10 Underrated Western Flops (#3 Killed the Studio)

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@ashroskell
@ashroskell 4 сағат бұрын
Hostiles is one of the best westerns I’ve ever seen. One of the best stories I’ve watched on screen. The script, cinematography, acting, themes, depth, pacing, detail, you name it. I doubt it will ever get knocked out of my top 10 westerns. I rewatch it often.
@JOELTILSON
@JOELTILSON 21 сағат бұрын
Hostiles is a Western Masterpiece!
@stoneymcneal2458
@stoneymcneal2458 18 сағат бұрын
Hostiles was an excellent story told by an impressive cast.
@Ivan_1919
@Ivan_1919 Күн бұрын
Hostiles was a great movie 👌🏻
@moodyguymick
@moodyguymick Күн бұрын
Agreed 👍
@strelnikoff1632
@strelnikoff1632 Күн бұрын
I loved "Hostiles"
@Reasonablyneutral
@Reasonablyneutral 13 сағат бұрын
Cowboys and Aliens was a fun movie...
@alanmountain5804
@alanmountain5804 Күн бұрын
The Alamo is actually a really good film. Hostiles is excellent. But both these movies I never heard of until their theatrical run was over
@simonkevnorris
@simonkevnorris Күн бұрын
I only ever heard about the movie when it came out on DVD. I've enjoyed it from first viewing.
@RogueDragon05
@RogueDragon05 17 сағат бұрын
You should defiantly check out Seraphim Falls if you enjoyed Hostiles
@JESL_Only_1
@JESL_Only_1 2 сағат бұрын
I have a rule: you can't judge a film until you see it twice (not caring to see again is okay - some good films I've never cared to see again). Alamo: four times. Very, very well done. Hardly a weak scene. A truly great AND important film.
@mikes5637
@mikes5637 10 сағат бұрын
Adding to the love for Hostiles here. First film i saw in 2017 and set a pretty high bar for the rest of the year. I think if Heaven's Gate had an extended version to make the story more coherent and got released as a limited series on a streaming service it would be successful today.
@jdjefferson1323
@jdjefferson1323 3 сағат бұрын
MacKenna's gold is one of my favorite westerns.
@kathrynbrowning4644
@kathrynbrowning4644 Күн бұрын
Well you gave me two films to try to track down: Hostiles and Seraphim Falls.
@eddiemcgrath8536
@eddiemcgrath8536 23 сағат бұрын
both excellent, seraphim falls was on youtube for a bit...kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2OreqlunLGpiqM&ab_channel=MoviedomeUK
@kathrynbrowning4644
@kathrynbrowning4644 6 сағат бұрын
@@eddiemcgrath8536 Rats! It's not available in the US. :(
@richsmith4363
@richsmith4363 15 сағат бұрын
I liked both Alamo and Hostiles very much.
@Mr.SharkTooth-zc8rm
@Mr.SharkTooth-zc8rm 15 сағат бұрын
Hostiles stands head and shoulders above the rest of these. The Alamo taking 2nd place.
@steveschainost7590
@steveschainost7590 2 сағат бұрын
Except for Wild, Wild, West (and Seraphim Falls, which I haven't seen) these are all good movies. I've watched Paint Your Wagon many times because I really like it (including the songs). When I saw Heaven's Gate the first time I had low expectations due to the bad publicity, but I thought it was a darn good movie. Cowboys and Aliens was highly improbable but a lot of fun to watch. I also like Alamo and Hostiles and are on my regular rewatch list. One of the comments below says Seraphim Falls is on yoootooob. I have to look for it now.
@Johnodog
@Johnodog Күн бұрын
Seraphim falls is amazing and so is hostiles. Don't let bad reviews keep you away.
@HistoryOnTheLoose
@HistoryOnTheLoose 10 сағат бұрын
I was in Wild Wild West. Spent several days there. The top memory of my years working in that industry was hanging out, cutting up, and having a scene with Buck Taylor (didn't make the final cut) - a hero of my youth and gentleman, this was a real treat, and the highlight of WWW for me. During delays, Kline entertained cast (over 100) and crew with jokes. Salma Hayek will forever have my respect for standing up for all the ladies in the brothel scene when the POS director kept wanting them to reveal more and more. They were terrified and she championed them. Also have good memories hanging out with Ted Levine as we talked horses, saddles, and tack amongst other small talk. The production was shut down for most of a day when a SAG rep came in on a tip to investigate these sexually improper activities. The tone changed afterwards. The director, sonnenfeld, made his initial mark in the business as a record holding p@&n director. F that weasel.
@Gough-jf9zf
@Gough-jf9zf 6 сағат бұрын
Perhaps IMDB doesn't list pawn, but I can't see Sonnenfeld's name on any such film. Not saying he isn't a w4nk3r.
@patcerra6714
@patcerra6714 17 сағат бұрын
Actually Sepharim Falls was a bloody good movie and for free on YT .
@mattrinck7503
@mattrinck7503 21 сағат бұрын
The ones that get me (in any genre, really) are those where the studio paid to have them made, could see that they were good, and then didn't bother to even do a minimum of marketing to support them.
