I work with this guy and he is (usually) one of the most sane people I can think of, but he just flew off the deep end and then we got interupted by another manager when I was getting ready to argue against his first point, he ran off. On his first point, I would have stuck to my honest position that "hate" (for me) really, has to be earned. When I think of people I hate...I think of people who are predatory and parasite off of other humans example: pedophiles, CEO's like that jerk that runs Walmart (not Bill Gates). Those are the types who I reserve my hate for, because they earn it.
@RadarHawk
@RadarHawk 10 жыл бұрын
Daniel Dennett PRAISE ALLAH!!!!..... I mean......Christianity is stupid.
@gir-qd4sf
@gir-qd4sf 10 жыл бұрын
1)Throw out mined quotations and cherry picked data 2)scare them with an untestable punishment if they do not side with you 3)attack a straw man of the opponents position 4)compare your opponent to Hitler 5)Claim your confirmation bias is correct no matter what 6) Lie 7) Manipulate your audiences emotions 8)Attack your opponents faults instead of his arguments 9)Tell your audience it is our side or theirs, there is no middle ground 10)plug your books and dvds Did I forget any?
@realThomastheCat
@realThomastheCat 5 жыл бұрын
Attack a strawman? Compare your opponent to Hitler? What weak tips. Great for high school debates but for the search for the truth, this is Non sequitur and debaters who use these must be filthy liberals or ignorant buffoons whose only goal is to win instead of finding the truth.
@heejunsir2942
@heejunsir2942 4 жыл бұрын
@@realThomastheCat r/whoosh
@jerran_duty
@jerran_duty 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this is describing atheists or Christian’s.. lol both unfortunately. If we just had respect for one another without the condition of similar beliefs.. it’d be great
@bandersnatch9793
@bandersnatch9793 8 жыл бұрын
I must say, as a Christian, I was first put off by the channel title and the intro. However, this video is probably one of the most helpful ones i could find on general debate. So, thank you very much, and have a wonderful day!
@monica3954
@monica3954 8 жыл бұрын
:3
@bandersnatch9793
@bandersnatch9793 8 жыл бұрын
sorry? I'm a bit confused by your response.
@monica3954
@monica3954 8 жыл бұрын
Its a face. I didn't have anything to say so I put a face. ^-^ T-T :D :p (>0.0)> Faces :3
@bandersnatch9793
@bandersnatch9793 8 жыл бұрын
Okay, thanks.
@corbinaalderts5597
@corbinaalderts5597 8 жыл бұрын
Same, I just acted like it was turned around and these were tips for Christians.
@CidGuerreiro1234
@CidGuerreiro1234 8 жыл бұрын
You can never truly "win" debates with people these days. They'll just twist your words and pull whatever fallacy and tangential argument they can to keep things going. Just look at the amount of people who know nothing about evolution constantly trying to discredit evolution. It's maddening. Winning a debate on social networks is a war of exhaustion, whoemever quits first, loses.
@TeslaNick2
@TeslaNick2 8 жыл бұрын
+CidGuerreiro1234 You're so right. Surely that's the point of a debate - to discuss opposing views in an open forum, not to win or lose.
@richardstoltzfoos9145
@richardstoltzfoos9145 8 жыл бұрын
+jinitron Ok, how about a debate right here in the open? I'll defend theism. I can never find any people in these comments who want to debate.
@TeslaNick2
@TeslaNick2 8 жыл бұрын
Richard Stoltzfoos I'm atheist, I'm up for a debate. I see no reason to believe a god of any sort exists due to the lack of evidence. All I ever get in a debate with theists is fallacy after fallacy. If you feel you can construct good, valid arguments, feel free to do so.
@richardstoltzfoos9145
@richardstoltzfoos9145 8 жыл бұрын
+Tesla Nick The first argument I will raise is the Kalam Cosmological Argument. 1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause. 2. The universe began to exist. 3) Therefore, the universe began to exist. This is a deductive argument. This means that if the two premises are true, the conclusion follows logically and inescapably. Hence, to deny the conclusion, one must deny one of the premises. This makes for nice debating format. But are these premises true? Well, let's examine them. 1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause. Is this true? Well, think about it. In our experience, we do not experience things popping into being from nothing. Raging tigers don't appear in one's bathroom from absolutely nothing. While you look at your computer screen right now, vampires don't appear behind you uncaused from nothing(you hope not). So it is true that we don't experience this happening. At all. But then, why would the universe? What makes nothingness so discriminatory? I think we can then rely on this principle, that for every effect, there is a cause. For every egg, there is a hen. Premise Two I like to summarize as follows: 2a. Either the universe is eternal in the past, or it began to exist. 2b. The universe is not eternal in the past. 2) Therefore, the universe began to exist. 2a is logical. 2b can be supported using numerous philosophical arguments against an infinite series of events, as well as (drumroll, please) the second law of thermodynamics. If the universe had been eternal in the past, the stars(including our sun) would have burned out by now. The universe would have run out of usable energy. So it seems to me the second premise is undeniable. Now what does this argument leave us with? Well, it leaves us with a cause of the universe. This cause must be immaterial, spaceless, and timeless, because it created matter & energy, space, and time. It must be transcendent, because it transcended matter & energy, space, and time. It must be uncaused because an infinite regress of causes is impossible. Some would also argue this cause must be a personal being as well. So this leaves us with a tremendously powerful, immaterial, spaceless, timeless, uncaused, transcendent, personal cause of the universe, who created the universe and everything in it. Much like...God.
@TeslaNick2
@TeslaNick2 8 жыл бұрын
Richard Stoltzfoos The Kalam argument fails for a number of reasons. Premise one commits the argument from ignorance fallacy. We have no way of studying what may or may not have caused the universe to exist. Premise two also makes assumptions. We've yet to demonstrate the universe had a beginning. We only know that the universe expanded from a prior state to what we observe today.
@TobyKidMajor
@TobyKidMajor 10 жыл бұрын
This video was immensely comforting. When you're disagreeing with someone in a roomful (or townful) of people who think you're going to hell, it can be hard to keep a cool head. Good tips!
@hani-vd5kw
@hani-vd5kw 5 жыл бұрын
TobyKid Major
@tanmaytikle8521
@tanmaytikle8521 8 жыл бұрын
Great video Sad to see people in comments section being absolutely blind and not understanding what you are trying to say
@unlikelysalmon786
@unlikelysalmon786 6 жыл бұрын
Tanmay Tikle Absolutely. I've been looking through here for half an hour and all I can find is "God is real" and "No he's not".
