10 Trail & Enduro Bikes Tested for Efficiency | 2021 Field Test

[@aljowen]

It would be neat if you added a single XC hardtail to the test to give an example of what the best case scenario is as a point of comparison. Awesome test regardless, thanks :)

[@piast99]

and the Grim Donut!

[@noah_m]

@@piast99 YESSSS

[@Montblanc1986]

they did a procaliber with the XC test and it wasnt as fast as the Epic and Canyon

[@youtubeaccount9058]

@@Montblanc1986 Bizarre, right? Hard for me to not attribute to measurement error.

[@baddriversofcolga]

A cheaper trail bike would be cool to see as well.

[@rstrakovsky]

Levy getting progressively more tired was weirdly satisfying.

[@janataman9196]

Oh yes.. ^^

[@calebwrublesky3895]

The intro to field test is the best one of any KZbin series. It gets me so excited when I watch it😂

[@waynephilbert]

I don't know whether to be impressed or disappointed by the Giant, given the Stumpjumper performance. Propain Spindrift seems to have jumped to the head of my next bike list. 180mm travel and it descends supremely well but surprisingly it climbs beautifully. Great job Propain!

[@ayomayo8037]

This is more important than my English class for sure

[@silhill3914]

Gooooood Boooooooy

[@teovrzic8886]

This is your english class

[@travisarnold9530]

This my math class🤣

[@cartermacrenaris705]

You guys are still in school this close to Christmas? What about break

[@grandpa_6.7]

Wait your still in school. Christmas is in 3 days

[@NONO-hz4vo]

Slowest is 204 seconds, fastest is 165 seconds. Difference is 39 seconds. Percentage wise about 20% slower. If you have 20 minutes of climbing you are going to be about 4 minutes back. Or for 40 minutes of climbing 8 minutes. YMMV

[@martenride5949]

Most likely even bigger difference if you go to your limits

[@youtubeaccount9058]

I would like to see the times plotted against the weights. In other words how much of the difference is just weight, vs. everything else such as suspension and shock design.

[@Min2konto]

Correct the times with the weight ratios to be more specific about the contribution of the suspension. I have to say: thoroughly impressed with your endurance. 300 whooping watts for 3 min x 10 means you train a lot/have talent.

[@dirtjumper23]

Plus I got the impression he did multiple laps for each bike?

[@LukaszPelenski]

I'm Getting more and more excited for my propain Spindrift 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@felixnavidad69]

Its a sick bike !

[@martenride5949]

Really an awesome bike for sure! I would also go for the Spindrift if i would buy a new bike but as a student at university i should better save my money :(

[@mojo3398]

me too, i am actually looking for a reason not to order it, my mouse hovers over the order button every day....

[@The.JZA.]

That Stumpy is impressive! I wonder what time the Trance would do with a regular shock? Also I commend you on this test. A lot of people do these tests by feel alone but by having the power meter and keeping your average input to as close to 300watts as possible, it makes the results actually usable. Good job.

[@giffmann2]

Love seeing the Shore with Road Pedals!!

[@andersun16]

Loved to see this. I'd recomment a "flying" start so as to eliminate differences in that initial acceleration. Maybe hit that first timing cone at 10 mph and start timing from a consistent speed.

[@LaceLoop]

Realistically at least half of us are here waiting for the huck to flat and the impossible climb but in the meantime we are watching levy suffer

[@hvheerden]

Yup

[@alicangul2603]

...which is very satisfying in a weird way.

[@lukepw08]

Propane Spindrift for me so far. 180mm with coil and the second fastest climber deffinatly

[@jaysealenduro5618]

You think it's accurate with only one man doing the test? How about a rider's own endurance and power

[@JesseMacie]

@@jaysealenduro5618 Not sure how you missed it, but they are measuring the watts and are able to put the same power down on each bike.

