10 Years of Amiga Gaming - 1991

[@Shabbyorange101]

What a monster of a video. Knocking it out of the park, audio levels are so good and clear, editing is great with the title cards. Went above and beyound with the time stamps. Well done ONVG.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thank you very much! :) I try to make them at least a tiny bit better each time. You could say that I learn the ropes along the way. I've already made a list of games for 1992 and they're gonna be crazy good. If not 1992 then perhaps 1993 will finally cross the 1 hour mark. Cause we're getting closer and closer with each video.

[@Shabbyorange101]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Most welcome. Yeah and it makes all this content even more impressive given it's a side thing from work. :D I'm looking forward to the next ones a lot. Recently found a gem i never knew of, which if you haven't seen it yet i'd suggest a quick glance at; "Alien Fish Finger".

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@Shabbyorange101 It looks really interesting, like a mixture of metroid with lemmings. I'm gonna take a closer look at it, thanks!

[@pilouuuu]

One of the most amazing things about the Amiga and the early 90's is the sheer creativity of developers and how they tried pushing the limits. Really a Golden Age for gaming in general.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

It was a great time indeed. I think we may romanticise it a bit too much, but creativity is not something devs were lacking back then. That's for sure.

[@daviamorim]

I like it that you show games that you hate but were still important for the system.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thanks! You wouldn't wanna watch those videos if they'd only feature games I really liked. And also, while it's impossible, I am trying at least to make those at least a little bit objective. :) Ps. I even covered PRO Soccer 2190 for Amiga, the worst monstrosity in existence. A title that would freeze the lava rivers in hell, and corrupt all angels in heaven if either exited. It's so bad in fact, that it makes ET for Atari 2600, Action 52 and Bible Tales for NES look like masterpieces and greatest achievements in gaming ever made. I get angry even thinking about this atrocity. Ugh! xD

[@Lucasrainford]

1991 was a great year for Amiga games, class times! Great vid

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thank you! And yeah, it was a great year! But the best is still to come. Or was still to come. :)

[@ArttuTheCat]

Excellent collection of the great Amiga games 😺👍. In fact, GODS is a brilliant platformer game, MOONSTONE is absolutely inspiring classic, HEIMDALL is nicely drawn viking game, EYE OF THE BEHOLDER is one of the best AD&D games, THE SECRET OF MONKEY ISLAND is a legendary classic game 😺👍, EXILE is one of my biggest favourite games, FIRST SAMURAI inspired me to draw my own furry comic arts 😺🐰🦊, P.P. HAMMER is challenging and perfect game, STREET ROD is a great car racing game, RISE OF THE DRAGON gave me some inspirations for drawing the furry comic arts 😺🐰🦊 - BLADE RUNNER style, TOKI is one of the best arcade conversions - which also reminds me a little bit of DONKEY KONG COUNTRY, TURRICAN II is absolutely one of the best Amiga games ever, TANX is an excellent tank shooting game, and SUPER CARS II is a legendary car racing game. Thank you 😺👍🕹️.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thank you for the inspiring comment as usual! :)

[@ArttuTheCat]

You're welcome, my fellow retrospective friend 🐱👍. AMIGA FOREVER 😺👍🕹️!!

[@takedeepshhh]

wow almost an hour! smashing vid mate! seems 91 was the year of the car racers on the miggy as all the 3 best racers released that year and none of them has been surpassed ever since.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

True, I can't think of any better racers on the Amiga. Well, maybe Road Rash would be equal to them in my eyes but I have a very soft spot for Road Rash as it was one of my first games on Ami.

[@TheFinalSound]

One the best games released in 1991 for the Amiga was Microprose Formula One Grand Prix by Geoff Crammond. One the best simulators out there and the game that started 3d fomula games. I still play the game with my kids and they love it. Your channel just got recommended and I'm really enjoying your videos, good work!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep, it was a good game. It *is* a good game. :) I'm glad you like it, there's a lot I have planned for the future, so hopefully more better videos will be coming soon.

