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[@killian_ve]

Apollo solo is just a Haddix thing, he just thinks it's fun but people copy it because they think it's meta since a pro player is doing it

[@Xflex_fn]

U not wrong lmao, after I see a haddix video drop I see so much random gods in my lane

[@Lalaafastroli]

The speed that smite players copy pro builds is honestly amazing. When I see something weird I lookup haddix and they just copied a build he posted 10min ago…it’s actually nuts

[@Ottocide]

I really like Cthulu Solo in this current meta. All the best items are physical def and so it forces your opponent to switch up their lane build or build the wrong protections for the sake of the passives. It's a nice little advantage.

[@Ignornaceisntbliss]

Yeah Cthulu in average was a shock for me.

[@Ninkavbed]

23:41 btw you can also reduce a tanks prots by around 20-30 with a void shield so essentially you can get up to around 80 protection shred

[@Weak3n]

op

[@Elzzaw]

@@Weak3n Since I didn't play Horus much I didn't realise his 1 counted as a basic, so I've been trying out duality builds on him and I gotta say his burst is nuts. I was trying him with Manikins hidden blade, Trans, Hydras, Heartseeker, Crusher and Duality in the Jungle practice and it shredded everything. Maybe replacing the Crusher with Titan's would be a better idea. Pretty sure you could pull something like this off if it ever took your fancy.

[@blackrravian]

@@Weak3nuory

[@_Moonphases_]

It hurts to see my main (chang'e) go from never picked or banned, to top tier always picked and banned out of nowhere.

[@zingnator]

Anubis also suffers super hard because of pestilence. Pestilence needs a fat nerf due to how it can just absolutely kill any healing based character or build. With the exe glyph, horrific, divine, and tainted all being solid pickups I think the anti heal on pestilence is too overtuned and anti-fun. Anubis instantly procs the 55% antiheal, same with any character with tick dmg, any character who builds bluestone, etc.

[@brandonrains14]

Idk if you’ve played the morrigan lately, but I’ve never been her biggest fan. But her two one poly one shots and it’s super op. I think she’s pretty good

[@OneEyedDopeFiend]

She has the same problem as he bo, shes a mid range mage and other mages just does wat she does better

[@brandonrains14]

@@OneEyedDopeFiend her mid range stuff yes maybe, but her whole kit is you clear with your 2 and then given the opportunity you one shot a squishy and then turn into what is normally a tank and do whatever. I’m in Diamond and it’s nothing crazy. But I do feel she’s a bit under looked at

[@OneEyedDopeFiend]

@@brandonrains14 yea i agree, she definitely flies under the radar and ive been stomped by sum pretty good morrigans (maybe it was u kuz im also diamond 🤭) but i think it prolly boils down to her build and the fact tht her only escape is also her engage which can leave her in a bad spot if u DONT one shot which kan feel pretty bad at times.

[@OneEyedDopeFiend]

@@brandonrains14 but shi ion know much more than u so i kan only assume 🤧

[@jarjargod5127]

@@brandonrains14it’s just too situational. If the enemy team has a chang’e or some other op god you’ll practically be playing them every team fight or you’re trolling.

[@gratifyingjeans9795]

I feel like there’s a few gods in average that should be in good. Examples would be: Rat, Terra, Nu Wa, Serq, Poseidon. Granted, I am in Gold but don’t play a lot of ranked cuz I play with a group. I also do play a few of those Gods so I could have some bias. Rat’s my main and with the added power on his nuts from last patch, he feels really strong early game and is always a threat from any point in the game because of his global ult. I feel like any already decent God that has a global ultimate should deserve a comfy spot in the “good tier”, but that’s just my thoughtsz

[@LeechGoddessV2]

Honestly all fair placements, Me I think, Would put Achilles between Best and Good. But thats just me.

[@kajbaraj2978]

Weak3n in the horus convo I think you misspoke and said protection item instead of pen item. That's why your chat was disagreeing with you because items have 30 prots but not 30 pen

[@nainfuego]

It hurts me seeing you have to explain the horus 2, it is the most simple thing in the world and people cant grasp it.