[@lukepw08]

@@jaysealenduro5618 it is accurate because he is using the same watts

[@fwmtb]

@@jaysealenduro5618 It is accurate because he is using a power meter and can recreate the same effort on each test.

[@dank6761]

Just because the average watts is the same doesn't make it a fair test, watts doesn't correlate linear with speed, he could be going faster on some bikes at certain points expending a lot more watts then slowing down, this would cause his average watts to hit higher than his average speed, to double speed means to increase power squared, so he could absolutely pin it for the first 10% then slow down considerably for the remaining 90% getting a slower overall time and yet still hit the same average watts because he pinned it at the start.

[@jeydebelen7395]

I wish they include Commencal Meta AM and TR 2021

[@mtb_alan]

I’m mostly impressed by Levy’s ability to say meaningful things and do chubby bike impressions with a post-climb brain. 😆

[@RideAlongside]

When ya gonna do some I9 hubs sound ASMR recordings Alan?

[@mtb_alan]

@@RideAlongside ha! I’d go the other way with an Onyx or Crank Bros. Stealth. 🤫

[@RideAlongside]

@@mtb_alan the Hydra hub is crazy quiet. I thought it’d be way louder. Check it! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYishKRugLKVb9U

[@braugonzalezf5656]

They get tired every change of bikes so the result obviously aren’t consistently... it’s not the same stamina that y’all use on the first bike that in the last one

[@imrostoffa9077]

@@braugonzalezf5656 Not sure, but they have power readings for each run so you can count total energy expended during climb. The longer you climb the more you fight the gravity the faster you climb the more you fight air resistance... this is atop of just energy needed for elevation gain. But I guess you can omit those and still should be able some trends if they are significant.

[@trkoo]

We want more climbing!! We wonder how specialized enduro would have done?

[@Kcducttaper1]

Excellent comparison! Good call on leaving the shocks open too. Yeah, all the manufacturers brag about it, but I've never seen a single rider switch his shock setting on the trail. The only time I switch my shock setting is if I'm doing a reasonably long stint on a gravel or paved road/trail. Would love to see more objective comparisons like this for sure! Subbed!

[@eduardobraga4461]

Doing ten three min intervals at 300W is a solid workout hahaha

[@lovemakerbgo5394]

11 times , giant was 2 times :)

[@theodoreroberts8524]

I do love how despite huge technological advancements how many different frame/linkage designs are still out there and working so well but differently.

[@dcouture79]

Levy is the man! Such a pleasure to watch his reviews. Shred on man...

[@TheyForcedMyHandLE]

This is so friggin well edited and put together. Great job guys.

[@bryanbischof4351]

Great vid. I’d love to see last years winners get into these comparisons.

[@MattPayne1]

I'd even like to see how upgrades / shocks / carbon wheels / tires effect a single bike.

[@GEOSIMRACING]

Great test. Thanks for taking one for the team here!

[@BrettSampson]

Recently bought the Altitude and was considering the Ripmo and Stumpjumper Evo. So on my longest common morning ride which has a climb of about an hour long climb it makes about a 5 minute difference. That’s neglecting fatigue and assuming the Ripmo is not substantially more efficient than the Stumpy Evo. Pretty substantial! More likely I would just be less fatigued while keeping pace with my riding group. I expect steeper, rougher climbs would make an even bigger difference. Great info!

[@ChrisAkAxTr3Me]

One of the best tests I saw so far. Finally some numbers to evaluate the climbing efficiency :-)

[@Larpy1933]

That fire road seems an excellent place to test. Great video. Entertaining host. Good luck there.

[@NicPottier]

Nice, this is a cool way to test these out. If we really wanted to suss out what part suspension design made it could be fun to even out the weights but weighing down the lightest in each group. Wonder how much of a difference that would make. Do it again!