[@nicholsliwilson]

What a list! So many absolute bangers in the first 6 minutes alone & it just keeps going. Dude, I thought I was the only one who didn’t like gods? It’s a great looking game but not much fun to play. Having said that after what you said about James Pond you’re dead to me. LOL! 😜 To let you in on a secret I’m not a big fan of Toki on the Amiga, oddly enough I played it most on the Atari Lynx. Secret of Monkey Island was an amazing game I have no problem going back too & to me at least it’s one of the most important games of all time, given it’s influence on games going forward. There are so many great games here that there are some I’ve never played like 4D boxing that I must check out. There are a bunch of games here that are graphically impressive given the hardware & a surprising number of 3D games that were fun & not just tech demos. Great video again, thanks.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thanks a bunch! I just don't get Gods, it's slow, there's not much interesting happening, just waves upon waves of baddies and some switches. But yeah, it looks freaking amazing. :) And yeah, I myself don't get why I don't like James Pond when everyone else seems to love it. There's nothing wrong mechanically or presentation-wise with it. And it's not really even the colours cause Superfrog is colourful too and I love it. Perhaps it's just one of those unexplained secrets of the Universe and I was never meant to like it. LOL :) The list of titles for '92 looks real good too. I'm in the process of writing scripts so far, should be done in around 2-3 days. II'll also start recording gameplay tomorrow. That probably will take another 2-3. I mean these things happen at the same time, just different time of the day, and at different pace but yeah. Then the voice overs. I'd say this all should be done in around 4 days from tomorrow. And then editing. That usually takes around a day when I'm making small lists or reviews but recently those history of gaming videos take over 2 days to put together easily. So... A week for the next one. :)

[@roberto1519]

​@@OldAndNewVideoGames I have some nostalgia for James Pond 2 on the Genesis, I liked how it has a Christmas atmosphere in the hub castle outside and its visuals, I'm amazed on how many ports this game has, ranging from 16-bit, PS1, PS2 and even NDS. Nostalgia aside though, the game has little to offer in terms of gameplay, it's just not satisfactory control-wise and the character itself isn't as appealing as other platformers from the era. People on the internet, KZbin and elsewhere need to accept that each person has their own opinions, some are objective arguments which people blinded by nostalgy will never accept, while others are only preferences. The internet needs more self-assured content and people with this approach, otherwise it will be only a service for blind fans. Just like the gaming industry became from mid 00's onwards.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

​@@roberto1519 Wise words! In the end we're all individuals and can (and do) have their own preferences.

[@crystalset]

excellent......very useful for looking for new games...

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thanks! I'm kinda toying with the idea for getting A500 mini some time end of this year, perhaps as a gift for myself for XMas. And then filling it up with all the bests in WHDload form. As a sort of ultimate modern Amiga machine that can be connected to all modern TVs and monitors.

[@crystalset]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames oh i definitely didn't regret it, and the quality of it is very nice, although they'll prob make the maxi version...

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@crystalset Well, I hope that the price of mini will go down a bit when maxi is released. I have some expenses now so that's why I wanna wait for the end of the year/price drop before I jump in. Especially that it's a luxury purchase for me, meaning I can play all these games either on my real A500 or on emulation, so I don't really need the a500 mini. I just want it for the convenience that it offers. :)

[@crystalset]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames very sensible...

[@CoolHandJames]

This is a great channel, buddy, keep up the good work, loving this series despite how old the titles are making me feel.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thanks a lot! :) And I'll tell you how I look at my age. Time is an artificial concept created by humans (us?) to describe change and in some cases wear, basing it on movement of Earth around the Sun and around its own orbit. So, our age is the amount of times Earth revolved around the Sun plus some smaller bits based on that second metric. And all since we came into existence until now. But if we lived on another planet, we might as well would have been 250 now or 700, or even better - 8. It's very relative. So, as long as I feel like I can do what I want, how I want, and don't feel like I'm gonna fall apart from being tired after doing so, I'm not old in a general sense of the word. And if I do more with my mind now than body, unlike I did when I was a kid, it's not because I can't, it's because I'm experienced enough to know that I don't always have to.

