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11 Warning Signs of Gaslighting in TANGLED

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@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Hey folks, Jonathan here, trying to practice what I preach and accept feedback. Several of you have pointed out that OF COURSE you can cut ties with mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, and other family members for your own safety and emotional health. This is 100% correct. While in some (less extreme) cases of gaslighting one may choose to maintain a family relationship with the gaslighter while calling them out on it and/or holding strong boundaries, that is by no means a "you have to" situation. And sometimes breaking free and cutting off contact is an absolute must. Thank you for calling me on that.
@thegirlatthefrontdesk3519
@thegirlatthefrontdesk3519 4 жыл бұрын
@Taylor Momsen They will never admit it. The best thing to do is educate yourself in private. Start watching KZbin videos on narcissistic behavior. Maybe start saving money in private. Make an exit plan for when you turn 18. I don't know what your situation or the severity but always good to have an exit plan. Always hold on to your reality. Keep a journal to remind yourself of what is true. Gaslighters/ narcissists will always manipulate truth. You may need a reminder of what is true during difficult times. It may seem extreme to many people, so be careful of who you trust. Narcissists are always two faced and often have others fooled. Also know that being a victim of narcissists makes you susceptible to attract other narcissists. I don't know what it is but we attract them like flies to honey (at least some of us do). I read the book Your not crazy it's your mother. It helped a lot. It actually applied to my father as well. Find yourself a support group online. Make sure you seek advice from people who have and are well on their way to recovery. ♡ Best wishes to you.
@thegirlatthefrontdesk3519
@thegirlatthefrontdesk3519 4 жыл бұрын
@Taylor Momsen Michelle Lee Nieves, Angie Atkinson are a couple of KZbinrs who have taught me a lot.
@nellibob
@nellibob 4 жыл бұрын
My mum hit all the points for gaslighting and as of February I permanently cut ties, after various failed attempts to set boundaries, get her to see what she was doing, get her to therapy for her numerous mental health problems etc. Tangled really resonates with me. And one thing I think that the film touches on but could do with more attention is trying to learn who you are when you’re not being manipulated, what things you like to do and what you were only doing to please someone else.
@thegirlatthefrontdesk3519
@thegirlatthefrontdesk3519 4 жыл бұрын
@@nellibob Glad you made it out. I also had to go no contact. Unfortunately my three adult brothers are still under the sick spell of our mother and I've had to drop them too.
@alexcramer2914
@alexcramer2914 4 жыл бұрын
How can you tell if you're being gaslit, or if what they're saying is actually true? Especially if third parties can't directly see the situation?
@kyonaerinphwa3032
@kyonaerinphwa3032 4 жыл бұрын
"Did I mumble, mother?" Is the best and most badass line from tangled.
@hibikiotonokojishslvocalis7550
@hibikiotonokojishslvocalis7550 4 жыл бұрын
She's literally going *"DID I STUTTER?"* And it was iconic
@characterdevelopment8504
@characterdevelopment8504 4 жыл бұрын
@@hibikiotonokojishslvocalis7550 completely iconic
@jokingbanana1042
@jokingbanana1042 4 жыл бұрын
@@hibikiotonokojishslvocalis7550 aaaaahhh dr fan :)
@tiffanypersaud3518
@tiffanypersaud3518 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yes.
@isabelle769
@isabelle769 4 жыл бұрын
I get chills everytime at this part
@rashmipatel1487
@rashmipatel1487 3 жыл бұрын
ok is no one gonna talk about how badass the “did i mumble mother” is. it’s literally the disney princess version of “did i stutter bitch”
@Cosmic.Fortuna
@Cosmic.Fortuna 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my God. Yes!
@christerjackson9589
@christerjackson9589 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you put a dot in the middle? Pretty sure a "," would fit better, also there are no other dots at the end, u don't even have a capital letter in the beginning of a sentence, and the I's that refer to a yourself should be capital letters too... I just needed to say that tbh.
@royal3809
@royal3809 3 жыл бұрын
@@christerjackson9589 you know people can make mistakes or misclicks when typing, right?
@fallingpetunias9046
@fallingpetunias9046 3 жыл бұрын
@@christerjackson9589 This better be primo bait, because you're not even correct. If we're going to nitpick people's grammar on the internet, it should've been a question mark after "is" and those little "dots" you speak of are called "periods". Ignoring all of that, correcting the grammar of internet comments where the OP's intention is perfectly clear doesn't matter, but I'm procrastinating and you've supplied me a wonderful outlet.
@christerjackson9589
@christerjackson9589 3 жыл бұрын
@@fallingpetunias9046 it was a joke gez
@nooffencebut8175
@nooffencebut8175 4 жыл бұрын
Mother gothel actually teaches kids a lesson, kids see so much physical violence in movies that they are never taught about the mental, and won’t know if it’s normal.
@nooffencebut8175
@nooffencebut8175 4 жыл бұрын
@No offense, but wow wtf you are literally me but spelt wrong
@reynakajino2952
@reynakajino2952 4 жыл бұрын
@@nooffencebut8175 uh, actually offense is the correct spelling in the US. no wait, it's just more commonly used
@ΣκοτώνωΧαρά
@ΣκοτώνωΧαρά 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe not all kids but hopefully some.
@phant0m0th_
@phant0m0th_ 4 жыл бұрын
You ever notice a lot of the parents are actually mentally, emotionally and physically abusive? Especially in Disney...
@maryumgardner5958
@maryumgardner5958 4 жыл бұрын
@@phant0m0th_ Like the "Little Mermaid" for instance
@matthewmitchell8477
@matthewmitchell8477 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even realize Flynn brushing Rapunzel's hair away having such symbolic importance. It makes the movie even better imo
@roxanelvgsch
@roxanelvgsch Жыл бұрын
I know, I love this so much!!!
@bakatoaster6000-yt
@bakatoaster6000-yt Жыл бұрын
Fr
@Randomowl1
@Randomowl1 Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that he's the one to cut most of her hair off at the end to protect her.
@pixelzebra8440
@pixelzebra8440 Жыл бұрын
I had one of those “OHHHH” moments when they said that LMFAOOO Also I never realized Gotham only caring about the hair pushed over to the physical affection aspect too
@Fitingbros101
@Fitingbros101 9 ай бұрын
There are no mistakes in art (unless its made by an amateur which this isn’t obviously)
@alethearia
@alethearia 4 жыл бұрын
Best advice my therapist ever gave me: Just because you love someone does not mean they have earned your vulnerability
@yanelisroman2807
@yanelisroman2807 4 жыл бұрын
Very true
@donnaquixote7538
@donnaquixote7538 4 жыл бұрын
Well said by your therapist. That's what makes love so hard, whether it's romantic or platonic. After you've been vulnerable with someone who you loved but treated you badly, it's difficult to be vulnerable with another person. 🤔
@reasonlessguru3724
@reasonlessguru3724 4 жыл бұрын
I wish there was something higher than a "like" button for this comment.
@plumtucker9514
@plumtucker9514 4 жыл бұрын
I've tried to explain this concept to the current bf. explaining it this way might help, thanks.
@christinarose3254
@christinarose3254 4 жыл бұрын
How does one earn another's vulnerability?
@edpotter1170
@edpotter1170 4 жыл бұрын
the sarcastic "Rapunzel knows best. Rapunzel's so mature now" is the line that made me feel the worst. You know, when you feel like you achieved something that made you feel happy and proud of yourself, and other people just go "oh wow so impressive" with such flat mocking tone... that just cancels out your excitement about the thing that made you happy.
@lovecatsniyumi7732
@lovecatsniyumi7732 4 жыл бұрын
Both of my parents did this to me some days ago. It's the worst fucking feeling. They told me I was naive for believing the internet, when I told them my sources they were like "Oh really? Source of what must that be" they didn't believed me, told me I was naive, told me I was dumb, told me I wasn't going to go anywhere thinking like that, doubted my intelligence, etc. You know what did they do after that? Oh they started treating me like a princess, saying how much they loved me (after putting me the fuck down) and how they cared about me (after completely ignoring what I had to say) I will get out of this house, because I can't stand this behavior anymore. I'm broken and all I fought to leave in the past is back in my present because of them.
@azaleyalikedaflowr7975
@azaleyalikedaflowr7975 4 жыл бұрын
I know this isn’t on the same level in anyway in regards to emotional trauma. But also whenever your laughing about something or find something funny and someone just has to take your joy away by saying “it’s not that funny”. That really gets on my nerves I actually hate that so much. Just let them laugh, they found it funny! Let them have the joy of laughing. If you don’t find it funny than don’t laugh and keep your mouth shut🙄 gotta steal someone else’s joy, for what?
@ew8381
@ew8381 4 жыл бұрын
and when u draw something and are really proud of it and your parent comes and goes “wooow,cu think u can draw”
@mearabaxter8997
@mearabaxter8997 4 жыл бұрын
@@azaleyalikedaflowr7975 OMG people do that to me all the time so now whenever I laugh I say sorry as a reflex. even if its just something that popped into my head I chuckle at myself then say sorry. its weird. But then again my chuckle sounds like and evil laugh so maybe that's why they look at me lol.
@azaleyalikedaflowr7975
@azaleyalikedaflowr7975 4 жыл бұрын
@@mearabaxter8997 yeah, it sucks😔 and really upsets me too.
@songbird6414
@songbird6414 4 жыл бұрын
“I love you most Don’t forget it You’ll regret it” Absolutely terrifying in context
@sarakjeldsen769
@sarakjeldsen769 4 жыл бұрын
"I love you more" always creeped me out.
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 4 жыл бұрын
Tangled should be used to teach what to look out for to protect yourself from narcissists.
@hollylhunt
@hollylhunt 3 жыл бұрын
@@hariman7727 i have a theory that you can diagnose trauma and mental illness using only pixar & disney films. I have yet to be proved wrong lol
@NoticeMeSenpaiii
@NoticeMeSenpaiii 3 жыл бұрын
@@hollylhunt what films do you think are good examples?
@starluna03
@starluna03 3 жыл бұрын
Tangled: the emotional abusical
@DylanDoesRealEstate
@DylanDoesRealEstate Жыл бұрын
I think the imagery from "Mother Knows Best" Where Gothel litteraly puts Rapunzel in the dark, and as Rapunzel lights candles, Gothel puts them out, LITERALLY keeping her in the dark. Very on the nose, but still powerfull.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was just Gothel sabotaging Rapunzel to make sure Rapunzel is dependent on her.
@sesh-go8vv
@sesh-go8vv 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956yeah that’s kind of like exactly what they just said. like that’s literally the exact thing that they just stated. like you’re not introducing anything new here at all lol
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 10 ай бұрын
Also, Gothel dumped Cassandra.
@Nala15-Artist
@Nala15-Artist 4 жыл бұрын
"Villains that twirl their mustaches are easy to spot. Those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well camouflaged." ~Jean-Luc Picard~
@Joe_334
@Joe_334 4 жыл бұрын
Now I have to go watch the International Coffee Sketch from MADtv... Lol
@eririan_
@eririan_ 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen a real life villain twirl their moustache though?
@artloverivy
@artloverivy 4 жыл бұрын
@@eririan_ It’s figurative for people who commit evil shamelessly, mostly people in positions of power
@rainwilson4036
@rainwilson4036 4 жыл бұрын
@@eririan_ I mean......Lord Licorice
@TheOnlyBiodude
@TheOnlyBiodude 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 14, new to the this world and that is soo deep.
@lalupa4681
@lalupa4681 4 жыл бұрын
Mother Gothel is one of the scariest Disney villains because she is the most real. She could be a parent, aunt, uncle, friend, etc.
@cryofpaine
@cryofpaine 4 жыл бұрын
A president.
@rianuhh
@rianuhh 4 жыл бұрын
she’s my mom bruh 🥲
@hopeslover6778
@hopeslover6778 4 жыл бұрын
Eh, the hunchback of notre dames antagonist could give her a run for her money. that man *scares* me.
@kool-aidsprinkles6543
@kool-aidsprinkles6543 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated
@nikitawoslan
@nikitawoslan 4 жыл бұрын
And Gaston
@jade_ottsel
@jade_ottsel 4 жыл бұрын
And this is why it drives me up a wall every time someone goes "But I'm sure Mother Gothel loved Rapunzel deep down!" *facepalm*
@maclikescartoons
@maclikescartoons 4 жыл бұрын
If she ever did she'd realize how terribly she is and bring her back to her actual parents
@Donnetellotheturtle.