@nathandotson6350
@nathandotson6350 7 жыл бұрын
The smiling tip is no joke. I used to be a conservative christian, and then I watched the Bill Nye v. Ken Ham debate and bill always had a smile on his face when explaining his points. Also he could dumb it down so even I could understand his views, and after months of research I became an atheist. Great tips. 😀😀
@benjaminlloyd3425
@benjaminlloyd3425 10 жыл бұрын
When I grow up I want to be just like Hemant Mehta.
@sofakinggenius4936
@sofakinggenius4936 6 жыл бұрын
I also want to be like him. But not exactly him. I would like to be VIVEK
@doneestoner9945
@doneestoner9945 4 жыл бұрын
Also, he is very handsome.
@YodaWasSith
@YodaWasSith 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video. You could not be more right. I was actually involved in a debate that my debate club hosted when I was in high school, pertaining to Mormonism and Polygamy. I'd never been in or watched a debate before, I was just some 17 year old kid who had kind of a reputation for being an out-of-the-box thinker, so they asked me if I would like to join in the debate. I was talking to one of my then and now friends, my science teacher, a fellow Atheist. Living in a rural town in Utah, Atheist friends were hard to come by. He told me basically everything you said in this video, except with a high emphasis on admitting when I'm wrong and arguing opinions instead of facts. I went into the debate feeling confident and came out of it having learned quite a bit about Mormonism and Polygamy, and also an unshakeable feeling of victory. Almost every person in that room that day would tell you that I lost the debate, but there's a good reason that I feel like I won... By the end of the debate, one which I barely was able to withstand without losing my composure because of the incredible ignorance, I had one person asking me questions that I simply couldn't answer. I told him if he wanted answers to those questions that he should add me on facebook and send me a message. For the next month or so, we sent thousands of messages back and forth pondering life's questions and things in the bible, things in science, etc. I answered his questions to the best of my ability, and when I couldn't answer them, I talked to my science teacher. When he couldn't answer them, I went to google and gave him reliable sources of information, and he actually read them with intent to learn. I created an Atheist, but more than that, I created a best friend. I've had some of the deepest conversations with this guy, we've laughed ourselves to tears, we've considered getting baptized, and we laughed ourselves to more tears. I reached one person in that audience, and it was a victory for both of us. On paper, points-wise, I lost the debate horribly. I blame the Mormon judges, but whatever. Never pass up an opportunity to debate a Christian, because you CAN change lives.
@gableprescott7405
@gableprescott7405 8 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I'm watching this because I'm a recent atheist. I want to have intellectual discussions with people from my church without them trying to kill me.
@brettlocke7054
@brettlocke7054 8 жыл бұрын
don't be open about it.
@iheartanimals4606
@iheartanimals4606 8 жыл бұрын
Don't hide it though, if it's in a conversation it is completely appropriate to talk about. And good luck I went through similar things as you
@ritarita9750
@ritarita9750 6 жыл бұрын
Than get out of that church. They are trying to kill you. lol. Not literally for those who think I mean it literally.
@ritarita9750
@ritarita9750 6 жыл бұрын
Recently an atheist? Did you evolve into an atheist. lol It was a choice, right? I'm interested in knowing why you became an atheist. What is the attraction; the appeal.
@JaneDoe-lt5zr
@JaneDoe-lt5zr 6 жыл бұрын
This is late,but just be true to yourself. If someone wants to have a peaceful conversation, great. Otherwise just walk away.
@JulesManson
@JulesManson 10 жыл бұрын
I think you are awesome. You should have your own tv show.
@naomitwotimes
@naomitwotimes 3 жыл бұрын
You joined KZbin 13years ago, you still alive ?
@lilchris1839
@lilchris1839 3 жыл бұрын
@@naomitwotimes tf does that got to do with anything?
@GoldSrc_
@GoldSrc_ 10 жыл бұрын
Some religious guy once told me that the moon, our moon was older than our galaxy, lol.
@kenbagwell8551
@kenbagwell8551 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, I guess that makes all religious guys dumb and all atheists smart. Thanks Einstein!
@GoldSrc_
@GoldSrc_ 10 жыл бұрын
Ken Bagwell They are not dumb, they are just ignorant, there's a difference sir.
@kenbagwell8551
@kenbagwell8551 10 жыл бұрын
Gordon Freeman I am glad you see that. There is a lot of ignorance and stupidity on both sides of the equation.
@GoldSrc_
@GoldSrc_ 10 жыл бұрын
Ken Bagwell That's true.
@notyou5879
@notyou5879 10 жыл бұрын
The Fields of Ice Shouldn't they want Jesus to return?
@alphacause
@alphacause 10 жыл бұрын
These are great points on debating. I think a person who applies these ten principles fairly well is Dan Barker, a former evangelist and Christian musician, turned atheist who is a leader in the movement to protect Church/State separation. He has such an affable and down to earth style about him that he disarms even the most antagonistic of audiences. Anyone who wants to see how these principles, which Hemant so skillfully articulated, is effective in a debate setting, needs to watch one of Dan Barker's debates. You can find a few of them here on KZbin.
@DrThemo
@DrThemo 10 жыл бұрын
Any time someone asks me to explain something complicated like they're 5, I just say "Go ask your mother."
@BlakeMcTavishe
@BlakeMcTavishe 10 жыл бұрын
I'll stick to master debating.
@baelzeitgueist6918
@baelzeitgueist6918 4 жыл бұрын
@ BlakeMcTavishe - You actually have it wrong by making two words out of one - what you should have written is masturbating - and who really want to talk about that?
@GarbYouAre
@GarbYouAre 4 жыл бұрын
Bael Zeitgueist69 this comment is 6 years old dude. The joke went right over your head you take it too literal
@Alex-yr8iy
@Alex-yr8iy 3 жыл бұрын
Nofap is the way man More Testosterone
@VersionBest
@VersionBest 10 жыл бұрын
I agree with every point except #4 Smile. This can come off to the opponent as a know-it-all cocky superiority complex smirk. Not only that but a debate is suppose to be serious so if I was debating someone who is constantly smiling I would find it annoying and disrespectful. I would rather have a serious look on my face to give an impression that I'm here and I mean business. No fucking around. William Lane Craig does his fake smile routine a lot which makes me want to smack the smirk off his face.
@deejaha3359
@deejaha3359 4 жыл бұрын
😂🤣🤣😂
@danielbautista2561
@danielbautista2561 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tips! I'm having a debate in my Grade 10 English class. Wish me luck!
@MiaMia-xe3oj
@MiaMia-xe3oj 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not an atheist but thank you for the tip! I have an audition for my debate school team tomorow and this can really help me. :)
@MOG007
@MOG007 10 жыл бұрын
So a Christian a Jew and a Muslim walk into a bar....not a good line to break the ice huh?