[@oliverharris9567]

I’ve had a trance x was epic then I went to a Santa Cruz 5010 and I really did just prefer my giant

[@rjahn3000]

I guess I'll just keep my Trance:)

[@Nickskis22]

I love mine and it’s about 1000 buck cheaper then the base stunt jumper that comes with sram sx haha

[@billderas3420]

Excellent comparison of bikes. Thank you very much. Sticking with a Stumpjumper to be next to my Levo SL...LOL

[@jasemaxable]

Will be an interesting vid all down hill. And then the round table wrap up. Good on ya

[@Headlessthirst]

This is fantastic. You guys make such quality videos.

[@UnknownDestiny]

all great bikes.... that i can't afford Edit;thanks for the likes and have a merry christmas to you all :)

[@maarismeier]

a tip to climb technical single tracks on dropper post, just lower it by 1cm or so and it gives much more movement that you need to climb noticed that the saddle was up all the way and the legs way stretched 😁 good impossible climb training though 😉

[@pytek23]

My favourite test so far.

[@wheeldirty212]

Build level, weight, price is also relevant for people who might acually buy a bike. Top level Salsa is half the prize of a Stumpjumper S works for example. But really impressive work no less, don't know how you can come up with so precise watt input with all those bikes!

[@Primoz.r]

That hardtail feeling is why I always leave my shocks open. I bought a full susser and dammit I will be comfortable.

[@jimbo4203]

Yes lockouts are stupid , if your suspension is setup the way you like it why lock it out, if i wanted a stiff riding bike I'd get a hardtail

[@yaishmatheen4274]

@@jimbo4203 its easier for climbing to lock it out. Going uphill and downhill you would benefit with two different suspension setups. Sorry for bad english

[@jimbo4203]

@@yaishmatheen4274 i took my lockout levers , cables off my Scott , i never used them . I just adjust it the way i like . Similar to the way i adjust my suspension on my yz450 . It s how i like it

[@RideAlongside]

It’s interesting that there are so many single pivot suspension designs out there these days. With flex stays being so popular, like the Spur and Stumpy have this year, will we soon all be riding soft tails? Haha. Just kidding. Really like this type of testing and data mining. Way to get a months worth of interval training in ML!

[@slickrock1371]

This is a series I would follow; looking forward to Yeti's results.

[@bentyler5704]

I like how I’m like hmm seems the pro pain has the best pedaling efficiency. Then the nomad come in and CLAPS it was not expecting that.

[@01tangodown]

Just ordered the nomad looks like it will be a decent choice for an all around shredder🤘🏻

[@timquain5341]

Man, I wish the Transition Scout was in this line up. Also the Commencal Clash to go up again the Norco and Propain.

[@richardmason4705]

I think a do over is necessary But start with the enduro bikes and then finish with the trail bikes.

[@McLOVIN_456]

That‘s exactly that kind of video i wanna see. Thank you very much 🥰🙏

[@OvermarsGaming]

Why they didn't test Canyon and or Nukeproof?

[@badsilver177]

Giant is back!

[@vieuxacadian9455]

Great video as always Sir .

[@klassyken]

Best pedal test I've ever seen?

[@madjh8]

No donuts in between climbs? Quite rare. Good job. I like the test.

[@bruceberry7230]

This was super interesting and a great idea to be able to apply the same input into each of the bikes and identify which platform puts turning cranks most efficiently into the rear wheel. I ride a 2020 updated Enduro, everybody says it pedals well -or- great. Is that compared to a DH bike -or- XC or Trail -or- it pedals well considering 170 mm/ 170 mm front/rear? It would be really cool to see this exact same set-up for a video done within a family of bikes. ie. Specialized Stumper Jumper 130/140, Stumpjumper Evo 140/150 and an Enduro 170/170. Pick your brand even...it could be Canyon Neuron, Spectral and Strive -or- Evil Following, Offering, Wreckoning. It would be awesome to know if I am losing 20 seconds every 2.5 minutes of working the better part of 4 miles to the top of X with the same input on an Enduro @170 mm vs a StumpJumper @ 150 mm.

