11.0.5 Solo Shuffle Tier List (Every Spec Ranked!)

[@TheHookemhornman]

BM is s-tier for sure. Confirmed every monkey is playing one atm

[@AtteLempiäinen]

😭

[@Kanoog]

EASY, EASY & EASY Money for Blizzard. Make a FoM - People BUY Token from inflated market to gear.... week or two later NERFFFFFFF it. Make some other trash FoM God Tier, People BUY Token from inflated market to gear... RINSE and REPEAT. The secret is, to just not play FoM and wait till your main specs aren't shit.

[@cresentz23]

@@KanoogThe secret is you don't need gold to gear up and you can make tons of gold just by selling bloodstones 💀

[@wkf97]

Which hero talent?

[@blackout4338]

@@cresentz23his point though is that mass amounts of people do and blizz obviously recognizes this hence why these changes happen and are planned. They’re not incompetent, they’re just really good at milking money out of morons

[@fogismaximus]

The change coming for evoker where rescue can be used in a root and breaks it is going to bumb them up as well. Facing a druid basically screwed them, but being able to get out of root/beam is going to help them out a ton.

[@OWlsfordshire]

Which is ridiculous. They already had nullifying shroud to break 3 CCs, hover to use 3 times to totally immune slows/snares, and 2 charges of scale to immune silence/interupt.

[@Benjamioth7598]

Shroud doesnt break cc? It makes them immune to inc CC​@OWlsfordshire

[@dylanwarner6035]

Blizzard did dk’s dirty

[@shmand]

At this point, a new tier list from five of the top PVP content creators are putting out a new one every like 3 to 4 days....

[@ThoGrey]

It's the meta ! Who's your top 5 Content creators?

[@mattmartinez9059]

To be fair they’re doing new class balancing every single week. So the meta does shift a bit week to week

[@Ruintek]

stay strong fellow marksman purists. we don’t play weirdo animal spec or whatever the heck survival is

[@RealBomoth]

Nothing to be proud of

[@Sharethenews-Phil]

How can we stay strong when we are not.

[@chrisgodx]

I dont think you should use 2400+ as reference, that's a bracket for mostly r1's rn, rogues always going to be good sinc we have a bunch of r1 rogues but look for example UDK. It has 7.71% in 2100-2400 and only 3.54% above 2400. Furthermore, there's no way DH is the same as WW, and I'm saying this as WW main, either put DH in B or WW in A. I would also disagree that UDK is that bad, it should go to B tier.

[@christopherfaulkner5821]

I do think 2400 is excessively high considering there are many multi rank 1 players that aren’t even 2400 right now….including Venruki. I’d say 2200+ is a fine metric to go by. The vast majority of players at 2200+ in rss are long time top players.

[@zeetjas]

DK is trash lol

[@chrisgodx]

@@zeetjas Nah mate, DK is the 5º melee in representation above 2100, they are are not trash as ppl think, the problem is in r1's bracket, which is not the case for 99% of the game.

[@zeetjas]

​@chrisgodx most of those dks on the top end belong to like 3-5 people btw

[@zeetjas]

There's a reason in every tier list they are getting moved down... I have played dks since wotl and unholy feels terrible rn

[@baorc7015]

‘Frost dk the worst melee class in the game’ this has been the case for well over 10 years. It’s very clear that blizzard developers do not want frost dk in PvP

[@Nanomachinesson9094]

but they are god tier in pve. So you win some lose some I guess. Though I hate seeing meta classes only once I climb high enough ladders. It's just boring seeing same classes over and over again.

[@KJusIs512]

Insane that ww isn't in A. It takes more skill but it's hella strong. When he sorts by 2100+ it's top 5, above enh and arms which he put in A.

[@dobro5958]

Arms Warriors JUST received a major buff this week, essentially giving them permanent avenging wrath comparing to previous weeks. On the other hand, Enhancement Shamans have struggled with viability for nearly two decades, resulting in very few players choosing to invest in the spec. Turn on the volume and listen to what Venruki says about enh. Why should representation alone be the deciding factor when evaluating class or spec strength? We all remember how Fury and Outlaw were considered garbage and completely unplayable in Shadowlands. Then, a few players decided to give them a shot and suddenly discovered they were absurdly broken, borderline an official legal exploit. As a result, everyone rerolled to these specs, and PvP ended up being ruined for everyone else during the final stretch of Shadowlands. No, I genuinely want to understand your thought process, because for me it doesn't make any sense.