[@CoolHandJames]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames yeah that's true, but my knees hurt a lot more than they did 20 years ago

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@CoolHandJames LOL Yeah :)

[@HarmonixJourney]

Moonstone was completely amazing playing with four people. Miss those days.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Oh, it so was... I mean, but I never completed it back then. Only years later. And alone. When played with friends it was more about vs fighting for us than going for the winning.

[@HarmonixJourney]

We didn't manage to beat it either back in the day, but it wasn't for lack of trying. The last boss fight was so damn buggy, if you managed to even get it to load. XD

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@HarmonixJourney Oh, yeah, I remember some "copies" of the game having a bug freezeing it or some other Guru Meditation $hit...

[@HarmonixJourney]

Hehe. Yeah. And somehow everyone I knew happened to have the same "copy". Weird that.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@HarmonixJourney Yeah, funny how that worked... Must've been some kind of "freak coincidence" ;)

[@carylittleford8980]

I recall mention that SWIV may have also meant Silk Worm Is Vertical. It also had no next level loading delays as it loaded of floppy disk realtime, and was just one really long level which was rather cool.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yeah, there was quite a few theories about its naming. I don't think we'll ever lean there truth but it's fun to just ponder about it. :)

[@Yips1234]

Got the Steam code. It was River City Ransom: Underground. Btw, nice video as always ;)

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thanks a lot! :) I'm actually toying with the idea of placing a second code in the video. But not straight away but around a week later as a KZbin card. So that more than one person could benefit but that's something to conceptualise in the future as I'm not entirely sure if it would work.

[@Yips1234]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Sounds cool for all the newcomers on this channel.

[@SwedishCandyPirate]

What a great many games! A played most of them as a teen.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Same and I loved my Amiga to bits.

[@gumdeo]

We are now In the Amiga's peak years, one great game after another... All-time classics such as Monkey Island, Lemmings, Turrican II, F1GP, Another World, Lotus 2, Moonstone, Dyna Blaster, Mega lo Mania, Eye of the Beholder, Populous II, Rod-land, Super Cars II, SWIV, Hunter, Robocod, Toki, Alien Breed etc.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep, and 1992 looks equally as good! :)

[@avenger9508]

Perfect presentation dear friend. All the amiga diamonds 😍😍😍😍

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thank you! But I still believe that 1993 was THE BEST year for Amiga. :)

[@avenger9508]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames i bought my 1st amiga 500 in nov 1993.....

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@avenger9508 Oh, so you know all the best games! :)

[@avenger9508]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames yep and I have played the 90% You reviewed in all your excellent videos!!!! Keep up the good work....memories needed...Recently I started playing them again even the ones I missed...

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@avenger9508 Do you play on original hardware or via emulation?

[@PJBonoVox]

Great video dude. But how you missed out on Hunter is beyond me. It was a game changer.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

It was my first ever series, I was still figuring most things out, and not just a lot of them as I do now, so mistakes were made. Especially in the design department. For one, I didn't wanna cross a certain number of games per year, or video length. Which is just stupid as both these issues are easily solved by releasing more shorted 20-ish minute videos rather than those long ones that took weeks to put together. So yeah, the reason is me. But perhaps, in a far far future, I will remake the series. :)

[@PJBonoVox]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Yeah, I understand dude. I didn't actually see how old the video was. The reason I mention Hunter is that it's widely regarded as one of (if not THE) first open-world action adventures and often gets overlooked.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@PJBonoVox :)

[@williamwright9079]

OMG what a year!!!!!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yep! The next couple will be great too. :)

[@OperationPhantom]

Great list and very enjoyable to revisit. Hunter deserved a mention though, as it's a very ambitious and unique title for this year.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Try as you might, can't find and fit them all. Glad you like what was in there tough. :) 1991 was a good year, there's 2-3 more good ones after, and then, slowly, Amiga disappeared into the void. Btw. I am working now on a similar series to this but for PC DOS. First episode of "10 Years of DOS Gaming" covering 1988 should be out either end of this week or beginning of next.

