11.1 WoW News / Transmogs / What About PVP!?

[@itswhzly]

I’d be happy to pay $5 a season for a PVP battle pass that’s a free to play model for pvp only. A pvp lobby hub like plunderstorm, where I don’t need to worry about gear but just playing the class and spec, with transmog options. They need to change the game model for PvP to something that more aligns with modern gaming imo.

just play marvel rivels? tf, gear is part of the MMO model, what are you even asking for?

[@itswhzly]

Lol sadly I can’t play MRivals. And I know man I enjoy gearing up too just saying after I’m done gearing up it gets boring. Might be better to just have a separate PvP lobby game model

@ nah u just need to play a different game if u don’t like gear progress

[@ostrogothiccyoutube8118]

why would i play marvel its not even a mmo lol

@@ostrogothiccyoutube8118but u want non-mmo features ??

[@JL-td5cj]

Bro stop these click bait titles.. you have a pvp audience base and no actions are taken for PVP

[@tomazou2010]

@@JL-td5cj he also needs to try and keep his KZbin channel alive and generate income. If he can only talk about wow pvp he might as well not have the channel

[@EagleFreestyle15]

I disagree that this is a clickbait title, I read it as "OK these changes are great but what about pvp!?" Which is what I think was intended.

[@EthCepher]

Would love to see your thoughts on the Community Flare addon used by epic bg comms. Venruki covered it recently. Needs more exposure.

[@PostalProduction]

Why is it so crazy just to make ranking bronze, silver, gold whatever. And MMR is hidden completely then if they want to tune MMR behind the scenes you wouldnt get mad at the number

[@Nefarium123]

We already have combatant, challenger, rival ect. What will changing the name and icon change?

[@theflyest6595]

@@Nefarium123exactly lol

[@vaylox09]

Renaming stuff isn't gonna make people suddenly play healers in solo shuffle

[@magdabrownis265]

@@vaylox09 I’ve healed several thousand rounds of shuffle this season. You are welcome 🙏🏿

[@tomazou2010]

All they'd have to do to get me, a healer main, back into Solo Shuffle is align healer MMR and gating gains with DPS. How can blizzard look at the EU SS ladder and see only 2 healers in the top 100 rated players and think it's fine?

[@semmer65]

I would like to see Skirmish Arena be actually rewaring, the only reason to play it is for a quest which only rewards 175 conquest on completion. Make it reward like 40 conquest each win or something, or even put in a rated 2v2 solo shuffle. Just more gamemodes, although that would mean longer queue times. It might also make PvP easier to get into for new players

[@tomazou2010]

I play 4 healers, all they'd have to do to get me back into Solo Shuffle is align healer MMR and rating gains with DPS. How can blizzard look at the EU SS ladder and see only 2 healers in the top 100 rated players and think it's fine? Why queue solo shuffle when I can queue BGB and gain rating at the same rate as everyone else for the same effort.

[@304enjoyer3]

But if everyone in the lobby are higher MMR than you, you get more cr for winning and less for losing. Wanna gain rating like a dps? How about queuing with lower MMR healers, go 2:4 and lose 60 rating, then go 4:2 and gain 18. Then couple times one of the healers goes 0:6 means you’re stuck with 3:3 and that’s it for the day, 3 hours have passed.

[@tomazou2010]

@304enjoyer3 mate the ladder stats speak from themselves, the system actively disincentivises healers from queuing. Rating gains are calculated as Healer vs Healer, it's a 6 player lobby not a 1v1 with 4 bot dps. 2 healers in the top 100 players is a joke.

[@304enjoyer3]

@@tomazou2010 ah so it’s healer vs healer MMR, ok I get it. Then it makes sense, there are less healers, less inflation, so their overall rating is less?

[@drewamos6]

Came back to WoW retail after 10+ years and already unsubscribed. Made 5 level 80’s only to sit in 20 min ques for PVP. Not worth the time or money for me.

[@neek6327]

If solo shuff queues times are reduced id totally come back to retail

[@GsxrNYX]

even right now with the reduce player count as a dps i rarely wait over 5 mins for a q. as a healer its like 5 seconds.

@@GsxrNYX you're a liar.

[@mensen003]

​​@@GsxrNYX only when you have shit rating. High rating is atleast 30 min

[@gamiii6666]

@@GsxrNYXstop lying 😂😂😂

[@parkersmith597]

Don't understand this lol. If people came back and just pressed que the ques would automatically go down?? It's not entirely blizzards fualt it's just not being qued

[@timothycalkins6105]

You nailed it, unsubbed and not coming back until it’s revamped

[@Evebr]

I hope Blizz developers tak Supatease's advice into account. Great ideas !

[@boybakergg]

For this level of nerf in 11.0, there will be more afks rather than bringing back. My warrior friend and Hpally friend are already to afk next season.

