11 Ways Jehovah's Witnesses Use Manipulation

At the request of my patrons, I explore 11 techniques brazenly deployed by Jehovah's Witness leaders to control and manipulate as demonstrated in their own video propaganda material.
Timestamps:
1) Feigning personal interest 0:42
2) Preying on insecurity & emotional instability 6:58
3) Withholding information 13:40
4) Infantilization 25:22
5) Us vs them thinking; shutting down of criticism 29:30
6) Your best is never good enough 33:26
7) Using appeals to emotion 37:27
8) Misrepresenting/misquoting experts 42:34
9) Recalibrating social dependency 57:27
10) Gaslighting 1:03:20
11) Threats of destruction 1:12:50
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Alan Feuerbacher document on misquotes in the Creation book:
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[@AlreyExJW]

I was in sales for 20 years. This sounds exactly like sales techniques we were taught in sales meetings.

[@michelleamaya6446]

That’s the first thing I said. It doesn’t sound anything like a church it sounds like some type of job training.

[@pedroskek]

I’m in sales and it’s completely the same. I was raised as a Jehovah’s Witness. Now I know why I’m the best at my job 😂

[@seanobrien2306]

The Jehovah's Witnesses is a brainwashing and mind control machine ! ! Sincerely in Christ.., Mike in Montana :)

[@jenm9099]

I will tell you one thing- I ended up going into sales and doing quite well. I wonder if it comes from being raised around these manipulative asses.

[@kathykuhns7493]

@@pedroskek 🐮 polo polo

[@LilithLiberated]

“Because as soon as you put your hand on a conversation to steer it, it’s not a conversation anymore. It’s a pitch. And you’re not a human being. You’re a marketing rep.”

[@greyberet1]

Or you become a manipulative conman 😂!

[@fitcwebb]

- Danny Devito

[@ready2danceagain]

Exactly, 💯 percent marketing rep!

[@Heidi5353]

Wow - I like that, it's a powerful representation of how it feels to listen to the GB talk!

[@colinriches1519]

Yes, and it's so obvious when you see it in motion. As a child I remember seeing it as a business for the first time and how horrified I was that a handful of people could do this to millions of people.

[@csrencz6942]

There’s also 50 Ways to Leave Jehovah, including: Just fade in the back, Jack Transfuse your blood, Judd Enjoy your birthday, Ray Just set yourself free! Get a degree, Lee No need to discuss much! Just tune into Lloyd, Floyd, And set yourself free!

[@mariamillwood7672]

Not bad! Not bad at all.! Almost as good as the original.! 😄

[@jacqwerner7919]

Absolutely love that I got a great kick out of it! Very cheeky. You should set it to music and record it!🎸🎙🎶💽😎 and make copies available to all XJW's and faders.🤣

[@valfletcher9285]

Clever!

[@jameschristiansson3137]

@@mariamillwood7672 Can you sing ? I see your first big hit.

[@diannejewell4410]

Excellent

[@marwatson7408]

I saw all the manipulation and control in the organization telling people they have blood on their hands because you never doing enough for Jehovah. Fed up with all the fear, guilt, and shame it’s why I’m no longer a witness.

[@erenjeager4369]

What ?? blood on your hands !? Did they seriously!??!!? Waaahh;;; wtf

[@marwatson7408]

@@erenjeager4369 Yes they did, it not only that but other things as well when it came to the summer months the elder would get up on the podium and tell people that just because they are on vacation from work, or school, doesn’t mean they are on vacation from Jehovah you are NEVER on vacation from Jehovah going out in service is more important than spending that day at the beach or the amusement parks. It was never ending talks about doing more for Jehovah. Read your Bible, do more Bible studies, go out in service more, don’t miss any of the meetings, do let things like work, or other activities get in the way of knowing Jehovah.

[@caligo7918]

@@erenjeager4369 One of the GB said it really clearly: If you don't do the field service, or not enough, then all those people from your area, that die in Armageddon, are on your hands. Ah, Lloyd put it in at 1:13:00

[@erenjeager4369]

@@caligo7918 wah..... then that's even my person keep trying to preach me..

[@felicitydeikos5250]

I left! I had 4 bad jw teachers.

[@oteyozzonerich3806]

Your channel has helped my wife and myself through our period of waking.

[@jewell92]

Welcome to a great life.

[@oteyozzonerich3806]

Thank you, we think so. So grateful having a channel like this, helps remind us we are not alone. The real turning point was being told, in the new system our disabled son would be normal as the devil has him in this system.

[@milham76]

@@oteyozzonerich3806 Yikes!! Horrendous!!

[@jlopez9228]

@@oteyozzonerich3806 I was blamed for my daughter's seizures and disability because I had a figure of the Virgin Mary in my house.

[@oteyozzonerich3806]

@@jlopez9228 Wow! The utter cruelty of this cult still shocks, shouldn't, but does.

[@shayquinn572]

If i had to show a Jehovah's Witness just one video of how Watchtower contols them, this would be it. Well done Llyod.

[@smokeypete2327]

I'm kinda one I grew up in a family who dose it but we are still nice and not hurting anyone

[@shayquinn572]

@@smokeypete2327 Dear dear man I am sure you are very nice people, that is not the point of the video...its pointing out how you nice people are being controlled by 8 unappointed men. WHO DO CAUSE HARM ...BY THEIR SHAMEFUL RULES .

