10 Unanswered Questions about Hellraiser : Unanswered Questions Episode 32

[@TheBadGuy235]

All right. Loved this. You do a better job at fleshing out the Hellraiser universe than the movies tend to.

[@Soapcloud705]

Love the new graphics Josh! Unanswered Questions for sure are my favorites of your videos. Sad to see you taken from us at the end of video. Rest in pain and pleasure brother 💀

[@saintgummo]

I always think about how Butterball never actually gets sent back to hell in the first movie. He just got smashed by falling rubble. I imagine Pinhead n the rest chilling in the puzzle box and suddenly realizing BB isn't there. Poor Butterball

[@Emulous79]

That rubble probably just bounced off him and he went into hiding. How he got his greasy food is a mystery, though. Can't exactly hide looking like that unless people fed him in restaurant alleys or something.

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

@@Emulous79 He was a fat human. He got his own food.

[@earlleeruhf3130]

I always wondered about that. Also why did the house blow up and how was it intact in the next film.

[@Emulous79]

@@earlleeruhf3130 Maybe the first film was Kirsty's nightmare and she was always in the asylum?

[@thedarknight307]

Is ok, Pinhead and Butterball dont have a good relationship anyway

[@pr0t34n]

I gotta tell ya man, I can watch these videos all day. You go very in-depth and they're all very entertaining, it is criminal that you don't have 1m+ subs

[@EricJae.]

I feel like all your videos deserve at least 2.5M views

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

For question #1, in the Novella The Hellbound Heart, once Frank opens the box, he is so overwhelmed with pain and pleasure that he needs to "unload" himself, which he does on the floor before he's ripped apart. The then odds of a family member coming along and bleeding on that "load", which is the literal and actual seminal impetus to his resurrection is so utterly rare, that the Cenobites are completely unaware of his escape. It kinda bothers me that Hell is these movies are considered actual xtain "Hell". It never was. Hell, or the Cenobite realm was just another dimension. Julia's heart is Hellbound, which is really what the original story is about. How Julia's and Frank's hearts are "Hellbound", so to speak. They are evil people. The Cenobites are barely even in the story. In the new Hellraiser, when Pinhead was finally like, "You have chosen the Lament Configuration", I fkn cried!🤘😭

[@Emulous79]

Yeah, that Frank was a right wanker. Literally.

[@therosebride]

Ok. Who's donating blood to resurrect Josh? or are we just grabbing someone off the street????

[@JohnnyWasabi]

Welp I'm going to miss him. RIP Josh.

[@devilwoman02]

I would donate but sorry we can just grab someone off the street. Lol😂 🩸🩸🩸

[@nerdygoth6905]

Grabbing somebody seems more appropriate

[@Crazy1van]

Big HELLRAISER fan, so I'm glad to see you dive into some of the mess they leave behind. Regarding Pinhead and Angelique, I think they did know each other before, and that, as you mention later in the video, Pinhead sometimes has different hosts. The Marvel/Epic comics did a mini-series in which the Elliot Pinhead goes back in time meeting his former selves; and even the Engineer is given a prior existence within a different human host. This plays well with the BOOM! Comics having Kirsty take over being Pinhead from Elliot, and leaves open the possibility that the reboot Pinhead is Kirsty or another feminine host.

[@ZacharyVogt]

I love unanswered questions. And I liked the fancy intro graphic.

[@WisdomoftheSphynx]

Excellent breakdown of the series 👍👍👍

[@freddymichaelvoorhees7011]

I like the Angelique meeting Pinny(yep, always going to call him that now, lol) explanation you gave, but out of curiosity, couldn’t she have also met him when he was human, and that’s how he first learned of the box? Thus, when she says how things have changed, she’s referring to his look? Just a thought. Probably a wrong thought, but a thought nonetheless

[@te9591]

It's valid.

[@kandrs7445]

I thought it as simple as that demons in her time wouldn't just walk around showing their true nature. As I believe she didn't. Out struts Pin Head, all evil looking and she was like "... Bitch, do you not know the rules?"

[@te9591]

@kandrs7445 she's from ancient hell though, so im not sure who she's hiding from.

[@glenmcculla6843]

I'm glad that by a happy coincidence I was eating fish as I watched this. I got to tear that sole apart.

[@Emulous79]

🤣

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

🐟

[@BruceAlarie]

ha!

