11 Month Old Dart Flights - Final Update On The Cosmo Fit Flight Pro

[@elessard]

I wonder who went full angry swipe and death grip on this destroyed/splitted white Cosmo flight there! Hahaha nice video again, glad a bit of my equipment got in there! Will have to give the Fit Flight Pro a chance, cause regular ones are dying on me way too fast for the price. Also starting to throw more and more with standard Harrows 100 microns flights on Supergrip stems, I like these a lot, punched with Mission lock rings 🎯

[@ronnyhuysmans4120]

I love changing flights , it feels always a little bit like Christmas , broken flights also create a lot of bounce outs ,11 months is a long time they must be very good , thanks for the top tip about the death grip , greetings from Belgium

[@digitalscribbler68]

Have you used the air and regular variations of these flights? The diagonal hatching pattern on the vanes seems weird. And, frankly, they look reminiscent of those cheap molded darts that come with paper dartboards. If I commit to a particular system that's kinda spendy then I would want them to look sleek and flashy.

[@WorldwideDarts]

To be honest I have pretty decent luck with most flights I use. Here's me using $5 Walmart darts... kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaOvm6WGo7h8nqM Honestly though, the biggest thing I can recommend BEFORE committing to a more expensive set up is making sure you eliminate the lip where the point meets the barrel. That lip is going to destroy ANY flights. So either change to a specialty point or use Trident 180 nosecones

[@terrylalley]

I got pro fit flights get on the back of that video last March and they get an hour a day and are still in good nick. I don`t group them as tights as WW but I but my average is around 60. No broken stems either.

[@guyconnelly5]

Almost 32k viewers bud!

[@WorldwideDarts]

Yeah, crazy right? Couple days probably. Maybe tomorrow 😲

[@guyconnelly5]

Am happy for you. You deserve it buddy 👍

[@mikedell3144]

Worldwide; really nice follow-up review. On your recommendation a few months ago I tried the Fit Flight Pro flights (pear shape D3) and short stems. I've installed them on 4 sets of darts so far. I haven't had to change out the flights and no broken shafts to date. But also with on your recommendation I either install a set of Target Storm points or the Trident 180 nose cones; they help alot. BTW; I just received the Alan Glazier darts (24 gram) I ordered from Darts Corner; they're a little short in length, but throw pretty good with my set-up.

[@TangoBinAlsheed]

Molded flights splitting is why a molded flight & stem combo is the way to go. Surprisingly, the Cuesoul AK5's have worked the best for me, they're awesome in every way

[@flatline6076]

What type/model would you recommend for the Patriot X dart?

[@therandompostman8988]

I would now change all 3 flights and bring the one used - who is still good - back into the game if the first flight of the 2nd set breaks. So you always have equally worn flights with similar deformations in use.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Yeah, someone else said that too. Much better idea there. See, that's why I have the best subs. You guys always have the better ideas 👍🏻

[@boof29]

How long did regular flights last for you? I’m trying molded flights but you can buy a lot of regular flights for the price.

[@WorldwideDarts]

I seem to be extremely gentle on my equipment compared to others. Regular flights will last me a really long time as well. Months. The ONLY reason I use Cosmo is because of the shape of flights

[@NeilBradburyTheLimey]

You don't talk about the warping. The pros warp very quickly compared to normal fits (not airs) and it looks like you have warping also. The beauty of molded flights is they stay square. Except when they don't. So I find it's a trade off. Long lasting on the trailing edge so they don't feather, but at the price of warping.

[@WorldwideDarts]

I mentioned it in the review video that the Fit Flight Pro don't warp as easily. After 11 months they only have a slight warp in a couple spots so that's not too bad at all. Of course these flights are tiny so they would be less prone to warp compared to a normal sized flight. The Fit Flight Airs warped terribly. The non air flights are known to tear or split very easily though. It's a trade off I suppose

[@alanmeasures8337]

Love your vid's Man l always use nose cones or flush point's and always take them out 1 at a time always honest and great information Would love it if you could maybe do a vid on the MVG 23gram absolute Cheers from the UK.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Thanks Alan. I've already done the MvG Absolute vid when they first came out. I was the first one to review them. Funny enough I just had the MvG Authentic show up today. review soon 👍🏻

[@alanmeasures8337]

Ok mate will look that up.