[@smokeypete2327]

@@shayquinn572 u don't know how hard it is to say no to this religion, what if I'm wrong... and my mother would just give up on life cuz she's a strong JW and all her other kids have left btw I'm 17

[@smokeypete2327]

What I'm saying is it would ruin my family

[@Danielle-nz9tn]

@@smokeypete2327 You never know . . . It also could help to wake them up. A professional therapist would try to help you understand that YOU are not responsible for your parents’ feelings. YOU are responsible for your OWN happiness. I understand that this is a completely foreign concept to most Jehovah’s Witnesses and is confused with selfishness and other bad qualities. But you cannot do any real good in this world unless you take care of your own mental health. If your parents shun you, that is ONLY THEIR CHOICE, NOT YOURS. Can you really imagine living your whole life inside this religion if you don’t believe it’s the truth? As a 17 year old, you might feel invincible physically, but take my word-and that of others-it will cause you physical, mental and emotional illness to stay in a cult whose beliefs and rules are oppressive and against what’s in your heart.

[@cuddlez.]

Tony Morris is clearly one disturbed individual. If there was ever a definition of a cult leader, he fits the bill perfectly.

[@milham76]

Yep, thinking the same thing.

[@annaprice7271]

He’s one angry & mean person to want people dead .Just blow them out like a fire on a match. He seems to love doing that like he’s above everyone else. He’s truly a Narcissist! Loving killing is more of a psychopath.JS

[@lacyrynders8798]

He goes from NY to New Jersey to buy $867.00 worth of pricy imported liquor but school kids need to give their ice cream money to the donation basket at the hall. YEAH THAT SEEMS RUGHT.

[@rachietheravenclaw8224]

I was told during my study, that even JWs would die too, not just worldly people. Not sure if she was supposed to say that or not. My aunt believes that even Hitler would be resurrected, I don't want to be a round if he is

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

Buying dozens of Whiskey bottles must be part of the "New Personality." 🤣

[@CassieDavis613]

The countdown: 1) Feigning personal interest 2) Preying on insecurity & emotional instability 3) Withholding information 4) Infantilization 5) Us vs them thinking; shutting down of criticism 6) Your best is never good enough 7) Using appeals to emotion 8) Misrepresenting/misquoting experts 9) Recalibrating social dependency 10) Gaslighting 11) Threats of destruction

[@LloydEvans]

Thanks Cassie! I used this list to put timestamps in the description! Much appreciated! :)

[@CassieDavis613]

@@LloydEvans You are welcome

[@martinalan1191]

Right on sister!

[@alomaalber6514]

yes the PREY not PRAY. (third generation here, they asked me what the picture on the new brochure looked like, I said he looks like he's walking away) best to ya'll.

[@mr.atheist8848]

@@LloydEvans Hey Lloyd thanks for your uploads. You helped me wake up in this cult thanks to your channel.

[@markusbrauns4274]

Indoctrinate is just a nicer way of saying,"Brainwashing them into the cult.

[@slayerdearly]

Dude I love your work

[@mariamillwood7672]

Yea, and turning people's minds into "mush."!

[@alans.wendelschafer6588]

Yup. Pretty much.

[@franktobia4169]

It's all exploitation an manipulation from that organization

[@alans.wendelschafer6588]

@Fazzamania As far as they are concerned, the highway doesn't even exist.

[@milham76]

Extraordinarily well researched video. Can't imagine how you found Robert Weiss' comments or even that the old Awake has changed. Absolutely brilliantly explained. Tony Morris absolutely makes my stomach churn when I watch him. I' ll bet he's stumbled a few JWs too.

[@Snow_main.]

I was a witness for six years then woke up... Everything in this video is 100 percent correct

[@sideshowbob2421]

aWake!

[@Ljy2wp]

The fact that the audiance laugh when he blows that match out makes me sick. They are laughing about the destruction of millions of children and good people. I mean it's just disgusting.

[@ethanw1056]

billions.

[@zedolvero4515]

"He gave us life and he can take it away"- my PIMI mother 🙆🏻‍♂️ Me 💭 Then it sounds like a child playing an evil game with their toys and I'm out 💭 😔

[@Pursuepeace0715]

funny how they miss this scripture Isaiah 55:8-9 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My ways,” says the LORD. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.” anything they think God will do the complete opposite

[@archangel5627]

I completely agree with you. My family and I have been out for a little over 20 years and we don’t even recognize the religion anymore. It really has become a whole different animal. If we didn’t leave 20 years ago, we definitely would have left sooner or later especially since Watchtower embraced the Internet, KZbin, and Digital Media. I think the most disturbing thing about the organization is how condescending the governing body is towards the listeners of their Digital content. They treat and speak to everyone as if they’re a bunch of toddlers. It’s extremely insulting. Furthermore, within the last 15 years or more, Watchtower have Made so many crazy doctrinal changes that seriously contradict long time teachings and Jehovahs Witness standards. Again, I don’t recognize this religion anymore. They’ve become extremely uninviting. I don’t know how anyone can buy into this stuff anymore.