[@KJusIs512]

@@dobro5958 You are remembering that completely wrong. As far as fury in shadowlands, covenants for warrior got massive changes that precipitated people investing in fury. It wasn't that people randomly checked, there are class discords where people are simming each spec into oblivion. When changes happen people immediately run the numbers and are ready to pounce. Fun fact, we see no warrior success in tournament at all, and ww were already having some success in tournament. Does that not factor in either? Another point is damage percentages tend not to work the way people think. Not saying warriors are bad right now, but 20% of low damage is still low damage. It's just barely enough to make them viable. Mage got 400% damage increase on ignite, is fire broken now? 2100 representation is the best picture we have of what the majority of the community that is decent at the game is making work. I trust that more than anything else.

[@KeefGB]

Resto druid is at best C even based on your description right after shaman lol. I would argue that being "decent" if you are really good at it means its bad. I can essentially do on my shaman with riptide earthliving and a healing stream the same as maintaining a whole kit on resto druid.

[@baboonman846]

Ah, Another person who actually plays and mains resto druid right now. Agree with you 100%. I'v actually just swapped to shaman

[@MrCodeman2036]

Agreed there should only be about 2-3 specs MAX IN S tier a lot in A and maybe when they do a class rework like they did for Rets and DHs, you can add a God tier above S tier

[@okiv99]

Tell tht to supatease who thinks 8 specs belong in god tier.

[@SIIKAP1]

@@okiv99he’s just a liar and wants things nerfed

[@cranberryJOOSE]

DKs should have necrotic strike build up, rather than an MS. So it absorbs healing rather than reduces healing taken. Also, subs biggest downfall in SS is other people DRing stuns.

[@alexhtx8932]

Windwalker is definitely A tier. I started a month ago, and im at 2000 ratinf. I slay all warriors and rogues

[@nathanhaug2898]

rex kwondo at its finest!

[@dobro5958]

Start playing a warrior or a rogue and you will slay all windwalkers in a week. Whats your point?

[@Imperyon]

WW's biggest weakness is that it's extremely kitable. Even more kitable than ret, because ret can at least still do damage while being kited. I would totally play WW if I didn't have to consider every 1v1 with a mage, hunter, or devoker as Elden Ring boss fights.

[@alexhtx8932]

@dobro5958 im slaying all rogues and warriors, what's your point?

[@SIIKAP1]

@@Imperyonyeah, and try playing as a shadow priest against a WW or warrior and they will feel like boss fights

[@know_Name]

whoa,, never knew vens hair was so long

[@cainrip89]

People sleep on ww.. not a lot of people play ww even when its good but it kinda bangs right now

[@alexhtx8932]

This! I went from ele shaman to WW over a month and a half ago and im just smashing arenas

[@baorc7015]

As a frost dk PvP main, I quit TWW after 2 weeks. Given class changes, the pattern repeated that frost dk is only viable during a prepatch (non-season). Fundamentally I think development choices are terrible given an RPG MMO player success is based on the original class and spec they chose on day 1. An RPG should not be flavor of the month

[@austingore4248]

I think tanks are slept on right now. Blood DK and even bear druid have insane disruption and set up potential.

[@quademullins4767]

I’d love to play more 3s but even as a healer it’s hard to find people to play with, how do we alleviate this situation, how does a semi new player get glad with no one else new queing 3s

[@wellenbrecher3986]

if you are eu we can queue!

[@quademullins4767]

@ NA unfort

[@Jakekelley-hs8bk]

careful of the keyboard warriors

[@kylekermgard]

Why do they always over nerf dk

[@tugaydurmaz8049]

NGL Ven, first time i aggree your tier list :D

[@SethanAlbayrak]

Frost dk is the bottom tier where it belongs. Thanks Blizzard for making frost dk worst spec in pvp for straight 10 years.