[@Lalaafastroli]

I actually hate Medusa so much, beyond broken

[@mattgibney4085]

Everyone always has something to say but when you ask them to drop their User they go silent😂

[@Ninkavbed]

13:26 bro said she 💀

[@Goofy_Clown]

So for the morrigan if you can survive early game pressure and hyper farm to endgame you’d be set to frag?

[@radnorio3180]

Yu huang deserves top imo. His lane is oppressive now that you can clear wave and still poke. His ult hits for 2k >30 mins with myrd on top of being a strong self-peel tool. He has the same one shot potential as change but you can do it over walls and without blink. God has been decent since the passive change, but now he’s genuinely broken imo. (Not arguing by any means, I just didn’t want to give an opinion without reasoning)

[@illLucifer]

Change is busted but i think zhong is a better version of her simply due to the fact zhong can delete tanks as well as damage dealers. Where as change seems to struggle against tanks in regards to doing damage against them

[@mrjamezjc9845]

I think people were confusing what you were saying about horus 2 with no item in the game that gives 30 prots of each because you said shredding 30 prots is 2 items worth but you were talking from the perspective of prot shred while they were looking at how many prots are taken away and that being the item value you were referring to, but essentially it does negate an entire tank item which is crazy!

[@somersthesunless1874]

what would it take to get ymir and kumba to a good place?

[@J3ff2424]

Dude Horus goes CRAZY I had a game go late last night and I did 20K damage, 19K healing, and 120K mitigated as support. The enemy team could not kill me even thana was trying to execute me and couldn’t kill me late game. I think I died three times the whole match

[@Weak3n]

horus is nuts

[@MrMtwok]

Do you think Horus has any play outside of the support role? I have been having fun with him out of the jungle

[@Agent_Apostle]

Anyone who thinks change is trash legit doesn’t play smite. To add on to weakens point all her abilities are insta cast and easy to land plus her 1’s cooldown is ridiculously low even in the start of the game

[@wendyssmugness5316]

you honestly carry smite content hi-rez better pay you good

[@Weak3n]

I wish they paid me at all

[@kylerclemans9091]

Him and Inters3ct

[@tristinjeffers450]

I’m not trying to dickride you, Weaken, but yeah this is the truest take there is lol. I stopped playing SMITE after the snow map went away (so maybe 2 years ago?) and I still watch your videos because they’re entertaining and informative.

[@atillathehunt2983]

lol hi-rez ain’t paying him for this lol I wish though

[@aice336]

how do i know for which roles you rate them? like you put amaterasu in A .. so as a support?

[@Weak3n]

The gods main role, unless specified. Ama isn't a support

[@karmak8685]

ye only question was about serq but you made a speech answering it pretty much so 👍🏻

[@aidenhouchin5499]

I'm in lower ranks currently and solo/sup full tank rat with the acorn that gives him 2 uses of his two feels really good do you think it will still be viable once i get into higher ranked matches?

[@OneEyedDopeFiend]

Tbh bruh if ur good enuf u kan make anything work, run void shield and binding and hes kinda like horus

[@jarjargod5127]

I love solo/sup rat, been running it for years. The silver acorn also gives protection shred/steal so you reduce theirs and increase yours. I also recommend the green nut with a full heal build, red totem in solo. Only thing to worry about is how your dash is on such a disgustingly long cooldown and using it to secure a kill puts you way out of position so you can’t escape or peel for your team. If you can hit acorns, it’s busted. If you can’t, your team will flame you.

[@HoytGotDrip]

I think Odin is top 3 Solos when not tank. Build max CD with enough defense to not get 1 shot. You can spam shield to sustain and the leap is incredibly good for engaging and jumping walls. You even get a splash damage stun that instantly clears wave and hits for 500. The ult is the only thing mediocre if the other team has leaps. If they don’t have leap they aren’t winning the 1v1. (2k mmr)

[@YaBoyBigMom]

build?