@RobDegrey
@RobDegrey 10 жыл бұрын
"A Priest, A liar and a pedophile walk into a bar...he sits down and orders a drink...."
@RobDegrey
@RobDegrey 10 жыл бұрын
Bankers are not usually Pedohiles or rapists, Priests on the other hand....
@PurpleDuckTape00
@PurpleDuckTape00 10 жыл бұрын
So a tele-marketer, teacher, and a news reporter walk into a bar...
@Irraanos
@Irraanos 10 жыл бұрын
A Christian, a Jew, and a Muslim walk into a bar. They order some drinks, have a conversation, and enjoy each other's company because they're not total assholes.
@RobDegrey
@RobDegrey 10 жыл бұрын
!
@IsJdog911
@IsJdog911 9 жыл бұрын
you raised some good points but here is where I dont agree Ive played mortal combat an seen Raiden the thunder God kill a shit load of people using fatalities so how dare you say he is not real you blasphemers
@swedneck
@swedneck 9 жыл бұрын
I would read the bible if it wasn't the size of a lawbook
@tonypascale1933
@tonypascale1933 9 жыл бұрын
Tim, just read a chapter or 1/2 a chapter a day. You'll get it quick. And go with king james version. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
@WeKnowTheTruth2012
@WeKnowTheTruth2012 8 жыл бұрын
Id rather read a science book
@shimo7013
@shimo7013 8 жыл бұрын
+Tim Stahel (Moustached Viking) ...A lawbook against gays.
@michaelwickson9951
@michaelwickson9951 8 жыл бұрын
+WeKnowTheTruth2012 do not read the king james bible
@Just_a_niceguy
@Just_a_niceguy 7 жыл бұрын
They are many versions of the bible, try an abridged version containing the important stuff.
@Serquss
@Serquss 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a Christian and I found all of these tips to be very sensible.
@MsViva710
@MsViva710 8 жыл бұрын
+Serquss its true. this is the way we to interract with others we minister to. or have discussions with. I've heard it before in training for ministry.
@gezi0752
@gezi0752 5 жыл бұрын
Serquss you are very sensible to look past the differences of your beliefs and his👍
@chrisfrommarsrichardson2173
@chrisfrommarsrichardson2173 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Although I am religious myself I think these tips are valid and will use them myself about other things in my life. Bless
@STNTechHD
@STNTechHD 8 жыл бұрын
most important tip. know that you may be wrong. be open to your mistake and admit it if you come to that realization
@josephstalin9939
@josephstalin9939 8 жыл бұрын
That's the point of a debate.
@pencilonpaper1026
@pencilonpaper1026 6 жыл бұрын
Joseph Stalin lol
@multigamer8637
@multigamer8637 8 жыл бұрын
1:00 my 6th grade teacher said "you're not attacking the person you're attacking their thoughts".
@spw959k9
@spw959k9 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Thanks for the very sensible advice!
@suvarenee
@suvarenee 10 жыл бұрын
I really like your points here. Especially #7. Educated people should have an good understanding of the Bible. Subscribed.
@adamstake716
@adamstake716 8 жыл бұрын
Mr. Mehta, I want to thank you for this video. I appreciate the tips you put in here to create a better debate environment (especially smiling, it's the little things). I'm a Christian who enjoys talking about these things with other people and to do so in an environment that isn't full of personal attacks but solid dialogue is the best way to discuss ideas, even ones we disagree with. Thanks again, Adam Stake
@MohdImran-1994
@MohdImran-1994 7 жыл бұрын
this was greatly helpful..thank you..
@prototypeatheist
@prototypeatheist 10 жыл бұрын
I think that knowing and relating to your audience and staying calm are key. I agree that earning the audience's trust and conveying the argument in a relatable manner are essential, and it is very important to consider when choosing how to frame or state your argument. You don't them to feel like their intelligence is being insulted by making things too simple or completely lose them by getting too complicated. As for arguments like "the Bible is literally true", "homosexuality is a sin", or Pascal's wager, I'd welcome them, not get angry. As you said, they are easily refuted. Just quote some unsavory Bible verse (like Numbers 31:17-18), point out that Jesus said nothing on homosexuality and point out all of the other Leviticus sins modern Christians ignore, and deconstruct Pascal's weak argument.
@DIDUKNOW7777
@DIDUKNOW7777 10 жыл бұрын
There's a difference between trusting in a man-made religion and having a rich spiritual life; and relationship with God. I don't follow man-made religion, nor do I trust its devices. However, I do value the spiritual principles of Jesus Christ. The two in particular I value the most are "Love thy neighbor as thyself"; also "What ye measure to others the same shall be measured to you." Can you imagine if everyone in the world thought like that? Can you imagine what this world would be like if everyone thought that way on a collective scale; through collective consciousness? There would be no war, no one starving, no murder, no adultery, no theft, no duplicity, no envy; just love.
@cubeandcollect
@cubeandcollect 6 жыл бұрын
DIDUKNOW7777 Agnostic and I wholeheartedly agree.
@sonalibhatnagar7507
@sonalibhatnagar7507 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the amazing tips , especially the one about admitting that our opponent is right . thanks a lot.
@rajendrasinghsisodiya9853
@rajendrasinghsisodiya9853 5 жыл бұрын
It was very helpful for me in my scl debate compition 😊😊😊
@supekele
@supekele 10 жыл бұрын
Somebody should show this video to TJ (The Amazing Atheist)...
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 10 жыл бұрын
I don't think TJ debates much, he usually just makes social commentary videos, which is something completely different.
@blakenelson4158
@blakenelson4158 10 жыл бұрын
Nerobyrne social commentary in the form of shock jock. makes him hard to listen to. at least to me.
@supekele
@supekele 10 жыл бұрын
Blake Nelson Even when he's right it's usually for the wrong reasons. Like, he's wrong on an Aristotelian level.
@jamo6079
@jamo6079 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I dislike him. He's a too prominent feature to represent the atheist community in the USA.
@MiaGadegaard
@MiaGadegaard 10 жыл бұрын
Words of wisdom. I rarely argue with christians in particular, mostly other religious groups.. but I have argued a lot, and he knows what it's like and gets it spot on, couldn't have said it better myself. Everyone wishing to post a message on the internet in general such watch this. But.. just to be bitch I would like to say that "winning" a debate brings a sour taste to my mouth though, it's nothing about winning, it's about helping brain washed people realize that things aren't necessarily how they were taught when growing up, and all that religious zeal their entire life has been a complete waste.. so I think it's very important to at the same time be supportive of the person as a human being (not their religious views), and not fall into the trap of feeling cocky and rubbing salt into the open wound if you feel you have the advantage in a debate.
@2kzoltan
@2kzoltan 10 жыл бұрын
The best tip for winning a debate against a Christian is not showing up at all.
