10 Years of Amiga Gaming - 1993

[@SebastianJung422]

Amiga Has The Best Games Ever Greetings From Germany

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Amiga sure was amazing! :) And welcome to my little community. :)

[@SebastianJung422]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Thank You

[@1907Aries]

You are right about Lemmings. It was a pain in the ass for 5 year old me back then

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yup :)

[@Shabbyorange101]

Loved it again. Editing was spot on and the audio quality difference wasn't that noticable for me. Well done for getting to 1993, you covered it so well and brought some seriously nice memories back, thanks. I agree though, 1993 was the peak of quality and innovation.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

You know, there are some upsides to technical issues. I got to learn how to deal with them if they ever happen again and how to (try to) fix them even if they do. :) Thanks for watching! 1994 is coming in a week and from the looks of it there will be some really awesome titles there too. Perhaps not as many but they will be quite good.

[@azrael1982PL]

The best year for Amiga games and the year that Amiga was DOOMed. ;)

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

LOL! True... But also the year that the Amiga programmers started chasing that FPS game that would put Amiga back on the pedestal.

[@gelzamangitzaman1482]

Yeah,its a sad year for amiga.

[@bitoxic]

Great overview of Amiga games around 1993! Looking forward to see you cover 1994 👍

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thanks! Working on it already, it will be a good one too. :)

[@danyoutube7491]

Many great games here that I enjoyed at the time, and quite a few that I didn't play but wish I had- Arabian Nights, Burntime, Genesia, Globdule, Goal!, Hired Guns, Lionheart (the still shot of it at the start of the video illustrate its brilliant array of colours and nicely drawn graphics), Perihelion, Simon the Sorceror, Wiz'n'Liz (lovely animation and satisfyingly fast movement and scrolling, I had never seen it in action before- those things were quite rare on Amiga platformers) and Yo! Joe!. A few of these games I hadn't heard of at the time, but mostly it was down to being a kid with a limited budget and who prioritised certain genres over others. Early on I was really into beat'em'ups to the degree that I'd play any old tosh, quite frankly, and later it was football games (with Sensi dominating my action football obsession to the neglect of some worthy titles). There are also a number of games in this video, such as Soccer Kid, Walker and Lost Vikings to name a few, that I enjoyed thoroughly on magazine cover disks but which for the reasons mentioned in my previous sentence I didn't buy the full versions of. I wish now, looking back, that I had diverged a bit more from my usual fare. Hired Guns is another prime example (and it puzzles me because I remember drooling over the screenshots and description in magazines, but for some reason didn't consider buying it!). Thankfully my narrow mindedness with buying games was alleviated by my brother's penchant for strategy games, so that I didn't miss out on greats like The Settlers, Frontier, Indiana Jones and Dune 2. 1993 was truly a year of some fantastic games on the Amiga.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

In all honesty in research for those history of games videos I too learned about few titles I've never played back in the day. Perhaps not so many but few nonetheless. If you'd like, you can still re-play those games even today on your PC. It's actually quite easy. I've a video on my channel explaining how to do that. And if you'll have any questions when you try, hit me up, and I'll try to help. :)

[@danyoutube7491]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Cheers, I'll give it a go. I tried emulation a few months back, but for some reason paying for Kickstart or whatever it was wouldn't work, it just froze.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@danyoutube7491 If it doesn't work for you still, you can always try the "google it" way...

[@danyoutube7491]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Googling is how I first found it :) But in any case, I've got it working now.

[@krzysztofpaszkiewicz1274]

I totally forgot about that Chaos Engine exists. I played it a lot with my cousin. Need to find it ASAP. Thank you!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Don't know how much of a help it'll be but if you're playing via emulation you can find it at: p l a n e t e m u . n e t

[@krzysztofpaszkiewicz1274]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Thanks!

[@rafanowacki2260]

In 1993 I sold my Amiga 500 and bought an Amiga 1200 and bought a 420mb hd. extra 4mb fast ram. and I had a Philips 14 color monitor, Those were the times and I remember it well - Greetings to all Amiga fans 👍👍👍👍🕹🕹🕹🕹🕹🕹👍👍👍👍

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Now that was hell of a machine! 6MB overall should be enough for WHDload games too. That however came years later.

