1000 Mile Thoughts I Dunlop Trailmax Raids On AND Off-Road!

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[@jezuaccc]

I don’t give a shit about the noise that’s why you have a loud exhaust!

[@TimsMotorcycleAdventures]

I had these on my r1200gsa. There is a lot to like in them. My problem with them was loud noise on the highway. It just kept getting louder and louder. One other thing was high speed stability. They seemed wobbly, maybe that was just on my bike.

[@spashley]

I've done 4,000 mile on a set of Trailmax Raids, probs 25% offroad, and I agree with everything you said. I get a resonant hum at ~40 and ~80, nothing in between. The "grabby" bit on white lines & cats eyes makes filtering a challenge now. As with most 50:50, wet tarmac should be respected but these are by far the best in this area. I'll be replacing them with another pair, with the expectation being ~7,000 miles.

[@SamVBikes]

Brilliant!! Yeah I was shocked to feel them being THAT good for 50/50 tyres. I was expecting to want to take them off quickly but I'd happily put another set on

[@jezuaccc]

Good job Mate 👍🏾

[@jezuaccc]

I’m ready to put those raids on my KTm as well

[@pl1678]

I can confirm the wobble on any lines or grooves in the road - it's really bad if you're not prepared for it. The noise at 70 km/h is also really annoying. The tire is otherwise doing very well, but I'm now looking for alternatives mainly because of the noise at 70 km/h.

[@SamVBikes]

Such a shame as those two things let the tyres down!

[@03D51607]

Arrived at the ABR on the Raids. Really cracking tyre! Great on & off road. Given that I seldom get off tarmac I went the other way & used the ABR deal to leave on a spanking new set of Meridans at £246 for the set!! Whilst I loved the Raids....it was an epic spin back to Ireland on the road biased tyres!

[@SamVBikes]

Haha yeah I agree. Having a set of full road tyres definitely make you feel like you've missed out

[@michaelmclarney1994]

Nice overview and comparison Sam, I didn't realise your bike's appetite for tyres was so veracious!

[@SamVBikes]

Thanks pal! Haha yeah it's probably a lot to do with my happy throttle hand but it doesn't like to preserve tyres

[@michaelmclarney1994]

@@SamVBikesit's had to resist using that beast 😂 I had an assessment with a chiropractor years ago and found I was putting 26lb more weight through my right foot when standing! I did ask if he could give me a formal letter to this affect so I could use it if I got caught speeding! Strangely, he declined 😂

[@jezuaccc]

Awesome video and exhaust

[@SamVBikes]

Haha thank you!

[@jezuaccc]

Thanks for responding so quick your an awesome guy !!im gonna put those on my 1190adv KTM

[@SamVBikes]

Far more interesting talking about bikes than doing work haha!

[@thedutchktm]

I absolutely love these tires!! I did 10k (km) on them… and abused them fairly! The rear can be replaced if i want to go offroad, the front still looks new😅 i will buy another set with the new tire change! This tire is a beast in the rain to

[@SamVBikes]

They are SO good arent they?! I would have thought they wouldnt take the abuse but they definitely handle it well

[@laurensvansmeerdijk1337]

@@SamVBikesi love them!! I feel like i work for Dunlop when i try to sell those tires to everyone that asks😂😂😂😂

[@MichaelPsyrras]

I absolutely agree about the 2nd negative you mention on 9:44 of the video. May be even more on my bike (T7) that uses slimer tires than your KTM. In all other aspects it's a great tire for my bike and the way I use it. Very nice review!

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! It's not too bad once you know to look out for it and avoid it

[@MichaelPsyrras]

@@SamVBikes yes in deed! Also if you know to wait for it, when it is to happen, and don't think that there is something else going on!

[@fredensminde]

Thanks for sharing👍 I recently got the Meridians on mine. I don´t do heavy off road but a bumpy gravel road now and then. Really happy withe them in every condition. Road grip, wet or dry, is amazing. They are slightly noisy in fast turns. But that doesn´t bother me ( i am use to GS fork tunnel tire noise )

[@SamVBikes]

Nice!! I've not tried the Meridians yet but heard good things!

[@oliverleifadams2003]

Great vid. Love that road (B4507), and also Chain Hill B4494 south from Wantage. 👏🏽😎

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! haha yeah really enjoying some of the roads around here

[@alex.shenanigans]

I loved having the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR on my 2018 SAS. They were chewing gum grippy, wet or dry, and rapidly warmed up. Terrible lifespan, tho. They also had the hum and vibration on motorways, as you described. But to this day, they are the only set of 50/50 that I know have the speed rating for these bikes.

