11.0.5 Ele Shaman NEW BUILDS | The War Within

[@spreadpeace3108]

Short note to 13:00: You don't really need to cast a nature dmg and fire dmg after icefury procc. Flameshock counts as vulcanic dmg. So it's nature and fire (i guess) combined. Hence you can just put LMT after icefury and get the elemental blast out of it. Same for prim wave which is elemental dmg (all three sources combined)

[@anthonystumpo496]

ahh thank you for this!

[@wannesvanneuville6091]

Nice thanks for the tip !

[@StephenKary]

Did not know this damn

[@StephenKary]

Been using my icy fury when LMT is up in AOE and it kinda feels worth it

[@shmooperdoodle]

I track my procs and buffs, and I do not get the effect just flameshocking. I also don’t get it from pwave. The echo buff, yes, but not just flame shocking.

[@Yes-wm7hv]

@petko i would absolutely love love love a video of you explaining what to do pack-to-pack when your ascendance is down, and how you get the most damage from your keys when your ascendance is down

[@rambinhuu]

Thank you from a Brazilian player who learns a lot with you from stream and here ❤

[@Lordwolfie59]

Thank you so much for making this video its nice finally hearing more thoughts on the different builds!

[@N11ghtm44r33]

Hey Petko, great thx for the Video! Have been a follower for 2 month now almost and I really enjoy your content! I've been strugling with the new Ele aswell, maybe cause I started playing Ele Shaman just this season. Its way harder to play now, but really feels rewarding if you do It right. Keep up the great Videos mate! :)

[@XxKiLLaKoop420]

The play style really hasn't changed much at all since the last expansion lol, now that fire totem is back it's been the same for a while, hardest part is changing targets to apply lightning rod

[@bonus1731]

Great video as always. Maybe you can add the talenttree export into your video description. 🙂

[@Joefaking]

The video we've all been waiting for!

[@Adjust91]

I swapped to enhance because the single target of ele now is so so bad, but my god, enhance is a lot of micro management 😅

[@sadza18]

And ele isn't? Lol

[@Adjust91]

@ nowhere near as much imo! Gotta prime your lb/cl before ascendance, track crash lightning, track tempest, track wolves, track doomwinds

[@xZiReTaCTiCzZ]

Ele dps is fine. Why u all crying?? Im doing great in raids and m+

[@cresentz23]

And you have to press something every global it is really destroying my fingers lol

[@tanmengazmil]

i was about to consider tat move but worried i cannot deal with the micro management

[@Cephess]

@Petko do you mind pasting the build strings ?

[@MrWiggles00706]

It's on Icyviens

[@MrSoontobesomething]

Thank you, Petko. This made things so much clearer to me. I main Pres Evoker, but started dipping my toes into ele/resto shaman this week. I'm still confused about a minor thing with our rotation in both ST and AoE: Since we're running Master of the Elements, are you supposed to weave in Lava Burst casts in between Chain Lightning/Lightning Bolt/Tempest casts? Do you only use LB with Lava Surge procs or are you supposed to hard cast it ever as part of your rotation? What about during your Ascendance windows? Do you press LB at all during Ascendance for the MotE buff? Thank you so much in advance.

[@reznya2700]

I just went to ele from ret for mythics because my friend wants to stay ret. IDK, i just use the smooth brain build and still do damage but sure what you guys are talking about. Yeah it got tuned but you guys gotta be playing bad in mythic if you don't understand the utility shammy brings.

[@pegnac97]

Awesome vid! Tha past few days I've been trying the talent that maes ascendance cd deacrease by 1 min. Since I'm running Pwave I dont particularly bother with the haste lost in ascendence, any thoughts on this? I'm enjoying the 2 min CD very much!

[@florianmierisch8467]

@Petko Thanks for the great guide - would you mind adding the import string in your next videos?