@Donnetellotheturtle. 4 жыл бұрын
EVEN IF SHE DID HER ACTIONS WERE HORRIFIC AND HER WANT FOR ETERNAL YOUTH AND KEEPING RAPUNZEL TRAPPED OUTWEIGH ANY LOVE GOTHEL HAD
@IMayOrMayHaveNot
@IMayOrMayHaveNot 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, loving your kidnapped child by locking her up in a tower for 18 years, all the while manipulating her into staying there through emotional blackmailing and then calling it love because "she meant well" when all Gothel says and does is just a means to keep Rapunzel under her control through fear, guilt, and the destruction of her self-confidence. I guess admitting to Gothel's shitty behavior would hit too close to home for them, so they pretend not to see it.
@Linnzy
@Linnzy 4 жыл бұрын
It get even worse when you watch Tangled the series and learn more about Gothel.
@annachan8151
@annachan8151 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah she loved her alright! just like the flower she loved using her. Rapunzel wasn't a person to her, she saw Rapunzel as an object.
@sima7069
@sima7069 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching Tangled in 4th grade and thinking “Wow! Rapunzel’s mother reminds of my mom a lot!” Fast forward to few years later, me leaving the house in order to escape constant mental abuse. I believe this movie was one of the first tiny steps on my way to realising the wrongs my mother did to me.
@CuteCuteJames
@CuteCuteJames 2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely wonder how many thousands of kids and former kids had the same experience.
@Anonymous99816
@Anonymous99816 2 жыл бұрын
@@CuteCuteJames yeah me too, gothel reminded me of my mum because she was a liar and a constant degrader
@Tiiitoooo
@Tiiitoooo 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad you left congrats on leaving the toxicity
@Jarod-vg9wq
@Jarod-vg9wq 2 жыл бұрын
Hope your found a better home you ok?
@drunkydrunk2351
@drunkydrunk2351 Жыл бұрын
Wow.... How old are you that time..? When you escaped..?
@MyMooha
@MyMooha 4 жыл бұрын
It's sad that they didn't mention Pascal as "another voice," who was trying all along to get her out of the abuse but didn't have the proper voice to do so.
@Chikin1ninjas
@Chikin1ninjas 4 жыл бұрын
Oh cool! Maybe he represents a subconscious voice within herself that desires freedom, but that’s not yet strong or articulate enough to voice his desires and motivate Rapunzel to leave her situation. When he points eagerly towards the open world, she shrugs and responds that it’s not so bad in the prison.
@cabaztia9964
@cabaztia9964 4 жыл бұрын
Little pascal tried to help rapunzel but he didn’t have the proper voice to do so... omg that’s so adorable and heartbreaking at the same time 😭💕
@mystichikari4544
@mystichikari4544 4 жыл бұрын
Pascal was the support she had throughout those years. Even though he doesn't have the proper voice to express himself, his presence and interactions with Rapunzel was a vital help for her. 🥺💞
@thatdemon_overthere
@thatdemon_overthere 4 жыл бұрын
I think...... I will never look at this movie the same way again😳
@sunflower-vm6xg
@sunflower-vm6xg 4 жыл бұрын
He is a frog . .
@cassia_0428
@cassia_0428 4 жыл бұрын
People say that mother gothel wasn’t actually a bad villain but they don’t realize how much mental and psychological damage she did to Rapunzel
@aquilaaltaire
@aquilaaltaire 4 жыл бұрын
It's really concerning that people think a villain is someone who intentionally and blatantly hurts you, poisons you, or kills you. But mother gothel is not a traditional Disney villain. Her agenda is cloaked under the guise of being a mom who does everything for you, which is why it confuses people. They don't want to accept that mother figures can be the villain while masking their strategy with good deeds.
@RequiemPoete
@RequiemPoete 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because many of them are victims of this exact kind of abuse. It's their normal.
@lilliesinthegard32
@lilliesinthegard32 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I used to think she was actually nice and not that bad of a person because she "gave Rapunzel a home and raised her like her daughter instead of treating her like a slave" until I realized my mom was very similar to her...
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 4 жыл бұрын
That’s because MoTHeRs cAn’T bE AbuSiVE
@cassia_0428
@cassia_0428 4 жыл бұрын
@@lilliesinthegard32 whoa bro are u living my life or sumn???
@Fireheartl
@Fireheartl 4 жыл бұрын
"There's a difference between love and trust." Holy crap I---
@armyshope
@armyshope 4 жыл бұрын
Eh I just read the comment when they said that Syncronicity
@unchartedraider7547
@unchartedraider7547 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. Learned that the hard way.
@millenaalves765
@millenaalves765 4 жыл бұрын
But love doesn't involve trust?
@non-binary2286
@non-binary2286 4 жыл бұрын
@@millenaalves765 nope i can love someone without trusting them i love the person but I don't trust the things that this person says because: tust issues
@cbalan777
@cbalan777 4 жыл бұрын
@@non-binary2286 How do you know that's not just infatuation, or familiarity? Love does seem to imply some level of trust
@Alexa-xl1gi
@Alexa-xl1gi 2 жыл бұрын
I was watching Tangled for the first time in years and I got chills when I heard her say “great, now I’m the bad guy” because it’s the exact thing my own mother has said to me a million times.
@KittyCatGirl-br9sx
@KittyCatGirl-br9sx Жыл бұрын
Really? That’s so creepy… was your mom saying it about something serious, or something silly like you wanted new shoes?
@m00dyalien
@m00dyalien Жыл бұрын
same, my mom always said that
@carlygirl306
@carlygirl306 Жыл бұрын
Same, it reminds me of my dad. When we get in fights, he will say "Now I'm the bad guy" making me feel like it's my fault. I know this isn't true
@discordlexia2429
@discordlexia2429 Жыл бұрын
Mother Gothel... Not just the way she acts, but she even *looks* like my mum... I didn't realise she was a villain at all the first time until near the end because "That's all just normal mum stuff".
@wildfire9280
@wildfire9280 Жыл бұрын
@@carlygirl306 that’s so frustrating when they’re doing the exact thing in the very exact moment they claim *you’re* doing it
@Hi-vf9wx
@Hi-vf9wx 4 жыл бұрын
The "stop mumbling" scene is so frustrating, hiding a critic behind a joke, I hate when people do that
@aurorahufflepuff375
@aurorahufflepuff375 4 жыл бұрын
time stamps?
@catcher881
@catcher881 4 жыл бұрын
@@aurorahufflepuff375 13:14
@PurtyPurple
@PurtyPurple 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, and this gives the abuser "plausible" deniability so they can say it was just a joke and further put down the victim for reacting in an appropriately upset way. I put plausible in quotes because to an outside perspective who hasn't been manipulated by the abuser, it seems ridiculous and transparent.
@marchforth3515
@marchforth3515 4 жыл бұрын
I had an old best friend who always did that to me in middle and some high school. I felt like I was the only one who saw the abuse but it wasn’t very obvious. I’ve even tried describing it and gotten told “that doesn’t sound that bad”
@TunaPetunia456
@TunaPetunia456 4 жыл бұрын
Ugh I actually hate that. Someone that I "used" to call a "friend" did something similar to me and well several other people. For me they told me to stop making them the bad guy while they do the opposite and make me look like the bad guy. My other close friend, they made fun of her for something that wasn't even a big deal and that honestly hurt my friend deeply. My other friend who dated them, she kept telling lies that they weren't doing this and that but the signs were there. My ex did the same thing to me as well but it was a bit different from my second ex (I honestly don't even consider calling my second ex like an actual relationship because of how fake it seemed). So I've dated two gaslighters and those months have been nothing but Hell for me and several others. They date each other still and honestly I feel disgusted but hey, at least both of them have something in common aye? And the sad thing is, she has a best friend that she's known for years and I feel bad for her because she might be going through that but maybe I'm thinking too hard on it ._.
@RainbowEssence-c3w
@RainbowEssence-c3w 4 жыл бұрын
Writer: How many different kinds of gaslighting should we include in this film? Director: Yes
@CaptainProjects
@CaptainProjects 4 жыл бұрын
Turn it up to 11!
@unchartedraider7547
@unchartedraider7547 4 жыл бұрын
Director : Every damn gaslighting techniques we have in store. Writer : So...We talk to any employer. Director : Basically.
@Abby-yx4ff
@Abby-yx4ff 4 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainProjects Spinal Tap!!!! 🤘
@dancingheart6224
@dancingheart6224 4 жыл бұрын
They wanna be thorough by making sure we see all the signs so we don't end up staying in a situation with an abusive person.
@Fronkador
@Fronkador 4 жыл бұрын
My mom is like this and does all 11
@cospaws8810
@cospaws8810 4 жыл бұрын
I love that they cut to Rapunzel reaching out to Mother Gothel as she falls and dies. An abusive relationship like she had with Mother is still ripe with enough fake love that despite everything, part of Rapunzle still doesn’t want her ‘mother’ to die.
@warriormaiden9829
@warriormaiden9829 4 жыл бұрын
For me, that's one of the worst parts of being on the receiving end of this kind of relationship. You're confused, and hurt, but you still care about the person that's causing you the misery. And because they have spent all this time making you not trust yourself and your own judgment, you are left wondering why you still care for them. 'Were they really that bad of a person?' 'Because I love and care for them, does that mean that I took part in my own abuse?' 'Am I a bad person for loving them?' 'Even though I know they were a bad person, and I finally realized what was happening to me, how can I trust anyone now that they are no longer in my life?' That knee-jerk reaction of saving the person is instinctive, because you love them. And the worst part is, by saving them, it opens the way for them to continue to be in your life. 'You saved me, you really do love me, you can't live without me.' The hardest thing is to stand by and watch them flounder and sink in the problem of their own making. But often it's necessary. Because if you help them, you may never be rid of them.
@nikkohimari
@nikkohimari 4 жыл бұрын
@Cospaws completely unrelated comment but I Love your pfp it’s so cute!
@jamien.5528
@jamien.5528 4 жыл бұрын
@@warriormaiden9829 Thank you. I needed that reality check
@cospaws8810
@cospaws8810 4 жыл бұрын
@@nikkohimari Thanks, got it from picrew
@ame-chan579
@ame-chan579 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that just human decency tho? I mean, I have also been abused by my family too but I wouldn't like to see them dying in front of me too
@abigialgregory9235
@abigialgregory9235 2 жыл бұрын
You guys have officially helped me avoid at least one potentially toxic dating relationship...so thank you!
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@Irondragon1945
@Irondragon1945 10 ай бұрын
you obviously dont have to answer, what exactly tipped you off?
@davidstone281
@davidstone281 4 жыл бұрын
This analysis just proves even more why Gothel is the darkest of all the Disney Villains. Which is why she remains my favorite.
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. So, so well-written. We hate her, but then that's the point.
@lindseysquire8417
@lindseysquire8417 4 жыл бұрын
The only ones who come close, in my opinion, are Scar and Claude Frollo. They have very similar relationships with Simba and Quasimodo, respectively. It's terrifying.
@unvoicedapollo3318
@unvoicedapollo3318 4 жыл бұрын
@Starlight_Feather Meh. Maleficent is just an angry fairy upset about not being invited to a christening. Gothel is a criminal manipulator who reflects re-world abusers.
@erdemkara4143
@erdemkara4143 4 жыл бұрын
Darkest? How many Disney movies have you seen actually? Most realistic is probably the word you're looking for... Even that's not the case, because Claude Frollo and Lady Tremaine are equally real...
@mackaylacook148
@mackaylacook148 4 жыл бұрын
@@lindseysquire8417 agreed
@psalms3-3
@psalms3-3 3 жыл бұрын
The scene where mother gothel is putting out candle after candle that rapunzel tries to light to see is a very powerful visual metaphor
@pragya1833
@pragya1833 3 жыл бұрын
Metaphor for what?
@mysticalqueenofwanda202
@mysticalqueenofwanda202 3 жыл бұрын
@@pragya1833 Rapunzel is lighting her own way through the dark but behind her back, her mother took out her light. Whether it’s Rapunzel’s light inside her or the light that she uses to find her path
@emmaleeredden9553
@emmaleeredden9553 3 жыл бұрын
Like Ashley said, she’s literally and figuratively extinguishing Rapunzel’s light. What is light? It helps us see. It allows growth. Rapunzel would be the personification of good (light); Mother personifies evil (darkness).