[@solomonverrico]

There have been many Pinheads, as the pins and leather are vestments of his role as Hell Priest. Every time he gets replaced (see especially the Boom! Studios comics), no matter who it is is given the same role and the same pins. Kirsty had robes instead of leather, but when Harry took it over, he got the leather and they both had the pins. There's also the fact most of the movies don't really have a continuity, I don't care what other writers think unless their ideas are signed off on by Barker. So yeah, the movies are less canonical to me than the comics. Even the Epic ones and that dorky one with all the guns. But I'll argue that outside of the prose, it's the first two movies, MAYBE the next two for world-building (particularly the idea that Pinhead unbound by a human host is more erratic and is capable of making Pseudobites - Cenobite-like creatures that are far less powerful than the real ones), then the Epic comics and the Boom comics. Then maybe 10% of the other movies.

[@FnRenner]

Gotta love when Josh picks movies where he has to limit himself to ten questions. This series could have an entire season dedicated to the Hellraiser series alone lol

[@creatureslim]

Just to point out. In the book it says Frank left seman on the floor before he was taken and therefore leaving a part of himself connected to the house and his brothers blood was able to allow him an exit from his left over essence.

[@werlost]

that wouldn't surprise me

[@Emulous79]

Frank was such a wanker.

[@tjtharp603]

Those are awesome new graphics in your intro.

[@ReinhardtCustoms]

My favorite series on your channel!

[@TimothyCollins]

Here's the thing - Frank was NOT in "Hell". He might have said he was in hell in a colloquial sense but the Cenobites and their dimension is not hell and they are not demons. The Cenobites are much more lovecratian than that. "Hell" would indicate a punishment but the Cenobites are not there to punish people. They are beings that come to those who desire extremes of experience. As such they provide exactly that but since they are beyond good and evil and pleasure and pain, experience is experience to them. That is why these movies are scary. It's not the torture - it's the fact that they come for desire. And any person paying money to watch a movie such as that also desires these experiences. So it's almost a meta-horror movie since in that case the cenobites may come to share their extreme experiences with those watching those movies.

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

Finally someone else points this out. The Hellbound Heart is Julia's. Even the filmmakers flub that fact eventually.

[@aahzee69]

I love these apologetic looks at horror movies that the original creators probably never thought twice about.

[@vonVile]

Here's 2 more unanswersed questions: 1. At the end of part 3 it shows after the cube is buried in concrete for the foundation of a building it's revealed the building resembles the cube. Did the cube transform the original architecture? What was the building's purpose? How was the cube retrieved? 2. Is Hellraiser universe connected to the Allstate Insurance commercials? Actor Dean (Hellseeker) Winters plays Mayhem in the TV ads causing people to get into accidents. He's clearly gathering souls for Cenobites.

[@shinmusashi44]

Isn't the building at the end of 3 the same one in the modern time from part 4?

[@peterdanior4538]

@@shinmusashi44 yeah, the designer of the building is also the descendant of the box’s original maker. Angelique could basically feel the box in a concrete wall and just punched it out

[@j.r.cilliangreen4083]

I love all your new opening logos!!!! So good!!!

[@john_blues]

Don't worry Josh. Just call Damballa. He'll help you out.

[@MmMm-qe2zo]

Excellent Excellent Excellent!

[@michaelroque2662]

After watching Hellbound Hellraiser 2 I always wonder why Pinhead was so dead-set on getting Kirsty, It makes sense in the book since Kirsty isn’t Larry’s daughter but rather a friend who harbors a crush on him. However for the movie I came to the rather ickier conclusion of a reverse Oedipus Complex. An Electra Complex I guess. Kirsty harbors some form of desire for her father maybe a sexual one maybe not. (This would explain Kirsty’s seemingly unprovoked hatred of her stepmother, before knowing anything about what she has done) Considering the different forms of hedonism in the movie as well as the themes of the book and films, I think this would make sense. It would also explain why Kristy can open the box so easily. The Box is supposed to be difficult to open, but every one gets it in there first try after just playing around for a few minutes. I know this isn’t official but I always believe that desire of some form sexual or platonic is what opens the box. Which is why it’s so easy, because the main characters desire something. Except for Tiffany who is lead by compulsion, Not desire.