@TrevorMoses312
@TrevorMoses312 Күн бұрын
Heaven's Gate was a remains a giant, cocaine fueled ego trip by an all too powerful director whom the execs at UA were too scared to say no to.
@filmsbydiek7316
@filmsbydiek7316 19 сағат бұрын
I hated Westerns as a kid, my dad would watch them and they seemed so boring and felt like they would never end. As an adult and filmmaker I've come to appreciate the genre and have dabbled in a few myself, they're an important part of filmmaking history. I particularly love Hostiles, I didn't realize it was that much of a bomb theatrically. The performances are stellar indeed. I'll have to check out Seraphim Falls which I hadn't heard of, that sounds like my kind of film. Thanks for the vid!
@RogueDragon05
@RogueDragon05 16 сағат бұрын
Seraphim Falls is a great morality play. Very much worth watching
@MrBrutal33
@MrBrutal33 11 сағат бұрын
The Alamo is a great film and much superior to John Wayne's strutting jingoist vanity project which also flopped on release - Heaven's Gate is a masterpiece of modern cinema that has been rightly been reappraised in the years since. Audiences just want to be spoonfed the same plot and CGI over and over so that they don't have to think - just look at the success of Avatar
@ThomasEichler-p2w
@ThomasEichler-p2w 20 сағат бұрын
The Alamo was good. Hostiles was great.
@welcometothemovies9157
@welcometothemovies9157 5 сағат бұрын
Legend of the lone ranger. They also had to dub the actors voice with James Keach. Also he's an unknown the director and producer should've reminded the actor that he's lucky to be there.
@davidhanna7625
@davidhanna7625 Күн бұрын
Heaven’s Gates problem was that it was way too long. Hostiles was very good.
@ktom5262
@ktom5262 10 сағат бұрын
Both Alamo and Hostiles are very good movies, especially Hostiles. Seraphim Falls is pretty good as well.
@RichardFay
@RichardFay Күн бұрын
"Paint Your Wagon" was a musical comedy set in a historic period that the audience knew nothing about, starring two actors who made their reputations playing killers... and who couldn't sing. The love interest couldn't sing either. Julie Newmar always shone, even in bad roles. "Hostiles" should have done better, but "wild, Wild West" was ridiculous and Salma Hayek was seriously under-utilized.
@queenslander954
@queenslander954 22 сағат бұрын
“There’s a Coach coming in “. 🤣. Marvin & Eastwood were brilliant.. I actually do talk to the trees .. They said , enough with ferking pruning fella
@slickar2752
@slickar2752 5 сағат бұрын
I liked Paint Your Wagon. I thought it was funny.
@JESL_Only_1
@JESL_Only_1 2 сағат бұрын
No need to be snide about a man's death.
@Rangersly
@Rangersly 7 сағат бұрын
This video opens up with a false statement: ''Hollywood loves a good western''. No it doesn't. When even a renowned actor or director wants to make a western it takes years to push the project forward. Often, people like Kevin Costner have to finance the projects themselves. Hollywood doesn't like a good western. Just look at the two best movies in this list, Seraphim Falls and Hostiles. They died at the box office even thought (contrary to the rest of the movies on this list) they were very good movies, Hollywood didn't believe in them and gave them no support at all. When Hollywood gets excited about westerns is when they can make it into a mega-production with tons of special effect (Cowboys & Aliens, 2013's Lone Ranger, Wid Wild West, Jonah Hex, and even 2016 Magnificient Seven with it's superhero-style cowboys and ridiculously big orgy of explosions at the end). The western setting is just an afterthought. Hollywood wants big stars, big budget, big explosions, big special effects. The story or setting is not that important.
@iammattc1
@iammattc1 14 сағат бұрын
Everyone forgets Jonah Hex, including you. Cost $45 million, made $11 million Josh Brolin, John Malkovich, Megan Fox, Michael Fassbender, Will Arnett, Michael Shannon. Still sucks. The original comic character is good enough to be an easy adaptation to the big screen - he's a ruthless bounty hunter and killer. Didn't need to go for a sci-fi nonsense plot.
@davidx6912
@davidx6912 18 сағат бұрын
I remember being in one of those focus groups for whatever oil company was sponsoring "Wild West." (A show I loved as a kid). I made no bones about how god-awful that movie was, and the side-hustles the company was pimping (like their SUNGLASSES) associated with the movie. I tried to watch it when it came out, but only made it about 10 minutes or so, and that was far too long. What a vile piece of puke of a film!
@McPh1741
@McPh1741 8 сағат бұрын
There's some good movies on this list. "The Alamo" was decent adn I would say ot was more accurate than John Wayne's movie, which I liked too. I was born in '78 and we had a VHS copy of "The Legend of the Loner Ranger". I watched it s lot as a kid and watching it as an adult, I still enjoy it. Christopher Lloyd was an awesome villain and the ranger ambush scene was brutal. We also had a copy of "MacKenna's Gold". I think that one would be a good candidate for a reboot. Lastly, "Hostiles" was a magnificent movie. Action packer? No, but it was a great story, had excellent perfromances and didn't try to go over the top. There are many other westerns that belong on this list, even ones tht were successful movies.