[@XCeazyX]

Petko--any thoughts on skipping preeminence so you can get charged conduit, echoes AND LMT? I don't see anyone doing this in any logs; is the slightly stronger ascendance really better than having charged conduit for the whole dungeon? thanks.

[@kubanazarewicz7609]

Hello, do you use your earthquake on the target or on the cursor? I feel like cursor lets me use earthquake more precisely if for example tank is moving boss a little bit but on target would probably simplify using earthquake, especially on bigger pulls when sometimes its hard to spot my own cursor 😅 Anyway thanks for the video and new build!

[@momomo6726]

Ty for the guide! Question 1: when not taking eogs is EB viable for more boss damage in dungeon (10-12 range)? Question 2 that follow the first one: if taking EB is eye of the storm more valuable ?

[@peettko]

Eb will sim better for st no matter what. Unsure if eb is better without echoes. EE is more valuable than eye of the storm

[@ferducar313]

Thanks for this guides!!

[@WoWOriginal]

Am I missing something? How did you put flameshock on all of them without dropping magma totem?? I didn’t see it where your move tracker is

[@Dreckerr]

Petko, what settings do you use when simming yourself for M+? I know Dungeon Slice doesn't work particularly well for us but no matter what combination of sim outputs I use it seems my sims are really overvaluing haste&crit still; similar ilvl to you with both builds but it says I should be dropping Mastery.

[@bubbasernie5762]

For m+ it would be patchwerk, 5 bosses, 1 minute.

[@SirAngst]

@@bubbasernie5762 1 minute is kind of biased. It is usually a good practice to base your sim on what minute class you are. Since we are now a 3 minute class, 5 targets 3 minutes based around ascendance CD. Otherwise your basing everything on best output for a third of the time. (not to mention trinkets can make this worse on 1 min as well)

[@Jaze92]

What I've heard from Sham Discord, when simming for gearing decisions just do patchwerk, 1T, 5min

[@bohyyx01]

Would be possible for you to type me here the Weights of stats for m+ for this new build, since i am using Pawn? Thanks!

[@Darkmatter833]

cue the Birdman hands

[@Dimekaw]

do you hard cast LB during single target rotation? pretty sure you did in the previous video

[@peettko]

Yes

[@AshesRulz]

great video thank you Petro. one question i have is when i use earthquake, it makes me click on the spell and then click on where the mobs are. how do i change this?

[@evteach]

Earthquake on your talent tree has two options - one is to place on the ground, and one is to place on target. You take the left one, see the tooltip says "This spell is cast at your target", and the right one says "this spell is cast at a selected location", you don't want this one.

[@AshesRulz]

@evteach legend thank you

[@koko-cc1qk]

Thanks for the guide, why earthquake under 1target ? %120 is higher than earthshock?

[@blancosaurus]

It's worth it, if boss don't moove outta the full EQ

[@koko-cc1qk]

@@blancosaurus but did you use math to calculate it ? its a bit lower than Eshock by like %2. unless I'm doing something wrong

[@dino2274]

Why do I see people take elemental blast instead of earth shock?

[@ibanpinoys]

Question: Why do you think Fury of storms is more important than herald?

[@peettko]

It's not, both are good. One is passive damage and the other one can be good depending on the pull sizes

[@sadza18]

Im not going echoes and LMT. Ill either drop ele and go enh or drop shaman entirely. God i miss LvB meat balls so much😢

[@me7yayer]

What is the use of icefury talent? if we will trigger EE from Primordial Wave? why not elemental unity and THunderward?

[@nordfald3740]

for fusion of elements my dude. getting those Elemental blast buffs is a huge damage buff.

[@ryanwillis8786]

It’s a good button to press if you have having to move during the fight

[@lukkova6382]

So when does he show us the rotation?

[@Lordwolfie59]

What trinket would you suggest if you don't have spymasters just egg and changling?

[@zeil2ify]

egg and changeling

[@tobiasjohansson1129]

So yo sya the "normal rotation" in a guide video, tell me, whats the normal rotation? ...