[@kinazz19]

@@archangel5627 you be surprised how tight of a grip they have on people my dad is a witness and I can’t get him to look at any other material everything I show him or try to talk to him about is all apostate material.I hate this religion it has ruined my life and torn my family apart but yet they say they are loving!!

[@tbryan5437]

By demonizing ex-jw's, they effectively eliminate those best able to refute their false teachings. Brilliant.

[@Ljy2wp]

"Worldly" people have treated me better than any JW. At my JW grans funeral, a JW man I had known since a child ignored me and only comforted my JW family. I'm not even disfellowshipped just faded, it just made me realise how glad I am to have nothing to do with it. How is that a loving organisation!?

[@barbarahedges1791]

They put fear in this guy that if he went over to give you some comfort it would contaminate him or fill his body with demons that would jump off you and jump in him. No, the reality is what the watch tower feared is you might tell him things you know about the cult that they do not want their cult members to know so they scare them so they won't even speak to you.

[@Marcos-em5yf]

I'm facing the same situation too. It's sickening🤢🤮

[@kaputkompa1866]

There is no love, just judgement and piety even from fleshly brothers, sisters, moms and dads, the organization trumps everything. They will throw you away and leave "worldly" people to pick up the pieces. But just wait until they need something from you, you suddenly start existing again, what a joke..

[@maryshaffer8474]

Your a drag and they're are interested people who do want to serve is how I've had explained to me. Some are forgiven over and over while others are trashed for nothing. Odd and unexplainable.

[@seanobrien2306]

The Jehovah's Witnesses ( Elders ) are brainwashing and mind control narcissist, and "demanding", mealy-mouthed hypocrites ! ! Their (JW) threats' and intimindation and scare tactics' on (disfellowship) of their members is appalling and disgraceful, and ( ruining the lives ) of their membership, including families' and friends'.. The JW ( Elders ) show "no sign of love, understanding and forgiveness, taught by Jesus Christ." * "No more stress, anxiety, depression caused by the Jehovah's Witnesses, especially the bullying, demanding JW ( Elders )." Sincerely in Christ.., Mike in Montana :)

[@morpheus5302]

I wish everyone currently "studying" with the witnesses could watch this video.

[@watchandjewelryloft4713]

Wish my parents who are shunning me would too.

[@amandasaunders3493]

I'm listening to this with my JW boyfriend within earshot. I know he is listening (he's made a few quick remarks but has mostly been quiet.) I just hope he is hearing.

[@beaumartin366]

@@amandasaunders3493 i hope it works, but i find it really works best when things slowly start to make less and less actual, logical sense. When you actually start to question the stories and the ways yourself from an outsider PoV, it really shows you how bad this cult is. Hopefully that video can trigger his thoughts to start that doubting process and he can get away without too much trouble. If it doesnt work, then try to start asking questions about what his PoV is on JW. And start slowly, every once and a while asking him one of the many questions that a JW cant answer with their apps. Seem innocent and curious at first until he realizes that there isn’t actually truth in “the truth”

[@amandasaunders3493]

@@beaumartin366 yes little by little ticking questions to get him thinking. He still says what people who have left JW have fallen to satan's trickery. See, he grew up in the organization but went off doing his own thing, living recklessly and then he was in a car accident that ended in a two month coma two years ago. His JW mother was by his side every day in hospital reading to him and singing and, forgive me, brainwashing him. He has traumatic brain injury. I think it was taking advantage of his situation. But truly I'm sure she believes what she did was for his own good. It has not been easy on him since because he doesn't just sit and do what his mother thinks he should. He is in his forties. But he still believes what he has been told. I will continue to learn more facts to offer to him.

[@beaumartin366]

@@amandasaunders3493 I am so sorry to hear about the experiences he has had to go through. I wish you the best and I am sure you know what you are doing when it comes to pacing and approach. I believe you can convince him and hopefully he believes you. Its always hard to revert a jw when being a witness is tied to overcoming a severe obstacle, but hopefully he is able to see you have the best intentions for him.

[@Laura.Gonzalez7]

I am horrified by that, I'm just beginning to study and I decided not to continue because I realized that nobody can't argue or ask questions. With this and other videos that you have uploaded I confirm that my decision is correct.

[@7eyeswideopen177]

He is encouraging to have your bible students to ask questions knowing full well that immediately they are baptised they can never asked another question and risk being marked an apostate. I gave over 65 years I'v faded being shunned I haven't even asked a single question but I am being treated as so I have. As I listen to him all I can imagine is hunt your prey, catch your prey, cage your prey and above all never release your prey. With absolute dread in my heart it's as though it's like a blood sport as I think of possibly thousands who have lost their life's because of the blood policy and sadly the many who have taken their lives because of the shunning. Am I the only one to think this? And no I'm not an angry apostate

[@theresefournier3269]

In other words, they want it all, including our time, body and brains! Plus, they want every one to doubt their own (treacherous) heart.

[@7eyeswideopen177]

@@theresefournier3269 exactly they hook you in than it's all about them. Leading up to 1975 we were encouraged to have anyone examine the organization and the literature there was nothing to hide we would only find the Truth. It was after that started using the term the Truth when referring to the organization. Then a huge crackdown on apostate's in the 80's from then on not allowed to ask any question regarding the organization. The trap was set and we didn't even see it coming

[@theresefournier3269]

@@7eyeswideopen177 Exactly! but, we finally did it! Better late than never. YAHsome!