[@RennyBQUEEN]

I can answer franks resurrection. In the story, it’s not the blood that brings him back but the blood mixed with his jizz from the first scene of the novella where they come to frank and make him pleasure himself as they make him experience every pleasure and pain he has even had as if they were there happening again. When he finishes, he is torn apart leading to the events of the book (movie). So being both are Clive, I’d say the jizz is related to the resurrection still

[@ThisYearProductions]

Love your work bud, really look forward to your videos. I've also pre-ordered the book!

[@carsonfball4]

Regarding Pinhead knowing Angelique, I had assumed since Pinhead seems to be a title more than a single person (in the comics Kirsty, Jack the Ripper, and other people have also been Pinhead) that the spirit of Pinhead (seen when Spencer is separated from Pinhead) was who knew Angelique. But your explanation makes sense given some of the dialog which makes it seem they never actually met. Regarding Kirsty's decisions, my headcanon has always been that she enjoyed sending Frank and Chanard to Pinhead and opened the box to make a deal with Pinhead to gather more souls for him. He seems to have intended to turn her into a cenobite so this could be seen as her trying to make a good impression or her wanting the job without the "benefits". Ultimately, she becomes a cenobite anyway as seen in the comics.

[@Jake-nl3er]

Iv always wanted a Pinhead vs Candyman film. I think theyd work really well facing off against eachother.

[@RennyBQUEEN]

They exist in the same world so it’s doable. His books mostly take place in one world. Example being Nightbreed and Hellraiser having references to each other. So in the books, that could happen

[@roblopez8481]

@@RennyBQUEEN lord of illusions is connected to. Harry de'more goes up against pinhead in the scarlet gospels

[@bunidanoable]

7:55 I'm pretty sure Leviathan makes an appearance in Hellraiser 2022.

[@jerryhensley6255]

I love part 1 2 3 4 hellseeker and inferno Thank you for clarifying hellseeker to me love Christy again.

[@te9591]

Question #1. I think that matress was what Julia had bled on at some point. So the offer of a fresh blood sacrament was what summoned her back from hell like Frank. That mattress was taken by Channard from the "crime scene" evidence.

[@macabrerapkz]

Yours is a very nice twist on movie review genre

[@te9591]

Qiestion #2. 5:42. You're touching on the power of Kirstys innocence and its effects on the cenobites. I dont think they can tear her apart because she's not fully turned. Basically Hellraiser repeats this Rock, Paper, Scissors dynamic of "the innocent" beats the cenobite, the cenobite beats the sinner, the sinner beats the innocent, the innocent when empowered beats the cenobite etc.

[@nathanaelbuchanan2680]

Fantastic work as per the usual

[@te9591]

Question #7 19:00 Good observations on all this. I think that Pinheads reference to "her time" could be that it's the time of demons running a fiery hell like the traditional hell. As Angelique is a "demon born" cenobite, not a human born cenobite. Lol @ the shaq analogy.

[@earth9544]

Great channel. Hoping it catches fire 🔥 in 2023

[@BruceAlarie]

on fire?? put it out!!

[@davidkosach3095]

That guy playing the professor psych, that is AJ from the movie Warriors ! He was there working on his community service playing the two parts lol

[@MarcusJohanssonKomiker]

Great video!

[@te9591]

Question #3 6:40 it's my theory that the dimension the Cenobites rule isn't the fire and brimstone Christian Hell. It has everlasting torment yes, but really it has a science fiction twist. You have a centralized evil stone that may have extra terrestrial origins due to it's uncommon markings. The stone has a power to torture and twist choice humans into servants. It then has an interest in like 1700s era torture technology that it has mankind design for it since it lacks hands which they use to torture humans. Ex. Chains?, a puzzle box, a chest device, and a stone that held Pinhead.

[@devilwoman02]

Awesome video as always love this very much hellraiser is one of my fave horror movies

[@daveandgena3166]

Josh transforms into a Cenobite, but it's just that freaky baby doll from last year. The other Cenobites have to carry him around.

[@darrenwright9619]

Damn, that t shirt is amazing! I need that in my life!

[@te9591]

I think the Asphyx sounds a lot like those breathing humanoids in Dead Space.

[@te9591]

Also, one thing that people miss with the cenobites is how conceptually close they are to being the horror/occult versions of the Borg.

[@DefConprime28]

Here's to answer your question about Angelique. Who is to say that time in hell and or heaven is linear. If God knows everything and if God is omnipotent, therefore the past the present and the future of already been written. Therefore yes you can tap into Angelique and any given time from any given place if you look at it from a nonlinear perspective

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

The film is linear, there are even three different eras of time.