[@ElderWillows]

My favourite action taken by Blizzard was banning Crusader. 10/10 gameplay choices.

[@brandonneifert3199]

Who is that?

[@Johnportrait95]

@@brandonneifert3199 a rank one paladin he likes to rage and scream a lot very entertaining to watch

[@SQLdb]

Venruki had a great idea of making honor ranking a seasonal thing with new rewards bound to it. something similar to the renown pvers are getting in 11.1. Game feels dull and boring with cheap rushed out updates so far.

[@Fired88]

Unless they make joining a group for mythics easier, and I'm talking like solo que lfg type easy, these changes have absolutely no relevance to me especially as a PVPer.

[@Róçkös-moonguard]

While you're at it, get rid of the seasons! It isn't very pleasant to gear a toon every season when WoW is not your career.

[@davidcroft2528]

It's sad that the only news I can find anywhere about PVP in 11.1 is your video, saying that there is no news!

[@guixanyr]

Wow PVP is super fun wish they would focus their efforts on trying improve the overall pvp experience and cutdown que times. Wouldn't hurt to make the gearing simpler and easy for pvp gear.

[@jacobharris2722]

It already is easy with the options of conquest gear, world pvp and crafting the gear with the banners. The only “difficult” part that takes time is the honor farming for putting gems on your gear. I didn’t want to jump onto the MMR bandwagon until I finally started pvp checking a majority of my opponents. Playing a WAC player that’s been R1 24 times shouldnt be happening at 1800 rating. A majority of the ones I’ve looked up were previously 2.2-2.4k but stuck in the 1600-1900 range with how their mmr system is set

[@enygmazjuanspiracy3156]

@@jacobharris2722 Hard disagree. The only "difficult" part is to stay sane with those crazy things you have to do to get your char decked out. Like wtf are those crafting shenanigans, gems with effects, enchants with another different effects like huh? Just make pvp gear be pvp gear (e.g. making it have resil or some shit) and obtainable within a day of unrated pvp. Also drop conq caps completely and make items cheaper, so that you basically can be decked completely within a few hours give or take

[@cs4mo]

@@enygmazjuanspiracy3156 exactly... pve player do dungeon after dungeon... then they are geared.. then they do mythic after mythic and bam they are upgraded and then mythic plus grind to their high keys as they see fit. and this is all in the first day of the season they have no weekly wait times for their gear... pvp you can get 2 pieces of gear then wait a week. then spend like 80k gold to craft 1-2 pieces that second week. and then the 3rd week you can get 1 piece and potentially your free weapon. its soooo dumb how pvp players have to deal with this nonsense when pve players just get gear constantly throughout the day.

[@guixanyr]

@ They should hire you at blizzard. Honestly i fully agree with you.

[@semmer65]

​@@cs4mo gearing as a PvP'er can be done way faster than that tho im full gear within a week

[@theflyest6595]

They just need to scrap it all and make a WoW 2. Games been the same for 20 years. Needs to be fresh and to the times now

[@memofreire]

I think they're gonna do that after The Last Titan expansion

[@304enjoyer3]

No

[@semmer65]

@@theflyest6595 explain wow 2, and why do people think that just making a different game with the same name is going to work

[@uki8140]

Bullshit😂

[@rhp903]

Love the explanation of turning, well played good sir 😂

[@alexjones519]

I hate the gearing this season. The required crafted gear, embellishments, etc. are LAME.

[@Bhupz777]

Yes!!! It sucks!

[@taffyowen72]

It's main thing that put me off to be fair

[@304enjoyer3]

Huh? Never been so easy. You get BiS PvP gear in 3 days if shuffle, without any rating requirements. Top it up with BiS crafted gear and you’re set. Before you had to grind conquest and rating for 2-3 weeks and spend it all on 1 weapon. Then a piece per week. Are u fkn kidding me rn 😂

[@Dawg93]

It's probably the best gearing has been in a decade

[@uki8140]

​@@304enjoyer3Maybe we wanna buy bis gear from pvp vendor like in old days?

[@Paul-Sapp]

Great PvP view points

[@bah8925]

Blizzard games are expensive and offer low value.

[@driiifter]

The way they've made healing recently, I have no choice but to play Resto Druid. If I'm gonna spam heals the entire time non stop on the entire group while also moving, might as well. I tried Disc and it's fine and everything, but it's mobility is so poor that it trumps all its strengths for me, it's just too detrimental to QoL. Plus they want people to use Ultimate Pen. Have you seen some of the bosses in Floodgate? If you stop moving you literally die lol. UP is completely unusable on one of the bosses. Obviously standing there and spamming Smite for a pet CD is not gonna work anymore. Maybe they can modernize the healers for the dungeon tuning?? Either than or stop tuning the dungeons how they are lol.