[@jamesjohnson8727]

I have not tried these yet. I see them in my future. Great video!

[@WorldwideDarts]

Thanks! 😁

[@DaveSmith-uh7oy]

I got pro fit flight white and thay only lasted 1 month not as good as thay are

[@WorldwideDarts]

Do you have a lip on the front of your darts where the point meets the barrel?

[@johnnybabee9095]

How long have you been playing darts Worldwide? You are damn good!

[@WorldwideDarts]

First tourney was in Nov 1996. It was actually the first time I ever played darts outside of my house. I was one of the highest placing Americans. Phil Taylor won.

[@johnnybabee9095]

@@WorldwideDarts Very Cool!!

[@muddman2006]

What is the name of the flight style you use ive looked on sites and can’t seem to find them

[@WorldwideDarts]

Cosmo Fit Flight Pro V-1 www.dartscorner.co.uk/index.php?cPath=6_996_2934

[@midnightsun7166]

I really thing the the L-Style shaft and flight system is better. I've had the same flights on my darts for over a year. If you have the right dart,"no lip gang". they could last longer. I through every day for one to two hours and they just keep lasting. I've used the fit flights in the past and they rip and tare easily. The thick ones last longer but crack like WW flights did.

[@Camrographer]

I know I'm being superficial here but I wish they made different colors for the pro-flights. They seem like a winner so I'm surprised why cosmo hasn't expanded the color variation. I was actually thinking about dipping my Eight flight flights into some kind of epoxy to reinforce them. I'll let you know if that will actually work. lol

[@donutboy25]

I have storm points. So flights last a while but the grip on my Gary Anderson darts slowly eat away at my flights. I do have fit flights coming sometime tomorrow or Saturday.

[@brianshort5701]

Trident 180 are fantastic, use a 38mm point as specialist points aren't that long and kite flights. Great for protecting your flights and stems. #NoLipGang

[@lewiscfc97]

Love your videos worldwide! Best darts channel on KZbin!!! I’ve recently got back into darts after a few years and love watching your content keep up the great work mate, just out of interest are the shafts you use 35mm the measurements for cosmos stems are different to most

[@gredangeo]

You are definitely rocking those flights hardcore. Cheers to another 10 or so months on your next set. Maybe I should consider a molded set at some point, see how they go. :)

[@CrustyGiantFishFinger]

My Cosmo fit flights are nearly at a year too, still loads of life left in them, and they work perfectly after 2 Robin Hoods. A very good product

[@itz_jho]

hi! what barrel do u use?

[@WorldwideDarts]

Customised One80 Reload

[@ludakast76]

I have 2 sets of fit flight pros and the only damage is a small tear from when I half assed pulled one off to change flights.

[@chrisrobinson7395]

What size stems are these? Intermediate? Keep up the awesome content! ❤️

[@mikewe9842]

Just picked up a set of standard size in these. Love the fit flight standards in black. Can’t wait to try them

[@BadgerBotherer1]

I got the same flights (on your advice!), and they've also lasted for months. I'm using the spinners, which I think may have increased their longevity (I know you don't like spinners!).

[@WorldwideDarts]

I'm curious though... and I ask this of everyone that uses spinners. When you've watched professional darts and see 99.9% of player NOT using spinners over the last 40 years what makes you think they benefit you? And, are you American by chance?

[@BadgerBotherer1]