[@BulletTooth504]

#9: This may seem out of character for Kirsty, but you gotta think about what a shock to her system unwrapping the box would be. Once she understands that Mayhem must intend for the box to be the instrument of her destruction, she has to defend herself. She doesn't seem likely to be able take him out in fisticuffs, and cannot be sure he won't just whip out a gun and shoot her if she doesn't open the configuration. In Kirsty's eyes, Mayhem is just as bad as Frank, Julia, and Charnard. Who was the one entity that helped her (to admittedly mixed results) against those enemies and can potentially be bargained with to help her again? Pinhead. Sure, the five souls she offers were probably all destined for hell, but the Gash would not necessarily have any claim to them over any other factions. Kirsty always had darkness and desire in her, but never to the same extent as some of her family members. Pinhead was probably very pleased with this development.

[@tkskagen]

Great Movie series.

[@mr.bullionnaire9748]

I really enjoy these 👍

[@PHANTOMZ0NE]

Kirsty opened a different configuration during her stay at the hospital. As for Tiffany, I don't know. She opened the Lament configuration like most others before her.

[@JohnWilliams-wl9px]

Pinhead said she did not desire it. So, she didn't actually do want it. She was did it because someone made her do it, which the cenobites don't count as valid.

[@wimvanderstraeten6521]

"Cenobites" is actually a religious reference. In the ancient world cenobites were religious people who lived together in communities.

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

How about a "Gash" of them?

[@maulressurected4405]

I enjoyed inferno, the concept and think it would have been better not tied to Hell raiser, same with the one that brought Ashley back to the franchise. I liked the main characters slowly learning that they are in Hell and their fates are sealed. I'm sure the box will make you watch more Amittyville films.

[@noahjc]

In regards to Kirsty's deal with Pinhead... that could be explained if you consider the comics making Kirsty the future Pinhead...

[@peterdanior4538]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the only time Cenobites show up when the box is opened, it’s when the box is being used to summon them. Like Frank & Elliot are in the empty “pleasure” rooms with candles lit. But Kirsty is just trying to solve the puzzle.

[@aaronabbott6315]

Funny story- I was walking home from my friends house in Phoenix when my ex asks me to stop by Walgreens. Standing in front of me in the checkout line was Shaq. He turned around and I said, “hey, you’re Shaq!” “Yeah man, I’m Shaq.” Then he brought a pack of bubblegum and walked out. True story.

[@jamespierson6334]

Sorry josh this must have been a headache to answer but we definitely appreciate you doing it mna

[@kevindobson3701]

My fav Hellraiser movie is Inferno 2nd fav is Hell seeker.

[@creatureslim]

My question is what happened to kirsty's bf crush from the first movie.

[@Emulous79]

He buggered off after spilling his beans to the police and dropped Kirsty right in it. It's mentioned briefly in Hellbound: Hellraiser II. There's another question. What the heck did he tell them exactly? "My girlfriend wrecked her dad's house and blamed it on a bunch of S&M freaks and a dragon."

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

He met the girl's family.

[@AntoinettexKitten]

I still want to see Hell priest Kirsty in film

[@DarkGodSeti]

7:20 woah pinhead gained weight 🤣

[@harrypothead42024]

I wish Hellraiser would get rebooted. It would only be worthwhile if Clyde were allowed to do it without Studio interference so, it's never going to happen. At least, not in a good way.

[@edwardbloecher4563]

Actually an oubliette is a dungeon and from French a place of forgetting.

[@AntoinettexKitten]

I think the auditor was supposed to be like Balberith

[@brandoncolon1160]

So i can add abit in the comics the cenobites are at war with another group called the harrowers and theres cenobites we never see in the films and its not all hooks on chains some even use hell spears theres more than one gash in the comics as well its really wild

[@yahnatanlevi6894]

Lets get that HBO MAX hellraiser tv series 🙌 👏 💪 💪 💪

[@shinmusashi44]

My question is how in the end of part 1 the house burns down, but in part 2 the house is whole again lol.

[@NeedlessJ93]

All hail Jerry 🦜

[@mrzaphf]

Thank for showing us such sights Josh!

[@clbaker8356]

The Chatterer Beast was a man at one time

[@prestonjones4941]

Question 1. How did Kirsty make a deal if frank wasn't in hell to escape?