[@OperationPhantom]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Fair enough! I'm sure you considered lots of others, it could easily have been two hours per year from this point on. Hunter is like an early attempt at an open world game where you could drive all kinds of vehicles and just mess about. Nice to hear your perspective on the games, some I've never heard of before but many bring back memories. DOS is an interesting parallel to Amiga, as it gets better and eventually eclipses Amiga but if you were there at the time it didn't always seem so "inevitable" of course... Good luck with that series!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@OperationPhantom Of course they didn't. They're easy to spot now, when we have the perspective of time and know the history and what was happening behind the scenes. Back then, believe me, I held on to Amiga way longer than I should've. But I don't regret a second of it. ;)

[@OperationPhantom]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Good to hear! The Amiga had a character of its own and was obviously created with a lot of heart. That kind of uniqueness of a system is something to remember fondly and arguably kind of missing from the PC's and most consoles these days.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@OperationPhantom I'm an avid fan of old and retro gaming and regualily play some of the more fun titles myself or with a friend who collects old systems. So, keep that in mind while reading what I've to say later on... ;) Despite my adoration for and passion about classic gaming I just love our modern gaming experiences. Their cinematic feeling, the stories they can tell through this mature, often very lifelike medium are something that was just not possible back then. At least not as convincingly as they can be told now. So, I will not agree, that the modern systems lack anything. To be clear, I'm not saying that they're better than the classics were. They're different and they cater to different gaming experiences. And hence the name of the channel. :)

[@lassebodilsen]

Pure epic list

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thanks! They were indeed pretty awesome games.

[@MrMeow-xl7pd]

Fun Fact about Mad Tv, Rainbow Arts got sued to oblivion because they used real movie titles. And i disagree, its a great game and still fun to play today.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

It is a fun fact. Thanks for bringing it up!

[@TeaAndFloppyDisks]

Great video and great games, as usual! :) It's interesting that Robin Hood is in an isometric view. I've never seen an adventure game like that. Isometric games, especially with decorations around the corners, are for some reason very interesting and mysterious for me. :) Escape from Colditz reminds me of Maniac Mansion. Do the different characters have specialised skills? The Monkey Island graphics are different on the Amiga than on Dos. Interesting. But the characters look a bit less funny? Pond, James Pond? XD

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Isometric games with decorations around them... SimCity 2000 was kinda like it. ;) But in reality, many of the late 8bit and early 16bit games used the view point. I mean, Hero Quest games, Populous, Indiana Jones and the Fate of the Atlantis (the bad one, not the point'n'clicker)... ;) Monkey Island had SOOOOOO much better sound and music on Amiga before the CD version on PC released. xD

[@TeaAndFloppyDisks]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames There you go, all great isometric games (maybe except the Indiana Jones one XD). They have a certain style that is very elegant. :) Amiga had the better music indeed. And often for almost every game. :) Also, I found what comes after the lift music and wanted to say thank you. I really appreciate it. :)

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@TeaAndFloppyDisks You're very welcome. :)

[@TeaAndFloppyDisks]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames :) And some bacon, for good measure: 🥓

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@TeaAndFloppyDisks Yay! :)

[@Trikipum]

funny. My punky friend used to come home and play rodlands for hours and hours while drinking wine and getting stonned.. what times dude.. games were anothjer thing back then.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Rodlands is genius in its simplicity. It's graphics + gameplay + fun factor. Nothing else was needed to play it for hours on end.

[@Alianger]

The Turrican games are not metroidvania, they are defined by their interconnected worlds and ability gating in a platformer context. Anyway, nice vid and I have some new games to check out. :)

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thanks! Glad you found something for yourself there. Next one's slowly shaping up to be a good one too.