@majd8138
@majd8138 10 жыл бұрын
From my vast experience ... the best way to win a debate is to avoid it , some people are full of shit,you can't fill them with an ounce of knowledge or wisdom....
@jlupus8804
@jlupus8804 3 жыл бұрын
1. Don’t be unlikable 2. Be respectful 3. Dumb it down / make me feel smart 4. Smile 5. Don’t win over the opponent 6. Stay calm 7. Don’t be afraid to praise other authors and works 8. Don’t be afraid to admit when you’re opponent makes a good point 9. Be honest if you don’t know it all 10. Be patient
@iamthem134
@iamthem134 10 жыл бұрын
I am a high school debater and I enjoy the thrill of dismantling arguments immensely, but I wish they would take your advice of being more conversational and admitting a good point. That's actually how I won some of my rounds, contrary to popular belief.
@RhodokTribesman
@RhodokTribesman 10 жыл бұрын
I'm an atheist and when the atheism vs Christianity debate comes up I am rather good at it and back my argument with facts. I may join the debate team in the future
@TheLazyKey
@TheLazyKey 8 жыл бұрын
I am of the mind to think approaching a debate with the intent of "winning" is counter-productive. I believe the aim of a debate should be for each side to alleviate disparity, collectively approach the most correct conclusion(s) given what knowledge they have. No matter how dumb/misguided you think your opponent(s) is, you should never automatically assume they are wrong until you understand their argument from an unbiased, rational point of view. Thoughts?
@felixlara8100
@felixlara8100 8 жыл бұрын
there usually are none on one side
@zaarongaming8174
@zaarongaming8174 5 жыл бұрын
I think a debate can very much be won if a person is not stubborn. 99% of people on both sides are though. Half the time I'll be beating someone in an argument and they'll just go all out on the ad-hominen fallacy (insulting me unrelatedly to the argument) and ignore my points no matter how good the argument is.
@sachinkhot9655
@sachinkhot9655 5 жыл бұрын
Diabetes
@ericaerica4957
@ericaerica4957 6 жыл бұрын
I have no clue how I got here but Jesus is Lord and that all that matters
@barnacles1352
@barnacles1352 4 жыл бұрын
K
@blackcommunion3820
@blackcommunion3820 8 жыл бұрын
the Bible is the word of man not the word of God
@sisicreative5306
@sisicreative5306 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like you're trying to get someone here mildly mad
@bassemelias6176
@bassemelias6176 7 жыл бұрын
and the proof is ..... ?! oh w8 , nothing
@kuzeydemir910
@kuzeydemir910 7 жыл бұрын
john shoffner stil there are things in it that happens to day
@allentolentino6602
@allentolentino6602 7 жыл бұрын
The most dangerous creation of man is God. (c)
@kuzeydemir910
@kuzeydemir910 7 жыл бұрын
Allen Tolentino the creature that trown rapist in hell? Humans are the most dangereus creature they are using the free wil GOD gave them for evil and ate being punished for it
@dieuanh2356
@dieuanh2356 5 жыл бұрын
My own tips: 1) Look at the judge. that's who you want to convince 2) speak fast but clearly 3) have an opening line and conclusion 4) be organised in your speech- bring notes 5) note your arguments 6) remember to rebutt the other side
@SADilNikad
@SADilNikad 6 жыл бұрын
He is actually explaining how good direct marketing should look like :) All new marketing firms which are in face-to-face marketing should listen to this
@lakshyakumar5034
@lakshyakumar5034 5 жыл бұрын
It is my first time I am participating in debate so I want to do best
@cenotalstudio9150
@cenotalstudio9150 7 жыл бұрын
im not good at a debate when talk about religion. but no one wins to me in trashtalking
@maritime9297
@maritime9297 3 жыл бұрын
Then you ought to move to rap battles
@chrisworth2102
@chrisworth2102 10 жыл бұрын
There is no debate. Crazy people don't know they are crazy. Try debating with someone in a mental hospital who thinks he is Napoleon, it is the same thing with people of faith. Faith is not a virtue, it is a defect.
@chrisworth2102
@chrisworth2102 10 жыл бұрын
faith fāTH/ noun 1. complete trust or confidence in someone or something. "this restores one's faith in politicians" synonyms: trust, belief, confidence, conviction; More antonyms: mistrust 2. strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
@chrisworth2102
@chrisworth2102 10 жыл бұрын
religious nutjobs don't define their terms clearly when they argue that we have the same faith in science as they do in god. It is nice to see that you ignore things that don't suit you in all books, not just the goat herder's handbook.
@genesis204
@genesis204 7 жыл бұрын
chris worth I bet you have faith that a "multiverse" exists lol
@ExatedWarrior
@ExatedWarrior 8 жыл бұрын
I think you made a good point on #8 but I would like to see it more heavily tested and analysed with examples.
@johnchristie6684
@johnchristie6684 7 жыл бұрын
I am so inspired by these clips of Hemant! Everyone should watch them, and then think about them.
@EFGteamsup
@EFGteamsup 9 жыл бұрын
god created us in his own image, god created gay people in there own image, god is.... O.o
@OM-oy5yn
@OM-oy5yn 9 жыл бұрын
God can change from male to female very easily we cannot do this. There is no real gay apartheid. Gays are just another human with a label.
@OM-oy5yn
@OM-oy5yn 9 жыл бұрын
Oh please. Education or propaganda? There is a world of difference. There is nothing to this gay apartheid. Everyone wants to be proud of something. Pride is stupid. It is just another bigoted display of separatist elitism.
@EFGteamsup
@EFGteamsup 9 жыл бұрын
No look up statisitcs: the percentage is same in all civilised countries wich maked it natural, other animals do it wich makes it also natural these facts can b witnesed by papers of universities and documented proof you can witness, also since i can support ma claim and you support your claims with own assumptions that otherd have... Pride? Wich you can't back off either, result i am right
@OM-oy5yn
@OM-oy5yn 9 жыл бұрын
Oh, are you arguing at cross purposes with your idea of what I am saying? Oh, sorry. It was my fault for not expressing myself clearly. There is no magical force in this universe, this is mere lust, that is all, nothing important, don't waste time condemning people for lust manifesting in different categories. Water hole you poke or whatever you allow into your life it is not the same as love, it means nothing. Love is real. Love has nothing to do with satisfying the lusty demands of the body. It has to do with your soul. A man who rapes his wife in the same way that men violate each other is no different. They should all be ashamed of their lust and control themselves. Fith cannot approach pure fire, it must burn to ashes.