​@@WorldwideDarts Hi. No, I'm not American! I'm English, but living in Wales, not far the Red Dragon Darts headquarters, so of course I have to use their darts! I've only been playing at all 'seriously' the last couple of years (I'm nowhere near as good as you), but was fed up with flights falling off, stems breaking, etc., so experimented with various cheaper all-in-one systems, both spinners and non-spinners, but was not happy with any of them. Then I bit the bullet about a year ago and (largely on your advice!) bought the Cosmos flights and stems, and have been very happy with them. I went for the spinners because my tests suggested that using the spinners (along with Winmau Freeflo points) slightly extended the life of the flights, when compared to using non-spinners. I've seen your videos where you've said spinners don't offer any benefits in a game with regard to, say, marker darts, and I agree. In some instances the spinners may offer a benefit where the flight moves out of the way for an incoming dart on an awkward double, but then you may miss out on the ability to use a marker to deflect a dart into a double, so it evens itself out with no advantage either way to using spinners. The only reason I use them is because by moving the flight out of the way of a second or third dart there are fewer damaging collisions between tightly-grouped darts, resulting in the (quite expensive in the case of Cosmo) flights lasting longer. Of course, pros have different priorities, but as I'm far from a pro, my priority is prolonging the life of the flights, and in this I believe the spinners offer a slight benefit, which is why I use them, and there is certainly no disadvantage provided the spinners are of good quality like the Cosmos. Sorry for the long-winded response, and hope it makes sense!

[@WorldwideDarts]

@@BadgerBotherer1 Thank you. I appreciate you took the time to answer my question. The recently deceased Larry King had a quote that I really like... "Nothing I say this day will teach me anything. So if I'm going to learn, I must do it by listening." And that's what I like doing. Learning from others and hearing what they have to say. That's the thing in darts... if something works then go with it. There is no right or wrong. But I do feel you glossed over the fact that they have been almost non existent in the past 40 years of televised professional darts. That's a tough one to get around. It's not like we have to world class players. The "proof" is that spinners aren't needed to play world class darts. So if they aren't needed to play on a pro level I can't wrap my head around why they're needed at a lesser level.

[@BadgerBotherer1]

@@WorldwideDarts I didn't say spinners are needed to play better; I said that I think (based on my own tests) they make the flights last slightly longer than without spinners, because you get fewer heavy dart-on-dart connections, with the spinning stems moving the flight away from the incoming point. MY SOLE REASON FOR USING SPINNING STEMS IS TO DO WITH FLIGHT LONGEVITY, NOT BETTER SCORING! I don't know why pros never use them. You could also ask why pros rarely use darts with tapered nose-cones, either built in or the plastic trident 180s, because they would probably get fewer wild deflections, as you say in your videos, and maybe score slightly higher. You could also wonder why pros rarely use all-in-one stems and flights or Cosmo-type setups which would eliminate Robin Hoods. Maybe the average professional dart player is set in their ways, or maybe just not very intelligent (!), and overlook little ways to tinker with their setup that might improve their scoring just a touch. Having very long points (not sure what the maximum length allowed is) would seem to be another way to create more room in the treble 20, but most pros have standard (ish) points. I think the pros ought to look at your channel for suggestions to improve their games! You can't be far off professional standard yourself! Sorry for more long-winded waffle! Keep up the good work, WWD.

[@jeffreymeiman7114]

FYI...the angry swipe is pretty bad on soft tip darts as well. Destroyed 2 HD 150 flights, broke all 3 points is the board AND bent 1 aluminum shaft. Not my best night at the oche to say the least. Thanks for the tips and reviews.

[@WorldwideDarts]

You're welcome. Angry swipe bad 😂

[@isaaclimzh]

I wonder how you all make your flights last . I'm new to this sport, and my flights always split every 1 to 2 days . I use Air previously, and now I changed to pro, and the same issue is still happening .

[@WorldwideDarts]

My flights would last a couple before I switched to specialty points. Once you eliminate the lip where the point meets the barrel your flights will last ages

[@tiborpapp5126]

Hello! Can you tell me what kind of arrow you use in the video? I'm looking for a short heavy set to replace my snakebite 3 black arrows. Thanks!

[@WorldwideDarts]

It's a customised One80 Reload. No longer produced

[@renepedersen156]

Great video! I use the Fit Flight Pro S3 but I can’t get that amount of time out of them! I believe 3-4 month in average is what I get out of them, but the S3s doesn’t have the same shape and they are bigger than the V1s. But I have to say, they are by far the longest lasting flights I’ve used and I think I’ve tried them all.