[@OdenthorIcefang]

?? What are you, 12?

[@mangomariel]

Wait what? you don`t need a WA for fusion of the elements. You will always cast a bunch of nature spell all the time in every situation. Like what else are you going to cast? So you`ll just do your normal rotation and the LB procs or flameshock will trigger the blast. you don`t need a WA for every single thing.

[@nicolassauer9681]

It is because Icefury can stack up to 2. So you dont waste a proc or know when the first EB procced

[@mangomariel]

@@nicolassauer9681 EB is a pretty big spell. Seems easier for me to just look at my character, and I know it will happen every time I fire. Also flame shock is volcanic so it is fire+nature anyway.

[@PumaDAce-jy5on]

I feel like the game plan is awkward to play when Frostfury comes into the build, which was exactly the same with Enha too much

[@iCondemnPS3]

All you have to do is use ice fury as an ability to cast while moving when nature’s grace is down. Other than that always try to use it before clicking ascendance for the buff :)

[@deadzone8175]

ty

[@R3lligion]

Elemental Equilibrium's is ONLY 10% increase for 10 seconds every 30 seconds That's roughly 25% of a 2 minute fight you have a the extra 10%. Why wouldn't you go with a more sustained increase. Just curious.

[@kamibains7259]

The ascendence window is all your dmg

[@mivuh]

whats the addon called that says tempest when it proccs?

[@terminat6746]

weak aura function of text to speech

[@sir-drake]

how do I craft that weapon?

[@PsyInnerSpace]

Do you share your weakauras somewhere?

[@peettko]

All on discord

[@alexanderjagell2963]

you dont use LMT in opner in aoe to get more haste?

[@SuperJarlos]

Lmt don’t provide haste. It just spread flame shock. If you are going to ascendence you don’t need lmt

[@mvcfitz33]

@@SuperJarlos Not when you have ascendance. You cast Pwave first, then ascendance which puts flameshock on 6 targets, then cast your instant cast Lava Burst and it consumes your Pwave buff and grants you the haste. You DO cast LMT to start pull if you don’t have ascendance up for the pull.

[@j.a.n1047]

do you use cast sequence macros?

[@lazytitan8038]

😂 your waiting on procs... you cant use a sequance macro when you wait for procs

[@runiih]

Do you mean enhancement shaman? :x

[@SuperThunderPanda]

12:35 the more you know

[@kiraos6732]

it's kinda sad how dead ele is in pugs now compared to last week. Ofc we can still do good, but it requires a team that plays around our cds. Blizz really fucked us over this week

[@Hongpongss]

no Surge of Power? :(

[@RaHD90]

나이스

[@razzg_]

Why no Elemental blast? it sims 10% higher for me in AoE, 6,3kk->7kk, huge

[@Grenan99]

Have you ever tried playing it in higher keys? You'll hate your life.

[@razzg_]

@ i did on 12-13, its fine imo

[@Jaze92]

one of the best ele shamans also playing EB and loves it

[@Grenan99]

@@razzg_ if it works for you, go for it. Not everyone has to perfom best on the same playstyle. Not sure if i'd combine Echoes with ele blast, but you do you.

[@reichfeld8850]

Dif anyone try a farseer build yet?

[@ImPalastorm]

Guys, is there a discord that we shamans gather and can ask questions? And why is everyone playing Totemic Recall? To me it seems the only totem it affects is Capacitor Totem.

[@alecruden6912]

Poison cleanse (last boss arakara for example) and always good spots for LMT

[@ImPalastorm]

Before the changes we didn't run LMT for the most part, but Recall was used. I thought it could be for Bulwark, but Bulwark even if you get the Totemic Surge and make it under 3m is still not affected by Recall.

[@mangomariel]

@@ImPalastorm cap totem and poison totem. If you have the double cap totem, and recall it, it can stunlock a pack for 12 seconds. (+ the pauses between each totem)

[@lancelottzimmerman6997]

works for stone bulwark totem or if the tank pulls big enough you can use it on LMT to get more FS out

[@CoreMsK]

​@@mangomariel stuns have DR so u cant stun 12secs

[@Hulkaholic87]

Seeing alot of the top Ele's also using EB now... why?