[@birdlynn417]

'Ahh, that was well spoken and very real. So sad how people get treated this way. You nailed it perfectly, and I am sorry you had to experience all of this, but hope that you have found a church family somewhere new.

[@carolynlyfordsullivan1377]

You just mentioned another annoying thing. The leaders act like they are always talking to six year Olds.

[@logankoch7704]

Exactly

[@logankoch7704]

I’m Logan and I would like us to talk more conveniently if you don’t mind ?

[@carolynlyfordsullivan1377]

@Me Joseph I will try to find it

[@yvonne3903]

And their Bible studies are aimed at 4 year olds, because 6 year olds are too clever for this nowadays

[@jackiepowell7513]

Infantalizing

[@rodywithers3536]

Hey Lloyd, some months ago I commented that you were presenting topics that were superb and showed you were at the top of your game - a pretty full-on compliment. Now I’ve just watched your current presentation and man, this is even better. You marshal the concise arguments alongside the evidence and proceed with an unstoppable momentum. I have just watched possibly your best ever presentation. This one’s a keeper. Thank you so very much!

[@randtech2136]

Seconded. This was a powerful deconstruction! Editing is spot on too! Netflix soon!

[@takeyouryokeandlearnfromme1771]

What's that scripture where the Pharisees would cross seven seas and continents to save a gentile, but don't care about their fellow men? That's part of my awakening, the love bombing thrown at "interested ones," meanwhile you who has already been here for 30 years plus, is still viewed with suspicion and every move you make gets scrutinized and judged. You don't show up to the meeting one day, it means you're becoming inactive. Never mind all the meetings you've never missed since year 2000. Meanwhile an interested person has never been to the meeting since year 2000 and shows up to the memorial in 2016 and all of us are required to surround him and show him we miss him. Get tha F outta here with that BS. Not that I wasn't the brother in charge of coordinating the love bombing though. But yeah, it hits you when you one time are on the receiving end of that love bombing and remember what it really used to be.

[@knowthyself8233]

You nailed it.

[@alpaphoenix3252]

Matthew 23:15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.

[@MaleahsDiary]

👏👏👏👏

[@GaerwenYT]

Ah yes... I did that love bombing

[@raccoons_stole_my_account]

Ironically, the worst critique of GB is not Lloyd here, is not mr. Penton or dr. Hassan. It's their own Bible's account of pharisees. Giving people heavy yokes, praising themselves, treating others like am haaretz, putting tradition and form above humanity, love and spirit of the 'scriptures', ignoring a person in need so that samaritan(worldly) end up the real help, etc etc etc - they tick literally all the boxes!

[@Flossiest]

😃 I wish my significant other would wake up already this is a slow slow process of helping him see the truth about “the truth”!!! Thanks 🙏 Lloyd!!

[@Imissyoulou]

An EXTREMELY SLOW PROCESS, because they are brainwashed.

[@pip3626]

Omg same!!!! I just started waking up recently. Since early last year i stopped trying to be spiritual bc i got sock of not being good enough and this year i started looking into exjw stuff and I have lost faith in the religion. I will only leave if my so wants to leave. In the meantime I will wait. We will probably fade. I feel guilty bc I’ve been praying to Jehovah to help us get out of the religion 😢 I’m torn and confused 😔💔

[@pip3626]

Sick* lol i said 🧦

[@fifthdimension1984]

​@@pip3626 Just do your own thing and have friends outside the organisation. Eventually the bros will see what your "pattern" is and that its useless in trying to "help" you become zealous again. You just need to be mentally determined and keep more or less within the rules.

[@JESTERSCOOTER]

Sweetheart if he doesn't see the light I'll marry you after you leave him. I'll love to be your husband

[@brendandmcmunniii269]

Why do these cultists talk in that freaky weird way ? Yuck.

[@davidcarey2553]

Yes they do.

[@alomaalber6514]

hypnotism!

[@earthresident9909]

Almost like an Alfred Hitchcock movie

[@user-qn9tm8yp5b]

The result of being super controlling/aware of every syllable. They hold themselves to ridiculous standards in these public appearances, this creates this weird uncanny valley effect.

[@sadiesponge7577]

I went to a wedding years ago and there was a women sitting next to me at the reception. She was so interested in me and my life I was flattered. Most people are not that interested! Anyway I thought wow this person is really cool and we had a great conversation. After awhile she revealed she was a JW. I was studying at the time. We were in the same congregation. After that initial friendship she never bothered after that. If you are not strong in the religion, you wont get invited to some party's they have!

[@fifthdimension1984]

yep, thats about the way its done.

[@michellesekellick730]

Parties....my friend is one and tried to get me. I never saw or heard them have one get together yet alone party. They do nothing for the children except drag them through this BULLSHIT

[@sadiesponge7577]

@@michellesekellick730 Oh yeah. I feel very Sorry the children. They go through a really tough time. A lot of JWs have mental health issues because of the bullying they received.They stand out like a sore thumb with their uniform. Their skirts have to be really long, and many other issues they face while in public schools. I personally know a south Korean that went to prison because he would not do the military training. He has so much mental health problems. Poor guy.

[@felicitydeikos5250]

Yep, very true.