[@Ottomann7]

Its crazy man. There is no excuse why some specs are almost always shit, maybe 1 Season decent. I dont play dk and dont understand it

[@Frequently1]

It’s sad that this also the fate of Aug pretty much since it’s inception. The only spec where they let everyone who doesn’t play it decide it’s pvp viability and ignoring all the feedback of the people who play it

[@Alrokako]

Be laughing at y'all asses in solos on my Ret I be dominating tf out of them

[@andrewwittekind5693]

Dominating on the velcro shoe and helmet Timmy spec. Great job bro lol.

[@Bubajumba]

By design, some classes are more oriented around damage, like fire mage or balance druid. They are possible to use in pvp and sometimes they will be decent but they will never be S tier, or rather should never be by design

[@UndeadAaronGames]

Resto druid is really good, people just don't understand the CC component required for HOTs to work properly. People spam regrowth and watch their allies die when all they need to do to top off their team is Root a warrior or cyclone a mage

[@alexanderh3875]

This is 100% coming from a non glad player. Resto Druide ist just bad atm. Too much global for healing, dmg too high for going clone over and over again. Ist C tier

[@jdstko1]

Yes, if you clone root and cc healer properly rdruid is s tier

[@Froddan92]

Its wired 1 second you say x- can make Rogue look S but its B, then 2 minute later you say Enhance is rly hard to pull off but Saul and Bigdam makes it A ?

[@pubadubgthreemeninatree8596]

forst Dk could be revamped so much if Frostwyrm's Fury was a choice node with something viable. This spell is the core of the frost dk gimmick and if we had the option to switch this to something more flexible like an MS we'd be viable. Adding some complexity to the class would be cool as well but 1 step at a time

[@bullhorn8782]

With the high damage blizz don't need reduced healing on any spec. Healers have to struggle to heal as is.

[@DrPhilYourGap]

Dude has a tier list for every day of the week... ,

[@yallia6197]

Nearly 50% of the dps being either feral or BM is wild... They need to tune that shit down and buff underperforming specs.

[@00x0xx]

BM & Paladins have always been designed for players who have trouble playing harder classes. Feral is a glass cannon, like mages, they've always have been. So I don't mind feral being strong, since they're easy to take down by a skilled player.

[@MatthewToussain]

“Frost DK needs a mortal strike” is a take that no healer has had. Ever.

[@maagi1]

Why? Just use cds on their burst and they are useless for a while.

[@TheVeregat]

If you're a healer, you shouldn't have issues with frost dks...

[@MatthewToussain]

Windwalker take is very wrong. Wow. WW equal to sub rogue? You crazy friend.

[@christiansimon6949]

When he said warriors were better than WW I was legitimately shocked. Like WWs STOMP warriors right now and its not even close... 😂

[@illmerkcsgo]

@@christiansimon6949 in 2.2k rating it's the opposite from my experience. But definitely depends on the players.

[@jacksonlittle5993]

@@illmerkcsgo 2k + applies to like 1% of the community so why use that as a reference at all? it applies to almost 0 people watching these vids

[@Madie_Kawlie]

Bring back Cata Necrotic Strike Dks to fix them imo

[@lutfikhundakji7149]

How would that work with the current rune system

[@Hatoreus]

​@@lutfikhundakji7149 I've long wanted NS to come back, was the ability that made me fall in love with DK. We've technically had NS in the current rune system in SL. I'd like to come back, as powerful as it was in BFA, make it cost 2 runes with the ability to use the DC proc instead.

[@QPoily]

@@lutfikhundakji7149 How would it not? It shared the same space as Scourge Strike except instead of it dealing chonky damage, it absorbed healing taken. There's no reason why it couldn't share similar space. Or share similar space as Festering Strike/Wounds. Festering Wounds now leave behind Necrotic Wounds when popped, reducing X amount of healing taken afterwards. Plenty of ways to reintroduce it.

[@tiagoferrari2392]

I think WW is a bit higher... its high A, almost S...

[@MasterWilku]

Give Death Strike a Mortal Strike effect for Frost DK please. Very good idea Venruki!