[@rafanowacki2260]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Here you have something extra - Greetings from Poland😉😉🎵🎵🕹🕹 kzbin.info/www/bejne/opzbaKyKfZuEarc&ab_channel=The%2780sGuy

[@roberto1519]

I'm not an Amiga expert but I've been following it for some time, as I love classic computers, it was only not popular here in Brazil, at least, not as nearly as it was in Europe and personally, I never heard about it back then and if I did, I can't remember. Emulating it is quite fun but there are some things I think hold the platform back for some odd design decisions. First thing is the control scheme, the lack of buttons is specially noticeable on games that are present in consoles, Desert Strike, Road Rash and many more, games with 3 buttons as a standard would make a whole lot of difference, I mean, surely they would focus on keyboard and mouse for most games, but giving games the ability to natively be used with normal gamepads would be great, and no UP for jumping, except on fighting games. Another thing I noticed, some games either allow you to choose sound effects or background music, I believe it's the case for most earlier titles, but it's still interesting, as I find this machine to have a clean and pleasant sound overall, but choosing one or the other gives an impression of an unfinished project. The obvious here is that, much like any other computer systems from the era, they lack the Japanese touch, so most great games from the era, unfortunately never saw the light of day on this machine, except for ports, but those were handled by western devs and it's noticeable. Overall, I find the Amiga quite interesting, it almost feels like the Mega Drive and the SNES combined in the sense that it uses the same CPU family as SEGA's console, but it also feature high resolution for the time and when used properly, the colors surpass what the SNES could do, specially with more details, as the Super Nintendo has almost a Game Boyish native aspect ratio. As a side note, an interesting thing I noticed about Super Street Fighter II on both the Amiga and DOS versions, the gameplay is in widescreen, if played in the normal 4:3, the characters and other details gets squished, it's so strange but fun to play in full screen on modern displays.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

The thing is originally A500 (before the A500+/A600 were released) came with just a 0.5MB of RAM, which for the first couple of years was not enough to have both sound and music during gameplay. Quite quickly though most users realised that you really want to have a full 1MB of memory available and when the trap door loaded upgrade cards became more popular, most games not only allowed for both sound and music but also required 1MB to run. OCS/ECS (most wide-spread in A500/500+ and 600) couldn't do more than 32 colours when sprites and movable objects were on the screen. By design. That doesn't mean that some developers didn't found a way to go around it. Good example would be Universe, a point'n'click adventure that used 256 all at once with scaling sprites. But for the most of Amiga's lifetime 32 were the standard, some games mixed copper and could sorta get 64 in EHB mode with moving objects but both these and those that allowed for even more where singular cases. Most likely easy to count on both hands. 4096 colours on static screens however were no problem but that wasn't usable during gameplay though just for some load screens and such.

[@roberto1519]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Makes sense, developers made some games more colorful than the SNES at times. Good point on static images being more colorful due to it all being a static image.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@roberto1519 Yeah, 64 colour mode was EHB (Extra half bright) so 32 colours + another 32 shades of same colour. 64 in total but in reality it was 32 colours in two shades. Meaning they couldn't be *any* 64 colours. And 4096 colour mode was HAM (Hold and modify) and this could pretty much be any colours as long as they kept to certain rules, meaning at some times you had small graphical artifacts as changing from one colour to another could take 2 or 3 pixels horizontally.

[@roberto1519]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Interesting, in some ways it feels like an enhanced Mega Drive, there's a PAL exclusive F1 for the MD which is pretty impressive and a Kawasaki game using the same engine, maybe it was ported from the Amiga. With KZbin we learned a lot in the last years about obscure video games, such as the Sharp X68000, which is to me the rich cousin of the Mega Drive, it also uses the x68000 CPU but with expanded video and sound capabilities, though that was even more expensive than an Amiga, I believe.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@roberto1519 All three actually used the same CPU in their first versions. Well, MD used the same out throughout its whole lifespan but that's a console so it's hard to compare it to computers. That said X68000 was famous for its arcade conversions which were often near perfect. Still, all three machines are good in their own right.