[@SamVBikes]

Yeah the STR's are great things on the road although I found them to be pretty average off road. Weren't much better than the Anakee Adventure 80/20's off road surprisingly so I couldn't bring myself to spend the money on them again when they only lasted 2k miles when I had them

[@backcountry4life]

Nice review. Will you be posting one with more review of more off-road handling because I think that’s what I’m most interested in.

[@SamVBikes]

I'll have to get another set because I enjoyed them too much on the road and now they are toasted haha

[@RoyallVisuals]

Got a set of these on my Tiger 1200 Really Pro, been really happy with them. Trying to find the limit on road, still looking for it. I ride with a bunch of mates that have got 100% road tyres, keeping up with them is a struggle on the fast twisty stuff, as you'd expect. But get onto more rough roads and you catch them again. They love to spin the rear wheel, which makes the rides fun.

[@SamVBikes]

Haha yeah that sounds familiar! You can definitely push them hard but coming into that corner hot makes you worry a bit!

[@pappaclutch3266]

How do these do compared to the Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ Dakars?

[@SamVBikes]

I haven't used those so I could tell you. Since dealing with the Mitas tyres that come on this bike stock, I never want to see a Mitas on there haha

[@eriklindhardsenact7596]

Yes sam I got a set of the dunlop trailmax raids they do look the biz and great 50/50 tyre like to see how much mileage I will get out of them. When I'm going about 90/95mph I feel they do jump around especially on the front end.

[@SamVBikes]

How much mileage is going to be a big question! If they get 4k miles I'd be very shocked

[@JaySalvoUK]

Ey'up Sam, I'm not suggesting you go out intending to find some but have you come across any patches of gravel on a corner and what's been the reaction? More and more as our roads disintegrate it ends up as gravel on the twisties. I was torn between my second set of Mutants and these but the Mutants have been exceptional and getting 6.5K out of them. Ta Jay

[@SamVBikes]

Haha I tend to avoid gravel nowadays! Although they have been pretty solid in all corners. You do get the little skip in the rear occasionally but for the most part, they are solid. The Mutants are definitely a more road focused tyre so if you're two up, I'd probably stick to those

[@MRGS48]

Just watched this recommended video of yours and boy was I NOT disappointed… I have been curious about these tires since they’ve been introduced. I knew a KTM 1290 with all that crazy power AND weight would be the best comparison for longevity in a sense. Now I may have to put em on my GSA Trophy and tear the Arizonas desert roads!!! Cheers from balmy otherwise Arizona at 45C🤣

[@SamVBikes]

Haha thank you! Not sure how long they would last in 45C!! Start melting into the road surface

[@Eds_PanAm]

when my tires wear out on my 701, i'm thinking of getting a set for it, as for the pan am, its getting more road use, so maybe trailmax missions? unsure yet

[@SamVBikes]

I'd head for a more road focused tyre if you're not worried about using it off road. These are surprisingly good all over though

[@Skuffy1969]

Can you please share the tyre pressures you utilised? Dunlop recommends 38/38 PSI.

[@SamVBikes]

I run 35/42 which is what the bike manufacturer recommends for my bike/wheels. I ran them much lower off road

[@Skuffy1969]

@@SamVBikes Thank you for the prompt response. I have had these tyres for approx the same period of time and have probably been riding 50% dirt/sand and 50% road. My personal feedback is as follows (on a Pan America special): Dirt/gravel - extremely satisfying as compared to the Anakee Adventure. Quite tractable and compliant with directional inputs through the body Sand/rocks - as with most tyres, very difficult to have a tyre that manages sand well. But, they behaved as expected and did not find wanting anything more from them Road - I am very agressive on the road and drag pegs on the big girl on Anakee Adventure (good tyre for the street and gravel). These, as you pointed out, behave almost like a true nobby on the road. Directional changes require significant input and they feel quite loose at both ends. However, dial back to say 70% and they are managable. My biggest issue, after a 25km spirited run, the tyres showed more damage than 1,000km on the dirt

[@simonhousam1989]

What’s the make of mirrors? Great videos top man

[@SamVBikes]

They are MotoGadget M.View Flights. Expensive but very nice!

[@PureEvolution]

great video i am looking to get these on my Tiger1200 not far off the power so good to know they can handle it so i guess they will be my next tyre from the stock Karoo

[@SamVBikes]

They should do well on the tiger I reckon! Also quite a weighty bike with grunt so I'd suspect you'll find them similar to how I do

[@Flassie81]

Great review.

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you

[@1compaqedr8]

Are those tires good for top speed? 150mph? Looking for a more dirt capable tire than Pirelli Rally STR which has same 150mph speed rating. -1190adv-s

[@ObanHighlander]

Any idea how these compare on wet tarmac compared to the Mitas E0-7+ ? I've been running the Mitas for over a year now and for wet tarmac I wouldn't want a tire that gives less confidence on wet roads, so basically I'm just trying to find out if they have less, around the same or better grip than the Mitas.