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

To lure him back into the clutches of the Cenobites. Frank being in Hell wouldn't have given her much leverage to make any deal at all. They'd have just torn her soul apart right then and there.

[@Mrashxking]

Who made the other configurations we've seen other puzzle boxes and as for question 9 I think it did happen as we saw it on film Christy might have had dark impulses but selling out five people put the cherry on the sundae it is what guaranteed should go to hell for

[@garyhall7867]

So, if Lemarchand made the Lament configuration, why would Leviathan have the same markings on it? One would presume that Leviathan was around before the box was made

[@werlost]

since dr channard had other puzzle boxes, its possible leviathan influences people to build them

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

The Leviathan influenced their creation. There is another known portal to the realm of the Cenobites known by and through a Japanese Origami folder. There are many ways to the realm of the Cenobites, but Lemarchand created 227 puzzle boxes.

[@valiantloony8336]

Cenonibbles 🤣👍🖤

[@davidkosach3095]

I was told she killed those people to save her ass from Pinhead. He sacrificed himself so she could escape the doctor in the mental hospital. But trading 5 for 1 went like this. Would you want 1 Ferrari or these 5, a corvette, a full size 4x4, motorcycle, Benz E350 and a snowmobile. I would trade 5 for 1, but Pinhead took the 5 now verses 1 at a time over a long period of time. So this way does make cense, anybody can be a killer in the right situation. Angelique I was told transformed to this as punishment from daddy for failing to do her job professionally. Ta-da now you got it ??

[@nyghtmareinmi]

Other versions of hell exist. Yes we call that Florida... I said what I said. 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@stopmasterstudios]

i have a soloution the the continuity errors in judgement 2022 and bloodlines during the stygyian inquisition presumably the auditor took over temporarily before he was deposed and a new pinhead was brought in seemingly a new faction of hell loyal to leviathan this lead to some kind of civil war ending up with both the stygians and the faction being eradicated this lead to angeliques return bringing back elliot spencer in order to return to some kind of stability in hell leading into the ending of bloodline just my theory

[@SmoothAdventureProductions]

Movie timelines presents

[@peterdanior4538]

More of an industry question. If someone buys your Spec script and they drastically change it, can you still sell it to someone else so you have it made closer to its original intention?

[@movietimelines]

depends on the deal, but mostly no. they buy the rights to the story as you created it and they can change it how they want. eventually the rights will revert back to you and you can sell it again or make it yourself.

[@peterdanior4538]

@@movietimelines that’s good that the you eventually get the rights back. I imagine writers are split between be happy they sold a script & bummed that it barely resembles what they envisioned

[@movietimelines]

depends on what point of your career you're in. early on, most writers are pretty bummed because they're attached to the work. after a while, though, it's basically, "cool. money. do what you want."

[@dsalmeron]

The ending was cheesy but funny

[@clarkhazle9629]

I believe your version of hell is being forced to watch the Amityville Horror over and over purposely out of order.

[@tolvfen]

Can you really use this consept with the box and pinhead, in other modern stories? It isn't realistic with those chains etc

[@5FtOfRage]

I wish that the Hellraiser movies had more female cenobites

[@Nicolas.Vincent]

The new one has a few

[@samwill7259]

I don't like the implication from the opening that you're masochistically getting off at this job. There's such a thing as getting too satisfied with your own work

[@krisorgan]

What’s questionable about Hellraiser? The original is a horror classic, Hellbound is a decent sequel, 3 and 4 are okay . Forget about the rest, but those first 4 movies are fine and is what I base the franchise on. The Weinstein’s utterly destroyed any momentum the series might’ve had and as far as I’m concerned none of those movies exist. The recent reboot is good though.

[@JulianSandz]

😎😎👍👍

[@stacyjohnson3683]

Ever thought these franchises are real? Lmfao

[@bobgunter9608]

I always callled bound 2 centabite other one

[@AntoinettexKitten]

I think Inferno is the closest we'll get to Jihad.

[@BruceAlarie]

dont say "Pinny" its stupid

[@davidkosach3095]

We were told Pinhead is still Pinhead but was regenerated due to injuries, just like the good Doctor Who does !! Now you all get it 😉🫠 ??

[@kyrdakl7116]

lmao do you know how hard it is to Not answer your questions as you ask them, lmao