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

Fantastic year. What you said about "Goal!" is true: it's more of a simulation and you get better by playing more and improving your skills ... that makes it a great game, and when you said "it's not for everyone", well that's how the best games are, they're never for everyone. Not everyone can enjoy Frontier but we all know it's a great game.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

True. I played Frontier to death... And still do to this day just in the latest form of Elite Dangerous. But before ED was released I used to dust off Frontier every 2-3 years and just spend a week or two just gringing in space. ;)

[@ArttuTheCat]

The best Amiga games, i would like to play again, are: - BRUTAL SPORTS SERIES FOOTBALL - CANNON FODDER - GOAL! - HIRED GUNS - LEMMINGS 2: THE TRIBES - THE LOST VIKINGS - SECOND SAMURAI - THE SETTLERS - SIMON THE SORCERER - STARDUST - WALKER - WIZ 'N LIZ Thank you 😺👍.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thank you too! :) Best year, amirite? ;)

[@ArttuTheCat]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Yeah, You're absolutely right 😸👍🕹️.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

You can actually still play them, you know. I mean even if you don't have an Amiga. You can emulate it. The video on how to do that easily is on my channel. So, if you're interested, have a look. It's really easy.

[@pnvgordinho]

Hired Guns is a lot of fun playing with 3 friends.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Wish I had someone to test this theory with :) Back in the 90's apart from me only one of my friends had it and he only played Mortal Kombat and didn't care much for other games. xD

[@pnvgordinho]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames At a friends house, one would use the mouse, another the keyboard and two with Quickshot Maverick one arcade joysticks. And 90% of the time we didnt "played the game", we used to fight each other like people do today with multiplayer games like Fortnite.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@pnvgordinho Serious? That actually sounds like fun! Wonder what would happen if anyone else thought of that then and made a 4-player vs game... Optimized for this kind of gameplay.

[@gumdeo]

What an amazing year, even better than I remembered. Some of the most important Amiga games ever... Cannon Fodder, Chaos Engine, Desert Strike, Dune II, Frontier, Hired Guns, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, Lemmings 2, Lionheart, Micro Machines, Settlers, Superfrog, Syndicate, Turrican 3, Walker... So, is 1993 the best year? Yes, probably. 1994 had some outstanding games, but fewer of them, as the Amiga began its decline.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yeah, that's what I predict too. Some real bangers in 1994 but quite a few less of them than in 1993. Well, we'll see in a week. ;)

[@williamwright9079]

Cheers for the video keep up the good work Thank you!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thank you too! Glad you like them.

[@franjogutierrez2621]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

It's an old one, but thanks for watching! :) I've many more series/videos on Amiga, C64, DOS and Windows, so if you like oldies, there's always something new here to watch. Also, these newer videos are of much higher quality. xD

[@mormakill]

6:53 I think is crazy football, version on brutal football for europa

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

That is correct. :)

[@blumcole]

That second samurai gameplay is pure pain xD Great game tho

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Which do you prefer - first or second?

[@blumcole]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames second. Finished it with a friend when I was a kid. But first samurai… too cryptic.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@blumcole :)

[@drakie7024]

it came from the desert was one of the coolest creepy games on the amiga

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

The sentence would stand correct even if you didn't add "on the amiga". :) It was an amazing game on all systems it came out on. But the Amiga port was the best looking, sounding and playing. No doubt about that. :)

[@eterenostalgia5088]

I'm Antonio from Italy, fantastic games for AMIGA platform, i have this games for my AMIGA 500 classic. But where is the great game "Battle Isle '93" ?

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thank you! You can find it at www . planetemu . net Obviously remove the spaces between pasting. :)

[@bloxyman22]

About simon the sorcerer... I can swear I had a demo that came on floppy disk(s) that actually had audio for the speech. Recall being dissapointed when this was not the case with the full game.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Could it be a demo-disk from a mag that was samples from a CD release?

