101 - Japan is Getting Hungry, Barbarossa is Confused - WW2 - August 1, 1941

Japan needs resources for its seemingly endless war in China, but where to look for them? And who might have a problem with it? Meanwhile in the Soviet Union, Hitler's forces have been diverted from the Moscow Road, and are on the move in the north and the south.
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[@WorldWarTwo]

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[@NormanMStewart]

Hello, TimeGhost crew. Any update on Dropbox? 'Cause I'm desperate for sending photos for you guys.

[@goneham4015]

Love that KZbin deletes your comments, but it doesn’t auto delete some of the hateful ones or spam.

[@TrueChell]

@@goneham4015 *Artificial* intelligence.

[@remenir97]

When will you guys talk about the Collaborators of the occupied countries like in the Netherlands, Belgium, France and others in their roles in everyday life?

[@toastytoast9800]

Bot sherrf here

[@CH-ek2bm]

So, this war has been raging for as many weeks as there are dalmatians.

[@WorldWarTwo]

B e s t comment today!

[@12pacon]

Can't wait for it to reach the number of spartans ... if it ever last that long, of course. I mean, it would be utter madness.

[@nozecone]

Well spotted, sir!

[@pav1367]

Greetings from a Dalmatian! (Dalmatia, Croatia)

[@nozecone]

@@pav1367 Okay, we've got ONE Dalmation - a hundred more and we'll be there ... !

[@Valdagast]

So they have already destroyed twice as many tanks as they thought the Soviet had? That must raise some eyebrows.

[@MrMiniTako]

Nah fam don't be silly! The SU will collapse like the house of cards it is, I am sure they will surrender by the end of august

[@HugostarGames]

@@MrMiniTako so we are home by christmas...no wait, wrong war...

[@fffgrehn]

There is actually a live recording of Hitler speaking to the Commander of the Finnish forces, where he spoke about his surprise, and that he would indeed have been scared to attack them had he known that they had that many tanks. The recordings are somewhere on KZbin with subtitles.

[@pedrolopez8057]

@@fffgrehn Mark Felton did the youtube video. At about 2:34 he talks about it. Warning, annoying and boring music in the intro. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3O8fX13idR1gK8

[@johan8969]

@@pedrolopez8057 Not sure why that Felton video isnt available to me, here is is original recording of Hitler and Mannerheim kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ21aqeZpbCNm8U

[@speedydb55]

Fuhrer Directive: "All Forces, Do NOT continue the advance to Moscow!" Fuhrer Directive Supplemental: "This means YOU, Guderian!"

[@Masada1911]

*sad Guderian noises*

[@simon4781]

@@Masada1911 *Wütende Guderian Geräusche*

[@Nothing-1w3]

Guderian: *awwww*

[@bucherbuddy2237]

Guderian: Dude!... uncool

[@JenniferinIllinois]

Guderian: Awww, you never let me have any fun.

[@DahvPlays]

If Budenny, Hotzendorf and Cadorna have taught us anything, it's that the more fabulous a commander's moustache, the worse they are at actually commanding

[@Lttlemoi]

Von Mackensens's is quite impressive though, both his 'stache and military achievements.

[@pavlenikic9712]

Well he did ooookayish later at caucasus at least..

[@dragonstormdipro1013]

Not WW2, but Sam Manekshaw had a pretty good Mustache.

[@enternamehere2222]

Budyonny used to be good. Like he was a fine cavalry officer. It's just that cavalry wasn't a thing anymore. If he was a commander in 1900 he'd be an excellent cavalry officer.

[@nozecone]

The thing is, with a moustache like that, you see the whole world in relation to your moustache, which can be a fatal, if understandable limitation. For instance, you'll be much more concerned about whether your moustache can withstand enemy encirclement than whether your army can - although a moustache like that can withstand anything, of course, so it can inspire a dangerous over-confidence .......

[@Rendell001]

Every time Reinhard Heydrich appears you know things are about to get worse...

[@dr.barrycohn5461]

And, someone better not slow up around that curve...

[@lauzagneandloopnaai4744]

Still can't wait for the Ecuadorian/Peruvian War mini series....! :D

[@howardbrandon11]

He knows his audience too well.

[@MrMiniTako]

Mini series? They should launch a Ecuadorian/Peruvian War in real time channel

[@Masada1911]

You and me both

[@rizky_alf45]

Agree with that 👍

[@HugostarGames]

THOSE PERUVIAN WARMONGER!

[@ajeetsmann]

Even Budenny's magnificent mustache could not save his armies from being encircled

[@peterg76yt]

If Budyonny can't save his armies despite that mustache, he's obviously not even trying.

[@Imman1s]

If a general has the time to groom that kind of mustache in the middle of a war that is killing hundreds of thousands of his subordinates, he is ** incompetent and has his priorities wrong.

[@pez4]

If the Great War taught us anything, is that moustaches lead to military failure /s

[@podemosurss8316]

@@pez4 Unless your name is Mackensen...

[@bendover6272]

@Maria Ninguém Hotzendorf was one of the best generals of WW1

[@skamazbg5675]

1st of August: Hitler asks Tsar Boris the third to send 5 Bulgarian divisions to the eastern front. Then Tsar Boris tells him: ,,if I send my soldiers to Russia they will join the Red army along with the battle musicians". Too bad it wasn't mentioned.

[@flolow6804]

Bulgaria was a german ally in great war and an enemy of russia. They also gained alot out of german support for them. Why would they be loyal to the russians ?