[@HoytGotDrip]

@@YaBoyBigMom warriors axe, if you have a good matchup go jotuns, if not breastplate. 2nd item I rush hydras for cooldown and the passive pairs with his kit excellent. 3rd serrated if snowballing shifters if not 4th is completely dependent on matchups. If I’m doing very well I’ll go bloodforge into heartseek. If I’m not ill go bauble and counter item like pesti. The idea is spamming shield and leaps to sustain, you 1 shot squishes and have enough defense (and shield) for objective work

[@YaBoyBigMom]

@@HoytGotDrip thanks man 👍

[@amacho1961]

I feel Jorm is good as a solo. Great lane pressure Could you explain

[@justalex459]

I can give a few 1 he can't do camps 2.i don't think he's good in team fights 3.dies to fast since there's alot of hard cc his passive hurts him more then helps.

[@diabolical5199]

He’s gigantic has no cc and no escape unless you ult and it’s insanely hard to ever hit your ult against anyone that has a brain

[@amacho1961]

@@justalex459 you can use starters now to help clear camps.. his ult can get him out of any situation

[@amacho1961]

@@diabolical5199 has a pop up and a movement speed buff

[@KucasTheGreat]

Sylvanus can be very good, but i think he has the Janus problem. A good Sylv is great, and a bad sylv is useless. I'd rather have a more consistent support pick, personally.

[@MrJJ86]

I love Bacchus this patch but I'm biased.

[@cacadoodleable]

What do you think would have to happen to make Cupid just average? I know he sucks but he’s one of my mains.

[@Weak3n]

Better early pressure/lane clear

[@deadbearzzzz]

Mulan in average is criminal

[@Weak3n]

she should be lower

[@justalex459]

Fr​@@Weak3n

[@lilwaterbottle7002]

Honestly an amazing list.

[@maizefulgrace]

What's the build for Skadi? I love playing her, and have been sleeping on her now that she's good.

[@Weak3n]

I like Bluestone(adc)/Bumba(jungle), Jotun's, Arondight, Crusher, Heartseeker, Titans bane. You can not go Arondight and swap in soul eater/hydra's

[@justinloth4273]

Justice for Bakasura, I love that guy

[@atc_evie]

reduction applies before pen

[@michaelwarner3520]

What makes chiron good compared to other ability hunters like neith

[@Weak3n]

safer, more dmg, more sustained dmg, a cc immunity cast, more range, etc

[@gogomike2417]

What is your build for Nox?

[@danthornton8263]

What’s the Medusa build carry

[@lightningtribulation4221]

Would Horus still have viability in the jungle weak3n

[@derpyd3206]

hey weak3n u think in this meta rn heim would work better as a adc or full dmg? also to those who told me that I was wrong about his ult being dog. I FUCKING CALLED IT.

[@slimeking4777]

I play ymir while knowing full well how bad he is because i think he's fun regardless of how bad he is

[@414-Devo]

Erlang build?? Full dmg and hybrid

[@bobbyarmer2250]

@weak3n what mouse pad do you use currently? Do you still use glass mouse pads?

[@Weak3n]

Corsair m75 air(code weak3n) and I use a wallhack sp-004 glass mouse pad

[@bobbyarmer2250]

@@Weak3n thank you for taking time to reply

[@andrewdavidson7962]

good video 👍🏻

[@Revnder]

What would you say you would build on Set? He's my main.

[@Weak3n]

shifters, maybe magi's and then your core jotuns/hydras/serrated

[@Revnder]

@@Weak3n Forgot to ask, what starter I should go?