[@CoreMsK]

So much dmg

[@Indicatorreal]

have macros ? give u wa pls

[@JohnDoe-od1pu]

I know I’m in the minority as a noob player, but I wish they just left shaman as it was prior to this patch and did all this rework stuff for season 2. Just another headache middle of the season wtf

[@TheDickWard]

Same, honestly. Getting massive changes mid-patch is kind of exhausting. I just learned the spec, don't make me learn it all over again :/

[@viper6741]

same. haste ele was so fun to play

[@SuperThunderPanda]

im in the same shoes as u as a new player, but man new sham is so much more fun i'd take it

[@JohnDoe-od1pu]

@@SuperThunderPanda In what way

[@SuperThunderPanda]

@@JohnDoe-od1pu in a way that now its not just Lightning bolt/chain lightning Lightning bolt/chain lightning Lightning bolt/chain lightning Lightning bolt/chain lightning Lightning bolt/chain lightning Lightning bolt/chain lightning Lightning bolt/chain lightning Til u have maelstorm Ascendance and Stormbringer is fun Lavabrust is a button now

[@skillhearts]

So we never play sop anymore?

[@lancelottzimmerman6997]

aftershock is way better to fish for DRE procs

[@peettko]

Sop is fine too, it does a lot of damage

[@skillhearts]

@@peettko and it makes the rotation more fun imo atleast on single target

[@omgnowairly]

The nerf was needed.

[@Someonerandom858]

The single target damage is just too low for me now. Dropped Shaman. AOE is great but ST just feels boring

[@hugofreitas6799]

Raid dmg is low, dungeons is fine due the boss timing be basivally 1 to 2 ascendancys.

[@Someonerandom858]

@ I agree. I had to drop Shaman. Raiding is all I do and it’s meh now. Even bottom on some bosses

[@bubbasernie5762]

Swap to enhance.

[@Someonerandom858]

@ pretty sure I’m too stupid to learn Enh lol. I swapped to ret pally

[@Naxuwugod]

@@Someonerandom858 dropping a boring st rotation to a lame spec lmao

[@iCondemnPS3]

Is this build for lower key levels? It is legit simming 5 Million dps lower than the original build we had before the nerfs and changes this past reset. anyone else seeing this huge dps loss in sims?

[@GimmickNL]

Its very obvious last patch ele was overtuned. Of course the dmg is going to be lower.

[@iCondemnPS3]

@@GimmickNL thats not what I meant at all if you could actually read you would realize I am asking the talent build before the patch still sims 5 million dps higher than this build he is saying is better. stop trolling and use your brain

[@pmd5310]

8:37

[@MrNodrog518]

The class mechanics in this game are getting out of control

[@peaceinthemiddleeast]

You guys are all babies lol Raid has 2 ST fights and 6 Multi Targets Cleave .

[@chronix9784]

You literally cannot take any ele shaman to higher keys anymore. 95%+ are doing complete garbage damage in ST. Really don't understand it, but it's rip for almost every key because of that. Blasting 15 Mill aoe dps every 3 min really does not help. Also because of all those echoes builds, a lot of elemental shamans, are not even doing good aoe damage. This spec for me has become absolute favourite but damn, for my alts, i stopped inviting shamans, except healer.

[@AndrewKim-jt2by]

THIRD AF

[@amwio]

FIRST AF

[@erdal2302]

second

[@CamiloHerreraLavado]

This nerf show exactly how pathetic the wow community is, literally no ele shamans anymore and the micromanagement of enh its too much for that players, people just switch and switch and switch for the meta gameplay or to found a broken ass class so they feel good with the buggy dmg instead of learning and be a good player..

[@Gumblethebear]

Best build is enhancement…….