[@mikerodrigues9822]

Bulgaria didn't declare war on the Soviet Union nor send any soldiers. As the Tsar stated, the slavic roots were strong between those countries. Bulgaria just joined against Greece and Yugoslavia, with incredible brutality against the civilians.

[@skamazbg5675]

@@mikerodrigues9822 nope there wasn't incredible brutality against Greece nor Yugoslavia but you are right about the rest.

[@skamazbg5675]

@@juanpaz5124 no they didn't declare war on the Soviets and even keep diplomatic relations with them.

[@skamazbg5675]

@@flolow6804 Because the Russians liberated us in 1878 and since then to the present they are seane as friendly and good people.

[@oneofmanyjames-es1643]

Welcome to this combined WW2 documentary and men's fashion show. Today's tie is a flamboyant piece that evokes a stained glass window and matches the back of Indy's waistcoat, whilst panzer divisions are being moved to reinforce flagging advances in the north and south of the Soviet Union.

[@thebog11]

We already have someone who reviews ties, don't try to steal his thunder

[@CarrotConsumer]

@@msk70kr He was joking mate.

[@pnutz_2]

"we'll let 40,000 troops in" *40,000 troops land* we're bringing another 80,000 troops too "that wasn't part of the deal" yes, but now we have 40,000 troops in your territory as a bargaining chip

[@nygothuey6607]

"I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it further." (Darth Vader)

[@Fruzhin5483]

@@nygothuey6607 ah yes, the negotiator

[@jokuvaan5175]

@@nygothuey6607 This deal is getting worse all the time

[@Saeronor]

@@jokuvaan5175 Breaking News: Philippe "Merry" Petain spotted riding a unicycle.

[@pedrolopez8057]

They did bring in 40k troops. 3 times.

[@gianniverschueren870]

Oh man, this tie should do well when it goes on sale. Interesting colourway + patterning, and matching with the rest of the outfit as well? 4.5/5

[@howardbrandon11]

I love this outfit.

[@Aakkosti]

When all the ties have been auctioned, someone needs to find out whether your scores correlate with the size of the winning bid. For science!

[@gianniverschueren870]

@@Aakkosti If I had the time... I genuinely started rating the ties because they mentioned the auctions were happening. I would love to know if there's correlation

[@DoraFauszt]

Oooh that is a really great outfit and such an interesting tie! I would also say 4.5/5

[@yorick6035]

You are the main reason I look at the comments, love the reviews.

[@gunman47]

1:33 That sits rather uncomfortably close to the European and American colonies of the Far East, within striking reach of land based Japanese warplanes possibly. No worries though, I'm sure my country Singapore will still be able to defend itself even with this happening. Surely the Naval Base in Singapore will be a deterrent against Japanese appetite for Malayan rubber and the oil of the Dutch East Indies?

[@histoky2010]

Oh boy. You in for a surprise.

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

Fortress Singapore is more than capable of fighting off a Japanese attack, the Japanese soldier just can’t match the British soldiers fighting ability, the average Japanese soldier is short so he can’t carry much gear and they are all blind and wear glasses so they can’t shoot or fight in the rain.

[@pedrolopez8057]

@@MikeJones-qn1gz With shorter legs they can't march as far or as fast.

[@pedrolopez8057]

I'm sure a quick show of force by the British Navy will send them packing. And McArthur is no fool. You won't catch him napping.

[@thecleitom9497]

@@MikeJones-qn1gz I could think this is racist

[@CivilWarWeekByWeek]

Indy’s phone be bill must be out of this world

[@KaptenN]

You thought international calls were expensive? Imagine the bill for interchronoic calls!

[@TheCimbrianBull]

His phone bill is nothing compared to the gas bill Hitler receives in a few years time.

[@dr.barrycohn5461]

Or, at least across a few time zones.

[@Balthazare69]

I first read "Japan is Getting Hungary" :-D

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

Japan is thirsty anime girl

[@fatehyabali]

You are wrong dear, Germany is getting Hungary😠

[@bezahltersystemtroll5055]

thats Pan-Turanism 😳

[@TheCimbrianBull]

For dinner I'm getting Turkey! 🦃🇹🇷

[@creatoruser736]

What could Guderian have thought would happen when he reached Moscow like he wanted to? He had already lost 2/3 of his tanks and they had outrun their infantry support. If he just sped to Moscow as quickly as possible, what then? His understrength and unsupported tanks would take the capital of the Soviet Union? He and a lot of others don't seem to understand the difference between reaching an objective and actually taking it.

[@ctesiphon9135]

I assume he still believed in the "kick the doors" thing and still underestimated Soviet ability to regroup. He probably believed that Germans were one encirclement away from clearing the whole way to Moscow, which was the most important logistical hub in the whole Soviet Union, losing of which would probably force Russians to give up the Leningrad front.

[@DiggingForFacts]

The whole nadir of Germany's bewegungskrieg was to punch through as far as possible and for the enemy to their knees by disrupting communications and supply lines. Barbarossa was the first operation where fascism met its ideological equal that demanded defense until the last man, no matter how desperate. I don't think they had any serious plans of surrounding Moscow with a handful of panzers, but they were still hoping beyond hope that the next push would be the one to break Soviet morale and cause enough panic for the front to collapse. I still think that the German high command for the most part had no actual clue of just why things had gone off the way they did during the Westfeldzug. Indy's comments about Hitler are very pertinent to this, because they show just how much his bipolar nature affected his sense of judgement. People like Hoth and Guderian probably knew that the plan was fucked from jump street, but they had to try something - anything - to try and force a decisive moment in a plan that had been unraveling at the seams since the first week of the campaign.