[@xilial]

holly priest: no mitigation, lots of casting, poor mobility, poor CC, average throughput.

[@Spiritt_Daphiti]

...that's why you have Shadow and Discipline "OP"options buddy

[@truthiz2805]

@@Spiritt_Daphiti You can affect Holy priest regardless of shadow and discipline

[@Spiritt_Daphiti]

@truthiz2805 from every class that have a 3 different talent trees* only Shamans and Dead Knights ( partly Monks ) didn't receive their lil* gifts ...nothing personal mate but aye holy priest/UH DK/ret-pally = Vanguards Cleave , GG wp ;)

[@SIIKAP1]

don’t forget runs out of mana easily

[@StrobeFireStudios]

Enhance Lightning/Stormstrike build with Farseer is literally incredible. I went from 1300 to 1800 in a few hours of Shuffle. It's ultra fun, you have two go's back to back. And it doesn't actually feel squishy. it feels like Thor. You literally feel like Thor. Vs melee lobbies its unreal how good it is. Casters still shut you down a bit but very good fun.

[@andrewwittekind5693]

you mean stormbringer? Farseer is resto and ele.

[@angrygun7826]

Love my disc priest and dev evoker rn, both very fun

[@tengeoff]

So close to 100k Ven

[@DavieP12]

Are Rogues intentionally getting put low on all these tier lists to try to avoid nerfs or something?

[@TinyBudha]

BM and Ele are the strongest specs Imo. Feral and SP would be like 3rd and 4th best

[@Moarlatz]

Have we got a new name for the upcoming zoo comp? - Demo lock, BM hunter, healer.

[@romeohart7558]

I think zookeeper would be a good name 😂

[@styg4501]

Where did the long hair come from? Lol

[@Fellrush]

😂 so true, like wtf

[@wowtierlists]

I was comparing to older videos and checking if he's always had it and I just hadn't noticed ahah

[@Fellrush]

@@wowtierlists same here 🤣

[@anothernobody3154]

🎶Wake up wake up wake up, theres a new ruki vid 🎶

[@lavishgxdBoD]

man i can't stick to a class for BG Blitz. tossed between mage, pally, hunter etc

[@MrJogiman]

I play assa now i have 2,3 on Eu and feel good, even with h pal lobies but maybe i have luck, but buff improve garrore feels very good

[@taylorwhite2751]

What weapon is that? And where is it from?

[@HollowHeoden90]

Amirdrassil

[@grantx6]

He has on the dragonflight 2.1k illusion from szn 2 or 3 I don't remember

[@williamforbes7156]

no mid ad, man has to eat, but thanks you. i didn't agree with some of the ranks but the in depth for the choices is why i stayed for the vid. maybe we see some fire mage warr in arenas, bring back fire orb!

[@andrassalfay5869]

My favourite tier list so far from this guy is the one with the thumbnail containing a super serious face and the words "they're great." with no initials or nothing. :D The thing is, content creators realized that the most SIMPLE things tend to pull in the most views... cause people are, well... ...simple. We made this possible. Now bear with it. For the rest of our lives, we stuck in TIER LIST purgatory. :D

[@Venruki]

That's a C tier comment.

[@captainwhatthefuck2405]

U need some chill. I like watching them. And with the fast pace classes get changed right now, it makes sense making them

[@PoopSockJohnson]

People complain about tier lists but if u actually look, the last one on this channel was a month ago. It's not like its every week

[@christiansimon6949]

Ww should be top of A tier. IDK what ven is smoking saying that warriors are better 😂 They do less damage and have worse defences. This entire expansion has been my WW absolutely bullying DKs and Warriors. I haven't lost a 1v1 to either this entire expansion so far.

[@illmerkcsgo]

If you look at the charts there's only 1 WW above 2400 in NA and there's plenty of warriors above 2400. It's not even close how many more 2400+ warriors there are.

[@alexhtx8932]

Man I'm punishing rogues, warriors, DKs, and feral druids as WW. Love being a monk

[@Sharethenews-Phil]

If you would have MM at C tier then you would have been correct. Marksman fell way down after the dark ranger rework.