@wooyngsgf
@wooyngsgf 3 жыл бұрын
@@pragya1833 i like to think the light from the candles is a metaphor for rapunzel “seeing” the truth behind the darkness of mother gothel’s lies, while mother gothel continually putting out the light from the candles symbolizes how she wants to keep her from seeing the truth and continuing to gaslight her
@eduardon9299
@eduardon9299 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Light is a recurrent theme in Tangled. Rapunzel's happy, youthful and positive personality, her pink/light purple dress, her big vivid green eyes and her golden shining hair represent light, mainly the life-giving light of the sun (since she's literally a personification of the sun, with its magic within her body). Mother Gothel on the other hand is totally dark, wearing a dark red dress and having deadly pale skin, dull grey eyes and jet black hair. That's because she's (metaphorically) the devouring darkness who selfishly swallows and hides the light, since she keeps the magic flower only for herself, and later she does the same with Rapunzel, keeping her as a prisoner in the tower. Also the light of the golden lanterns set by the king and the queen (Rapunzel's real parents) are warm and yellow, representing their love for their daughter, while Gothel's lantern is sickly green: a cold, dead light, since she has no real love for Rapunzel, and only loves what she can do for her (keeping her young through the powers of her magic hair).
@auroras7131
@auroras7131 3 жыл бұрын
And the "stop mumbling blabla, I'm just teasing you, you're adorable" SOOO REALISTIC
@gennybetwana9620
@gennybetwana9620 3 жыл бұрын
please explain this more because me and my friends do these all the time s a joke
@LucaGlitchy
@LucaGlitchy 3 жыл бұрын
My mom does that when I stutter
@fahrifarizan2338
@fahrifarizan2338 3 жыл бұрын
@@gennybetwana9620 if the person you talk to literally look upset and doesn't seem to like it
@chajang7292
@chajang7292 3 жыл бұрын
@@gennybetwana9620 It's like a back-handed compliment.
@gennybetwana9620
@gennybetwana9620 3 жыл бұрын
@@fahrifarizan2338 1. thank you for explaining 2. but what if they know how to hide their emotions because they think we make fun for being "senistive"
@weresofansie1457
@weresofansie1457 Жыл бұрын
Disney needs to remember mother gothel because it’s proof they can do great, non-twist villains that are still realistic.
@giantpinkcat
@giantpinkcat 9 ай бұрын
I'm not trying to defend Disney but I don't think they've even done a twist villain in 5-7 YEARS.
@maplehockeylove6339
@maplehockeylove6339 4 жыл бұрын
This movie made approximately half of an entire generation glance discreetly at their parents in the theater
@jujuorelus9206
@jujuorelus9206 3 жыл бұрын
I literally just thought about how my mother could possibly be gaslighting me my entire life and I just noticed this at an adult age 😀
@stringtheories9820
@stringtheories9820 3 жыл бұрын
This song is about my mom, for sure
@lesbiangoddess290
@lesbiangoddess290 3 жыл бұрын
This spoke to my foster parents. It's insane how many parallels I could make to my own childhood.
@isaactate9853
@isaactate9853 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and the funny thing for me is that Gothel looks almost exactly like a slimmer version of my mother, even down to the slight graying we see as the film progresses. It really was like a psychological sledgehammer to my perception of reality.
@pastaslut
@pastaslut 3 жыл бұрын
PLSSSSSSSUCCUFUIGVIIH
@ventusxzephyr13
@ventusxzephyr13 4 жыл бұрын
Tangled. The movie that helped a generation to ask. "...Wait, this behavior isn't normal?"
@lucyandecember2843
@lucyandecember2843 4 жыл бұрын
truly lmao
@CLBOO6
@CLBOO6 4 жыл бұрын
LOL exactly! Yes!
@PmpknHead
@PmpknHead 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, I saw it when I was younger and my mom told me to listen to Mother Knows Best and how it was true and I should listen to my mom.
@RoseTintedPath
@RoseTintedPath 4 жыл бұрын
YES
@Suchwerewolf
@Suchwerewolf 4 жыл бұрын
*slams like button*
@LadyEvilest
@LadyEvilest 4 жыл бұрын
Notice that when Gothel says "I love you most" she kisses Rapunzel's hair. That's what she really loves.
@daneebeumers6630
@daneebeumers6630 4 жыл бұрын
Also later when she says: ''I was so worried about you dear.'' She looks at Rapunzel's hair and then quickly looks at Rapunzel to not show what she really cares about: her hair.
@spectralquill1810
@spectralquill1810 4 жыл бұрын
I thought of this too. Her only goal in life is to keep being alive and do the same routine all over again. How pathetically sad.
@alexisgrunden1556
@alexisgrunden1556 4 жыл бұрын
If you watch carefully, you'll see she almost never touches Rapunzel herself if she can help it. A tiny bit here and there, mostly to maintain her facade, but she shuns physical contact with her; the only part of Rapunzel she'll willingly touch is what she values, her hair. The way she constantly tore Rapunzel down, shredded her confidence, insisted she wasn't capable; I hope to God any kid with a narcissistic parent or family member watched this and learned from it. Emotional abuse is still abuse.
@starrsmith3810
@starrsmith3810 4 жыл бұрын
That and her and Finn are a lot different about Rapunzel hair. Finn pushed it out of her face. Gothel always petted it like it was a damn puppy. That and they’re reactions. All he did was freak out a bit and then it didn’t even phase him. Not to mention cutting her off to prevent her from being trapped by Gothel, risking his own life.
@carmenmercedes9903
@carmenmercedes9903 4 жыл бұрын
And she calls Raps "My flower"
@cami4CYeshua787
@cami4CYeshua787 2 жыл бұрын
My stepmom did this to me for five years before I finally turned eighteen and found a place to rent from one of my high school teachers. My now husband would try to explain to me why I wasn’t as bad as she implied and that she was manipulating me and it took literally years to break free. I keep a healthy distance from her now.
@NerdyCatCoffeeee
@NerdyCatCoffeeee 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that distance comes with an additional 6 ft below ground
@Webbgurl2000
@Webbgurl2000 2 жыл бұрын
Stay FREE!!!
@drunkydrunk2351
@drunkydrunk2351 Жыл бұрын
Aww. That's very nice and lucky of you
@mcgaggie1442
@mcgaggie1442 Жыл бұрын
See my dad did this to me for my whole life, and now I gaslight people I love and I’m realizing just now that- AHHH-
@Martha-w7w9b
@Martha-w7w9b Жыл бұрын
That teacher of yours became your husband??💀
@beeb2733
@beeb2733 3 жыл бұрын
May I just say how much I appreciate that before Gothel died, she completely forgot Rapunzel and Eugene and went straight to the mirror instead. Narcissism at its finest. Brilliant.
@Bee-kv5tx
@Bee-kv5tx 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow I never even thought of it like that! But that makes so much sense..
@marallenrondez2606
@marallenrondez2606 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm.. yeah didn't notice that at first but it does makes sense. Also, she probably knew what would happened if the hair would be cut. Her anger towards Rapunzel and Eugene turns into despair before she turns to dust.
@michaelpapageorgious5053
@michaelpapageorgious5053 3 жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for gothel, she was just petrified of death. She didn't want to die and was doing all she could to delay that. I don't think she deserved to die, she should have just gave gothel the immortality she wanted and their relationship would get mended. Imagine if someone was the only thing keeping you alive, would you lie to them to keep living or would you tell them the truth so you can age rapidly and perish...
@valeriamarquez4114
@valeriamarquez4114 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelpapageorgious5053 I don't think that's the case at all. It may have started as an innocent fear of death, but it literally led her to kidnapping a child and holding her hostage through awful means of manipulation. She put her through endless psychological torment. It's not a question about whether she deserved death because everyone dies. Allowing her to live forever was not going to change who she is as a person.
@michaelpapageorgious5053
@michaelpapageorgious5053 3 жыл бұрын
@@valeriamarquez4114 There's nothing innocent about being petrified of death. In this case, the solution to avoid it was using someone. If someone put a gun to your head and told you to kidnap someones child, you would do it. You wouldn't want the person to blow your brains out. In this case, death was holding the gun to her head.
@hannahep5148
@hannahep5148 4 жыл бұрын
the hardest part about gaslighting is that you cant get your gas lighter to admit theyre gas lighting. then all the doubt in youre head keeps you stuck because you feel like its something you have to prove. you are embarassed to have fallen for it and there is literally no way to prove it.
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
It's so true. The only way is to see it for what it is and choose to let go of needing them to see it or admit it. You can still want them to, you can still try. But you can't wait for them to own it to move on with your own healing.
@DeathKitta
@DeathKitta 4 жыл бұрын
Or when you more or less starting to realise that you are actually still right but the gaslighter still won't admit it and keep making you believe that you are the one who at fault which brings so much painful frustration. And will turn it around as if yours behaviour've gotten worse so you are the bratty one, because you started to stop tolerating this things. Since you wasn't angry or upset about thems before, that means now you make them up and upset/angry for no reason, and just keep picking a fight and ruin the day for both of them.
@lasrber
@lasrber 4 жыл бұрын
I would argue that the hardest part, is recognizing you're being gaslighted. It's so easy to make excuses. 'Sure, anyone else in this situation, it would be abuse, but for us, it's just how we are! It's love really, they're trying to help me, I should do better. I mean, they didn't mean it that way, I'm just being ridiculous' it's incredibly hard to get through to someone once their own mind is their gaslighters defender.
@TheGalaxyMermaid
@TheGalaxyMermaid 4 жыл бұрын
I think I honestly got "lucky" to get my gas lighter to admit they were gaslighting me. When I confronted my ex about using that manipulative tactic that she had said to me, "Did you know that I almost killed myself by swallowing a bunch of pills because I thought you were going to break up with me?" Well, she denied that she ever said that and then said, "That's not what I said, you misunderstood me. What I actually said was that I tried to commit suicide by swallowing a bunch of pills when I was with my ex because I found out she cheated on me." I screamed at her, "Are you serious?! You going to try to gaslight me again?! I clearly remember you say..." And I went rambling on in panic because part of me was afraid that maybe I'm wrong and my memory is faulty. But she then said, "Fine. I admit." But tried to put the blame on me saying that it was my fault that I got her to manipulate me. "I wanted to hurt you like you hurt me by manipulating/gaslighting you. You decided to ignore me when I was in a dark place..." and went on and one how it was my fault that she did these things to me and then started to list my flaws as well and then last she said, "So Angela.... grow the fuck up." I finally got away from my ex this summer.
@laurendyer2838
@laurendyer2838 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGalaxyMermaid good for you!!
@kryptofreak4059
@kryptofreak4059 3 жыл бұрын
To be clear, Gothel never actually tells Rapunzel she loves her. Every time she says it, she's looking at Rapunzel's hair, not her.
@LowSlungBadBitch
@LowSlungBadBitch 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of mother knows best she kisses her hair.
@Nylariel
@Nylariel 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a comment like that! Exactly, all her affections are pointed at her hair only.
@SnailHatan
@SnailHatan 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, she does.
@athena2597
@athena2597 3 жыл бұрын
And Eugene always moves her hair out of the way to get to her
@DiamantisHell
@DiamantisHell 3 жыл бұрын
@@athena2597 that's cute
@himitsu.no.rakuen
@himitsu.no.rakuen Жыл бұрын
At the end of this episode when you said, "It doesn't mean you don't love them. It just means they're not safe." I know this feeling intimately. I've had to step back from certain familial relationships in a big way because of this.
@pixelzebra8440
@pixelzebra8440 Жыл бұрын
I’ve said before “she’ll (my mom) never know how much I love her because she treats me like shit”
@brookiebakerie
@brookiebakerie 4 жыл бұрын
And sadly I've said for years that I can't stand Mother Gothel because she reminds me of my mother. Holy crap.
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, I relate. (Alan here, Jonathan's mother was a saint.) This was actually a really hard video to make, because of it.
@brookiebakerie
@brookiebakerie 4 жыл бұрын
@@CinemaTherapyShow ☹ I'm sorry.
@TearsOfEternity
@TearsOfEternity 4 жыл бұрын
I can relate (sort of); my grandmother (my mum's mum) is a textbook narcissist and she will try and gaslight everyone she comes into contact with (carers, doctors, relatives, neighbours. You name it). It's the main reason I (along with my sister and all our cousins) refuse to see her. She's just that horrid a person.
@bella-zq9zh
@bella-zq9zh 4 жыл бұрын
My mom shames me more then gaslighting, but....ya
@comparsa1
@comparsa1 4 жыл бұрын
ok I do think that my mom is a good person and loves me but she always reminded me of gothel (and I have told her), since my mother was always TOO overprotective and almost always wanted to be intrusive in everything (I do not think at all that be bad) which made me insecure and with a feeling of worthlessness. So I don't know what to think about this.