[@espeon91]

He and a lot of German High Command were viewing the war from a purely tactical sense focusing on encirclements whereas Hitler was focusing on the strategic picture which was getting food from Ukraine, oil from Caucuses, safeguarding the flanks of Army Group Center, etc. There was no way Guderian would have made it to Moscow especially because Stalin got wrong-footed by Hitler's change of plans.

[@gerardsotxoa]

The Germans belived that the USSR will invade the whole Europe, so taking Moscow was the option for disarray the soviet union. After taking Moscow they would be able to attack the industrial complexs of Ekaterimburg and beyond the ural Mountains. Secondly, the information that canaris and the traitors Gave them was totally missleading plus they were totally surprised to find the siberian divisions at the gates of Moscow in October, accordign to Skorzeny it made no sense that Stalin were so sure of a non agression from Japan in as early as August, to' the japaneses informed to Germany that the Vladivostok division and others were moving back from the border but seemgly Canaris got lost that info. The Germans knew that time will only favor the soviet factories and a Moscow without the siberian divisions seemed like a viable prey.

[@wladanrs]

With all that logic during operation Barbarossa I am suprised that they didn't attack UK, they could send soldiers to swim across the Channel, they would have the same chance like with "I am drive on Moscow with 300 tanks and hardly battered divisions, with open flanks, without infantry support, without logistics, and with soviets all over around me", if he did that, he would probably ended up surrounded and destroyed.

[@justinhuang5183]

Indy is probably a double agent telephone operator. 4/5 Intro

[@ArtrexisLives]

Indy: "...but we're leaving you behind!" Soviet Soldier: "Wait, just me?" Indy: "Your whole crew" Soldier: "All of us?" Indy: "Yeah all of 'em" Soldier: "Okay, but what should we do?" Indy: "'What should you do?' Ummm, well, don't get captured! *chuckles* And ummm, just uhh, just smash stuff! Just destroy stuff; just break all the stuff you can!" Soldier: "...that's it?" Indy: "Yeah and don't get captured!" Soldier: "But that seems really vague-" Indy: "Yeah alright cool." Soldier: "But Comra-" Indy: "Alright good luck!" *hangs up* Soldier: "сука блять"

[@AndreLuis-gw5ox]

@Fender Player be careful to not cut yourself with all that edge, boy

[@shadout]

In many ways it made sense. Soviet intelligence behind the enemy lines is essentially non-existent, and coordinated efforts are impossible. So vague orders of sabotage and intelligence gathering and leaving it up to the crew to determine the actual target of opportunities to hamper the German advance is the best option available. Still, it would be a shock to a bunch of men used to taking orders, even stupid ones, to be suddenly told to just work it out themselves.

[@chrislosd162]

@Fender Player bit much there

[@Green-tf8uw]

@Fender Player If they were nazis instead of commies you would be saying the same, right?

[@kemarisite]

What's that last line in Cyrillic, "borshe moy"?

[@oisnowy5368]

Yes. Start with ~1000 tanks. Run it down to ~250. Lose 3/4th for 2/3rd of the way and claim that once the remaining 1/3rd of the way is complete they can occupy Moscow with any remaining tanks. If that doesn't sound like a recipe for success, I've lost my touch of sarcasm.

[@wladanrs]

And all that without infantry support, problems with logistic, bunch of soviets behind, and open flanks, weren't they brilliant :-)

[@Saeronor]

But you don't get it, Red Army is gone, as is (mostly) Second Red Army (that shouldn't have existed anyway). So, what's there to stop us from taking Moscow? Third Red Army? Shirley, you jest.

[@Raskolnikov70]

When the German propaganda folks decided to stop publishing full-sized maps of the USSR because it might demoralize the public, they must have applied the same order to the OKH. Maybe they didn't realize there was anything past the Urals? Lol....

[@dpeasehead]

When you look at the details of this campaign only two months into it, you are not surprised that the Germans lost WWII, just by how long it actually took them to do so.

[@markroberts9577]

With this series you really do find out how cold-blooded this war really was and that just how little life actually was valued

[@michaelbergen269]

Well, here I am... started with Sabaton History, binged the Great War, and finally caught up in 1941 with more knowledge about these events than I could have ever imagined. A big thank you to Indy, Spartacus, and everyone who's worked so hard to tell the story of the past the way it was! Looking forward to what may... or may not... happen in December. (And of course, thank you for adding the word Hotzendorfed to my vocabulary!)

[@ladyzapzap9514]

That’s how I found this channel too.

[@howardbrandon11]

Timestamps: 1:22 Action in the Pacific & Far East 3:56 Battle of the Atlantic for July 4:39 Barbarossa - Army Group North (Plus the Fins) This Week 5:31 Barbarossa - Army Group Center This Week, feat. Orders from Hitler 10:45 Barbarossa - Army Group South This Week 12:43 State of the Red Army (13:05 Telephone Call Reference) 14:10 Notes to End the Week 14:41 Summary of the Week 14:59 War Against Humanity Information

[@isaacsorrels4077]

The statement you said at the end, about remembering our history, is part of why I feel this channel and all your guys work is more important and necessary than many might think at first. The days of history channel and other big media entities like it covering this topic in such a respectful and in-depth format are dead and gone. We are about to reach the point in our time where no people who lived and fought in WW2 will be alive any longer. Our connection to this defining event of our modern day is rapidly slipping away, and judging by the rise in angry and hateful rhetoric in the world we have definitely began to collectively forget the lessons of the past. This series is something that should be seen by as many as possible, as I really do believe it might be some of the most important historical work being done in our time. Obviously it's not being done for a political reason, as it shouldn't be, but it doesn't change the fact that it's coming about right at the time where we are about to lose our last physical connections to these experiences, and right at a time where it seems we need to be reminded of these tragedies the most. I feel like I gush about this channel a little too much in the comments, but it's because you guys and gals at TimeGhost fucking earned it.