[@bravos2709]

It's stupid that whenever arcane get buffs in PvP its getting nerfed shortly after where other range DPS can stay on very high pick rate and its okay for blizz... Arcane had 5 mins after rework but ofc they had to NERF it to ground :(

[@Alrokako]

They're making arcane the weakest mage spec for pvp currently even Fire is doing better

[@tannervanasten]

There absolutely is not an argument that ww is worse than warrior. Its easily on par with feral.

[@JB-rb3jk]

Ww is nothing less the a tier. If warrior is a, ww is 100% a+. Warrior has the same issues as what monk might have. We burst and sustain is good. It's defensive are better the warriors.

[@illmerkcsgo]

Look at the leaderboards there is only one WW above 2400 compared to 40 warriors above 2400. This is based on facts not opinions.

[@renee1326]

Is this the expansion, a new meta every couple of weeks? Or will things ever chill? It's exhausting

[@dradamov]

Things will hever chill because Frost DK is as always on the bottom of the tier list, sadly.

[@OWlsfordshire]

You say most things are the A/B tier, but you are rating specs way too high. Rdruid, r sham, & arms war for example. Problem with boomy is blizz keeps buffing their pad instead of defensives.

[@trentoningram6136]

Lol BM just got 25%-30% damage nerfs to basically every spell..

[@Heimatar]

How long it takes to solo a tier 8 delve as a BM hunter it takes me fro 12 to 14 minute the spiral weave in Azj kahet with gear rating 115 i clear it 4 times and get 8 runed crest then do mining 1 hour that is it my two hour play😂😂😂

[@bullhorn8782]

No augment evoker?

[@hawkthemans]

24:43

[@Justin-ny8df]

No Aug placement? :(

[@moosekage3858]

As a war main i WRECK pallys. It's the damn frost magest perma rooting me that I hate lol

[@FormoraDreamleaf]

Please god give hpriest some love

[@Dudemanroman89]

Just hit 80 last night on my spriest, got 626 pvp ilvl noticed im way squishy then at the start of DF 2100+ might level another alt up because the train is real lol

[@Imperyon]

All I know is that BM hunter is S tier in solo casual PVP like 1v1 and warmode. Literally from zero to hero. I'm actually so surprised I still see MM hunters in solo PVP, like...what are you doing, guys, do you really enjoy having to deal with melee sticking to you like glue?! MM is for shooting people from the safety of a meatwall and then promptly eating dirt when the meatwall breaks. If you want to go down and dirty at the frontline and make rogues, rets, ferals and warriors send you hate whispers, you go BM.

[@vasilije94]

Some of us just hate BM to the core. Its that simple. I would rather suffer as MM than play BM. As for survival I don't even consider it to be a hunter spec ever since it became melee class. I play WoW for fun, I don't plan to compete on world stage pro games. MM has remained the only true hunter spec. BM is just some weird beastiality shit some wow dev jerks off to. It is not a hunter spec ever since they added ability to have two pets and from then it just became some weird zoo shitfest on your screen.

[@Kedislol]

I'm finding destro damage is a big overtuned and it clearly takes them to A tier

[@plasticbudgie]

Ive really enjoyed this season in all honesty, its refreshing too not have rogues gos tier and mages.

[@Aquatixlol]

So in comparison to the meta DPS, Demon Hunter still has a decent damage gap. I think it's still C tier, and belongs with DK

[@ThoGrey]

Damnnn shots fired :/

[@Fired88]

I prefer my tier list to be A, A+, S, S+, GOD, GOD+ or else everyone will feel bad about their class.

[@Kanoog]

That makes ZERO SENSE - If they had a GOD+ Tier and a class is sitting at A tier, it would feel like shit because of how the scale works.

[@Fired88]

@Kanoog your right. Take out A and add GOD++. Good catch. Thank you.

[@125conman]

Mop fire mage was the best fire mage. Every since they changed combustion to a more standard dps cooldown the spec lost its soul

[@prowessjen]

everyone needs MS. what happened to class uniqueness.......you made videos on that issue too. which is it.