[@alicangul2603]

Levy Everesting Challenge with Grim Donut when?

[@leeherge6443]

Nomad with a strong showing

[@pgjudo]

SC’s worst pedaling, longest travel, 35-lb enduro bike too. Imagine what the other SCs (all better pedaling) can do?! A Tallboy, 5010, Hightower, etc, would have smoked every bike in the test by a mile.

[@mtbkbr]

Where Commencal meta TR 29 2021? Why isn't it in similar tests? very interesting to see it in group tests. Thx

[@nicksknives7777]

Pivot trail 429 and swithchblade are the kings of efficiency in their classes.

[@DnBQemist]

V3 Wreckoning and Following says LOL

[@NoBrakes23]

@@DnBQemistWeagle linkage duel. I like all of those bikes, but I think I like DELTA slightly more than Pivot's DW. I just wish someone offered alloy bikes with DELTA.

[@nicksknives7777]

@@NoBrakes23 save for the carbon it does have a different feel, better in my opinion. Solid and it does have less harshness and vibration.

[@GANENDRAGIRI]

Great vid. I’d love to see it,. Trail & Enduro Bikes👍

[@camwells9726]

Was waiting on the new canyon spectral 29 , dam , dieing to see how this bike stacks up against competition

[@pythebreak]

Que hermosas bikes❤️ espero algún día tener una

[@TheJaymnj]

Way to go giant! Not a status symbol just a trance x.

[@marki-p5065]

Levy....have you ever done enduro Tyer weight comparisons? I've recently changed from 27,5 to 29inch wheels and really notice the gyroscopic effect of the larger tyres and wheels 👍 I'm using Maxi's DHF and Aggressor (rear)...could do with lighter tyres

[@choanlpoto]

Nice stuff just numbers. Awsome. 2 things though : 1- should have tried the Scott ransom with and without twin lock, and same for canyon Strive. 2- should have done a standard time to compare with a gravel maybe. Thanks.

[@Outdawrzman]

Can you do this test with the Santa Cruz 5010, Bronson and Nomad. Please !

[@janataman9196]

Well done Mike, now´s time for donuts. You earn them!

[@jaysoniorg2950]

Why don't you guys ever test any Evils?

[@riggidybang]

Surprised to see Ripmo AF missing from many of this year's reviews (not just PB) - it seems like it would be a decent bike or am I off about it?

[@northshoreboy1313]

Nomad 4th and only 1sec behind the third. 1st Giant thanks to its electronics making rear as hardtail. Second Stumpy S-works 15% lighter. To me Nomad and Salsa systems are winners but Nomad has enduro tyres while Salsa better rolling trail tyres.. So I think Nomads VPP is the best. This efficiency with 27,5 wheels (a bit higher rolling resistance) and 180mm travel makes me think that this lower itineration of VPP has something in it.

[@mikeocksmall6513]

Levy just loves the stumpy

[@amhtxc2960]

Why the Propain Spindrift instead of the Tyee?! The Tyee pedals superbly, doesn´t it?!

[@madbassist2004]

Awesome way to test efficiency!

[@futsalkeegan]

Is nominal power supposed to be normalized power or am I missing something?

[@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120]

Nomad

[@SnideArt]

650b wins the enduro class 👏

[@bryand6094]

No ripmo v2 ?

[@LCNismo]

Santa Cruz ftw😃

[@johannesgruber9050]

the average pulse of mike per bike would be quite interesting, it sounded like the 300 watts of pedaling needed different input from mike... at least he was breathing differently after some bikes... :-D

[@bigboybiker]

Power was measured at the pedals so the input was the same. I’m sure he was getting fatigued throughout the test so his HR would be going up.