[@bloxyman22]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Yeah it was for sure a coverdisk from a magazine.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@bloxyman22 So... A "disk-bait"? ;)

[@gavinadams4572]

I recently got perihelion on retroarch,its very 40k like,so i like.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

It's really good. But given it's (lack of) popularity back then, I kinda understand why we didn't have more games like it.

[@TeaAndFloppyDisks]

I think 1992 and 1993 are pretty close in terms of great games. :) With the exception of the mobile app, I've never played Lemmings beyond the first and the Holiday edition. And those were plenty tough. :D Your story about Qwak and not knowing you could fire is cute. :D And I'm sure we've all been there, overlooking some obvious mechanic in a game. Also, ducks! :D

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

They sure are, but for me, at least on the Amiga, 1993 was the best.

[@TeaAndFloppyDisks]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Well, you know the games on the Amiga better than me, so I concede to your opinion. :)

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@TeaAndFloppyDisks Well... My opinion is very personal and subjective. xD

[@TeaAndFloppyDisks]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames So it should be, as it's a personal opinion. :) But still an informed one, so I trust it to be quite accurate to reality.

[@mertcanduran9049]

I miss @ravencrest1985's KZbin channel, because he had The Age of Kings campaign videos

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Sorry, but it's gone. :/

[@mertcanduran9049]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Inform me when @ravencrest1985's KZbin channel is back

[@mertcanduran9049]

​@@OldAndNewVideoGames Has @ravencrest1985 changed his KZbin channel name?

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@mertcanduran9049 As far as I know the channel has been deleted.

[@AlexMenchi]

Lovely!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Thanks a lot!

[@nicholsliwilson]

I insist you do impressions in every video from now on. B17 Is unplayable on an un-modded Amiga, it was just too ambitious & the same goes for Frontier, which is why I played them mostly on PC. I don’t usually like games that don’t have a goal but Elite & Elite II let you live out a SiFi fantasy & that’s quite compelling. Indiana Jones & the fate of Atlantis is another I played on PC because my PC had a hard drive but was so good on the Amiga. Cannon Fodder is incredible! It was absolutely one of the best games on the Amiga. (although there was a surprisingly good port to the Game Boy Color.) Cool Spot was huge but the Amiga version was just a port of the Atari ST version, so definitely could have been better. Globdule is 1 to check out as I’ve never played it as is Gunship 2000, which is odd because it’s very much my thing & the same goes for Heartlight, Perihelion & Transarctica. Thanks for the recomendations. Lost vikings is a true classic that I’ve replayed on multiple platforms & so is Micro Machines. The Patrician is another game that feels like going to work in your gaming time but I appreciate that’s a me thing. You didn’t press fire playing Quak just to see what would happen? 😄 Simon the Sorcerer was so good & lead directly to the Discworld games, taking it full circle. Soccer Kid is so much more fun than it’s odd concept & goofy story would suggest. Stardust is too hard to be fun, which is a shame because I love a good Asteroids clone. Super Frog deserved to be bigger than it is & should have been a bigger franchise than it is. You did really well to rescue the voice audio, it’s noticeable but not a big deal & this was another great video, even if it did have to be a long one by necessity, thanks.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

I can't promise the impressions as they are God awful and just happen in the spur of the moment. Believe it or not but these are actually not pre-written. xD Oh, I played Frontier on my A500, I did... Or watched it, as it run so slow. ;) I suppose I was too immersed to just ignore it and even though it run like trash the idea of living in space was something I couldn't let go. And yeah, on PC it was an absolute pleasure to play. I initially wanted to use Cannon Fodder's intro at the beginning of this video, it's so iconic after all. But because of the lyrics I finally decided against it as these days you never really know what KZbin will flag you for... :/ Globdule was a discovery for me as I've not played it before and it was really fun and refreshing as a platformer. Controls take a little while to get used to but couple of minutes and you'll feel right at home. Perihelion is my personal failure, it is. It's everything I love about gaming, compelling story, sci-fi cyberpunk-ish setting, RPG and turn based tactical combat. And yet, chances are I won't find time to ever get back to it. Heartlight is a true gem. No, TRUE GEM! Honestly. It was never very popular but it's such a great puzzler. The video doesn't give it justice as it shows one of the first few levels but there's so much trial and error there, working those levels out. It's amazing! Honestly! And, no, I didn't press fire... I just figured it's one of those run around and grab things jumping over enemies platformer. And you know, I believe I've mentioned the tools and which I am among others. ;) And I feel you with Stardust, same here. It's fun but apart from maybe first two levels, I don't think I can beat any other. All that said, the question remains. Do you agree that 1993 was the best year for Amiga gaming or do you wanna wait till the series is done to base your decision in part at least on that? :)