[@BasedChadman]

Enhancement gets kited by frost mage worse than warrior does. All you have is feral lunge and gust of wind. Primordial wave was nerfed, so your ranged poke is significantly less potent. Outside ascendance wind strikes, you do absolutely pitiful damage if you can't stick to a target, but it's definitely powerful vs immobile casters.

[@myname9856]

What is malay?

[@arnymon9340]

Chaos bolt ringing a bell? Affliction definetly S, agree with rest 👏

[@pavelpodesva137]

Well, SP got stealth nerf entropic rift and collapsing void by massive 60% in pvp, so maybe not even A anymore...

[@ianryan8933]

Dude yes i dropped from 2300 to 2130 on my sp going 4-14 i also feel WAY squishier, i get 1 shot every round have to disperse the opener…

[@ziggs123]

SP is garbage now and for the rest of the expansion. We had our 2 weeks of being meta

[@jdstko1]

Yeah them 300k blade dances are pumping lol

[@rmiller0031]

Another week another tier list

[@petermartinson5483]

Its so sad to see tanks obsolete in pvp. I remember one of the funnest builrs i ever played was 100% armor penetration prot warrior in wotlk. Massive crits, so much fun.

[@Tixsi11]

finally a normal tier list without the triple +++ minus nonsense lol.

[@Alrokako]

Fire is doing a lot better since recent patches an it is doing better then Arcane. Also Frost fire is definitely S tier I kinda wanna say Ret pallies are currently also

[@maagi1]

Have you played frost?

[@Alrokako]

@maagi1 Yes I run Frost in solos an I couldn't lose last night I win at least 4 games a match easy Frost is still great despite nerfs

[@maagi1]

@@Alrokako And whats your mmr?

[@Alrokako]

@@maagi1 just reached 1.3k

[@maagi1]

@@Alrokako You probably mean cr, but if you 4-2 lobbies in 1300 mmr with "s tier spec" then you gotta be trolling lol

[@Spiritt_Daphiti]

When i saw ( no Necrotic Strike! ) after 8 years break ( i didnt ask for it ) Unholy DK was totally Destroyed! I stoped at the end of Legion ....now DK has stupid Horses" and Spec that on paper and model are so Insane ! Yep ! San'Lyan Unholy! But on practice thanks to Delves i got 617Ilvl pve and 635ilvl pvp , even then its lowest Dps and shitiest class at the moment in World of Warcraft"The War ( Alliance only ) IT IN. 585-595 do more than me 617+ , very nice Balancing .... Where is the Horde ?! For the Horde !

[@mr.alexeitonkov2967]

Sub rogoue is C tier, especially in solo shuffle. Correction, D tier. Protection warrior doing better

[@uoutub3]

All 3 Rogue specs are S tier you are wrong and bad

[@mr.alexeitonkov2967]

@@uoutub3 rating says otherwise. you have bm hunters hitting 2700 while top rogues sitting at 2400. You are delusional and on a campaign to keep rogues at D tier. Shame on you

[@lutfikhundakji7149]

As someone who plays frost dk casually at 2k solo shuffle, my biggest issues is connecting funny enough. You’d think that frost dk is strong for having uptime on a target but mages blinking 6 times in a second, evokers being immune to cc and slows, and all other random silence/dm/cc immunes are what fucks up my momentum.

[@Sheldonthecow]

Same here, also disarms completely cuck the entire spec and ppl can spam it every 45 sec/minute on ur burst windows

[@twomorebeersplease9027]

All things equal, The only thing mm has any chance of killing currently is mages. And that’s having to play a hell of a game. With the nerfs in survivability and what feels like an overall 40% nerf to damage in arena. You don’t have the damage to make melee lobbies have to back off or the survivability to sit and cast. Mm went from having the smoothest play style before the patch I’ve experience in years. To being super clunky feeling with low tier burst. Trueshot feels a lot less impactful and having aimed shots with a 2 second cast time that only do 700-900k crit on anything but mages feels horrible. Blizz has once again failed the mm spec.

[@Alrokako]

Frost Fire dominates MM right now

[@twomorebeersplease9027]

@ no argument, my statement was more meant that mage is the class mm is able to damage the most.