[@Godmodebeat]

Why in earlier xpacs there used to be more dungeons and raids, now we get 8 and one mega dungeon. If they added more like they used to I think more people would play again.

[@roberthyde174]

I love the idea of less addons

[@Cyanoblades]

They need to focus on making the game fun to play and not design everything around the 1% turbo nerds

[@paraskamu]

that is good idea that u get base glad mount model like at 2k and higher u get better custom options u get for it.

[@lucassoares6802]

no need to pve to get pvp gear was a huge win, but the need to follow pve changes to understand how it's gonna impact pvp is still an L Spells should be created with a pve and pvp interaction. They only balance % of effect and it´s not working

[@grantjamesgallie]

I have a question, I’m autistic and a lot of stuff is overwhelming for me, I used to play pvp back in MOP, but I had a friend who played with me then so I felt like a god as it was always 2v however many, now he’s gone and I really feel like I’m on my own, I’m scared of pvp now, I so wanna play it but I’m scared in thinking “I’ve built my character up so much over hours upon hours of time, just to lose and be obliterated” what’s your advice on this?

[@304enjoyer3]

Go agane. This is my first PvP season and I have 3k shuffle rounds on my Rogue. In wow PvP the only way to improve is to go again, and again and again for months. It’s a very gradual, slow process

man up

[@DavidCasasMagic]

👏👏

[@supdawgie]

Good ideas supa

[@chriscisneros2230]

Solo shuffle should stay but they 1000% should add a solo queue for rated 3v3 this is litteraly my only complaint about the game i just dont enjoy healing SS😢😢😢

[@chris92like1]

? Shuff is literally solo que 3s

[@304enjoyer3]

lol

[@chriscisneros2230]

@chris92like1 Its not even the same game mode.. I'm not advocating for solo shuffle to go away I just wanna see a solo queue for 3s

[@wernerhaworth4539]

They need to fix the premaid Russian teams in bg's

[@lucasmello1109]

diff day, same old story

[@OldboyGamez]

Player stop playing because game sucks ass, story is shit, pvp is shit, pve is shit, gameplaye is not fun etc. Blizz: here we got new mount new tier design, new pet and new ground speed thing. Players: oh yeah babay blizz listend game is awesome, look at my new shiny pixel art that has not relevance to gameplay what so ever. and the circle never ends

[@jesuscollazo4303]

PVP is dead becouse apparently blizzard does not give a shit I can’t wait for ashes of creation they blow wow out the water that’s a game they balance and make way better then wow . All blizzard titles be gone they said make next 30 years better right

[@DzsRfrmd]

They should make PVP a separate mode, like plunderstorm. Biggest turn off is the barrier to entry for new players. With a PVP game mode, you q up soloshuffle with a gear pre set for example and in a few buttons youre able to play arena without having to gear lvl craft, all that shit

[@semmer65]

I disgree, getting new gear is what makes the game fun for me.

[@DzsRfrmd]

@@semmer65 then pve is for you, pvp on the other hand requires an even playing field

[@semmer65]

@@DzsRfrmd pve is boring and is nothing for me, pvp gear scales to the same item level, and a full pvp set can be bought for 15k on AH. It takes a week to get full geared. Gear is not the problem, its not so hard to follow a guide. Just play some 2v2 arena matches with honor gear and see how fast it goes, seeing your damage go up after gettig new stuff keeps the game rewarding and fun. An MMORPG is built on getting upgrades

you should play another game. What you're asking for is marvel rivals, not an MMO based pvp game with gear progression.

[@AFSKID]

I’ve been saying this for like 15 years but they need to make wow pvp its own thing, no gearing, no pve required, no spending thousands of gold on enhants and gems. I literally only play wow to pvp. Haven’t done a mythic+ since BFA and that was because you had no choice.

Why w2ould you play an MMO without gear progression?? i'm 99% sure ur a bot.

[@dabiun7443]

Ill say it again, we need shadowlands back for pvp , we need thqt dmg , those 1shots, that huge mmr , we just need SL back

[@uki8140]

Systemlands pvp is the reason pvp started dieing. Boosters and buyers everywhere that was good for blizzard tho all of those token sells.

[@dabiun7443]

@uki8140 people like You are the reason why pvp is so bad rn

[@angelguerra7744]

Wow is gonna die soon, game format is so boring

[@DzsRfrmd]

there are still the classic andys playing, that like autoattacking npcs for 16 hours a day

[@taffyowen72]

Me, my son and brother inlaw have recently gone to Classic. We are all pvp players and it's gone down the swanny

[@lunar2328]

If it's so boring then why tf are you here? Do you come to these vids just to piss & moan in the comments? Like why even say anything at all? So pathetic.

[@brandonneifert3199]

Lol I doubt that

[@roywaismann]

I’ve read it since 2012