@pork123100
@pork123100 23 сағат бұрын
there are a few movies here that if watched on regular tv nowdays are really good and deserve a second look.😮
@lanebrady9810
@lanebrady9810 33 минут бұрын
2004 ALAMO was FANTASTIC. Watchability.
@leewarry8641
@leewarry8641 10 сағат бұрын
Paint your wagon was a great movie
@williammoore3790
@williammoore3790 2 сағат бұрын
Someday someone will make a good Lone Ranger movie
@Adiscretefirm
@Adiscretefirm 6 сағат бұрын
Remember when Alamo came out $140M was a lot of money to Disney
@christopherchadwick2659
@christopherchadwick2659 10 сағат бұрын
9:23 Hostiles is a fantastic film.
@kenneththompson8933
@kenneththompson8933 6 сағат бұрын
Watch The Directors Cut of Heavens Gate. A totally different film. A masterpiece. The cinema release wasn't what Cimino wanted.
@MrBuckeye63
@MrBuckeye63 18 сағат бұрын
I like everyone of these movies
@mikes5637
@mikes5637 10 сағат бұрын
Same. Except Paint Your Wagon.
@eddiemcgrath8536
@eddiemcgrath8536 23 сағат бұрын
HEAVENS GATE'S box office was so low because the studio and director pulled it from release
@aloyvelezc5243
@aloyvelezc5243 11 сағат бұрын
Hostiles is a very good movie
@TexasTuareg
@TexasTuareg 19 сағат бұрын
Can we just say the obvious. You can't have a black secret agent during this time period. And then all the other ridiculousness just piles on. Nobody involved with this film actually watched the original television show (maybe Kevin Kline, but he still missed the mark).
@brucekuehn4031
@brucekuehn4031 13 сағат бұрын
OK, I’ll throw in a couple thumbs up for Cowboys & Aliens as a well-done mix just like the title sounds. Maybe that was the problem - sounded like a joke. And I hope that Daniel Craig gets another chance to star in a Western! He was terrific in it! However, Hostiles never rang true for me. For a story that is supposed to cover a lot of physical territory, the locations were very limited. This is a West of imaginary geography. And Seraphim Falls? That was one of the biggest WTF? endings of all time.
@charlesfinnigan3904
@charlesfinnigan3904 8 сағат бұрын
Hmm, Paint your Wagon and Hostiles are some of my favorite movies. but then I watch Paint your Wagon for Lee Marvin, not Clint Eastwood.
@csjrogerson2377
@csjrogerson2377 7 сағат бұрын
The box-office fails from the 60's were not underrated. Having worked for a film producer, it takes 1 day to film 2 minutes of movie. The final battle at the Alamo may have lasted 20 minutes, but that has sod all to do with how long the scenes in the film are, nor how long it took to film them. Duh!! Eedjiots. Cowboys and aliens was just effing nonsense. Surprised it grossed %1. Hostiles was a good movie.
@James-r8s
@James-r8s 11 сағат бұрын
The lone ranger will always be Clayton Moore, y'all took away most of what was America.
@jeffmattes5446
@jeffmattes5446 Күн бұрын
Disney’s Alamo was hands down, 100% better than Wayne’s Alamo, in every way.
@denroy3
@denroy3 19 сағат бұрын
Nope
@iloveblue7920
@iloveblue7920 5 сағат бұрын
Why did cowboys & aliens cost so much? sometimes some movies just should not be made And do not forget Cuttroat Island, omg WHY? the lone ranger why???? very bad idea, likw who was running Disney at that time, shame on you.
@hobbyfarmer62
@hobbyfarmer62 6 сағат бұрын
A collection of mediocre movies with one or two gems like hostiles (which studio under advertise) bu most were just bad, like heavens gate which tucked. Depp's lone ranger proves big star, showing he has a strange side. And bad timing, poor scripts, actors who seem to be forgetting how to act.
@misterramon7447
@misterramon7447 22 сағат бұрын
Paint Your Wagon was a GREAT comedy film! The rest of these?...total DROSS.
@darrenkoglin3423
@darrenkoglin3423 23 сағат бұрын
Wild wild West is garbage Paint your wagon extremly underrated HOSTILES one of C Bale's best performances Seraphim Falls as good as The Grey
@iloveblue7920
@iloveblue7920 5 сағат бұрын
Your choices at the end did not lose much, so do not deserve to be here
@donniemoore2025
@donniemoore2025 4 сағат бұрын
I enjoyed Cowboys and Aliens. Will Smith is a joke.
@donjohnson6601
@donjohnson6601 21 сағат бұрын
Seraphim falls is actually quite a good film but the rest ,well typical Hollywood stereotype rubbish.
@allencampbell8322
@allencampbell8322 21 сағат бұрын
Will Smith miscast. Not up to the standard
16 сағат бұрын
Nah....Critics, fans, history got it right the first time, these are all pedestrian at best, underserving of the acclaim this video suggests.
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