@popliuythj
@popliuythj 4 жыл бұрын
WAIT was Mother Gothel's putting out the candles with her fingers, one by one, a reference to Gaslight? Slowly lowering the lights? THAT'S SO COOL
@nm9tf
@nm9tf 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man i didn't even notice that! Nice connection bro
@MHScrat
@MHScrat 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I saw it as Rapunzel was trying to open her eyes to the world, to see things for herself, and Mother Gothel was putting out the lights, so Rapunzel couldn't see anything and had to rely on Gothels voice to guide her.
@gaj30
@gaj30 4 жыл бұрын
@@MHScrat woww! very nice perspective
@sophiaredwood5825
@sophiaredwood5825 4 жыл бұрын
YOOOOO NICE ONE
@RoseBaggins
@RoseBaggins 4 жыл бұрын
Good catch!! I didn't think about that!! Then again, it has been a while since I've seen Gaslight. Think it's time for a rewatch.
@SqueamishNerd
@SqueamishNerd 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a Reddit thread. The thread start was something like "What one thing made you realise that your parent is toxic?" and someone had commented "When we watched Tangled and during the 'Mother Knows Best' song my mother said 'Wow, she really loves her daughter!'"
@TheBeaniestBean8675
@TheBeaniestBean8675 3 жыл бұрын
Oh sh*t.
@tjones7341
@tjones7341 3 жыл бұрын
That is fucking terrifying.
@TheBeaniestBean8675
@TheBeaniestBean8675 3 жыл бұрын
@@tjones7341 You right
@elizabethbennet4791
@elizabethbennet4791 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid my mom used to watch news stories of kids who got killed by their parents because CPS never took them away from the home in time, turn to me unprovoked and say, "See?! Now that's real abuse!" *pounds head against wall*
@SqueamishNerd
@SqueamishNerd 3 жыл бұрын
​@@elizabethbennet4791 So she only think it's abuse if someone dies. 😨
@marykatezehr1074
@marykatezehr1074 2 жыл бұрын
Eugene getting the hair out of the way to see her face and get to her is such a beautiful touch and I'm so glad you guys pointed that out!!!! Also, Gothel makes Rapunzel come to her for a hug. But her real mother immediately comes to her for the hug
@Musiclover-tm5es
@Musiclover-tm5es Жыл бұрын
Wow! Great detail on the hug thing. I've watched the movie quite a few times and I've never caught that!
@mjosesintilde
@mjosesintilde 3 жыл бұрын
"And that doesn't mean you don't love them, it means they're not safe" HOOOLY this changed my whole perspective
@marvenbuka
@marvenbuka 3 жыл бұрын
ikr! It's clear now, I was feeling very contradictory whether I loved this person or not, love and trust are completely different
@scaredsapphic
@scaredsapphic 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to know what love is. I don't understand, no matter how hard I try.
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 3 жыл бұрын
Timestamp please?
@jeremybrummel3254
@jeremybrummel3254 3 жыл бұрын
@@scaredsapphic Unfortunately, that one is not something you can describe. There are many types of love, too, and humans even get them mixed up. For example, thinking a crush is true love, which even adults do considering divorce rates (my other guess is one or both often do not feel they get enough attention, and therefore do not consider themselves in love anymore).
@jeremybrummel3254
@jeremybrummel3254 3 жыл бұрын
@@marvenbuka Yep
@UnsuspectingCommenterPassingBy
@UnsuspectingCommenterPassingBy 4 жыл бұрын
I think one of the biggest tell-tale signs is that you feel free and happy when you’re away from them, but the moment they’re around, you instantly switch to your childlike guarded, weak self.
@adelynnfoglio8661
@adelynnfoglio8661 4 жыл бұрын
OMG yessss😭😭
@lialaokami
@lialaokami 4 жыл бұрын
Or sometimes in that guarded state you don't even realize it until you're away from that person again, and you just feel *so* drained.
@giasaleen2
@giasaleen2 4 жыл бұрын
I get immediately angry. Like a resentment and have negative thoughts when they’re around. It’s like energy starts to flourish when I’m not around them, but the minute they come around, my mood changes for the worst.
@madisonlewe1057
@madisonlewe1057 4 жыл бұрын
That happens to me whenever I go to visit my parents. Not because of my mom, but everyone else in the house.
@allenmeza6786
@allenmeza6786 4 жыл бұрын
One could even say to feel entangled
@niccvier
@niccvier 4 жыл бұрын
This movie is a masterpiece, shows so many behaviors toxic parents display I remember being little and saying "but Gothel isn't evil, right...? She loves Rapunzel, right...?". Back then I didn't understand why I wanted it so badly to be true. Funniest thing, my mother being the embodiment of Gothel would say "obviously not, she just wants the hair". It was all in plain sight. But then again, I was eight. It was my absolute favourite film and I didn't realise whyz Ten years later my therapist just brings it up suddenly to tell me how much my situation reminds her of Tangled, especially the song "Mother knows best". "Mother knows best reprise" is an absolute masterpiece of psychological manipulation. It checks all the boxes. Aside from the things mentioned in the video: 1. Gothel acts concerned and betrayed, until the very moment Rapunzel says "no" for the first time ever. It turns Gothel aggressive and openly hostile momentarily. Gaslighters often punish critical thinking and autonomy. 2. She keeps mockingly saying "sure, RAPUNZEL knows best" as if it was a punchline in and on its own, as if it was so unthinkably absurd that Raps could be right about anything 3. Says "don't come crying", implying that if she makes an independence decision she will have nothing to come back to (which is obviously untrue because gaslighters desperately need their victims), to make that option seem the more scary and punishing 4. She also has this behaviour that is constant throughout the film, she keeps referring to herself as "mother" "mom" or "mommy". I noticed this is very common among abusive mothers, it's like they're trying to hammer it into everyone's heads that they are a parent, even though they know damn well they aren't (Gothel isn't even Rapunzel's actual mother). 5. This may only be my experience, but the way Gothel acts so upbeat, theatrically joyful and lilting is nearly identical to the way my mother acts, as if to try and show the whole world that she's such a fun and positive person. And then it can obviously can change incredibly rapidly the second the victim expresses their independence or does anything that doesn't suit the gaslighter
@salmiakki7652
@salmiakki7652 4 жыл бұрын
My mother was this 100% no wonder Disney movies were outlawed in her house...
@bluefoxthecutest2628
@bluefoxthecutest2628 4 жыл бұрын
Not really, she is an obvious villain character who kidnapped someone elses kid.
@BelleLorrae
@BelleLorrae 4 жыл бұрын
Not just toxic parent behaviors, but the effects of those behaviors on the kids and the eventual outcome. The one bad thing is that they act like once she was away long enough and found herself that she was fine after that. It doesn't express the almost certain doubt and social anxiety that she'll probably experience for the rest of her life. She's a princess now. She'll constantly be the center of attention and as some of the things that Mother Gothel had warned her about actually happen she'll repeatedly fall into anxiety attacks of self doubt and self loathing similar to when she first left the tower. I would have liked to see them touch on that just a little at the end and how stabilizing having a partner who understands it all can be for victims of these narcissists. So, she doubts something, and he reassures her, and then happily ever after.
@anomaliexxx
@anomaliexxx 4 жыл бұрын
@@bluefoxthecutest2628 well yes, but Rapunzel doesn’t see her that way. And that’s the problem. Abuse victims like this often don’t realize what’s happening to them
@PhoenixRising87
@PhoenixRising87 4 жыл бұрын
@@anomaliexxx Took me 30 damn years to realize that...so true.
@emppu1012
@emppu1012 Жыл бұрын
I've seen multiple people, in my own life and in social media, say that Tangled was how they identified a toxic person in their life, because they could relate strongly to Rapunzel and saw that person in Mother Gothel. It just goes to show that representation, both positive and negative, really matters
@dreamsmasher5054
@dreamsmasher5054 4 жыл бұрын
I love Mother Gothel. She’s such a well written villain. No exaggerated violence or brute force, just pure manipulation. She’s so realistic, watching the movie now that I’m older makes me so uneasy. Especially when she berates Rapunzel’s beauty, all because she’s insecure of her own age and aging process. One of the best Disney villains, imo.
@naryainc
@naryainc 4 жыл бұрын
Ursula and Jafar are definitely in the running. Just never read the original of little mermaid to save yourself from true agony and pain.
@Jekyllstein_Gray
@Jekyllstein_Gray 4 жыл бұрын
Rivaled only by Frollo.
@culturedswine3586
@culturedswine3586 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jekyllstein_Gray trueee, such a dark character. The video essays on him are so good too
@taliagmail.com2005
@taliagmail.com2005 4 жыл бұрын
Stop liking the villains I hate mother gothel she's evil and rapunzel is a good gentle teen
@taliagmail.com2005
@taliagmail.com2005 4 жыл бұрын
Rapunzel is our number hero even though fly ruder saved her she did confront mother gothel too
@digitaldragon101
@digitaldragon101 4 жыл бұрын
"It's okay to have surface level relationships." "There's a difference between love and trust." I have never in my life felt so vindicated and validated until I heard these two sentences.
@saidafrhn
@saidafrhn 4 жыл бұрын
Same, i’ve got terrible extended family on both sides and that really lifted a lot off my shoulders
@the_hope_of_balarat1109
@the_hope_of_balarat1109 4 жыл бұрын
Oh. Ye. Gods. I needed to hear this 14 years ago...
@awkwardlybatman1647
@awkwardlybatman1647 4 жыл бұрын
Y'all I'm so sorry that no one told you that before! Your sanity and mental health is way more important than any relationship. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise
@chee.rah.monurB
@chee.rah.monurB 4 жыл бұрын
Bro you ok?I know a stranger on the internet ain't worth a lot but i can direct you to some toons and memes if it gives you some happines.
@melodydeprey1840
@melodydeprey1840 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@thesubjectofstars
@thesubjectofstars 4 жыл бұрын
this is why it drives me NUTS when people say "nono, gothel LOVED rapunzel!!" no. she didn't.
@jukichistudio3520
@jukichistudio3520 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing she loved was her hair.
@Sara3346
@Sara3346 4 жыл бұрын
I hate to admit that the worst I saw in her before I saw this video was her being a little bit too pushy. I wonder if that simply because I'm naive or was more so when I saw it or whether I've been manipulated more than I realize.
@Grizzlox
@Grizzlox 4 жыл бұрын
She loved HAVING Rapunzel
@brendonslife4584
@brendonslife4584 4 жыл бұрын
Yah she loved being immortal, not the girl
@Lucailey
@Lucailey 4 жыл бұрын
She loved Rapunzel's hair. It's true. Every time she is loving on Rapunzel she really is touching her hair.
@Proj3ta
@Proj3ta 10 ай бұрын
Mother Gothel is such a good villain that she managed to gaslight me as a kid. I thought that she wasn't that bad and felt sad when she died 💀
@Tail_0r
@Tail_0r 7 ай бұрын
LITERALLY ME, gothel was really good at it😭
@Zahraxzahraa
@Zahraxzahraa 19 күн бұрын
REAL
@Ghostofanopossum
@Ghostofanopossum 15 күн бұрын
SAME
@flowerqueen803
@flowerqueen803 4 жыл бұрын
I think Pascel is the voice in someone's mind who's getting gaslighted. The tiny one that wants to get out of the tower (the toxic relationship) but always gets ignored or suppressed.
@augustinola9261
@augustinola9261 4 жыл бұрын
or like a friend of the person being gaslighted that doesnt know what to do and tries to help them but they cant really do anything.
@justarandomperson4606
@justarandomperson4606 4 жыл бұрын
Damn
@kimlipeatingmango3318
@kimlipeatingmango3318 4 жыл бұрын
theres a comment exactly like this one 🤦
@car0lign3
@car0lign3 4 жыл бұрын
I like that! Also pascal didn’t like Flynn which I think is smart because once you are distrustful of your gaslighter that can transition into distrust of anyone who shows interest in you
@adiamond2587
@adiamond2587 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree because In the beginning inside the tower he’s mostly ignored and once she’s out he has more physical impact in the story and as she grows emotionally so does his affect in the story, the last trip to end gothels rein I love that thought
@silversamurai0267
@silversamurai0267 4 жыл бұрын
The moment Gothel sang, "You're gettin' kind of chubby." to Rapunzel my dad gasped, covered his face with his hands as he cringed, and exclaimed, "Oh my God. What an EVIL woman!" He was so appalled that a "mother" would ever dare say that to her daughter. 🤣 (I love my dad. He's such a sweetheart.)
@CandyApples4ever
@CandyApples4ever 4 жыл бұрын
Awww your dad is such a keeper. :D
@melovx3928
@melovx3928 4 жыл бұрын
:>
@SesamUbe
@SesamUbe 4 жыл бұрын
My mom calls me fat on a regular basis so it made me laugh but damn I wish I had a parent like yours 💀💀
@Letcharlieplay2545
@Letcharlieplay2545 4 жыл бұрын
Can I have your dad?