[@OWlsfordshire]

Warriors are ASS! Warrior mains logged off the first day of this "buff" and are rolling BM huntard.

[@jcvm8915]

Rename this channel to PvP Tier Lists, Period

[@Opeth221]

It’s due to the changes they make weekly. It completely changes the game.

[@Slickhuman]

Tf kinda hairstyle is that

[@olsonbrandon91]

Yeah DH has like 0 sustain EDIT: WW and DH are not similar.. WW is good and slept on, I also see more of them then DH.

[@jmsubs529]

Thank God! I need someone to tell me what to play. Can a Canadian tell me who to vote for too?

[@dimppo7151]

Tier list looks accurate but the melee specs are so off tbh. unholy dk is not that low. dh is not the same as ww(ww A tier). not all rogue specs are in the same tier, outlaw lower. look at the data at the end for melees. However you got the ranged and healers spot on. great work Venruki always a fan big respect.

[@mistakai4226]

I guess if the development team cant get tuning right, youtubers get to profit off of weekly tier lists.

[@Tyzen7]

Lmao WW Monk is definitely S tier

[@christiansimon6949]

Yeah idk how he was saying warrior was is better than WW... I literally do more damage and have way better defensives. Like I can us Karma 2 times in 1 game super easily 😂 And thats just 1 defensive.

[@glockensteinttv]

Resto shaman pain. Plays like B but feels like c most games.

[@ioanniskapios1099]

Music is too loud wtf

[@frankyio22]

Playing fire mage does not feel like C tier, super fun and the ignite damage when u stack em up is pretty good.

[@HollowHeoden90]

Fire mage not metà Just couse hunter has Ros, pretty much nullyfying combustion. And in solo every lobby has 1 hunter atm. Chance u go 6-0 are low

[@BoKWaa]

Well.. I guess you guys have to watch Aeghis. Rank1 Firemage in shuffle...

[@CuteFunnyAnimalsTV-yk7hb]

Frost better

[@plague6174]

Up next, a tier list ranking the same previous 20 tier lists done so far this entire expansion when we're only 1 minor patch in. Stop overdoing it.

[@Opeth221]

You should direct your frustration at blizzard for the over the top tuning. Classes are going from op to unviable in one week.

[@Pallehz]

Ret propaganda is crazy... it's b-c tier because the Meta is so caster dominant. It's lack of ms makes it really bad into triple caster lobbies.

[@jeffbarbary5616]

Tier list should be play ranged. If not play feral.

[@billtwo7389]

Balance druids are never A tier, they are easy to kill and impossible to keep alive

[@SYLXM]

Pet classes should never be good in PvP. I legit don't care if some people enjoy the playstyle. Literally no one likes playing against the visual throw up that is Beast Mastery hunter. I can't even see my own character as a melee while playing against this class.

[@critical4306]

Turn off pet nameplates

[@cesarvalencia2418]

@@critical4306Even with that, BM hunters are using a giant beetle on their stable call that literally covers the target player, and they summon like 3 or 4

[@critical4306]

@cesarvalencia2418 if you can't target an enemy because of pets something is wrong? U can literally change tab if you have that bound to just tab player nearby not the pets. Or if u macro player 1 2 3 they will be easily targeted? Also weak auras with class icon above there heads, not to mention the gladius addon with cast bars if that's what your worried about seeing them cast..

[@cesarvalencia2418]

@critical4306 I’m not having an issue targeting players it is just distracting and annoying and that is the reason top BM hunters are using that beetles because they don’t have any special abilities, they are using also a black bird just to create visual chaos on the arena.

[@SYLXM]

I don't use pet nameplates. That doesn't chage anything I said.

[@hallelujah3119]

8:57

[@Hatoreus]

UHDK is either C tier, or S tier. This has been the case since BFA.And you know it never lasts more than a few weeks as S tier.

[@sparv1067]

Unholy dk isn’t even bad rn

[@Hatoreus]

@@sparv1067 Ironic you post this when its literally C tier.

[@OWlsfordshire]

I'm trying to gear alts in 2s and from fresh MMR-1800 it's been 90% BM Huntard/disc. Not sure if it gets better, sickening.