[@eljanrimsa5843]

Idea: Divert forces from the Moscow attack, do it quick and catch the forces defending Kiev from the flank. Days later: What's going on? The selected unit isn't moving. Have I used the wrong shortcut key combination?

[@dewiz9596]

I love those “exact” numbers of prisoners captured and tanks destroyed. Because, that would have made them more believable on the home front. Alas, never confuse precision with accuracy. Precision should be restricted to what can be determined with a 24-inch Slide Rule. In addition, I really appreciate the way that you (Indie) have made an effort to pronounce names, particularly Soviet, in a believable way (as if I would know, but they ”sound right”). . . Great stuff.

[@docibal4684]

I'm kind of disappointed you didn't talk about or at least mention the Hungarian and Romanian participation in operation Barbarossa so far.

[@iDeathMaximuMII]

Docibal Or the Italian, Croatian & Slovakian participation, but hey there’s still all of August until early December to mention them

[@docibal4684]

@@iDeathMaximuMII Yeah I agree , i would love to hear about them too, it's a shame he didn't talk about their participation neither. I hope he talks about all of them during the next month/s .

[@iDeathMaximuMII]

Docibal I heard from a YT channel named TIK that Romanian participation was big on the Eastern front, like 600k - 1 million Romanians fighting in the East

[@docibal4684]

@@iDeathMaximuMII Yes, I heard that too , and at some point , if i'm not mistaken they were the second biggest axis power on the eastern front or something like that.

[@iDeathMaximuMII]

Docibal Yeah I think it went like Germany, Romania, Italy, Hungary & Croatia in order in terms of having the most troops there

[@KesselRunner606]

Why no-one's thought of casting Bruce Willis in a McCarthur biopic, I'll never know.

[@YAH2121]

If Bruce Willis dies before he makes a McCarthur biopic i'll be disappointed.

[@chombus2602]

Finally a comment about this

[@kstreet7438]

Seeing the maps and knowing the context of all the suffering is just unimaginable in today's time.

[@pnutz_2]

3:41 that's moving in real time, the engineering behind moving a gun that size that fast must be enormous

[@oneofmanyjames-es1643]

Yeah I would not want to get hit by that thing

[@kevinconrad6156]

The History Guy did a video on the precursor to those guns.

[@kemarisite]

Actually, that kind of "disappearing" mount is obsolescent by this time because it is totally exposed to air attack. But yes, "stand clear" is absolutely necessary when the gun is being raised to firing position.

[@richardstephens5570]

That mount was made for coastal guns against ships.

[@kemarisite]

@Chas Maravel I've toured Fort Worden and the Puget Sound Coast Artillery museum. This position used to hold a couple of 16" guns in similar disappearing mounts, but those guns are long gone.

[@simonmay1671]

Read the title too quick and wondered how in all my life I've never heard of Hungary being partitioned by Japan

[@mmink9336]

I really like David Glantz (been reading a lot of his books). Also, if anyone wants to learn more on the Continuation war I HIGHLY suggest to read "Finland's War of Choice". Its a really good book that goes over almost everything that Finland went through during this time and the position it was in.

[@ikifilm]

I need to acknowledge that for lightning, color grading and costume of Indy, this episode is up to date the most pleasing one to watch. Obviously, there is a "pro" touch. The greenish-brownish tones look well on Indy. His costume in this episode is in perfect harmony with his skin tone and hair. As a result, the videos are much more cinematic now. Thanks for the effort. (This channel does not offer ephemeral bunch of videos so for its archival qualities, it needed to attain a level beyond KZbin videoish "aesthetics". What I see that it reaches that level.)

[@meketsimine5308]

This guy is the best war stories teller ever

[@TheCimbrianBull]

I really appreciate the shadow of the airplane model on the wall behind Indy. It really adds to the immersion experience.

[@kennethbowers2897]

I always thought that since Hitler hated Soviet Bolshevism that he intended he play a larger role in the invasion of Russia than the other campaigns, as a sort of "this is personal" mentality in mind.

[@MrBassmann15]

I'm pretty sure that did play a little part in his decisions, especially him ordering his troops to kill commissars on the spot, but he was mostly concerned about straightening his flanks to prevent breakthroughs and capturing resources that would hinder Soviet resources and their ability to fight. That doesn't take away the fact that Hitler was evil and that WW2 was a big mistake of course along with the Holocaust.

[@samuelkatz1124]

While I know the sources are likely sparse on this subject, but it feels like forever since there's been any action in China. Is the front silent, or just static? No major actions by partisans? Either way, I adore the show, and keep up the excellent work!

[@firemochimc]

Yep it's still super static, It'll get more interesting there once the Japanese strike a certain port...

[@firemochimc]

@Jack 793 Chips the Raid on Taranto was a little too interesting....

[@anastasiaa9255]

I watch this channel since the invasion of Poland and I love the videos about 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷. You have a viewer from 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷 i don't want to end this war

[@spudskie3907]

Γεια σου! Always great to see another Greek!

[@shawnconway6009]

"The Ecuadorian/Peruvian ends, but that's not a part of this war." Somehow! Amazing to fight a war at the same time as the rest of the world is fighting their own war.