@CandyApples4ever
@CandyApples4ever 4 жыл бұрын
@@Letcharlieplay2545 Can we all be adopted by him?
@frickinfrick8488
@frickinfrick8488 3 жыл бұрын
It’s scary, when I was a kid I fell for Gothel’s lies. Obviously I knew she was abusive and terrible, but I thought deep down she actually cared a little for Rapunzel because of the scenes when she seems genuinely nice and loving to her. Now that I’m older I realise that’s just another part of her abuse and gaslighting. What a great villain.
@mynamo12
@mynamo12 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing
@gnathp4497
@gnathp4497 3 жыл бұрын
Saaaaaame; it took me so long to recognize the toxicity between her and Rapunzel, and as a child I always felt the need to give her the benefit of the doubt because, well, she "loves" her daughter, doesn't she??
@QweAsd-tc8qt
@QweAsd-tc8qt 3 жыл бұрын
Same for me. At first I thought that she loved her for real, that she really wanted to keep her safe, that she just was exaggerating. When I watched the scene were she imprisoned her, I realized that she loved her hair, not her (even if it's obvious in the whole movie, I realized when it couldn't be clearer). I didn't realize until a year ago that it was a really serious problem in my personal life too.
@blackdragoness21
@blackdragoness21 3 жыл бұрын
What was scary with me is that I fell for Gothel's lies too. I was an adult when this movie came out. I thought she cared about Rapunzel, at least a little bit.
@blondbunny9124
@blondbunny9124 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, as a kid, I thought that although she uses her hair for eternal youth, I still thought that she cared for her a little.
@estherclawson6876
@estherclawson6876 2 жыл бұрын
I needed this. I subconsciously gaslighted some people in the past and when I realized it I cut off all friendships and normal socializing with others, and I didn't realize it until I watched this video. I stopped talking to people because part of me was afraid to continue interacting with other human beings, like I would just keep manipulating and lying, and that really hurt. I've been so isolated. I see I need to change. Thanks, Cinema Therapy. This was not the journey I was expecting.
@whaleborne1308
@whaleborne1308 2 жыл бұрын
It's a hard pill to swallow. Hopefully therapy has been going well for you. I hope you tried to get help.
@abyssmom2692
@abyssmom2692 Жыл бұрын
That is very brave. I hope that all is going well. I have recently had the realization that my childhood(up until 30) idol was my mom and she is a master manipulator and gaslighter. I watch myself and question everything from fear that I will do it to my spawn.
@Amitabha108
@Amitabha108 Жыл бұрын
Good for you for owning your behavior and seeing it with an objective lens. You are on your way to better mental health and consequently better relationships. Better Love. ❤
@wonderstorm116
@wonderstorm116 Жыл бұрын
“The first part to not being bad is realizing that you’re bad in the first place.’ -CloudScraper (Edit, fixing the quote)
@kiaheat1920
@kiaheat1920 Жыл бұрын
Kudos 🤘🤘🤘🤘❤️❤️❤️❤️
@rabadondeathcap5359
@rabadondeathcap5359 4 жыл бұрын
"You can't just completely cut them off of your life" You underestimate me.
@Worn_Guide
@Worn_Guide 4 жыл бұрын
Separate the poison from the antidote. I can't relate, but I see your plight.
@finngrace8727
@finngrace8727 4 жыл бұрын
The gays:
@Chikin1ninjas
@Chikin1ninjas 4 жыл бұрын
That's right bitches, we're the adults now
@ChristianMasseyAU
@ChristianMasseyAU 4 жыл бұрын
I came to the comments specifically to say that you absolutely can cut people, even family, out of your life completely. What a ridiculous idea that you wouldn't be able to do that.
@amirriddle
@amirriddle 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianMasseyAU its not necessarily ridiculous. It is just harder to do than one might think I have many friends my age,22, with toxic parents. But they rely on their parents for education, shelter, health care. It is not easy to sever connections with people you have know your entire life
@rueinred3153
@rueinred3153 4 жыл бұрын
"I just listened for the sound of complete and utter betrayal and followed that." The shade has been thrown.
@rueinred3153
@rueinred3153 4 жыл бұрын
Dang it's been 3 days and I already have 1.1k likes??
@0ddman0ut64
@0ddman0ut64 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised that lady didn't just wander in a circle for forever and a day.
@littlefox_100
@littlefox_100 3 жыл бұрын
How did u find her by going in a circle?
@littlefox_100
@littlefox_100 3 жыл бұрын
@@0ddman0ut64 lol I didn’t read your comment I promise
@notstraw
@notstraw 3 жыл бұрын
*awkwardly stares at my mom after she says “so im the bad guy here?” for the 3rd time a month* 😬
@chriswedemann8599
@chriswedemann8599 3 жыл бұрын
If you have to ask, the answer is "yes".
@xoxokennya
@xoxokennya 3 жыл бұрын
Yo I be trying not to make my mom seem all that terrible but she’s hitting a lot of points here 😐
@recless8667
@recless8667 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoxokennya Parents can very easily be toxic and manipulative. It's a learned method of control, and might happen naturally as parents figure out how to control their children. It might not be intentional, but it's a LOT more common than you think. I didn't speak to my family for YEARS after moving out. I'm once again not talking to my mother. Work it out if you can, but do not be afraid to make the hard decisions for your own mental health.
@joybreegaming8781
@joybreegaming8781 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoxokennya idk what age you are but perhaps suggest watching tangled together
@mak7173
@mak7173 3 жыл бұрын
SAME LMFAO
@AdlinIsBored
@AdlinIsBored 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the only way Mother Gothel could be worse is that my parents actively support her actions. She's a horrible, terrible, AWFUL person but my parents constantly say that Rapunzel is the horrible one for not listening to her "mother." I feel as though this speaks a lot about the type of people my parents actually are.
@yamataichul
@yamataichul Жыл бұрын
I hope and PRAY for you heal and recover. Please go no or minimal contact. That's NOT reasonable or UNDERSTANDABLE from them...
@AdlinIsBored
@AdlinIsBored Жыл бұрын
@@yamataichul Ong. I plan to just work my tail off saving up funds to move out as soon as possible. However, finding a stable job at 16 in a heavily Christian town when you're genderfluid and unable to drive is near impossible.
@localtrashdump2266
@localtrashdump2266 Жыл бұрын
​@@AdlinIsBoredI wish you all the best and I hope you get away from that horrible situation and that you'll find amazing support. If you ever need to vent, feel free to come back to this comment, we'll listen
@forrest6939
@forrest6939 Жыл бұрын
do confrontation, but do it respectfully, try your best to keep your temper, and speak confidentially. Everytime they gaslight you, force facts in their face so hard it leaves bruises. And if you start succumbing to their insults and deception remember that you are more than them, and you DON'T need them. Find a friend at school, and if you are out of school, try communicating and if that doesn't work cut it off.
@AdlinIsBored
@AdlinIsBored Жыл бұрын
@@forrest6939 I've tried confrontation but it usually ends with me getting my electronics taken away due to my dad not having a valid counter-argument. (I use my electronics as an unhealthy way to avoid my parents.)
@emileedhouse8367
@emileedhouse8367 4 жыл бұрын
tangled is an brilliant movie in how to put a subconscious messages into an adolescents brain to prepare them for the future
@emileedhouse8367
@emileedhouse8367 4 жыл бұрын
hope your having a good day for who ever looks
@mydolphinmarie
@mydolphinmarie 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@thedashey
@thedashey 3 жыл бұрын
@@emileedhouse8367 Thanks, I really needed that.
@inspiringer6418
@inspiringer6418 3 жыл бұрын
It subconsciously taught me that I was being gaslighted and child abused by my mother when it came out
@grape512
@grape512 3 жыл бұрын
@@inspiringer6418 I only realized just now that I was gaslighted by my step mom really bad, thanks to this video. My mom is mentally and emotionally abusive, but for some reason she favored me and acted normal with me. My siblings suffered, as well as my dad and my awesome step dad. My dad is a passive misogynist and that probably messed up my life more than anything else. I'm still paying for it. He stood in my way of getting an education which backfired on him. If I had been earning what I could've been earning, he wouldn't have had to worry as much about how he was going to survive financially during retirement, because I would've been happy to contribute. All of this makes me appreciate my step dad even more.
@Nuffsaid22
@Nuffsaid22 3 жыл бұрын
Loved when Eugene used his last breath to cut the hair and set Rapunzel free. Her well being was a priority in their relationship.
@homelesshannah50
@homelesshannah50 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was also redemption for him cause he spent so much of his life being a selfish jerk and now he could finally give something back.
@littlesongbird1
@littlesongbird1 2 жыл бұрын
@@homelesshannah50 You know that is a good point and it shows his character arc that he could change and seek redemption unlike mother Gothel who chose not to change.
@sum6903
@sum6903 2 жыл бұрын
More than his life .. he deserves rapunzel
@victoriarose9090
@victoriarose9090 2 жыл бұрын
I love that!
@weirdfairy
@weirdfairy 2 жыл бұрын
My fav disney male character so far
@SamaritanPrime
@SamaritanPrime 4 жыл бұрын
And at last, I see the light And it's like a fog has lifted Sometimes, Disney has all the subtlety of a freight train.
@stephaniewebb9474
@stephaniewebb9474 4 жыл бұрын
True story: FOG is the narc's toolbox-- fear, obligation, and guilt.
@adrianasevilla8984
@adrianasevilla8984 3 жыл бұрын
*gasps*
@Yammerzaki123fr
@Yammerzaki123fr 3 жыл бұрын
Wait what about the subtlety of a freight train? We don’t have trains here so-
@SamaritanPrime
@SamaritanPrime 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yammerzaki123fr It’s a play on words. My point was that Disney was making clear what was going on, and it wasn’t being very subtle about it.
@musicisme4evr
@musicisme4evr 3 жыл бұрын
*gasps in princess* holy shit
@ragekitten
@ragekitten 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most terrible things about gaslighting is that even when you get away from the FIRST person, you're more susceptible to that "am i crazy" cycle and more vulnerable for the rest of your life (without serious therapy and support). It's SUCH a terribly hard cycle to break once you're in that loop.
@KH11307
@KH11307 Жыл бұрын
Even if you get away they'll follow and make sure you can't go anywhere
@loralubimaia2783
@loralubimaia2783 3 жыл бұрын
This is the only reason tangled was underrated, parents wanted to hide their own gaslighting tendencies or were uncomfortable with self examination
@cardboard758
@cardboard758 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my..
@noahstobbe9814
@noahstobbe9814 3 жыл бұрын
That's deep
@sarahfisher3063
@sarahfisher3063 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@hazel_1237
@hazel_1237 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god...
@teddybearaf1477
@teddybearaf1477 3 жыл бұрын
That’s so true tho but my grandma liked the movie and so did I so we watched it but my mom hated it
@Pippa87
@Pippa87 4 жыл бұрын
What’s very interesting is even when she realises how bad Mother Gothel is, she still reaches for her when she falls out the window. Even though she knows how awful she is, she still loves her at some level
@Kagomai15
@Kagomai15 4 жыл бұрын
My friend and I have joked seriously about how her mother is Gothel; that my friend still loves her mother anyway does tell me that Rapunzel's reaching for her checks out. Like they said in the video: love is not the same as trust. (This reply wasn't to argue with you or anything, just, contributing to your observation? Yeah, that.)
@YukiCorporation
@YukiCorporation 4 жыл бұрын
It's a complicated relationship. The series goes even further: Rapunzel clearly shows signs of PTSD just from seeing the tower and remembering her life there, yet she still cries when *spoiler it gets destroyed. Such a powerful scene
@kizunadragon9
@kizunadragon9 4 жыл бұрын
thats the thing with being gaslighted, it programs your mind and emotions. Reaching out for her was a programed response.
@TheMuseAphelion
@TheMuseAphelion 4 жыл бұрын
That's the horrible part of being raised by an abusive parent. You *want* them to love you, you *want* them to respect you. Even when they hurt you and it hurts you even more when you think they don't. Even with all the things my mother (and *her* mother, father, and brother) did to my father, brother, and I, I still miss her and wish I could have one more conversation.
@yingzhu3701
@yingzhu3701 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps even though she knows the truth about Mother Gothel, she doesn't want a person to die. It could also be the abusive relationship.
@Chowderchef
@Chowderchef 4 жыл бұрын
this is why gothel is actually the scariest disney villain
@gomiko8979
@gomiko8979 4 жыл бұрын
Idk man, a sorceress who can turn into a fire breathing dragon is kinda scary, too.