[@jeffdean64]

Regarding infantilization (#4), notice how often religious leaders (JW and others) introduce talking points by asking a question on behalf of their audience. This conditions believers to depend on their leaders for not only the right answers, but also for the right questions - further impeding them from asking truly critical questions of their own.

[@swinnburn]

It's to keep the mind's from distractions asking critical questions could and would be seen as upsetting the peace of the group,that is a religious group, cohesiveness is accepting and following it. Even if you do it in your own time,and find something off!? What do you do with the information?! If you discuss it with someone that's not in the group your probably safe. But try that on a member?! It's a risk. Gathering a group of like minded folk in a room with a book of riddles and strange tales is asking for some weird things to happen.😬

[@Bad80y1]

Thanks Lloyd. Keep them coming. It’s working for many to fully wake up. Me included.

[@davidpiren]

I served as an elder with that David Schafer guy. it was in Brooklyn Bethel, we went to a congregation in Brooklyn called Clarkson, Leon weaver was an elder there as well, crazy to see where he has ended up as a part of the org. he was a creepy dude in reflection, he did and said some messed up things

[@k7450]

Has he had plastic surgery?

[@davidpiren]

@@k7450 lol, not that I know of, He did have an acne problem when he was young and he had slightly "cottage cheese" skin

[@barbiechyqa9192]

Lol what did he do that was creepy?

[@davidpiren]

@@barbiechyqa9192 I would say the most creepy part of him is the feigned smile, like what the hell is that, I had to listen to that at least once a week at meetings.A brother in my book study had alcohol problems. Married burly nice island black man with two shy sons. We went to hospital to do an "Investigation" because he had overdosed on alcohol, The man started crying and shaking so I held his hand and tried to comfort him, David Schafer, after the visit counseled me because as he said , we were doing an investigation for serious sin and my actions were out of place. This didn't really sit well with me, it just didn't seem right. I usually just brush brother stuff aside like that, like big deal, but didn't feel right. anyways, one day later Schafer called me on Bethel phone to tell me that brother killed himself. I can still see the face of his wife and kids to this day, that was over 25 years ago, and I still hate him for that. When I first came to Bethel and started In his congregation he hd me do an audit on the cong.accounts since I was account servant in my previous congregation, After spending many hours of research and talking to other Bethel brothers who did account stuff I came to the conclusion that the previous account servant was stealing large amounts of money, It was a bethelite, and I was certain of this and the proof was undeniable, he completely brushed the evidence aside, like no consideration, he is brain smart so its not like he couldn't see the reasoning but you could see the hazed look on his face because he knew the ramifications of this and he was presiding overseer he would be partially to blame. To be honest outside of those instances and a par per cousse masterbation talk he gave me he was a pretty decent guy, Its funny to have heard a few of his parts on JW org because he kind of said the same thing he did in the congregation, like his usual recycled stuff.

[@ready2danceagain]

😳

[@Durawoody]

Amazing compilation Lloyd! Beautifully put together.

[@Jenni-tz3bq]

What is chilling is the laughter when Tony Morris blows out the match.

[@Des7iny7]

It’s like a horror movie.

[@hustonmices3976]

I wonder how he would respond to 1 Corinthian 13:5. That’s if he has ever read it

[@Onoesmahpie]

These people definitely rejoice in imagining anyone who speaks out against them being tortured eternally. Disgusting, and what they do to people's lives should get them life in prison

[@MaleahsDiary]

@@Onoesmahpie I think that would be fair. Many of their practices shouldn't be legal.

[@mr.atheist8848]

1:19:21 That laughter from the background is distressing. They're truly deeply indoctrinated in this cult

[@zmojofoot76]

I really feel they lie about the numbers of who were “attending” in 2020. The fact that a fair amount aren’t mentally in should make you check that.

[@xlortiz]

GB say the creepiest things with the MOST SINISTER smile ever! Yuck

[@CBrown86]

As someone that was trapped in a decade long relationship with a very covertly abusive individual it is hard enough to get the support and care needed to leave as a “worldly” person. Can you imagine being with an abusive partner in the “Truth”? Getting away is difficult enough. Add to that a whole congregation that thinks your spouse is just wonderful and an organization that in every way supports the male partner being in control of the family and their finances, and you are surrounded by people that will never believe you and gaslight you on behalf of the abusive partner. Its absolutely a trap.

[@akatheheretic3014]

Than your only alternative 🤷. . is to Run like (hell) Ms. Brown ! 😬

[@mrssomuchmore7193]

1:03:45 gaslighting...anyone else have throwbacks to the movie The Island?? (2005 Scarlett Johannsen and Ewan MacGregor)

[@subversivelycross3320]

This was my exact scenario with a sociopath; as a born-in female there is no support, only gossip currency. Once they soil your reputation you will never regain credibility (not that you were allowed it to begin with). There is no “sin” necessary when you call a JW man out on his bad behavior, but you will see how fast false information travels with an attempt to stand up for yourself. Each Elder visit was damage control, information extraction, blame shifting and coercion; none of it love, but it was interesting to hear slander about yourself from the lips of Perfect Pioneer Princesses who weren’t behind those closed-door conversations. They had a hard-on over the amount of abuse and subsequent trauma endured. Conditional love is a real eye opener.