[@nicholsliwilson]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames I’m waiting for the whole series to decide if it was the best year but 1993 was pretty epic to be sure. :)

[@LuaanTi]

Transarctica was actually heavily inspired by a different French series - The Ice Company (La Compagnie des glaces), rather than Snowpiercer (which first came out about two years after the first Ice Company novel - in fact, there were already 7 books or so in the series by then :D ). There are definitely some surface similarities between the settings, both being about an ice age world with trains - though Ice Company cares a lot more about making the setting believable, while Snowpiercer only really has it as background fluff to explain why one train is all that matters.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Sounds like a fun series. Is it still running? And/or purchasable outside of France?

[@LuaanTi]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames It ended in 1992, but it's still 62 books, so there's plenty of material - though these are serial books, so not exactly Dune in size :D Amazon has the first book in the series in English. They have others, but it seems only in French. Many of them were published at one time or another in lots of languages (we did have about 40 in Czech), but it's definitely not easy to get hold of.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@LuaanTi What's the series on Amazon called?

[@stephenchase2537]

1993 rules!!!!!!!

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Yeah, I stand by my assumption. We'll see next week when 1994 comes out but despite amazing arcade ports of 1994 I doubt that it could beat 1993 to the crown. :)

[@LevitatingCups]

Perhaps i've played stardust a bit too many times but its not that hard to finish the whole game with 1 or 0 deaths. Still a fun game tho.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Must be me then. xD But yeah, I really do suck at it, and always have really.

[@nickgovier]

Your Skidmarks footage is running in slow motion...

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Oh my days... It actually does look like it. It didn't when I was preparing the video for rendering on the previews... Hmm... I must've clicked something... Sorry!

[@pnvgordinho]

Body blows was not very good because they didnt want to copy the moves of street fighter. If I remember correctly, the moves were done by first pressing the button and then choose a direction. That was terrible. And one important thing they did wrong, they only used one button. They could have done a partnership with a joystick/joypad company and make a propor joystick / joypad to play not only body blows but every other Amiga game.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

Or... Or... Or they could've easily allow for use of keyboard. There's plenty of keys on that monstrosity and it would've made nearly any game more playable really.

[@pnvgordinho]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames Nah. Who likes to play beathemups with the keyboard?. A joystick/joypad made specifically for that would have changed how we played Amiga games. I dont remember but didnt the Amiga had keyboard clashes, or was it the pc?.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@pnvgordinho It's true that an arcade joystick would be best. But that would require extra investment. On both ends designers/manufacturers and players. And we all had keyboards.

[@pnvgordinho]

@@OldAndNewVideoGames But the idea was to use that arcade stick for all games, theirs and others. If some major company like Team 17 had done it, other companies would start making games to use more than one button. Back then I used to play with a joystick and all joysticks were rubbish. When I got my quickshot maverick one, it was amazing. Some days ago I was tempted to buy one on eBay but it was selling for 40 euros.

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

@@pnvgordinho Well, you're right. But it would've have to be done quite early in Amiga's life so that the devs and gamers would have time to adapt. On micros big and small, everyone was just using those old atari 2600 style joysticks...

[@youtubegrim5769]

now i understand, why you think 1993 was the best year. Yes. But after this peak it went downwards... ;-(

[@OldAndNewVideoGames]

True. It did. But next video, that'll be here tomorrow (on Patreon today later on) that covers 1994 has two missed games from 1993 too. And they additionally prove how great the 1993 was. 1994 is pretty darn good too, if I say so myself. Perhaps not as good but very solid. 1995 that I started picking games for is another case. Some good games there but there's much less titles altogether.