@haileyrobins5992
@haileyrobins5992 4 жыл бұрын
Idk it just feels the most real I guess. You could have a parent or family member and it makes you feel like it’s your fault when something bad happens, and honestly the fact that humans can do it makes her the scariest.
@naly202
@naly202 4 жыл бұрын
You've probably never seen Hunchback of Notre Dame. Frollo is the scariest disney villain by far. And the most amazing.
@Lily-wk4gr
@Lily-wk4gr 4 жыл бұрын
@@gomiko8979 Yeah but Gothel is the most realistic example. A sorceress turning into a dragon wouldn't really happen but someone manipulating you is.
@Lundy.Fastnet.Irish_Sea
@Lundy.Fastnet.Irish_Sea 4 жыл бұрын
Madame Medusa from The Rescuers is also horrible. She used a little girl to find a diamond in a narrow cave (literally slave underage labor). Memorable quote: "Adopted? What makes you think anyone would want a homely little girl like you?"
@maryantblanco8954
@maryantblanco8954 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, guys! I checked the article and realized my boyfriend was a gaslighter on 11/11 and he was completely abusing me. I didn't recognize that before because my family was very abusive too and I didn't know that. I watched the movie when I was 10 and I got very obsessed with it, I watched until memorized the entire script. Today, 12 years later, I understand the deep meaning it has to me.
@hadesedits1501
@hadesedits1501 Жыл бұрын
it's good that you recognized this, that's the first step to breaking the cycle and getting out of those relationships. How are you doing now?
@jennyraylen8410
@jennyraylen8410 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone’s saying that what’s scary about Gothel is that she actually exists irl. But what really scares me is how many people I’ll see in comments sections, etc, *defending* Gothel and claiming she really loved Rapunzel. People get trapped in these unhealthy relationships, and our society normalizes them, to the point where people take the side of the abuser in fictional relationships. It’s both really sad and terrifying.
@FadiAntwan
@FadiAntwan 4 жыл бұрын
Enablers and flying monkeys. So many of them out there, and they’re a huge part of the problem.
@beholdthegriffin5488
@beholdthegriffin5488 4 жыл бұрын
Where are these people I need to break some knees
@goldenapplesaga5446
@goldenapplesaga5446 3 жыл бұрын
Eh... to that people are defending her by saying that she loves her is kinda simplifying. What mother Gothel is doing is absolutely no ok but there are a lot of real-life cases of abusive parents/partners hurting their loved ones through abuse without knowing it and then voluntarily and consciously taking steps to change their behavior one they realize it *because* they know that what they're doing is not ok. Mother Gothel isnt one of these examples but I can see where the people saying that she loved rapunzel are coming from. I don't agree with them, but I understand why they say that.
@kaisawatson
@kaisawatson 3 жыл бұрын
Well... I don't know if saying she loved Rapunzel is the same thing as defending her (though I imagine some people will try using this as an argument). You can "love" someone in an awfully toxic, possessive and destroying manner. It's not like there is an absolute definition of what "love" is. We don't live in a simple world where "love = good". I would say in reality it's more "respect = good". Love without respect and consideration is possessiveness but can still be considered love (or not, depends on a person 's definition of what "love" includes) If you have a wide definition of what love is, I think you can consider that Gothel loved Rapunzel, but that doesn't make what she did any better, or excuse her in any way... I've always been wondering if Gothel ever loved Rapunzel, even a little, and I'm still not sure of the answer, but it never came to my mind that if the answer was yes that would mean Gothel was a good person, even in the slightest. "love" is no excuses to abusive treatments.
@goldenapplesaga5446
@goldenapplesaga5446 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaisawatson I personally couldn't agree with you more.
@LillyMarchant
@LillyMarchant 2 жыл бұрын
"The world is full of horrible, selfish people..." It's the one time that Mother Gothel tells the truth, and she's talking about herself.
@Coastpsych_fi99
@Coastpsych_fi99 2 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@f4llenleaves
@f4llenleaves 2 жыл бұрын
Takes one to know 👏
@Adamant_Adam
@Adamant_Adam 2 жыл бұрын
They do love to do that. :(
@firepawx3779
@firepawx3779 2 жыл бұрын
Worddd
@Webbgurl2000
@Webbgurl2000 2 жыл бұрын
Narcissistic people project a lot
@BlightVonDrake
@BlightVonDrake 4 жыл бұрын
"I now realize I've probably been gaslighting my dog." This, one and all, is a literary device known as "the hook."
@yanelisroman2807
@yanelisroman2807 4 жыл бұрын
Oof make sure u stop doing it
@feralnerd5
@feralnerd5 Жыл бұрын
hi. that bit about how it doesn't mean you don't love them, it just means they're not safe for you -- that rang true. it resonated. it was something i needed to hear. thank you.
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow Жыл бұрын
You're welcome :)
@amandalynn4979
@amandalynn4979 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, in the series, it was confirmed she had a daughter before she stole Rapunzel, and abandoned her to go after Rapunzel. This is why she is the WORST villain in my eyes. (Edit: I hate to be the annoying person to label my edits but I had to write these three things: 1. Yes, the series is canon. The original creators worked on it, as well as the actors. If you don't like it, this is not the place to voice your opinion. Some people like it, some people don't. 2. I'm sorry to all of you in the replies that had parents like Gothel. My heart goes out to you. 3. Yeah, Gothel, Frollo, and Cruella De Vil are the three worst villains
@PhoenixRising87
@PhoenixRising87 4 жыл бұрын
Right? She's an all-around garbage human.
@NumberOneScaramoucheFan
@NumberOneScaramoucheFan 4 жыл бұрын
Lol Cassandra
@amandalynn4979
@amandalynn4979 4 жыл бұрын
@@PhoenixRising87 I know. Malificent doesn't stand a chance against Gothel. Cassandra and Rapunzel deserved better. I don't blame Cassandra's Dad for not sticking around with THAT bitch.
@rachelkim4457
@rachelkim4457 4 жыл бұрын
Good villain bad person
@Linnzy
@Linnzy 4 жыл бұрын
A daughter that she åretty much treated like a servant.
@wherefancytakesme
@wherefancytakesme 3 жыл бұрын
Gothel: *Is affectionate with Rapunzel's hair* Eugene: *Brushes away Rapunzel's hair to be affectionate with her* 🤯
@vapx0075
@vapx0075 3 жыл бұрын
How did people not get this the first time?
@nonnnniss
@nonnnniss 3 жыл бұрын
@@pweppo agree
@clearlynotchloe
@clearlynotchloe 3 жыл бұрын
@@vapx0075 sorry i’ll just be more cinematically adept when i was like 10 lmao
@aimeezz
@aimeezz 3 жыл бұрын
IKR
@ChimeraLotietheBunny
@ChimeraLotietheBunny 3 жыл бұрын
Love it...Nice mention
@sheldiwatson6806
@sheldiwatson6806 4 жыл бұрын
What I find interesting is you can see that Mother Gothel had a solid wooden door but Repunzel only had curtains, and that is denying someone of privacy!
@Jade-ns5dm
@Jade-ns5dm 4 жыл бұрын
damnnn-
@olive0eyes0
@olive0eyes0 4 жыл бұрын
these types, love infiltrating and hate boundaries . just like google, my good gobermints and lovely corporations
@LPdedicated
@LPdedicated 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, I never noticed! I'm actually getting goosebumps!
@firepawx3779
@firepawx3779 Жыл бұрын
The way I view the song mother knows best is the original is when the gaslighter is praising you and pretending to care about you while the reprise is when the gaslighter gets frustrated and shows their true colors
@zinganeatsr4011
@zinganeatsr4011 4 жыл бұрын
It’s weird. When I was younger I thought that the mother still loved Rapunzel. This was such an interesting way to write a villain, it’s so subtle
@naturally_roisin
@naturally_roisin 4 жыл бұрын
The scariest villains are the ones we thought were our friends.
@zinganeatsr4011
@zinganeatsr4011 4 жыл бұрын
@@naturally_roisin it’s not even that! The movie tells you FROM THE START that she’s the villain. Yet the things she says and the way she acts still puts you in a sense of uncertainty on whether or not she’s really evil
@katarinacarrico7887
@katarinacarrico7887 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing when I was little! As I grew older, I realized what she was doing, but there was still a part of me that strongly wanted to believe Mother Gothel loved her. After about a year of denial, though, I finally admitted that she didn't. I'm still not sure why I was so desperate to believe that. Maybe because it felt too cruel.
@geekmyths
@geekmyths 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Disney villains are evolving from their only character trait being “evil” to much more in depth personalities that are fun to analyze
@derismiccube2414
@derismiccube2414 4 жыл бұрын
I think she does love her, but more of in the way that she loves what she can offer her (Eternal beauty), so it’s a twisted and dark love
@Antivaguenesssociety
@Antivaguenesssociety 4 жыл бұрын
"Ugh now *I'm* the baad guyyy" Wow how familiar
@miniaturerose2805
@miniaturerose2805 4 жыл бұрын
Or in real life someone might say "I'm just the worst" and it's like "Yes. Exactly!"
@Antivaguenesssociety
@Antivaguenesssociety 4 жыл бұрын
@@miniaturerose2805 I've had both those lines parroted to me!
@Kimmie6772
@Kimmie6772 4 жыл бұрын
Ugh I had a stepdad that would feel attacked if I cried because I felt guilty about not doing something. Everytime I would tell him that I cant control it and that it's not that bad, but would say that I'm trying to make him feel bad. He would just get frustrated at me instead of trying to understand or help why i felt a certain way about something. I had pretty bad anxiety for context and was bad at confrontation. A lot of things you would get onto me about I already beat myself up about constantly and I was beginning to struggle with depressive tendencies. My parents didnt see therapy as that helpful unless I was really bad and the phrase "do we need to take you to a hospital" felt like a threat or a sign I was overreacting. He was brought up with an aggressive parenting style that focused on authority. It wasn't until senior year of high school that I even considered I might have an anxiety disorder and thought that it was just the way I was.
@Antivaguenesssociety
@Antivaguenesssociety 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kimmie6772 I'm sorry about that but hope you are in a good place now. I can't claim abuse in my case but I do know what it's like to be invalidated. Painful.
@milkxnhoney
@milkxnhoney 4 жыл бұрын
“Now I’m the monster 🙄”
@SimplyyLizzie
@SimplyyLizzie 3 жыл бұрын
“I’m a horrible daughter.” Ooof that hit me in the heart as a daughter of a gaslighter.
@subhadramahanta452
@subhadramahanta452 3 жыл бұрын
Same While all your life in school you would hear about how people would wish to have a daughter like you. Like really, thanks to those comments I was finally about to see where the problem actually lyed.
@star.clef1320
@star.clef1320 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@somedude172
@somedude172 3 жыл бұрын
friendly reminder to you or whoever else is reading this that youre not a terrible daughter/son/person, and even the best of us fall for gaslighting and the like
@erasedshallbehisname5100
@erasedshallbehisname5100 3 жыл бұрын
Me too...
@kristagerry8505
@kristagerry8505 3 жыл бұрын
Me too 🥺😮
@NotNaudiz
@NotNaudiz Жыл бұрын
I think it's interesting looking back to when I first saw this movie with my mom. I was pretty young and honestly kinda liked Gothel, while my mom was much more keyed into her behaviors and actively hated her. It's an interesting thing, in retrospect, that Mother Gothel's manipulations worked on children through the screen.
@AsiahAaliyah
@AsiahAaliyah Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! This makes sense. People who display Mother Gothel’s behavior tend to be able to charm the socks off of anybody.
@danic1045
@danic1045 2 жыл бұрын
The quick talking, the rolling or the eyes, the constant and yet subtle form of degrading…no wonder she scared me so much as a kid, she’s the most life-like Disney villain we’ve had in a while
@eduardochavacano
@eduardochavacano 2 жыл бұрын
This film is apparently too Violent for little kids.
@kore3919
@kore3919 2 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing how a lot of people had got up and walked out of the theater early in the movie because the Mother Gothel scenes were too real and traumatic that they couldn’t keep watching. That’s how well Disney nailed it.
@tidepodpadthai2633
@tidepodpadthai2633 2 жыл бұрын
she's the scariest villain because she can exist in real life
@saracecchinelli3740
@saracecchinelli3740 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't know why but the realism is what bores me out from her. To me her scenes were the most boring ones among many Disney films, so much that i remember finishing the film and thinking "cute but boring"
@deletelater3484
@deletelater3484 2 жыл бұрын
@@saracecchinelli3740 I can see where you're coming from but to me, it didn't seem boring. It seemed menacing and threatening. To see someone who didn't rely on magic but just pure cunning and manipulation. To see how her brain worked and how she orchestrated everything was fascinating to me the first time I watched it, and it still is.