[@SamVBikes]

I've never run the e07+ so don't really have a way of comparing properly. I've not had any issues with these in the wet though

[@flagkennyrider]

I'm considering these tires for both my 1290 and 890. I also still need to get some spoked wheels for my 1290. Which ones did you get? I've heard the Alpinas are good.

[@SamVBikes]

Mine are the Powerparts heavy duty wheels which are decent. The only thing I don't like about them is the seal in the middle to make them tubeless. Very very easy to ruin the seal when changing tyres if you do it yourself with tyre irons

[@jezuaccc]

I do 40 40 on the anakee

[@stevesteve1965.]

Sam, I've looked at a lot of reviews on this tyre and none have said how hard/stiff the sidewalls are compared to the Heidenau K60 (which I currently run) or my other option the Mitas 07+ , both of which are a 'stiff' tyres and for me much more puncture resistant than some "off road looking" tyres ..I mostly ride on road but find the K60 very good in all weather's and also seem resistant to urban type punctures. So are these Dunlops going to be as strong as the K60 .

[@SamVBikes]

I haven't tried the K60's so I couldn't comment on them. I ride into London regularly where there are a lot of nails and glass etc in the middle of the road which I filter on, and I've had no issues as yet. The sidewalls didn't all the bike to move around off road which is good

[@TomásLongo-h3v]

1290r 2018 owner here, BEST TIRES EVER imho. both on and offroad (I've done my fair share of offroading on these tires in all kinds of terrain). Sand is a bitch, but it is a bitch with any kind of tire.

[@SamVBikes]

Haha yeah sand is a bitch on anything besides a paddle tyre

[@simonhousam1989]

Hi Sam I’m picking up my new 1290 SAS in a couple of weeks I’ve got the wire spoked wheels fitted and was going to fit TKC80’s which I’ve had on several bikes including BMW GS’s and they lasted about 2000 miles. How long did they last on your 1290? And how long do you think the Dunlops will last? The other tyre I was considering is the Motoz Rallz. It would be nice to know your thoughts.

[@SamVBikes]

Congratulations! My TKC80s lasted 1300 miles on the rear tyre haha. Not sure on the Dunlops yet, but they are looking good for 1000 miles so I'd like to think 3k-4k miles

[@simonhousam1989]

@@SamVBikes I’ve ordered a set of Motoz Rallz they have good reviews so I’ll see what they are like.

[@droptuned83]

Tony would speak highly of them , hes sponsored by Dunlop!

[@SamVBikes]

Haha very true! He's been honest with me before about other things that aren't worth buying though so I still take his word

[@andrewharrop7932]

Good price 👍 pity camera keeps going blurry 😅😅🏍👍🏍👍

[@SamVBikes]

Yeah these bloody cameras haha

[@nomading_in]

Didn't see the £275 fitted deal at ABR...probably would have done that!

[@SamVBikes]

Some of the other tyres were even cheaper which was crazy

[@nomading_in]

@@SamVBikes oof, regrets

[@apache4582]

Sam, You may have something explaining this but I am too lazy to look for it. What settings do you have in Rally?...(Edit) nvm, I just remember that the MTC setting is on the left in Rally. That tells you how much I ride in Rally. Idk. May be your favorite settings in the description? From Mississippi. Thank you for your time and videos. Oh, I really love the Trailmax Missions, but HEAVY AF. I found a bit of energy and looked it up and, behold I found something. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5mqc5iAnN2ins0

[@SamVBikes]

Haha enjoyed the rollercoaster of questions and answers in this! Rally mode for me allows me to set the bike up how I like it then leave it like that. I do it on all of the KTM branded or sub-branded bikes. Makes the bike a completely different experience to ride

[@mthbmk]

Too loud on the freeway, great off road. Lasted 6,000 km

[@Irresponsibleful]

Why I find everyone who drives at 1st rally setting on tarmac - suspicious. It is totally unnecessary. 4th setting never limits anything you can do on tarmac. Means people don't understand what they're using. 6th setting is barely limiting on tarmac, still allows decent wheelies and skids. 7th setting is where the limiting is impacting skids and wheelies.

[@SamVBikes]

Not sure why it's suspicious. I like to ride the bike as raw as possible without giving up the full safety net. Having it on 1 has saved me on extreme slides when the rear wheel has gone too far to save for my skill. I've done 44,000 miles testing different settings and that's how I like to ride it

[@Irresponsibleful]

@@SamVBikes Were those slides on tarmac ? I am just curious. I've seen people crashing with 1 on tarmac, that's why it doesn't seem the greatest idea. Below 4 it turns off a lot of the safeties.

[@SamVBikes]

No all off road, it's never slid on tarmac. The only time I've come off was thick gravel where the front end washed out so no amount of traction control would have saved it