@OM-oy5yn
@OM-oy5yn 9 жыл бұрын
Watever*
@dingo9961
@dingo9961 8 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that planting seeds of doubt won't always be helpful. Chances are they're going to look into the Bible for answers and to restore faith and since the Bible has answers that restore faith it won't last long and in fact even strengthen our faith. Also, not to be rude or start an argument or anything, I do just want to say that Christian channels and sermons and stuff like that don't devote their time towards learning and teaching how to prove others wrong.
@dingo9961
@dingo9961 8 жыл бұрын
But thanks for the tactics. I may be Christian but I can use them too. Thanks :)
@dingo9961
@dingo9961 8 жыл бұрын
+Dingo363 Studios Also, just one more thing. Making this type of stuff makes us look ignorant and uneducated and seems like we're refusing "fact". Just please, to all atheists out there, remember to treat is like the people we are and not uneducated ignorant stubborn little kids.
@aimarrodriguez4955
@aimarrodriguez4955 8 жыл бұрын
+Dingo363 Studios if you don't wanna be treated like an "uneducated ignorant stubborn little kid" don't believe things inly uneducated Ignorant stubborn little kids would believe...
@dingo9961
@dingo9961 8 жыл бұрын
+aimar rodriguez Charles Darwin was Christian. Was he an uneducated ignorant little kid?
@maujo2009
@maujo2009 10 жыл бұрын
Give us a list of your favorite debates and why you like'm :)
@genesis204
@genesis204 7 жыл бұрын
Mau Jo Hitchens vs Willam Lane Craig is my all time favorite check it out
@celinejohnston3694
@celinejohnston3694 2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to Hemant Mehta until my ears bleed, I feel comfortable being an atheist. I became an atheist when I read the Bible aged 11. Like Greek mythology , Roman mythology, Norse mythology, and many more, all religions are man made. I'll never change my opinion for anyone...
@msw.960
@msw.960 8 жыл бұрын
For no. 8 telling the audience what you agree with about your opponents argument also helps your audience focus on what your main argument is and shows them what your most focused on informing them about.
@Juxtavarious
@Juxtavarious 9 жыл бұрын
I'm amused by how malevolent this sounds. Probably more from watching most of the playlist all in a row like I have been but it just reminds me of a stereotype about atheists that I see rather often. The idea that atheists generally sit around and think up ways to rob people of their faith or lead them astray. Like they're some kind of cartoony, mustache twirling villains. Just sounds like the kind of thing preachers have warned against from the pulpit.
@AnEnormousNerd
@AnEnormousNerd 9 жыл бұрын
This seems malevolent to you? In what way? It seems strange to me, because of all the atheist videos I have watched, this is probably one of the least aggressive. He isn't insulting the religious, performing any ad hominems, or even really making fun of them.
@Juxtavarious
@Juxtavarious 9 жыл бұрын
Like I said, based on my previous experiences listening to preachers talk about how others conspire against Christians to relieve them of their faith and hearing atheist friends talk about how "we don't just spend all of our time sitting around and thinking about Christians and ways to screw with them." And then watching a playlist (about two straight hours) of videos about questions to ask, things to say, how to debate Christianity, etc. I'm not saying that it IS malevolent, but that because of my particular amalgam of experiences it can seem to have that appearance. It's the context of all things that makes me giggle.
@AnEnormousNerd
@AnEnormousNerd 9 жыл бұрын
Juxtavarious Fair enough, all of life is subjective.
@Juxtavarious
@Juxtavarious 9 жыл бұрын
Matthijs Noyce And that's part of what makes story telling so much fun :D
@AnEnormousNerd
@AnEnormousNerd 9 жыл бұрын
Juxtavarious Indeed! (=
@baconuniverse805
@baconuniverse805 8 жыл бұрын
I manage some how to get convert a hardcore creationist to Buddhism, thanks for the tips!
@akashdeo6228
@akashdeo6228 8 жыл бұрын
RECIPE
@ihatetwenty-onepilotsandfe1857
@ihatetwenty-onepilotsandfe1857 7 жыл бұрын
Why would you do that?
@jeremiahpruett8617
@jeremiahpruett8617 8 жыл бұрын
As a Christian, I really respect what you're saying here, and the fact that you are polite about everything. I've dealt with atheists before who just insulted me and called me stupid for believing in a "guy in the sky" instead of responding to my arguments. My attitude towards atheists is very similar to your attitude toward christians. I really don't think most of you mean any harm, I just disagree with you.
@felixlara8100
@felixlara8100 8 жыл бұрын
that is because you haven't met me yet everyone I have debated with hates me because they realise I have a point , hates me because they lost the argument, walk away,slap me ,pretend I don't exist ,or all of the above either way I win
@secretaryfinance-cdo4232
@secretaryfinance-cdo4232 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks :D I was able to get some very good tips as in so good :D hope this will help me in my upcoming debate tournament. Good job by the way :D
@damirbrcko7715
@damirbrcko7715 2 жыл бұрын
This tips are not only for god - no god debates. It is for all kinds of debates. Treat your opponent and audience with respect. Be polite. And it is not about to win the debate. It is about to find truth
@My-Say
@My-Say 10 жыл бұрын
But is it really about winning or is it about getting to the truth? The concept of winning seems to put to the side the idea you can be wrong. As an Atheist, I'm relatively sure theists are incorrect, but I never really seek to win, but to make the other question what they think.
@EliosMoonElios
@EliosMoonElios 10 жыл бұрын
When two opinions have the same value(heating universe vs cooling universe) is about get the truth, but when is a rational opinion against a irrational opinion of course is about rational opinion must win. · Win against religion is not for be better or get glory but to fade the suffering coming from religions, atheism must win to save millions of lives ended every year for religious hate and dogmas.
@zaarongaming8174
@zaarongaming8174 5 жыл бұрын
@@EliosMoonElios Excuse me, but you're saying that religion causes millions of lives ended each year because of hate and dogmas? I do say that it sounds like you're talking about rather extreme cases. I don't think that non-extreme cases (the vast majority) of religion are causing people to kill each other. Sure there are cults but that's a twisting of beliefs. Also could you explain to me how the issue of is religion true an irrational case vs a rational one?
@EliosMoonElios
@EliosMoonElios 5 жыл бұрын
@@zaarongaming8174 Bible say you should apply sadistic laws there is not way to ignore it and the definition of faith is, as bible and Jesus say, belief without see that is the base of any fanatic mindset, religions PROMOTE FANATIC BEHAVIOR. There is nothing rational in belief deities exist without proofs. "that's a twisting of beliefs" In bible God command dozens of genocides and killing of women, babies, children and elders. A boy was condemn to death for gather sticks in sabbath. Bible say in a wife is not virgin she must be killed. bible say if a virgin girl is raped she must be forced to marry her rapist for life. God allow the Devil torture God's most loyal servant for a bet. Bible say sick people must not be allowed in the church. Bible say if a newborn is sick or paralytic, as sins are punishment from sins, then that baby than never sin is sick because his/her parents sins. Bible is full of sadistic, degenerated and grotesque stuff condoned or demanded by God so don't say theist than do bad thing are fanatics theists. In china people eat dogs and cats, people hate that but GOD SAY "Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything".