@samuelmackenzie5267
@samuelmackenzie5267 2 жыл бұрын
I love the moment when Flynn says “a little rebellion is good, healthy even” because it is statement suggesting that rebellion is a natural part of life.
@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322
@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322 2 жыл бұрын
It is. 😂😈
@eafesaf6934
@eafesaf6934 2 жыл бұрын
It truly is. I grew up basically in a controlling household but goddang is my stepmother a gaslighter lol she fucked my childhood up and iam still suffering from it. But at least iam starting to get rebellious later on.
@nikkittykatplayzzz6619
@nikkittykatplayzzz6619 2 жыл бұрын
​@@eafesaf6934 Yea g-good. *DID I MUMBLE*
@singingwithbecca
@singingwithbecca 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@mjfanta1915
@mjfanta1915 2 жыл бұрын
"Growing up" is essentially understanding which rules no longer apply to you. The minute you realize you can cross the street alone. This often (but not always) comes with a little rebellion.
@psychedelllica
@psychedelllica 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, I never noticed that eugene pushes the hair out of her face while Gothel kisses it! What incredible attention to detail!!
@LowSlungBadBitch
@LowSlungBadBitch 3 жыл бұрын
WAIT OMFG I NOTICED HE MOVED IT BUT I DIDNT EVEN PUT THAT TOGETHER WTF. THATS SO WHOLESOME.
@greggeverman5578
@greggeverman5578 3 жыл бұрын
Me neither.
@greggeverman5578
@greggeverman5578 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowSlungBadBitch Nice. Language though.
@LowSlungBadBitch
@LowSlungBadBitch 3 жыл бұрын
@@greggeverman5578 My language?
@sindrevangenrobberstad2889
@sindrevangenrobberstad2889 3 жыл бұрын
I've made up my mind: This is the best Disney romance
@yukima920
@yukima920 2 жыл бұрын
I just realized this after fighting with my mother. Except it wasn’t just my mom, it was also my dad… Watching this helped me understand exactly what was happening all these years and why I was growing so distant from my parents.
@syncopatedglory
@syncopatedglory 4 жыл бұрын
reading these comments and realizing there's actually moms who unironically sang "mother knows best" to their children is horrifying.
@lialaokami
@lialaokami 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry what, seriously??
@alstaka4375
@alstaka4375 4 жыл бұрын
My mother did it a lot
@dianamorillo8606
@dianamorillo8606 4 жыл бұрын
@@alstaka4375 Are you okay hun? Do you need a hug?
@sparrowwassup7156
@sparrowwassup7156 4 жыл бұрын
My mom sang it a little bit after the movie came out and tried to scare me sometimes by trying to pretend she was brushing my hair and creepily singing flower gleam and glow. She doesn't do it anymore, since I didn't ever really find it funny. :/
@alstaka4375
@alstaka4375 4 жыл бұрын
@@dianamorillo8606 thank you for your concern. No, I'm not okay. It took years of gaslighting and the tangled movie as a teen to realize how similar of a situation I was in. To therefore realize it was **bad**. Especially since my mother at the end of the movie didn't really understand how Mother Gothel was a villain. On the initial watch she was honestly encouraging her. Trapping your kid at home because the big bad world is so scary, saying you can't do anything to protect you. Wanting to do literally anything makes you a horrible being. Your only purpose is to do what they say and be an accessory to make them look better for the public and nothing else. Feeling like a doll with no personality or self worth. Unlike rapunzel whose overcome alot, I'm slowly dipping my toes. Even as a grown woman I haven't really escaped. Somehow I'm still trapped and it's frustrating. Just doing my best for now. But man this video just made more emotional today.
@amazon2.022
@amazon2.022 4 жыл бұрын
In reality, this story is horrible, imagine the trauma after going through this for years...
@coolout5207
@coolout5207 4 жыл бұрын
it is meant to be realistic.. and many people can relate to it :')
@angelrosez
@angelrosez 4 жыл бұрын
I domt have to imagine ahahaha
@RebeccaDubs
@RebeccaDubs 4 жыл бұрын
We just have for the last 4 years with Trump.
@jhope4552
@jhope4552 4 жыл бұрын
my reality
@jhope4552
@jhope4552 4 жыл бұрын
stay strong everyone whos going through the same thing
@alexhb12333
@alexhb12333 3 жыл бұрын
I remember spending time at a friend's house as a kid and watching insane levels of gaslighting and emotional manipulation used between EVERYONE. It felt like nothing was ever done out of genuine love, care, or responsibility, but always out of guilt, anxiety, or anger. What made me realize was when he would come over to my house and say "It's so peaceful over here...."
@recoveringsoul755
@recoveringsoul755 3 жыл бұрын
It's the FOG; Fear, Obligation and Guilt
@Pxl8d
@Pxl8d 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. This comment sent shivers down my spine. I'm so glad I grew up around a stable and loving family.
@TheStarGardens
@TheStarGardens 2 жыл бұрын
Owh.. Is he okay right now?
@ChaosAngel667
@ChaosAngel667 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why I never liked the family reunions with grandma... both grandmas
@cultofnatethemagnificent5879
@cultofnatethemagnificent5879 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god that is scary to think about, is your friend ok?
@signallostgif
@signallostgif 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this video with my mom. She’s gaslighted me for nearly 19 years and watching this finally helped me to realize what she’s really like. I still love her but it’s hard to trust her when I can tell she’s gaslighting me on a daily basis.
@yamataichul
@yamataichul Жыл бұрын
I hope you heal and look for psychotherapy. I'm hoping and praying for your family relationships to not deteriorate, is saddening if that's the case...
@jesscarrier4180
@jesscarrier4180 11 ай бұрын
There's nothing wrong with loving someone but not trusting them if they have shown they're not deserving of your trust
@bumblebee2372
@bumblebee2372 3 жыл бұрын
The scary thing is that mother Gothal will say things like: -flower -pet And this is a sign she doesn’t see her as a person but as an object or something she owns. Edit: omg thank you so much for the huge amount of likes!
@asheefaazmialifia3069
@asheefaazmialifia3069 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god
@ariana7514
@ariana7514 3 жыл бұрын
i- woah 🧍🏾‍♀️
@eaglefan2569
@eaglefan2569 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever she says anything complementary it's also to her hair (usually touching it as well), and whenever she says anything derogatory it's to her face (either direct eye contact, being in Rapunzel's personal space, or touching her skin).
@bumblebee2372
@bumblebee2372 3 жыл бұрын
@@eaglefan2569 this is also why I love Eugene because whenever he goes to kiss her or talk to her he will move the hair out of her face. Showing he doesn’t care about the hair. I LOVE HIM...SO MUCH.
@Punkini
@Punkini 3 жыл бұрын
And in the movie, whenever she tells rapunzel she loves her in any way, she’s staring at her hair, not at her.
@myMelody4life
@myMelody4life 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot the most blatant lie she told Rapunzel: that she was her mother, and not a kidnapped princess from a nearby kingdom
@marallenrondez2606
@marallenrondez2606 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.... probably the least of their worries from a Therapy standpoint tbh
@Shaesi.
@Shaesi. 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't really matter if she's her biological mother or not. For Rapunzel, that's her mother, and the point they want to make here is that she's gaslighting her.
@lindanorton2088
@lindanorton2088 3 жыл бұрын
The scene where Flynn cuts Rapunsels hair was beautiful. My husband tried to help me see the truth about my family and this scene parallels the sacrifice loved ones go through to help someone who is being decieved.
@lexyshannon9428
@lexyshannon9428 3 жыл бұрын
Literally cutting off the one thing that Gothel could use Rapunzel for in order to save her from a life of misery even at the cost of his own... That scene has got to be one of my favorite ones to ever exist in Disney!
@wonkybeans
@wonkybeans 2 жыл бұрын
It was also incredibly symbolic in the sense that now all of that burden, weight and past has been cut free and she now has a future to grow with herself. Cutting the hair in many cultures can be symbolism for moving on from the past, maybe it's not really the point but that's what comes to my mind.
@remyhavoc4463
@remyhavoc4463 2 жыл бұрын
@@wonkybeans damn, didn't catch that even though it's a very common cliche I see in anime 😂 As a child, I took as Eugene cut her hair not because he prefers her as short hair but because he doesn't desire her hair at all and can live without it and the way he touches on to Rapunzel's face and slightly removes the hair symbolizes that he wants to see the real Rapunzel rather than the hair which is what people know her as and the only thing that Gothel see her as (I'm contrast, Eugene touched her face and removed her hair while throughout the movie, Gothel always looks at Rapunzel's hair first when checking on her) I also took it as a way for the people to try and see a different kind of Disney ending. Since most of the time, we get to see the way they're advertised as pretty princesses and stay that way at the end of the movie. In Beauty and The Beast, we see Beast turn into an attractive human at the end, in Princess and The Frog, we see them turn into human but in Tangled, we only see and know Rapunzel as the "girl with long hair" so I saw the ending as a way to make the audience decide if they only care for her long hair (like Gothel) or will they accept the new short haired Rapunzel
@devonm042690
@devonm042690 2 жыл бұрын
@@remyhavoc4463 Oh yeah, that's definitely one way of looking at it. I bet I can count the number of people who watched Tangled, whose first words about Rapunzel after seeing her weren't 'she has such beautiful hair' on one hand.
@LuanaSantos-rl4sb
@LuanaSantos-rl4sb 2 жыл бұрын
been there with my bf, five years of this scene. he is really thankful now, but I am not sure I would go though this again.
@citrinethecorgi
@citrinethecorgi 12 сағат бұрын
Tamgled is definitely one of my top 3 modern disney movies. The direction they went with the villain is so interesting, you can tell that mother gothel truly does love her, but shes also doing everything in her power to try amd give rapunzel low self esteem, make her afraid of the outside world, and make her dependant on only her. It's such great writing and its surprisingly accurate to real life manipulation.
@AlexisVandom
@AlexisVandom 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting detail I noticed: during "Mother Knows Best", Mother Gothel repeatedly extinguishes the candles within the tower, which may actually be a direct reference to "Gaslighting".
@SLX__13
@SLX__13 2 жыл бұрын
Gothel also closes the windows to not let the light (which represents knowledge in the "Mother Knows Best" song) to reach Rapunzel. In the song, the light from outside represents knowledge of the outside world, while the candlelight represents Rapunzel's own thoughts and opinions of the world. The only light (knowledge) Gothel wants Rapunzel to see (believe) is the candlelight lit by Gothel (as shown in the "SKIP THE DRAMA, STAY WITH MAMA" part of Mother Knows Best) and the sickly green lantern light near the end of the movie when Rapunzel goes back to the tower.
@natxon
@natxon 2 жыл бұрын
gasunlighting
@horsegirlb7120
@horsegirlb7120 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think she hits 11/11 points because the writers specifically looked them up in developing her character
@alicjak700
@alicjak700 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say it was more to highlight that she was keeping Repunzel in the dark.
@mossripalextechno6450
@mossripalextechno6450 2 жыл бұрын
@@alicjak700 still fun to read into in all the ways though. I like both.
@MiracleWinchester
@MiracleWinchester 4 жыл бұрын
I love how when Mother Gothel says "I love you most", she kisses Rapunzel's hair
@jackwilkins7972
@jackwilkins7972 4 жыл бұрын
I love you my flower.
@larabarbatowolf803
@larabarbatowolf803 4 жыл бұрын
yeah they mention that in the video 🥴
@ok-bd4ry
@ok-bd4ry 4 жыл бұрын
WAIT i thoight you were talking bout she kissed the hair on top of her head like how couples do it but then an image of her kissing just rapunzel’s hair in her hand made me die😭😭
@Ami_E_Bowen
@Ami_E_Bowen 4 жыл бұрын
@@ok-bd4ry They ARE talking about how she kissed the top of Rapunzel's head but she kisses the hair there and when she says "I love you most" she's really speaking to Rapunzel's hair, saying she loves it the most.
@moon-cf2vw
@moon-cf2vw 4 жыл бұрын
I mean people do kiss each other on the head, but I think it’s symbolic here now.
@bopbopbop8059
@bopbopbop8059 3 жыл бұрын
Because of this movie is why I have trust issues. I was watching it with my mom and noticed. “Why is mother gothel the bad guy? She does everything my mom does and my mom’s not bad.” And then I thought about it. “She’s the bad guy and she does everything my mom does.” Yeah that went well. But at least from a young age I learned that her treating me like that wasn’t normal.