[@Imissyoulou]

Yes, the man is control. About 20 years ago, a man worked for the Chicago Transit Authority, that was a JW. His daughter, did not find his wallet, or something of that nature, and he beat her to death. THE MOTHER WAS THERE. His last name was, Shipp. I knew some people that worked with him, and they said, he was ALWAYS attempting to tell them about the bible. I don't get involved with religion, I just live by the Golden Rule, and it has worked well for me.

[@akatheheretic3014]

@@Imissyoulou No Religion ? Consider yourself Blessed. 😏

[@timothypfalzgraf7758]

"One of my good friends died".....So I joined the Witnesses and learned how to turn off my emotions and disconnect from others.

[@birdlynn417]

Wow, bingo, you said it right.

[@timothypfalzgraf7758]

@@birdlynn417 I was borne and raised in this cult. I know exactly how they operate and treat each other. My family was ruined by them. Don't be fooled, they are dangerous.

[@ThatBlueSponge]

That’s the deal, you got it!

[@longbeachwoman]

Wow!! Thanks Lloyd. As a PIMO myself, my degree is in sociology and when doing research we need all the facts. As a mental health specialist and seeing my own parents get divorced; it is a stressful and depressive time for everyone but necessary when the marriage is abusive and dangerous. That’s why there is therapy, support groups etc.. because it is hard and people do suffer even when the divorce is necessary. 😞😞😞😞

[@barbarahedges1791]

You are right about the divorce, even when the kids are adults they are affected. Most people will want the kids to be on one side or the other. They should remember the kids in most cases love their mother and love their father and should not be used as a tool to be taken away from one of the spouces.

[@lostman8598]

"What does it say about an organization that has to stoop to such manipulation tactics?" I don't know. What does it say about a God who has to threaten to kill anyone who doesn't love him enough?

[@cathieolson5056]

This is so true! I can clearly see, so many forms of manipulation were used on me. I was in this cult for 18 years. I was also taught to use this in the ministry. My daughters & I were regular Pioneers. So happy we are out! The sad thing is, I still have one daughter in there. She hasn’t spoken to us in years or allowed us to see our Grandchildren. Brother Lett was a circuit overseer in the congregation we attended.

[@latoyacooper9513]

🌹's from a disfellowshipped JW, 1st time seeing these videos since last night. I was going to come back but after the information no thanks. I'm in a shock stage I grew up in the truth I mean grew up being JW since I was a girl.

[@paulthomas6048]

Lloyd I so admire you for sitting through hours from the organisation, I can hardly watch the clips you show for your rebuttal. I left years ago and it is so awful and embarrassing to watch, although their message hasn’t changed.

[@vinegar10able]

Great that Lloyd has got this video out on the day England was playing Croatia. I am grateful for his enormous hard work in exposing what this high control religious group is up to.

[@-Zer0Dark-]

So glad you included the misquotes in "Life: How did it get here?" When I first came away, I went through that book paragraph by paragraph, and looked up the original sources of every quote they used. EVERY SINGLE ONE of them was a lie. And what was even more egregious is that I recalled a talk given by a visiting speaker in which he used the very concept of quote mining as an example of how dishonest and untrustworthy Satan's world is. The veil didn't fall away--it was ripped from my eyes. Good job, Witnesses. 👍🏻

[@HerrBockwurst]

Thank you Lloyd for all of your work. This video helped me alot. Especially gaslighting was new for me and i think its a point where i still suffer. I'm 1 year out and getting professional help dealing with my past as jw. Doubts about my judgment still accompany me today, now i also have a name for it.

[@beekind14]

The whole "your best is never good enough" thing really messed me up the most. I remember asking as a kid what I had to do to be fairly sure I'd survive Armageddon. I was told "just do your best". I ruminated on that for years and years. My best? I could always do more so what is my best? Is it 20 hours a day in study? Is it reading the Bible back to back once a week? I was working part time and pioneering from the age of 14. I did presentations and talks (that a sister could do) I was the go-to stand in for cancellations the night of for the TMS. I volunteered for cleaning duties and quick builds. The elders would come to me to ask me to "encourage" certain "spirituality weak" young wans. I learned another language to preach in. I still was terrified I wasn't doing enough. I didn't have money to donate. I wasn't getting enough Bible studies. I wasn't "placing" enough literature. I should do more than 70 hours a month if I stopped going to the gym and seeing friends... I ended up getting so sick and burned out, that I had to step down. And ironically, that was basically the start of my shunning. When it was announced everyone assumed if done something wrong. Not that any of them were even pioneering in the first place... It's taken a decade to realise and start to undo this conditioning of never feeling good enough. I have an anxiety disorder (as well as PTSD) that I attribute to the constant dread and urgency that was impressed upon me from a formative age. This sucks. Thanks for highlighting these tactics, it's so important to be aware of, for waking up, but also for healing.