@EliosMoonElios
@EliosMoonElios 5 жыл бұрын
@@zaarongaming8174 I repeat millions die for religions: religious healing methods like shamans.(dogma) Useless pray-healing.(dogma) Killing albinos in Africa(dogma) Pray and do nothing else for their how welfare.(dogma) Kill rival religions.(hate) Kill gays, atheist , witches, black magic religions.(hate) Millions of Jews in Nazi regimen have a chance to escape but they don't escape because they belief "God will protect us". 30%(2,000,000) of the 8,000,000 of annual deaths in India are caused by bathing or drinking water from the putrid HOLY RIVER OF GANGES for purification or healing purpose(the irony). See? India's religion alone kill 2,000,000 of people every years.
@zaarongaming8174
@zaarongaming8174 5 жыл бұрын
@@EliosMoonElios ​ EliosMoonElios Please cite examples of the sadistic laws you are mentioning from the bible so that I may know what more precisely I'm debating. The bible mentions that jesus is talking to his disciples and says that those who believe without seeing will be rewarded. I don't think that fanatic is a good term to use here because fanatic is usually for an extreme cause. I also don't think that fanatic in this case is bad. What's people being fanatic over this going to do? Best case: get people to go to paradise forever. Not bad eh? Worse case: Causes people to lose a bit of time, but they still get to meet all sorts of people and socialize anyways. Worst case: they lowered their chances of believing in the wrong god by believing in one but they got unlucky and were wrong and idk much about different religions. Still better than being an atheist in 2 out of 3 situations tho. I don't think it's irrational to believe in a deity of some type without proof. If there's a 1% chance of there being a god and them going to hell if they don't believe in that god then a person won't want to risk that so they'll reduce those odds as much as possible. That also works vice versa with a 1% chance of paradise forever you want to increase those odds. Also there is proof which I'll post here: I don't think that it is reasonable in the slightest to think there was at some point nothing and then it just came to life. Therefore you would have to believe that the universe was always here. On the contrary to that you would be able to go back to before life when there was just matter or whatever, and there is infinite time in between life and that because if it always was then you can keep on going back forever, and there would be an infinite amount of time between something happening which you can't get through because it's an infinite amount of time. There'd also be infinite time before an event which would cause time to pass through the infinite amount of time. Cults are fundamentally a twisting of beliefs because they change the bible. Could you cite an instance of genocide being commanded so that I can debate with you? Saying that a boy was stoned for gathering sticks on the sabbath is not a realistic portration of what happened. It was a man for one thing. The context of this is that it takes place in a chapter all about intentional vs unintentional sin. Therefore it is highly likely that this man was intentionally doing this, and was not ignorant. He was deliberately disobeying a command from god himself, and putting himself over god. His heart was not in the right place here, and that is reasonably punishable by death. That is further rectified in a chapter where a man is donating money to the church, but he lies about how much he was giving as a percent of his net worth. We can also give god the benefit of the doubt here that this man probably didn't just mess up once. In those times if a woman had sex and it was not with the man she was to marry it was law that she would die. Jesus mentions that many of the things told to the people of the old testimate were said because their hearts were hard. It is reasonable to think that this is only a law because it was a great wrongdoing to do this act in the past, and so this act having a high punishment is reasonable. This wouldn't apply today though. Your statement about it being a bet is ACTUALLY pretty funny man. Good one. Anyways the earth was designed to be a tribulation and God knew his servant would prevail giving God a good reason to reward him on earth and in heaven, so everybody wins here (except the devil I guess but screw him anyways) also it's not exactly torture. Could you give me the context for the sick people thing? If it's leprosy then yeaaaaah people don't wanna die, and if it's something people get better from then they'd get better and be allowed in so I'd like to know what the context is as it probably doesn't fit into those things I'm thinking. You don't seem to understand the social structure of biblical times. If a woman was raped then she had nobody to marry, and would basically be in a reallllly bad spot. She's also not forced to marry. Her father can do something (I forget what exactly) and save her for someone else. Babies were not punished from their parent's actions (apart from being brought up poorly or not as a christian etc.) that was just a misunderstanding from the people. The bible doesn't condone evil. I'd need you to back up that last part of that for the bible to be filled with nasty stuff or whatever. "so don't say theist than do bad thing are fanatics theists." I don't really understand this, I think you made a typo or something if you could clear that up that would be great. "In china people eat dogs and cats, people hate that but GOD SAY "Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.".". People hate that people eat dogs and cats but that's a social issue. That's not a moral issue. There's not really anything in general morality that would say cats and dogs are less valuable than cats. So yeah the bible is fine if you eat cats and dogs. It doesn't mean most Christians are cool with that or aren't though.
@synjames4311
@synjames4311 5 жыл бұрын
"they mean well, they're just wrong" 😇😇😇😇😇😇 oh! im a christian btw 👍
@Alex-yr8iy
@Alex-yr8iy 3 жыл бұрын
Christian here as well
@SheaSheaOnUrTUBE
@SheaSheaOnUrTUBE 8 жыл бұрын
Jesus Has the Keys Here are the words of Jesus in Revelation 1:18: “I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.” Keys are a sign of authority. If you have the keys to my house, you can open it and go in anytime you want. It is often said that the devil owns the gates of hell-that is, he has the power of death. But that’s okay. The devil has the gates, but Jesus has the keys. We have nothing to fear in the moment of death for when the time comes, Jesus will personally unlock the gate and usher us into his presence. “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?” (John 11:25). If you believe in Jesus, you will never die. What an amazing promise. But believers die every day. Yes, but for the believer, death is merely the passing from this life with all its sorrows into life eternal in the presence of our Lord. The question is not: What happens when we die? But rather: What will happen when you die? Death is not the end of the road, it is only a bend in the road. For the believer, death is the doorway to heaven. For the unbeliever, it is a passageway into unimaginable suffering. These things are true even if we do not fully understand them. They are true even if we don’t believe them. What happens when you die depends on what happens before you die. Here is my final word to you: Make sure you’re ready to die so that when the time comes, you won’t be surprised by what happens next. A Truth to Remember: What happens when you die depends on what happens before you die. I love you my Lord and SAVIOUR, Jesus Christ...