@gracienoble2880
@gracienoble2880 3 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing! I was six when this movie came out (wow I feel old, I thought it came out when I was at least a little older) and the first time I watched it I was like "wait, but that's how mom and grandma act. why is she a bad guy?" It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize that what my mom and grandma were doing was textbook manipulation.
@bopbopbop8059
@bopbopbop8059 3 жыл бұрын
@@gracienoble2880 so glad I’m not the only one 😅 so weird how a movie can change you like that
@amystafford724
@amystafford724 3 жыл бұрын
You dont know you are being manipulated especially at such a young age. I was by my dad. He would take me and show me large groups of people and say they were talking about me. I could never live on my own. I was too stupid. I was always the one who was a bad person and in trouble, although I tried so hard to be a good kid. Told other people I treat him bad. "See how she treats me?" I never even learned to strike a match until after I was married. He called it love and protection. Until I left, I didn't understand. I took time to think about everything and decided never to gaslight my kids. I respect my parents, I help them when they need it but I can leave when I want. I still hurt. It probably always will, but I stop the gaslighting here. I am his last victim.
@slushiesloosh
@slushiesloosh 3 жыл бұрын
Same. This movie came out when I was 5 and I never quite understood why Mother Gothel was the villain here since I noticed that that was how my mother acted as well. She would tell me that out of all the characters in the movie Mother Gothel was the best and her favorite song was "Mother Knows Best"- at times, she would also use this song to reprimand me because my opinions, in her eyes, were not "right". And since, no one told me or saw what she was telling me, I agreed with everything she said as if I was a mini-her. Mother Gothel was my favorite character in Rapunzel and I hate to recognize that...
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 3 жыл бұрын
It took me years after I heard of narcissists and watching this movie to fully understand and accept that my mother was a narcissist of her own kind. Living with a narcissist is a form of Hell on Earth.
@jellybeansi
@jellybeansi Жыл бұрын
One of my parents had untreated BPD, and I recognized so much of their behaviour in Mother Gothel. Especially the denial of real events. I remember getting a voice-recording pen to record when my parent said things and then denied them later. But even when I played the recording back to them, they said "that's not what I meant", and that I was twisting their words, and it made me feel insane. Everything I said was wrong. I refused to attend a family event one time, because they had recently blown up at me for refusing to talk to them, and I didn't want to be around them at the time. They cancelled the entire event, saying "I ruined it", simply because I did not want to attend. They made everyone angry with me. They always said, "what is wrong with you?", "are you autistic?" (derogatory), and "I'm shocked you have friends, with how you behave!" when I simply didn't want to talk to them to avoid confrontation. The "Mother Knows Best" song is still very difficult to watch.
@FREAKOFNATURE-mb8oo
@FREAKOFNATURE-mb8oo 3 жыл бұрын
*_Anxiety is pretty much just gaslighting yourself-_*
@destinyhoyt6407
@destinyhoyt6407 3 жыл бұрын
And anxiety is based on others and or situational gaslighting that u started to gaslight yourself because of that abuse as a way to get back to your roots that u were raised on or were used to to find some comfort in your dark world
@Sweaterlatethannever
@Sweaterlatethannever 3 жыл бұрын
And that is enough of reading youtube comments for me today, I say as I refuse to acknowledge the truth of this about myself.
@ianrose6218
@ianrose6218 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sweaterlatethannever I'm right there with you, except I don't think I can avoid thinking about it now.
@axolotllover5732
@axolotllover5732 3 жыл бұрын
To describe it as gaslighting yourself feels pretty accurate! Having lived with general anxiety for ten years, I liked to think of it as "1984, but in your head". As a kid, I was so convinced people might judge me if I thought the wrong thoughts in public, it was THAT bad. To personify worried thoughts can help overcome the worst spirals. Anxiety stopped being a complete worldview/philosophy and became a person who was hungry for control, a Mother Gothel. Obviously, anxiety's not a separate being and it's still YOU, but it's a part of you formed by bad experiences, and it will keep trying to convince you whatever you try will lead to catastrophe. I just thought you brought up an excellent observation.
@junebug115
@junebug115 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@juniperberryyyy
@juniperberryyyy 4 жыл бұрын
The worst part of gaslighting is after you've gotten away from the gaslighter, you are constantly questioning your sanity, your memories, your emotions, everything. It's constant "Am I overreacting?" "It's probably not that bad." "I don't need help." "It's not abuse if you never hit me." It makes you feel insane, because it stays. It stays forever and you can never really trust yourself or anyone else ever again.
@badnipple
@badnipple 4 жыл бұрын
Shit, didn't know this was even a thing. I think I know someone who was going through it and neither of us realised until she left him. Wow.
@naomi9449
@naomi9449 4 жыл бұрын
Goodness read my mind...
@rabab5208
@rabab5208 4 жыл бұрын
You kind of start gaslighting yourself and belittling yourself
@juniperberryyyy
@juniperberryyyy 4 жыл бұрын
@@rabab5208 Yeah...
@azmonbored3837
@azmonbored3837 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, my first instinct when someone hurts me no matter is “this is my fault.” I have to call my friends and tell them what happened and they have to explain to me how it’s not my fault because sometimes I can’t tell.
@kristenlee2429
@kristenlee2429 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought mother Gothel was the most evil Disney villain. She never even calls rapunzel by her name she calls her flower. Proving that the only thing she cares about is rapunzel’s hair
@muaoribia4140
@muaoribia4140 4 жыл бұрын
No, she does, but mostly when she's criticizing her.
@kristenlee2429
@kristenlee2429 4 жыл бұрын
@@muaoribia4140 yes when she’s “affectionate” she calls her flower and never by her name
@SamSommerz
@SamSommerz 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny that you mention this because that's something a lot of gaslighters do. They never call you by your name and only use it when they're criticizing you because they don't see you as another human being, just something to get what they want. When they use your name, they know that it'll hit a nerve somewhere. So, they use that to their advantage when you're not being compliant with what they want from you. I was in a relationship with someone who was abusive and a gaslighter and I know of multiple other people that had this same thing happen to them
@GabrielleHayes1921
@GabrielleHayes1921 4 жыл бұрын
To be a little fair for real mother may have called her that too because a flower saved her life, but it would've been a loving tone towards the daughter herself, not towards the flower powers from her hair
@kirsten5817
@kirsten5817 4 жыл бұрын
OK so this may be random but my name Kirsten Lee-Ann
@evegrace5254
@evegrace5254 2 жыл бұрын
Something small I just noticed, the way a certain line is delivered in Mother Knows Best. "Stop no more you'll just upset me". She doesn't actually care, she just wants Rapunzel to care
@Troubled_waters
@Troubled_waters 4 жыл бұрын
So glad I quit my shit job that would do this to everyone. It’s crazy how standard gaslighting is from employers.
@morganseppy5180
@morganseppy5180 4 жыл бұрын
We bought pizza! Now get back to unpaid OT.
@miniviixu5767
@miniviixu5767 4 жыл бұрын
Same here at my job sadly my boss is the gaslighter and it isn’t even just with work but personal business and life too
@madelinegutierrez1720
@madelinegutierrez1720 4 жыл бұрын
I think most military orgs do this to recruits. That "tear them down to build them up".. up to what they need.
@Wish-and-Hope
@Wish-and-Hope 4 жыл бұрын
You'll find it most wherever there's hierarchies and dependency. Parents, bosses, relationships with uneven power dynamics.
@SapphireBelli
@SapphireBelli 4 жыл бұрын
Well damn, what a coincidence.
@mindfulsexualityflorida5037
@mindfulsexualityflorida5037 3 жыл бұрын
As a former Disney employee, I can tell you almost every Disney movie has at least one scene where the villain is illuminated by light that is that same hue of green
@Tomsense76
@Tomsense76 3 жыл бұрын
And straights against curves! When you have something that works, it just works...
@Chargedolt
@Chargedolt 3 жыл бұрын
Every Villain Is Lime
@lemyamagzoub766
@lemyamagzoub766 3 жыл бұрын
Your not wrong when I think of scars scene he is illuminated by green light while dancing with the hyenas
@sindrevangenrobberstad2889
@sindrevangenrobberstad2889 3 жыл бұрын
Green is EVIL
@delireent.3960
@delireent.3960 3 жыл бұрын
What about Hans?
@julesferreralva
@julesferreralva 2 жыл бұрын
this may seem far fetched but the scene where mother gothel got old and dying, rapunzel reached her arms out to maybe try to save her when she fell out of the window represents how the victims of abuse still have the sympathy or feelings for the abusers even though they already realized that they are being abused. wc is rlly sad.
@soumyacheerla3660
@soumyacheerla3660 2 жыл бұрын
Yes !!
@wesleywallace4426
@wesleywallace4426 2 жыл бұрын
I mean she still raised Rapunzel and took care of her for years. She was abusive and selfish, but it would kind of heartless to wish that she died.
@enfysiridescent
@enfysiridescent 2 жыл бұрын
@@wesleywallace4426 I don't think it would be heartless, honestly. An abusive "parent" can "take care of you for years" while also being extremely cruel, and that abuse can reasonably lead to some very negative feelings towards the abuser. It's not necessarily heartless to wish that your abusers were dead
@bituinl
@bituinl 2 жыл бұрын
@@wesleywallace4426 personally I disagree. Wishing them death is pretty nice Imo. Plus the person being abused will just have many problems in life due to the abuse. It’s life long that will always stay, they can become more functional of course. Although that pain will never go away which I find even more cruel. It would just be sad if they didn’t know they were abusing their kid(s) or actually thought they were doing what is best for them.
@speedude0164
@speedude0164 2 жыл бұрын
That was my exact thought seeing that. Even with everything Mother Gothel did she was still her mother her whole life, and losing that one person she trusted all that time must've been pretty overwhelming for Rapunzel. But at the end of the day, it opens the way forward for her to build her own life.
@jimmy-stevenbiemans1486
@jimmy-stevenbiemans1486 2 жыл бұрын
1:08 Actress Dame Angela Lansbury, who played in the 1944 version of Gaslight by George Cukor, has passed away yesterday on the 11th of October 2022. My condolences to her loved ones. As you can see, even the early films she has played in are still relevant 🙏🏻
@mercuryk1527
@mercuryk1527 4 жыл бұрын
what really gets me is that at the end when mother gothel falls out of the window, rapunzel reaches out to her. it really shows how it takes a long time to really heal from a gas lighter in your life, especially if they were a parental figure.
@dangermenatwork
@dangermenatwork 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! i love that they added it. despite knowing what mother gothel subjected her to for years, she still cared for her, and that couldn't be immediately undone. definitely one of my favorite disney films
@jordie37
@jordie37 4 жыл бұрын
Same icon!!
@mercuryk1527
@mercuryk1527 4 жыл бұрын
@@jordie37 woah 😳
@CJgreencheetah
@CJgreencheetah 4 жыл бұрын
They also subtly showed this through the fact that Flynn and Pascal were the ones who caused her to fall out the window, not Rapunzel.
@mionnepallidare8116
@mionnepallidare8116 4 жыл бұрын
"That doesn't mean you don't love them, it just means they're not safe." YEAH!
@AmberMunir
@AmberMunir 4 жыл бұрын
Really needed to read that to reassure myself. Thank you! ❤️
@mionnepallidare8116
@mionnepallidare8116 4 жыл бұрын
@@AmberMunir, OEM. No problem! 💖
@adinosaur2289
@adinosaur2289 4 жыл бұрын
@@AmberMunir remember, someone that loves you won’t ask for things at your expense (financially or physically), control you, or force you to do anything.
@TraceysShadow
@TraceysShadow 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Chikin1ninjas
@Chikin1ninjas 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Zookeeper, if you really love those tigers, why won't you take them up on their dinner invitation?
@jessicarae6879
@jessicarae6879 3 жыл бұрын
I always cry when I see rapunzel reach for mother gothel as she falls. The worst part of these relationships is how deeply they control your emotions for them. Even as you run from them you love them :(
@fuzzyx2face
@fuzzyx2face 3 жыл бұрын
Like every other Disney princess, rapunzel is a good person and naturally did not want the only mother she knows to die
@angelacavon4073
@angelacavon4073 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t wanna leave my mom because she makes me feel like I NEED her 😒 it makes me feel kinda guilty to just block them though…I love both of them still even though they’re really mean cause they’re my parents 😔
@oOIIIMIIIOo
@oOIIIMIIIOo 3 жыл бұрын
I don't love such people.
@chaseback5102
@chaseback5102 3 жыл бұрын
Yup!!!
@constancemiller3753
@constancemiller3753 3 жыл бұрын
Never noticed that.😳
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