[@pip3626]

Omg this is the reason why I’m starting to wake up. I’ve never done pioneering or anything extra bc i never felt like i would be good enough 😢 and I always have brothers and sisters up my butt telling me to do more. I have severe depression and anxiety since i was young so it’s always been hard to stick to any kind of routine. I’m married and my husband never did anything extra either bc he’s afraid he wouldn’t be any good. (Thanks to his parents making him feel useless). The thought of Armageddon has always freaked me out until recently. I feel like god is not as cruel and jws make him seem. I only recently have felt that I matter and that I am good enough. I’m 23 :}}}}} and barely now feel that I am valid and I don’t need to make hours. Those rules are man made. Jesus never talked about hours. I want to fully wake up and hopefully help my husband wake up as well. Sorry for the long response but this is the first one that relates to my feelings 🥺

[@fifthdimension1984]

I do have to agree with your sentiments - whatever one does, the view is you can do more. The ultimate objective it seems that everybody is a pioneer and works part time to get by. The thing is though, they say you have to also show "balance" - as in running a family has more responsibility that being single etc . But yes, the constant emphasis of preach, preach, preach at every opportunity - always having literature in your back pocket etc- as seemingly being the ONLY worthwhile activity you can engage in can drive some very nuts- Ok you can do some WHOLESOME entertainment like sing kingdom songs away from the hall with fellow witnesses at a dinner ( mind you you have to be alert that your associates are suitable company because we are warned that even fellow witnesses may not be really "suitable" eg those that dont "go out" enough). The thing is, in reality, in my experience many witnesses DONT carry on like that even if they are constantly being told to do so. I have known many "highly committed and dedicated" witness families whose kids did go to Uni and got an education etc and were not influenced by "decadent worldly views". So basically one shouldn't get obsessed with trying to do everything the "society" says. Just do your own thing within "the rules" and if others want to think otherwise,- DO NOT worry about it. I never really gave a stuff what others thought. But I know that in the background, every witness is more or less judged / assessed by "the hours" they put in . Not all elders do that though, just some of the more zealouts. If you slack off, they will visit you as "shepherding" calls etc - sometimes as a surprise visit- and pretend ( yes, its a pretense) to care about you. If you don't respond ( = attend more meetings + step up preaching etc) , you are visited less often, labelled as "inactive" ( and therefore not one to be associated with of course) then visited only infrequently to once in a while maybe. They may ask you if you if its Ok for the CO or DO ( the heavy guns) come for a visit- I always said no its not necessary and left it at that. Lots of mind games which is not for everyone of course.

[@eppuparanormaali1999]

I wish You well. You'll get over these thing, by being stubborn about your well-being. Now that there aren't abusive things along, You have all the time in the world to recover. Just find out the person You really are.

[@kellymore2527]

Sounds all too familiar having been a jw for over 40 years bending over backwards & nor being good enough to even be invited to some of JWS houses for a cuppa.

[@devonjones221]

This is my life, thanks for sharing

[@Maknassar]

New Video: +1hour "why is this so long???" After watching: "how is it already over" It's so satisfying listening to you Lloyd, I love your voice and also how you explain stuff without dumbing it down

[@damonrandall9844]

Very informative and well researched discussion. As an ex-JW I’ve seen just about all of these tactical deceptions and even though I’ve been out for 31 years, I still cannot erase the images of Armageddon and of my own sentence of death carried out by Jehovah. So if the JW’s teachings are the truth, then I have no choice but to accept that I am an enemy of God and have the blood of my wife and my children on my hands. As frightening as the threat of Armageddon is, I REFUSE TO AND DO NOT let what was drilled into my brain rule me or dictate how I live my life. What pissed me off in this video was the disgusting laughter that followed the sickening illustration of that pompous asshole! Thank you so much for helping to open people’s eyes to the JW deception. You’re awesome! Sorry this was so long.

[@MadailinBurnhope]

I wasn't brought up JW, but I was brought up Evangelical-Charismatic Christian, and the idea that asserting yourself and saying No was "violence" (the flipside of "coercion is kindness") is very familiar

[@logankoch7704]

That is nice of you I’m Logan Koch I would like us to talk more conveniently if you don’t mind

[@LittleZelda]

Man, after watching this if I had to choose between my major depression and anxiety and becoming a Jehovah's witness I'd stick with the major depression and anxiety, because ironically I'd be happier.

[@jimmyb3158]

Excellent video Lloyd. This is probably one of your best videos yet both in content and editing. Thanks as always and keep it up.

[@cherylbertucci8167]

Gee, being told to ask questions but get disciplined for asking questions.

[@jewell92]

Only approved questions .

[@halleluyah757]

Rhetorical question that Do Not require actual answers

[@ready2danceagain]

Wahoo, that clarifies it❣

[@cassandrasmith5265]

I was just thinking the same thing🥲🥲

[@ladyflea3105]

Only questions with "obvious" answers discussed in watchtower articles. So they can then make you feel like an idiot who doesn't know how to "research" and is "spiritually weak"

[@PeterMosier]

Thank you Lloyd! I can’t begin to imagine how much time goes into the research needed to make this video. Curating this information and putting it together in this collection provides a valuable resource to many people. Thanks again!

[@TheVipir]

As a uni. student I was taught to check quoted sources for veracity, relevance, and validity. Doing this I passed my subjects. So where did my brain go when reading the books and Awake! articles? No scholarly research by me at all. I am so embarrassed. I took them at their word 😞

[@jewell92]

Please thank Tibor for all his work. Much appreciated!