@isaacsamuel3253
@isaacsamuel3253 6 жыл бұрын
jesus is real and living
@eliasv.k6704
@eliasv.k6704 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus is even doing great things in our church.....U are one of the leaving example of Christ......
@botas5254
@botas5254 6 жыл бұрын
Suppose I’m wrong about atheism. I’m standing outside the pearly gates and St. Peter, or God Himself, gives me one chance to explain myself. What would I say except “I’m sorry - I got it wrong. I really tried. But I got it wrong. I saw all the different religions, each saying different things, all changing over time. It seemed just a part of human culture, not ultimate truth. I saw unnecessary suffering and couldn’t make heads or tails of it, if you were good and all-powerful. It didn’t make sense to me to posit something existing to explain existence: that gets it backwards. I’m sorry, God, that I didn’t believe in you, but it wasn’t malicious - I just - I just screwed up.” What would Jesus say to that? Would he send me to suffer forever? Do I deserve to be tortured eternally for trying to think rationally?
@doctorsayce1010
@doctorsayce1010 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks , This really helped me and made me think about my tatics when debating someone :D
@HaloForgeUltra
@HaloForgeUltra 10 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH, I HAVE A DEBATE NEXT WEEK AT SCHOOL!
@rainick
@rainick 10 жыл бұрын
slay them like your avatar! ...Wait no that wasn't advice I was supposed to give. Slay them like the christian god. No, that's the same piece of advice, well no it is worse.
@Roninkaits
@Roninkaits 9 жыл бұрын
"Ken Ham actually believes what he says" Yeah...I have to disagree on this. I honestly think he does it for the money. I refuse the accept that there are people that really believe how he does.
@everettsass3801
@everettsass3801 9 жыл бұрын
Roninkaits I think you would be surprised
@HulkRemade
@HulkRemade 9 жыл бұрын
Roninkaits He looks like one of those who actually do believe but doesn't know.
@Roninkaits
@Roninkaits 9 жыл бұрын
It saddens me to admit it but yes, some humans are just that idiotic. Ken Ham I think just knows that he can make a boat load of money (even though he spent a boat load to build an actual boat that will never touch the ocean) I think Ham knows better, if he is smart enough to rip off as many people as he does then he has to know better. He's just deceitful manipulative and a bastard is all.
@kaarl1815
@kaarl1815 9 жыл бұрын
you're saying you can't believe how idiotic people can be, but you realise people believe in an invisible sky fairy that never has and never actually will exist? it's a fucking pathetic concept and I can't believe people still waste their time with this bible shit. Because believing a book that's written by people who didn't know where the sun went at night is definitely true.
@edgarespinosa7894
@edgarespinosa7894 9 жыл бұрын
***** come on Bro, can you just share your opinion in a non antagonizing way? You got a point, but ion think Christianity would've gotten this far as to the most practiced religion in the world for no reason
@fluffycloud8118
@fluffycloud8118 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is very religious.😳 (I don't have anything against any religion)
@Caro-dv7gx
@Caro-dv7gx 9 жыл бұрын
You seem an anti-christianity guy ... not an atheist
@noire1706
@noire1706 7 жыл бұрын
caro monge he comes from a Christian background, so of course he's going to focus on Christianity a lot more
@genesis204
@genesis204 7 жыл бұрын
This. Every atheist I've ever encountered is utterly obsessed with refuting God.
@charimonfanboy
@charimonfanboy 6 жыл бұрын
Almost every atheist I have ever encountered doesn't care about any God whatsoever
@plaguedpixel39
@plaguedpixel39 5 жыл бұрын
@@charimonfanboy Same, lol. Being an atheist myself, I know that many atheists just say that there is no evidence for God, thus you can't postulate that He exists. There are atheists with other viewpoints of course, such as agnostics, who just say that they "don't know" whether God exists or not. I find it quite rude when people try and say atheists want to disprove God. No, they just want proof that God exists.
@YenzQu
@YenzQu 10 жыл бұрын
This is really good advice. You are right; it is a common trap to go into a rebutting-frenzy where you think you have to invalidate every single point you opponent makes. If you are not cautious this can lead to you barricading yourself into a position that is outright wrong. For example saying that is no morality in the bible. There is no reason not to appreciate the moral agenda of the Sermon of the Mount, of course not without adding that Aristotle said it all before and that the God of the Old Testament is still pretty monstrous. If you manage to reach out to your opponent while still staying critical saying: ”C’mon buddy, we may disagree how to get there, but we still want the same thing...” and he then beats your hand off, you have pretty much won the debate. There is one type of debater I’m struggling with. Especially among Christians you often encounter people who try to act all smiling and confident and try to fraternize with the crowd while they avoid to make any specific assertion you could call them out on at the same time. And if you bring your own arguments they just say: “Why are you so angry?” In the end they don’t really want to debate and let you run against a Teflon wall. What is the best way to deal with these people?
@ericstockley
@ericstockley 10 жыл бұрын
Being a Christian I want to say one thing you do right is what almost every other atheist channel gets wrong "you listen" and "speak rationally". I come and listen not because I think your right on any level but because bring rational thought to the conversation and give me a view I want to understand and so I can come back with just as rational answers. Thank You. We may never agree but if we all agreed it would be a boarding world.
@Jcdlf7
@Jcdlf7 10 жыл бұрын
try go to darkmatter2525 there funny and really good
@kekizeki2481
@kekizeki2481 8 жыл бұрын
"Plant some seeds of doubt" Maybe avoid the satanic verses like that if you are looking to improve atheist image lol
@o0IAmCallOfDuty0o
@o0IAmCallOfDuty0o 8 жыл бұрын
In what way is that a satanic verse... It's a god dam expression like comeon man you must be uncomfortable with your religion. did those seeds get planted in your head?? Let's hope you reliase your wasting time going to church , reading fairy tales, and praying to the ceiling have a good one!
@kekizeki2481
@kekizeki2481 8 жыл бұрын
gadfg gfeed It sounds very satanic, trying to get people to give up their faith and thus hope, which will lead to lower quality of life. But missery likes company I guess...
@o0IAmCallOfDuty0o
@o0IAmCallOfDuty0o 8 жыл бұрын
In what way is religion making a better quality of life? I ask because I'm assumeing you think athiests are bad people who do nothing for the greater I man kind . And it's not getting them to give up it's getting them to open their eyes an see that life can be awesome without someone elses views guiding you every step of the way through life I just don't see a need to devote my life to any organized religion because there all wrong since every religon seems to think there right ssoooo I'll play it safe an enjoy life without interference from any thing, person, (GOD), religion ect...getting in my way from being happy and doin what's RIGHT not whats right . Best part I give my self all the credit not from believing in god Good day
@kekizeki2481
@kekizeki2481 8 жыл бұрын
gadfg gfeed There are different ways to practice religion, organized religion is just most recognized. You can believe in God without going to church, or you can believe in eternal soul without particular deity, but to be atheist is to believe we are animals with enlarged central nervous system. People generally are not equipped to deal with this bleak outlook on life, mainly because it isn't true and to promote atheism is akin to promote depression.