[@DerDude1977]

1991 was a great year for the Amiga. Maybe 1990, 1991 and 1992 were the best ones,´when it comes to quality and quantity of games. Sure there were the first ports from VGA which weren't fun to play without a HD (which nearly nobody had in 1991) but at least those games like Rise Of The Dragon still looked good and weren't just downscaled without any work. (Like the terrible Amiga version of Space Quest 4). Excellent video. I only miss THE football manager game of 1991 (...but okay if you are not into it... "Bundesliga Manager Professional by the way it was called and I think The Manager in English...), maybe Hunter which was ahead of its time and in my opinion Popoulus 2 had great graphics.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

In my opinion 1993 was the best year for games on the Ami. I may be wrong but we can discuss it when we get to it. I loved The Manager. It was my second most favourite football manager game on Amiga. But english version was released in 1992, so you can still hope to see it. ;)

[@DerDude1977]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames I am looking forward to your next videos. 1994 and 1995 still had some quality games, but mostly if you had an Amiga 1200, a HD and some extra RAM. There was more and more trash then and most big delevopers left the Amiga. 1996 then only had two real gems in my opinion and maybe two or three good games. It was more or less over then. Still had some fun with the Aminet CD's until I first went to a PS1 and then to the PC.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@DerDude1977 Yep, mid and late 90's were a catching up game Amiga played with quickly rushing off towards future - PC and consoles. Sad but it is what it is. After that, there's just us left. And funny enough, with Amiga's future existence is like it is with Westworld (I know, odd comparison but...), as long as there's someone left remembering it, it will exist, even if only in those memories.

[@DerDude1977]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Yeah. Westworld Season 1 was great. I need to give the other seasons another try.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@DerDude1977 Don't even get me started on it. I can talk for hours about Westoworld. All the underlying themes, timelines, etc. And each season is completely different.

[@iwantagoodnameplease]

You need to tweak the voice:music volume ratio. Especially on HeroQuest! I could barely hear you.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thanks! I'll try to have it better normalized for the next video. :)

[@Planetdune]

Never seen Populous 2 look like that, which version is this?

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Footage's taken from @soralapio channel, there's a longer version there as I only need around a minute per game for those history videos here.

[@amigabang6157]

The DOS version has this full-screen graphics mode so presumably it's from that.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@amigabang6157 That's not a given as I rescale all my videos so that the gameplay's covering as much of the screen as possible.

[@amigabang6157]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames It's quite different between the two views so I'm pretty sure it's the MS-DOS version.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

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[@TNTITAN]

Mega Traveler. Play character creation for 100 hours. Play the main game for 15 minutes.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I actually usually spend like 4+ hours in games like Pathfinder playing with options creating my character before I even start playing. I play for much longer though but I do spend ungodly amounts of time playing with the creator.

[@TNTITAN]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames I really wish more RPGs these days had the old type of create a character mechanics. I also wish MegaTraveler used turned based combat. Why did they think real time would work?

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@TNTITAN Both Pathfinders, both Divinity Original Sin and Pillars of Eternity 2 have excellent, very in-depth and feature rich character creators. Coincidentally they're all amazing RPGs that can be played either in real time with active combat or in turn based mode and are much better in that second. At least in my opinion.

[@moskic153]

play multiplayer in pga tour in 2009 last time nice game

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I loved PGA on the consoles!

[@Trikipum]

Vroom is not one of the best.. it is the best..... The thing runs at an insane frame rate for its time. I remember watching a interview with the creator and he had to do all kinds of tricks to make it so smooth. That guy was a real pro. No other game felt like driving a car like vroom did. Even the system to change gears with genious for an age where 1 single button was typical...

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Interestingly enough, technically speaking, Amiga could use 2-button joysticks or even multiple ones too if, kinda like on CD32 or Sega Genesis. If only devs bothered to implement it in their games. But since one size fits all, and it's best to cater to majority and not minority, noone ever bothered.

[@youtubegrim5769]

Gods isn't a good game, yes.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Nope, it's not. It's a game, I give it that. Everything works in it. But it's just not much fun.