[@Dumertone]

Hey, Indy! Any chance for a Brest Fortress defence (and history in general) special episode? It was a pretty dramatic and chilling ordeal, I would greatly enjoy watching that special!

[@kushanblackrazor6614]

It is worth noting, the German Panzer Divisions did have motorised and some half-track mounted infantry, but it was only a Regiment per division. That made it very hard for a tank division to hold ground without support from a more conventional infantry division (which had 3 regiments!).

[@iuploadherebecauseimnotbuy7236]

Great show Sir and teammates. Warms my heart to know that this information is being properly preserved.

[@snuifduif347]

Guderian continued to advance towards Moscow, this angered his father, who punished him severely

[@walterkennedy9474]

Last time I was this early, it still looked like Barbarossa would work

[@regular-joe]

I always miss the old sets and props, but have never been disappointed in the new ones - fantastic job, Astrid!!

[@pnutz_2]

I'd like to thank eastory for the attention to detail to the point of which ss division is running around in the field

[@podemosurss8316]

10:31 Shaposhnikov, up to this point since 1940 was the Deputy Chief of Staff. He had served as Chief of Staff previously until 1940, and he was very competent at his job. The survival of the Soviet forces at this point was in no small part thanks to the degree of operational flexibility they were designed to act upon, being able to reform if enough survivors regrouped with reinforcements.

[@billd.iniowa2263]

I just want to thank all of you at Time Ghost for your excellent work and dedication to WWII history. You are doing a wonderful job!

[@Fberg-uc1dg]

I love the work you guys do here but I have a little bit of criticism. I wish you explained or went into more detail on hitlers decision to go south rather than going to Moscow. A lot of people think this is one of the reasons Germany lost but it’s not. In the planning of Barbarossa Hitler wanted to go south because Ukraine was the “breadbasket” of the Soviet Union. Meaning that’s we’re all their food came from. And the caucuses was were all the oil came from.

[@pixelmidknight5407]

Excited for the series towards the end of the year! Gonna learn more about my country during the occupation of Japan. Thank you for this series~ they didn't teach much at school :>

[@pixelmidknight5407]

@Kohima1944 Philippines... not many are interested on history nowadays, Well indeed 1945 was the climax of it all, though I'm still curious how we got up this point before everything else

[@Uberdude6666]

It's really hard to imagine how the german army managed to last all the way to 1945

[@RhodokTribesman]

There were a lot of men to shove into the meatgrinder

[@nozecone]

Sentenced to death for incompetence?? That's a little harsh - glad that wasn't the policy when I worked in the warehouse ......

[@nozecone]

@Brett Mitchell Really?? Jeesh, nobody told me that ... I mean, they did tell me I was an idiot, many times over, but not the other part ... (let's see: Brett ... Brett ... not sure I remember you - wait - you're not the guy who had to stay half the night to sort out that mess that time I - oh, never mind; nice talking to you again!).

[@mikekenyon8483]

I always enjoy your videos and find them very informative about the realities of the eastern campaign.

[@stc3145]

Embargo on Japan? That will teach them. Im sure the Japansese wont do something stupid as attacking a certain Harbor

[@bingobongo1615]

I mean Rosevelt totally knew the Japanese had to attack now but I am sure he thought they would strike at the Philippines or Dutch Indochina which would have maybe given him enough reasons to bring the US to war. Pearl Harbor was a gift from the Japanese who didn’t understand just how difficult it would have been for Rosevelt to bring the US to war otherwise

[@edmonddantes3640]

@@bingobongo1615 You're exactly right. We and the Brits thought an attack would come at Singapore, Hong Kong, the Dutch East Indies or the Philipines but we underestimated the Japanese to our cost.

[@kgra8346]

What gets me is that Europeans were in effect protecting their stolen/colonized land from another colonizer.

[@Raskolnikov70]

An embargo was always the plan, it just needed a trigger to justify the US putting it in place. From the McCollum memo, October 1940, the last two points: "G. Insist that the Dutch refuse to grant Japanese demands for undue economic concessions, particularly oil H. Completely embargo all U.S. trade with Japan, in collaboration with a similar embargo imposed by the British Empire" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCollum_memo

[@greyscaleb1537]

I wouldn't call it stupid, more like a preemptive strike to buy time for a larger agenda... so yea

[@zushinkubrendy618]

Well Japanese is coming for the Philipines soon "We will resist and bite, bite hard" (Mabuhay!)

[@kingblondie7075]

I like the shadow of the bomber on the map, nice touch.

[@samboyco3093]

THE most 'on point' opening phone call of the series by a country mile.

[@brafianblackfyre9220]

Last time i was this early Germany still had Oil

[@wladanrs]

So basically Guderian wanted to drive on Moscow with less then 300 operative tanks, without infantry support, bunch of soviet units around Smolensk, with logistical problems, and open flanks. Pure insanity. After the war he blamed Hitler that he stopped that glorious army in winning the war.

[@doctorbritain9632]

It's Guderian, I would bet against him.

[@piotrd.4850]

Problem for Germans was executing conflicting visions of command echelon on various levels, not these decisions per se. Technically, it was insane plan. However, most of the war this way and at that point Soviets can hardly be called rational. Had limited rush to Moscow been part of larger, coordinated plan things might have got interesting as Soviet response would be dictated by same irrational emotions.