@revimfadli4666
@revimfadli4666 8 жыл бұрын
"..believe we are animals with enlarged central nervous system." I thought atheists define their ideology as a "lack of belief", or so some told me
@tysond64
@tysond64 10 жыл бұрын
FIRST?
@Jcdlf7
@Jcdlf7 10 жыл бұрын
no
@tysond64
@tysond64 10 жыл бұрын
George the hacker Welp, I tried.
@shreekrishnashrestha6024
@shreekrishnashrestha6024 8 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your tips These are just awesome thank you !
@AFDozerman
@AFDozerman 10 жыл бұрын
I don't think christians would want their god to be real. If he were, he would be quantifiable; testable. One of the greatest strengths that Christians/Muslims/pick-your-religion have in debates is that, because god is imaginary, they can move the goalposts wherever they want to. It is *because* he is imaginary that he is great.
@anandsrivastava9207
@anandsrivastava9207 5 жыл бұрын
Top ten tips on argument . 1.Know your audience 2.Don't insult your Co participants. 3.Deep conversation like talking to audience like mumbikrr nikhil. 4. Smile . 5. Work the audience ( give them something to thing about ) 6. Stay calm 7. Don't be afraid to praise their argument . 8. Appreciate opponents point .( It's a sign of strength in debate ) 9. U can say I don't know ( like I have no answer to this ) , but I will even respond you might not immediately but absolutely .
@ashutoshanand4717
@ashutoshanand4717 9 жыл бұрын
you have spoken in very impressive way.. and certainly your points are helpful
@abhinandansharma2144
@abhinandansharma2144 6 жыл бұрын
That felt very convincing..and it kind of changed my perspective about debating
@lewis7563
@lewis7563 9 жыл бұрын
This guy gets it right, and even people that disagree can listen to him because he voices his opinion very gracefully and with respect for the opposition.
@Bitzen90
@Bitzen90 8 жыл бұрын
You want to win the debate, but do you know what I'm looking for? You. I want you. I want to win you. That should be every christians aspiration. As your brother, I love you and everyone just like I love myself that I just want WHAT I believe is the best for all of us. God bless you all.
@verdew8181
@verdew8181 10 жыл бұрын
My late mother would have agreed with all of this excellent advice. Whenever there were family arguments she used to always say "disagree without being disagreeable" and would practice that with everyone. She was a deist with some agnostic traits. Way back in the 60s she loved nothing better than an opportunity for a nice courteous and respectful discussion with fundamentalist Christians such as my aunt or with door to door missionaries such as Mormons or JWs. My aunt was deeply concerned for her soul so she just never gave up trying to get her saved and back in the old church, even though she never could answer Mama's questions or objections. On the other hand the missionaries apparently put Mama on a list of people to avoid talking to, as they would come back through our neighborhood and deliberately skip our house.
@lordshell
@lordshell 9 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. I've tried to use many of these techniques and tell other atheists to stop being so hateful/abrasive (with limited success.) What I usually say is: "How many times have you gotten into an argument with someone about something you believe in passionately and he browbeats you into believing his side?" *crickets*
@xennalenn3962
@xennalenn3962 6 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have a debate at school tomorrow and to think it's my first time! This is helpful!
@ミコムみこむ
@ミコムみこむ 7 жыл бұрын
TIPS FOR CHRISTIANS TO WIN A DEBATE: *STOP USING GODS NOT DEAD AS EVIDENCE FOR ANYTHING
@nickb4559
@nickb4559 7 жыл бұрын
I'm having a debate assignment at school tomorrow. Thanks for the tips!
@eo7593
@eo7593 6 жыл бұрын
3 most attractive things for atheists: 1. Arguments 2. Christianity 3. Made more question and wait the science to put the study into their mouth and swallow it with water of pride. (To heal themselves because they are being bother about God that make them feel tress full.)
@PictureMePerfect9
@PictureMePerfect9 9 жыл бұрын
I am the only atheist in my family, and it's really hard to see how they don't even try to read other books or find other information other than what it's in the bible. I am always bullied and they always try to make me look stupid. One of my family members just said "There is a god, 'cause there is a god, OK". "That's what I was told, so there is a god." There were to many for me to argue or debate against, so I just said ok, so I am a covert now because I am being told by you that there is a god, and that's all I have to know. By the way I believed in god for 35 years. I defended him and my position, then I started to read other books, and other information, boy was I embarrassed to know that I was wrong. I now know for a fact that most Christians are uneducated. Starting with me. It doesn't matter if you go to college or what not, it matters if you inform yourself with knowledge.
@ingvar1996
@ingvar1996 8 жыл бұрын
I was just looking to develop my public speeking skills when I stumbled upon this interesting channel. As a christian I would like to thank you for your great points on debating skills! Watched a few of your other video's and offcourse I don't agree with you on everything but thought I'd let you know I still appreciate your work raising interest in the topic of faith. Keep up the good work and greetings from the Netherlands!
@sudeshnadrc1978
@sudeshnadrc1978 5 жыл бұрын
Please make some more videos like dis... Sir u r just awesome... I am an Indian girl from Kolkata and a huge fan of yours from now...
@acruzerstratman
@acruzerstratman 10 жыл бұрын
I recently had a theism vs. atheism debate in my philosophy class at Neuqua. We won and your videos helped tremendously.
@JRibs
@JRibs 10 жыл бұрын
The most important things are staying calm and respectful. Make sure you emphasize how important it is for one another to concede a point under a logical fallacy before the debate begins, not after it starts. Then they don't give a shit about logic.
@ionman7023
@ionman7023 10 жыл бұрын
These points are more than just tips for a debate but also a well reasoned way to carry yourself in society. Well done, sir!
@sdozer1990
@sdozer1990 Жыл бұрын
Don't tell the audience what to think. Ask them to think.
@louisunger4505
@louisunger4505 8 жыл бұрын
Two points need to be added which are the foundation for any debate: (1) to the best of your ability, accurately understand your opponents position(s) and (2) accurately represent your opponents position(s). These are two elements, in particular, Mr. Mehta needs to do in his videos.
@sir_aken9706
@sir_aken9706 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a Christian but I want to learn how to debate secular subjects like racism, feminism, leftists etc and I think this video gave some pretty good insight. Though, I thing that if I'm wrong (which I hope not to be) about heaven and hell, and the end is just nothingness, it's better than being wrong about God and spending eternity in hell .
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