[@babrams275]

I don’t agree with your bellona pick. I made my own build for bellona and it cooks lol I haven’t lost a game yet. I am in low Elo games though. Maybe higher Elo she is doodoo, idk

[@x1kink260]

Yes Nox's ULT is easy to hit the..... BASTIONS 😂😂

[@ragekage20]

I was waiting for Iza thinking you’d go at least average putting her below average just cause her dash is predictable 😂, has the strongest lane clear of all hunters for 0 mana, tons of free pen, a silence and can poke while clearing waves constantly, but her dash sucks cause it works as almost all other dashes and makes her invis to be able to juke…that sentence doesn’t make sense I feel like I’m being trolled and you’re super picky lmao

[@DJBIGLEX81]

Heimdallr needs to become himdallr again bro

[@Weak3n]

HIMDALLR

[@shewbtoob]

Snaddy has Cthulhu as the best solo in the game, what’s your reasoning for putting him in average?

[@Ignornaceisntbliss]

Snaddy has Cerb and Chaac on his top 5 list as well.

[@Santanner2011]

I havent played since season 8, its time

[@sethhartley504]

Hear me out, not gonna Zeus is above average. Buuuuuuuut to humor my glorious stupidity: sacrificial shroud, chronos pendant, doom orb, typhoons fang, spear of magus, rod of Tahuti. Have fun 1 shooting squishies

[@kaiiz82]

ape escape banger game

[@chriscoss168]

Hey in my gold games I bully with ymir!

[@hdkiller7820]

Pick horus way safer does the same thing

[@hdkiller7820]

Sylv is awesome

[@cocoqtpi]

serqet is so fun for me rn she feels super good

[@maxblanding6949]

Herc hard counters Horus

[@dougcarver3477]

“Alot of these gods are good” proceeds to put them all in average 😂 i think Ix chel should be in good and mulan jungle is definitely back, mostly agree with everything else.

[@Weak3n]

mulan jungle is worthless after 20 minutes and by 'good' in that statement I meant you can play them. Making them average

[@yungleotheartisttt]

They need to buff Belona asap. Been tryna play with her in all modes to test her out and she just loses so many fights, and it’s dumb how bad she loses against other auto attack solo lane warriors too. Example Erlang Shen will cook Belona for sure which there shouldn’t be that big of a gap, but there really is because he’s insane now. Bellona should be able to keep up it’s just sad to see bc she’s so fun to play.

[@Savagehob0]

i love serqet wish she was a little better. keep up the videos

[@xtraplayz7204]

Full damage chaac 1 shots squishies now

[@Weak3n]

build?

[@dougcarver3477]

I wouldnt go full damage. Id go a couple few damage items but its much better to go tank items otherwise. Pink bluestone and his 2 puts him at 300+ protections with the right build

[@jd1217]

The amount of bronze/silver players trying to tell you what your wrong about is crazy to me😂 some of y’all need to just listen lol

[@markcevoli9384]

Cerb stomps rn. So many healing builds going around and he leeches off them and diminishes their benefit. I see more tainted happening this meta and he has it built in. Very strong pressure off rip. His ult starts fights so hard and shuts down any gank attempts in lane. 2 1 follow up and probably a kill. Safe with the three too.

[@spacewhale4384]

nut is soooo underrated, can 1v1 every hunter other than maybe medusa.

[@MegaJawa12]

I noticed people struggle to build her properly

[@justalex459]

She can't do anything else tho

[@spacewhale4384]

@@MegaJawa12 i go into crit fatalis, don’t play ranked but i have like 65% win rate in casuals with her

[@spacewhale4384]

@@MegaJawa12 deaths toll, asi, rage, fatalis, exe, deathbringer

[@kenaigreek4955]

With how bad most ADCs are and how great ability based gods are, Nox is absolutely insane rn, definitely the hardest god to play into imo

[@ita6705]

Full damage khepri one shots squishes now

[@Hayssss]

sac shroud on goobis very under rated imo. you just delete people

[@nn4mz]

Weak! Why you doin my queen Yemoja like that? 👸🏿🥲

[@Weak3n]

you have to play her ults perfectly for her to be top tier imo

[@nn4mz]

@@Weak3n - That’s true. Ult has the greatest impact when there is a wall to put it against, and every clown runs shell when she’s in the game (rightfully so). Thanks for the feedback and all of your hard work 💪🏾