[@wladanrs]

@@piotrd.4850 Problem is that it couldn't be part of some coordinated plan as it was impossible to do that in situation where Smolensk area is not clean up, where you can't have infantry support and you have 300 tanks, with open flanks, insanity... Hitler gave them coordinated plan, clean up the flanks, wait for infantry to solve Smolensk, reorganise, reequip and then go on Moscow and even then they failed. All that "drive for Moscow" was just story for german generals to clean themselves after the war and blame Hitler for everything, nothing else. Then on that they added snow, and here you go, "Snow and Hitler" excuse for everything.

[@Raskolnikov70]

@@wladanrs Ah yes, the "madman Hitler" theory that suddenly popped up in the late 1940's as the Cold War started heating up and the Allies were more interested in help from the former Germans than they were in historical accuracy. It was one time where the losers, not the winners, wrote the histories but because it benefitted the winners they allowed the misinformation to stand for 50+ years.

[@Max-hb9yu]

Raskolnikov70 Hitler was a madman, no two ways about it and later in the war would make some disastrous decisions(Battle of the bulge), but this time he may well have had a something that resembles a not completely terrible idea.

[@luciusvorenus9445]

Great episode, as usual! Sharp tie, Indy. Looks good. 👍

[@bernardo3142]

When time comes, i really want a Brazilian Expeditionary Force special! Really big fan since 1914. Keep up working, fellas.

[@SJ23982398]

What happened to our old friend Hötzendorf :(

[@menitobussolini659]

He was left on the Great War channel.

[@fulcrum2951]

Sad moment

[@aaroncabatingan5238]

I'm pretty sure his ghost is talking to Hitler while he sleeps.

[@yamchadragonball6983]

He is fighting against Cadorna at the 89th battle of the isonzo river. Cadorna is pretty sure that his New tactic of sending People charging straight into machinegun fire will work though

[@podemosurss8316]

Evolution of Soviet forces, August 1st to September 1st: (Note: The regiments and battalions listed are only those not belonging to any brigade or division, usually a Soviet division was composed of at least 2 regiments + 1 battalion following different templates.) At the front: Active Fronts (Army Groups): 7 to 8 (+1) Armies: 29 to 38 (+9) Divisions: Rifle: 187 to 210 (+23). Opolcheniye: 20 to 24 (+4). Cavalry: 20 to 25 (+5). Motor Rifle: 16 to 5 (-11). Armour: 46 to 21 (-25). Air defense: 2 (=). Brigades: Rifle: 3 to 4 (+1). Motor rifle: 0 to 1 (+1) Armour: 0 to 9 (+9). Airborne: 15 to 11 (-4). Artillery: 8 to 6 (-2). Air defense: 22 to 19 (-3). Regiments: Rifle: 8 to 15 (+7). Armour: 7 to 5 (-2). Motorcycle: 5 to 6 (+1). Engineers: 1 to 0 (-1) Artillery: 142 to 138 (-6) Fortified garrisons: 27 to 21 (-6). Battalions: Armour: 2 to 38 (+36). Engineers: 63 to 93 (+30). Sappers: 25 to 37 (+12). Artillery: 7 to 4 (-3). Mortars: 8 to 9 (+1). Air defense: 45 to 56 (+11). Flamethrower: 0 to 3 (+3). Motorcycle: 0 to 1 (+1). Armoured Trains: 2 (=). Reserve: Divisions: Rifle: 0 to 5 (+5). Brigades: Airborne: 0 to 3 (+3). Regiments: Artillery: 5 to 2 (-3). Battalions: Air defense: 1 to 0 (-1). Mortar: 0 to 1 (+1). Engineers: 2 (=). Other Fronts: Active Fronts (Army Groups): 1 to 2 (+1). Inactive Districts (Army Groups): 11 to 10 (-1). Armies: 11 to 12 (+1) Divisions: Rifle: 81 to 117 (+36). Cavalry: 24 to 33 (+9). Motor Rifle: 2 to 0 (-2). Armour: 5 to 10 (+5). Brigades: Rifle: 1 to 3 (+2). Motor rifle: 1 (=). Armour: 0 to 11 (+11). Airborne: 1 (=). Air defense: 20 (=). Regiments: Rifle: 0 to 1 (+1). Cavalry: 0 to 2 (+2). Armour: 0 to 3 (+3). Motorcycle: 2 to 6 (+4). Engineers: 6 to 2 (-4). Artillery: 51 to 69 (+18). Fortified garrisons: 12 to 16 (+4). Battalions: Armour: 3 to 14 (+11). Engineers: 21 to 27 (+6). Sappers: 117 to 44 (-73). Artillery: 11 to 17 (+6). Mortars: 5 (=). Rocket artillery: 0 to 9 (+9). Air defense: 19 to 21 (+2). Armoured Trains: 6 to 7 (+1). Source: ВОЕННО-НАУЧНОЕ УПРАВЛЕНИЕ ГЕНЕРАЛЬНОГО ШТАБА (Военно-исторический отдел): БОЕВОЙ СОСТАВ СОВЕТСКОЙ АРМИИ - ЧАСТЬ I (июнь-декабрь 1941 года). Типография Военной академии ГШ, МОСКВА 1963

[@podemosurss8316]

Unit templates as of 1941: Rifle Division: 3 infantry regiments and 1 artillery regiment. Opolcheniye Division: 3 infantry regiments (no artillery) Cavalry Division: 2 (partially motorised) cavalry regiments and 1-2 light armour battalions. Tank Division: 2 tank brigades. Motor Rifle Division: 3 motorised infantry regiments, 1 motorised artillery regiment and 1-2 light armour battalions. Tank Brigade: 3 armour battalions and 1 motorised infantry battalion. Rifle Brigade: 3 infantry battalions and 1 artillery battalion. Motor Rifle Brigade: 3 motorised infantry battalions and 1 motorised artillery battalion. Airborne Brigade: 4 airborne infantry battalions. Regiments: 3 battalions of the same arm. Fortified District Garrison: 1 Infantry Regiment + Artillery. Entrenched.