[@WorldwideDarts]

If i was to guess I would have said the regular sized flights might last 2-3 months. Good to hear you get 3-4 months out of them. 👍🏻

[@boetvanolphen]

I bought trident 180 nosecones a few months ago on your recommendation, those things are perfect! Keep up the great content brother! 🎯🍺

[@WorldwideDarts]

Awesome to hear! Thank you 👍🏻

[@benbeevers1541]

Just started using trident one 80 nose cones. How long do they last before you have to put a fresh set on?

[@WorldwideDarts]

Depends on the length of your points. If you have short points and the darts bury themselves in the board they can get chewed up pretty quick because of them hitting the spider. Longer points and they will last ages.

[@anythinggoes4763]

hello.. I am from the Philippines... this is are newbie questions... I am new to the sport.. what length of shaft and type of flights should I use to replicate your cosmo flight and shaft set up? the Red Dragon Featherlite 5 10g is so hard to find... so, I have decided that I will buy the Designs Ultralite 12g.. there are two versions of it the straight barrel and the scalloped barrel... can you do a comparison which among the two versions in your opinion is much better? I am planning to make a subpar version of your Frankensteins.. also I will use Designs 50mm points.. 66mm is not available here... Do you sell your old dartboard and 12g dart pins that you don't use?

[@WorldwideDarts]

You can find the 66mm points on eBay UK under the name Darts Clearance. I'm not sure if they ship your way though.

[@anythinggoes4763]

@@WorldwideDarts thanks a lot... I will look on it..

[@justinress2782]

I think the small size has a lot to do with it too. Mine didn’t last nearly as long.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Spot on. It plays a HUGE roll in how long they last 👍

[@ryanblake96]

Do you know if darts corner will have a selection of darts on sale this month like they did last month? I'm looking at buying a few bargain sets to try out, but not sure whether to wait for more monthly specials?

[@WorldwideDarts]

Just have to keep checking. They add things all the time

[@ryanblake96]

@@WorldwideDarts Ah cool. I wasn't sure if there was a set day each month. Didn't want to go place an order and then see the darts I've ordered go on sale the next day!

[@daveyjones5702]

youll have an easier time with the focus if you move the camera back and zoom in.

[@WorldwideDarts]

New Sony RX 100 V will take of that

[@daveyjones5702]

@@WorldwideDarts either way it's a handy thing to know about, and this explains it better then i could: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field

[@josephmiller4277]

Thank you for doing these reviews. I have been looking at these & have a few in the cart, is there a place we can get a close up look. They have a lot of sizes in both flights & shafts. A size comparison chart or something on there website possibly? I’ve only used Robson & wonder how their sizes correlate to sizes in normal nylon stems.

[@WorldwideDarts]

I did a review on them back in March 2020. Watch that video because there's a link in the pinned comment for size comparisons

[@josephmiller4277]

@@WorldwideDarts thank you. I will watch it ASAP & give these a try

[@pokerstar2004]

Those points look WAAAY long!

[@WorldwideDarts]

66mm 😲😲

[@pokerstar2004]

@@WorldwideDarts so you can plant them in the board from the oche? Great plan

[@WorldwideDarts]

@@pokerstar2004 Almost 😂

[@pokerstar2004]

@@WorldwideDarts way to use the rules to your advantage

[@johnnievaarning1466]

Have been thinking about the fit flight pro s now you have convinced me to get a set. Oh how about the stems, are they still going strong as well. Only downside is that cosmo is hard to get.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Stems hold up really well as long as you're not playing on a really hard surface

[@ronsprouse7856]

Very impressive wear resistance.

[@SS-Ethan]

what I do is swap all 3 for the fresh look and use the old good one as back up

[@WorldwideDarts]

That's a better idea! 👍🏻

[@SS-Ethan]

@@WorldwideDarts thx man. little bit OCD about the 2 new 1 old flghts. good day!

[@craigrowland5939]

Hi WW what make darts are you using in this vid

[@WorldwideDarts]

Customized One80 Reload. Had them shortened from 56mm to 50.5mm and got rid of the awful ReFlex points. Now weigh 18.9g

[@craigrowland5939]

Thanks going to order some of the designa which you posted a few days ago look fun to play with what length points are they

[@claytonmcdonald9520]

Almost a year. That's a very good lifespan. The setup is most important as you have said.