[@davidz6576]

It would be awesome to see them all on the same Climb from different Videos. The runner Up video with the We are one Arrival and so on was 1 min shorter in general 🤷‍♂️ so what's more Efficient? Santa Cruz Nomad with the 27,5" wheels or something like the Transition Spire? 😁

[@sapinva]

Give me those bikes with my normal set up - 150+ lbs front and 300+ lbs rear, with climbing switch on, they will all kinda be the same. Seriously though, the Specialized bikes do climb well. Have yet to ride a Santa Cruz.

[@fwmtb]

What happened to the SRM pedals from the XC test?

[@stroudnick]

Harder to quantify, don't most people stand to pedal every so often? That up/down motion is important, it also feels good.

[@NoBrakes23]

I agree. Most halfway decent linkages are bearable when seated, but many don't respond well to standing climbing. I suspect the Ibis and the Salsa would excel in standing climbs, but I'm a Weagle-snob, so I'm biased.

[@keton9685]

I was reading this in my notifications and I was like efficiency what then I looked closer and it made sense

[@myagenthouston]

cool. what about the XC bikes. on the same road. i am curious to know the times for those

[@dirtboxk1ng]

How would the specialized enduro compare

[@bartzalewski]

so I pretty much only flip my shock lever on long fireroad climbs like this - definitely would have liked to have seen an on/off runs just like the live valve 1/5 runs

[@aMilling]

Kinda surprised with the Nomad, 27.5" with decent time.

[@lakayshredsmtb447]

Same here. That time totally got me confused

[@quentin_2252]

for the propain the whelles ar 27,5 or 29

[@Kev.in-Bike]

Amazing selection

[@leamyoi]

Thanks Mike for the extensive research. Would it be wiser to split the test in two parts so that you could ride these bikes more evenly?

[@natewilberding4918]

Remedy review please

[@qualm43]

Surprised by the nomad!!!!

[@johanneshockerup3017]

I must admit, I don't get, why someone would pick the P-Train over the Nomad or Spindrift. When the enduro bikes are quicker uphill, why not just get the extra suspension on the descends as well?

[@pgjudo]

Because foolz are Santa Cruz HATERS. Lol

[@justinwbohner]

@@pgjudo Guilty. SC just seems like a wal mart bike. No, it's not rational.

[@pgjudo]

@@justinwbohner, I’m not sure I believe you see them like that. SC and Yeti have always been prestige brands; Mercedes of MTBs. You kinda sound like a hater who’s trolling. Someday we’ll be able to afford them.

[@Grifterbiden]

Santa Cruz makes phenomenal bikes... Not sure how one could honestly compare a SC bike to a Walmart bike....

[@Milles94]

Sei un grande Mike!!

[@jaroslawwroblewski8108]

I wish to see specialized enduro between these bikes...

[@Windband1]

Thanks Mike! That was good.

[@justinwbohner]

Nomad - pedals as well as a DW trail bike, far better on the descents.

[@MidwestFreerideColation]

I love the field test

[@aeromechmike]

You should've tested a Giant WITHOUT live valve. Most people aren't going to spring for the cost of it and it skews results. And where's the Switchblade?

[@obi-wankenobi9871]

1/5 is basically open, and since 1/5 and 5/5 is practically identical, that should tell you, that its not livevalve, but the frame that makes this bike efficient.

[@aeromechmike]

Basically open or "least active" as he put it doesn't mean it's off. It doesn't belong in this or the other tests.

[@NoBrakes23]

@@obi-wankenobi9871 Agreed. Discount-DW is still a damn good linkage, and Giant can afford to throw a lot of development at it. Maestro is no joke on the climb.

[@velvetMXO]

Have they reviewed the Specialized Status 160 and 140?

[@ethanbenton6676]

interesting that the spindrift was faster even with less watts than the altitude, same with the nomad

[@anthonycorcella7300]

Can you add as-tested weight to the chart?

[@benjaminkreyig6068]

Nice one ;) I LOVE my Spindrift :)

[@cjcox1480]

Man I really wish the s works enduro made it into this test, I wanna see it go up against the nomad. Could it go up the hill as good as stumpy?