[@yousuck785why]

Thank you!

[@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK]

Barbarossa... the Dunning-Kreiger effect! ;)

[@steffenberr6760]

Please “like” this so Indy and the team can see our demands for a day by day series on the Ecuadorian-Peruvian war!!!!

[@Raskolnikov70]

Downvoted because I'm still pushing for a mini-series on the Great Emu War. Priorities, man..... :p

[@Cruiserczcz]

FDR would have saved lot of ink, had he changed: "Nobody except Britain, Commonwealth and western hemisphere" for "Japan".

[@lupusdeum3894]

His Hitler imitation at the beginning is hilarious. . , "Just smash stuff!"

[@mononoke721]

Glad to see that period accurate Millennium Falcon in the background there!

[@yagruumbagaarn]

Russian pronunciation note: stavka is pronounced "stavka", not "shtavka" as it would be in german. IWithout exception, russian letters are pronounced according to their spelling even when rendered in the latin alphabet.

[@varana]

Without exception, except for the г in -ого. And the е in Буденный, if you're not writing the ё or are latinising it as e. And "according to their spelling" gets kinda difficult with kh (х) and some others. :D

[@yagruumbagaarn]

@@varana Fair point, there are a few exceptions but the exceptions are very regular. I just hope by next year Indy isn't referring to the Battle of "Shtalingrad".

[@yagruumbagaarn]

@@varana Plus -ого is always latinized as -ovo and Буденный is written as Budyonny so that the vowel in question is rendered roughly accurately.

[@varana]

@@yagruumbagaarn Fair enough. :) Although the latter one is not that consistent - in this video, Indy said "Budenny" (11:46), apparently going from a transcription that used e, and the standard English rendition of Горбачёв as "Gorbachev" regularly results in the wrong pronunciation.

[@LuvBorderCollies]

Since watching the recent episodes on the German equipment and infantry mobility problems, I've thinking it would have made sense to hook trailers/carts to the panzers to carry infantry. What difference would it make if the ground pounders were in a truck or horse drawn cart or walking or in a trailer behind a tank?? Maybe that thinking is too far outside the box. I've seen plenty of troops on tanks, probably later in time, for US and Soviet forces. I doubt the gas mileage would've suffered pulling ten Wehrmacht troops along.

[@WorldWarTwo]

They did have trailers! But that was mostly to carry extra fuel, since they were so far ahead of the infantry.

[@simonwaldock9689]

Yes, but how are you going to carry the ammunition, food, medical supplies etc for the troops in the cart? Are you going to have a second cart carrying those also towed behind the tank? The fact is that the German logistical capability was never equal to their intentions. The panzer and motorised infantry divisions did have infantry in trucks, but there were never enough trucks. The Germans took every truck that they could get their hands on into Russia. Trucks that came from Czechoslovakia, Poland, France and the British Expeditionary Force leading to a spare-parts nightmare. And there still weren't enough trucks.

[@podemosurss8316]

Actually the Soviets did something similar on their mechanised units as they sometimes lacked enough lorries: soldiers drove at the back of the tank, behind the turret.

[@eagletanker]

Tank trains. Each tank pulls a train behind it carry infantry and supplies

[@Raskolnikov70]

@@simonwaldock9689 This is exactly the issue. In the US Army we talked a lot about the "teeth-to-tail ratio", where every forward-deployed soldier needs umpteen tons of material in the logistics system moving forward constantly just to keep them fed and warm. Just basic items like water and POL (fuel & oil) takes up a huge amount of bulk and shipping weight and it needs to be lugged across whatever terrain a modern army is moving through somehow.

[@riccardogarzelli]

If I may suggest it'd be interesting to have a series of videos on how WWII affected modern day. I understand it's a massive endevour, but I also feel like that would be a way of understanding how machines have been put in motion during WWII (and before for that matters) and are still rolling as we speak (ergo Vietnam war, the cultural revolution in China, the chessboard relationships between countries today and so on...)

[@dr.barrycohn5461]

Nice job Indy.

[@cobbler9113]

Out of interest, what are your sources on the figures for shipping losses that you were quoting and what books would you recommend on the Battle of the Atlantic and the naval war in Europe? It's easy to overlook its importance as armies march across Europe and North Africa.

[@tommy-er6hh]

The History Guys just did an episode on Nortraship, the norwegian freighters that made a big percentage of the WWII allied freighter fleet, and suffered huge losses without respect. see it at: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpOUpmicma6Ynbs

[@cobbler9113]

@@tommy-er6hh Absolutely fascinating, thanks for the recommendation.

[@tommy-er6hh]

@@cobbler9113 here is another two that were visits to the Western Approaches/atlantic command from Drachinifel you might find interesting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4aTaYF3a86Ij7M - first visit kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXu9oIGQg7R2mcU - second visit

[@caryblack5985]

I would recommend Clay Blair Hitler's U boat war

[@Hiddewaasdorp]

I recommend after this series end. Probs a long time ahead. The Chinese civil war in real time would be great

[@goneham4015]

This or Vietnam/Korea would be amazing

[@78489789676658754335]

The American revolution or civil war would be interesting as well

[@78489789676658754335]

They could also cover some of the napoleonic wars

[@78489789676658754335]

Maybe the Seven Years Wars as well

[@Hiddewaasdorp]

Steven Clark yeah there are a lot of wars to cover 😄

[@johanlundstrom1561]

Glad to see some talk about the Soviet side and their thinking - there's been an incredible focus on the German perspective in Barbarossa so far.

[@QuizmasterLaw]

And if Guderian drove on Moscow? Let's look back to 1812. He might actually capture it (having outrun his supplies and infantry...) So what? Napoleon took Moscow. They burned it all to the ground, and then counterattacked in Winter.

[@dragosstanciu9866]

It was impossible for Guderian to capture Moscow, the city had to be besieged, that could take months.

[@Saeronor]

Attacking a large city with armored units bereft of serious infantry support would be a disaster in itself. In Guderian's case, he would be missing even goddamn tanks:)

[@QuizmasterLaw]

@@dragosstanciu9866 the antitank ditches hadn't been dug yet he might have been able to take it on the march.

[@dragosstanciu9866]

@@QuizmasterLaw Guderian's army would need to fight house-to-house in Moscow, street-by-street, the Soviets would not simply allow Guderian to enter Moscow unopposed.

[@QuizmasterLaw]

@@dragosstanciu9866 @dragosstanciu @dragosstanciu Yes, but: destroy rail networks into city, riverine routes too. Let city starve for 2-4 weeks while infantry catches up. Occupy starved out burnt out shell like 1812. Wait for coup against Stalin. Discover no coup, and see 8 May 1945 or maybe 1946.

[@moleratical1232]

Hey Indy, how come you never mention the Ecuadorian- Peruvian War?

[@tommy-er6hh]

What are you complaining about - Indy gave it as much time as he did the Thai-Franco war - and that was related to WWII, although peripherally.

[@indianajones4321]

Germany: Barbarossa isn’t going as planned... Japan: Welcome to the club

[@Nealikus]

12:42 "drums in the deep.... They are coming"

[@abramshk2947]

great shows👍👍

[@jjeherrera]

I'm glad the Peruvian-Equadorian War is finally over! I was so concerned about it...! :-D Were there any tribes fighting in Africa too? :-D

[@Raskolnikov70]

There were some neighbors in Hoboken, NJ who got into a fistfight over accusations of stolen newspapers. Turns out the paperboy was just throwing them into the hedge, but that didn't stop a few noses from getting bloodied. Mini-series coming soon!

[@jjeherrera]

@@Raskolnikov70 As The History Guy would say: "History that deserves to be remembered." :-D

[@gabriellins3572]

spoiler: hitler kills himself and the creators of the series considered an alternative end which he flees to argentina

[@lepimond4605]

That one is obviously fake, why would Adolf Hitler kill himself? The Germans have almost won the war, a couple of months more and they will have all of the resources of the Soviet Union. Next time try to produce something more believable.

[@Raskolnikov70]

I want to see the alternate ending where the Germans "win" by reaching Moscow but then spend the next 30 years getting slowly bled to death by Soviet partisans.

[@shawnr771]

Outstanding as usual. Thank you.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you! We appreciate that!

[@shawnr771]

@@WorldWarTwo I would love to donate, however my current monetary situation precludes that. The best I can like my other subscriptions is to put your videos on my watch later list and let them run through ads and all several times before removing them.

[@s.lajoie9961]

Great video as always! I love that vest, I really want one now

[@markgarin6355]

Adolf...by now.... it's the drugs speaking.

[@loddude5706]

Waistcoat lining to augment the tie, & first light for a booming dread of the night . . . the onset of your style shows so well. ("Meanwhile, a lone Lancaster, having lost an aileron, sustained dreadful mottle damage & a true shadow of it's form self, is now heading for home on the wing of a chair . . ." Sorry, couldn't resist it : ) x

[@VindicAlpha]

Looking back, it's fascinating to me just how on point Zhukov was about German capabilities and objectives at nearly all turns. It's like the man was born to defeat Nazi Germany and the Wehrmacht.

[@80travisbickle]

I read Douglas MacArthur's Reminiscences earlier this year, a great read.

[@manofsteel7052]

Damn Indy that hand watch is really nice and it fits you really nice!!!

[@pheonix35892]

Nice watch

[@rubberdingyrapids17]

Noticeable difference with camera quality it’s way better, longer episodes are much better too🔥🔥

[@cameronash5492]

I really love these animations!

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you! The team works really hard on each of them!

[@dr.barrycohn5461]

I just realized that you change the model bombers, they cast nice shadows. Good touch.

[@DrewBlankMusic]

I love this series!! Edward R. Murrow meets Groucho Marx? Enlightening detail and stirring portrayal.

[@WorldWarTwo]

DrewBlankMusic Thanks very much, we love you too!

[@echtervogel]

Nice sleeve holders, Indy! My Aunt had a pair like those. Pulling it off, I'd say.

[@Fischer01]

Very nice flieger, Indy :D

[@brandonblackfyre5783]

*Some say that "History Repeats Itself" & others say "History may NOT always repeat itself but it sure does Rhyme".....* *We can see a great example of this in real time right now during the present day war between Russia & Ukraine and how Russia is STILL after all these years & technological advances, are still leaving their tanks everywhere on the Battlefield because they have ran out of fuel or broke down due to horrible & negligence of the maintenance of the tanks.*

[@alexamerling79]

You know for such an ambitious undertaking, I don't think OKH thought through all the details on Barbarossa...

[@equarg]

Finland: We will aid Germany. But after we get our land back we are done. Germany:🥺😩

[@TheJamiester]

Thank you for keeping us up to date on the Peruvian-Ecuadorian war! 🤣🤣🤣