[@ZackBurnsOG]

"What are you waiting for? God loves you." I literally started gagging I RL

[@DiEdraStinson]

FABULOUS coverage, Lloyd! 👏👏👏👏

[@raventreefrog2305]

Outstanding well pointed video presentation. Thank you Lloyd. Glad to be a supporter via Patreon. 🙂

[@romulorodrigues5298]

A masterpiece

[@mlove.1376]

Lloyd, I am so grateful for all of the information that you have given me. It has set me free from doubt 40 years later. I am free from that inner doubt held in my subconscious. Thank you for a service to all who have lived in fear for so long that you have exposed. I can hardly express my gratitude to you and how this is a major step to me healing. Wishing you love, peace, joy and wonder.

[@franktobia4169]

Great work, It's all about manipulation with that organization

[@katiediaz]

OH M G! I can't believe I was today years old when I finally understood what always bothered me with this about JW's. It's always rubbed me the wrong way that they do their little presentations teaching other members how to handle these conversations. I have never been able to find the words to explain it to family members. Nail on the head! I just found your channel and I'm so grateful for your videos.

[@Alltheshiny.reneeowens]

JWs are afraid to ask questions because it usually means being marked or disfellowshipped. lol

[@logankoch7704]

Haha cool

[@logankoch7704]

I’m Logan Koch and I would like us to have more conversations if you don’t mind

[@fifthdimension1984]

yes, its not advised to be asking a lot of questions- partly because there is no one to answer them impartially. If you write to the branch with a query about something - they wont answer unless you state who you are and where you are from - and then they know who you are and where from and if you ask too many "unsuitable " questions, they will let the local elders know that you are doing this and you will be "marked" as an agitator.

[@bobbielee9250]

I myself am a Christian. I grew up next door to witnesses, so I totally understand how the cult works. Fast forward 40 years , and same neighbor has not gone to a meeting in well over 30 years , and doesn’t conduct herself as a witness , but the MOMENT you speak on it , she will not even listen. One thing that new to me after finding your videos , which I love, are these folks that speak at these conventions . 😳😳😳😳 They honestly appear as robots!! I thought at least they would have some charm yo try to convince folks. I can’t believe the witness’s can’t see through these men. One is worse than the other! Keep up the good work !

[@markusbrauns4274]

Steven Lett saying don't be afraid to admit you don't know something. Too bad they don't apply that to Armageddon, just around the corner, for the last 100 years.

[@visearms5774]

That really applies to every single doctrine they have. They don't have good reasons for anything they believe.

[@Imissyoulou]

@@visearms5774 They have been predicating, Armageddon, for years. I am waiting for it to happen.

[@naomiwillemsen9836]

While listening what you say in min 13:.. : I faded through 2007-2009 (while I was 23-25yrs old) and then completely stopped any activity or identification with JW’s. Only as of a few months ago I was certain enough to say out loud to my (non-JW) husband that I’ll Never go back. He was not surprised to hear, but I was relieved I finally acknowledged! You are part of my full awakening that my family is under control of a cult... Was born and raised in it... Got some healing to do and hug my inner child for all the hurt she started feeling... had been ignoring her for 15yrs... Thank you for what you are doing. The way you expose them is really effective. I was always convinced that people who were out, could only speak in a destructive way about the people in it (including my family, who I still care for). Thanks for opening my eyes. I dare opening the door to my past again without heavy emotions, by listening to you and few others, to remember again and understand my triggers and why my inner child is so hurt and emotional at moments while I’m living with my own values now and choosing other than I was conditioned

[@Mrs.dat4302]

Another brilliant video Lloyd. Thank you for your work in continuing to shine light on watchtower manipulating it's members, as well as the general public.

[@jackshishlack3562]

Lloyd, you are getting better I enjoy your vids more and more

[@RedheadPhoto]

I lost my best friend to this cult. She had been out of it for 20 years then about 3 months ago she started going again. I'm not sure how she doesn't see the craziness of it. We've been best friends for 9 almost 10 years. During that time she was always a leader never a follower. Then being last year she started going through some rough times. I was by her side every day trying to help her through it. But because of these hard times she started searching for something to make her happy. She started going to Bible study with her grandmother and before I knew it she had jumped whole heartily back into it. Since I am not a witness it started putting a widget in between our friendship. I really hate that things have turned out the way it has. I wish nothing but happiness for her. If she finds happiness in the witness then great but I'm afraid that it's going to turn into a disaster. If it does I'll be here if she needs me. I love her like my sister and hope for nothing but the best for her.

[@birdlynn417]

She wanted to feel part of a family and belonging.

[@annaprice7271]

This is one of your best videos ever Lloyd!! They’re all great but this one nails them! Great great work!!❤️

[@jdxo7413]

That's how my Mom got indoctrinated and subsequently indoctrinated the entire family. The witnesses "preyed" on her in a very vulnerable time. My grandmother had just died and from what I remember they really pushed the paradise on her.

[@buruku34]

From now on I am your fan, Lloyd. Even I am spanish so I miss some words, the way you speak is so clear!! Thank u for this videos, I Hope to see them all. Thank you.

[@rosscob3107]

These videos are great tools for members questioning “the truth” only wish I had this kind of resource when I was a teenager stumbling through the JW garbage, it would have saved a lot of hurt and confusion, keep up the good work!

[@birdlynn417]

Thank you, for presenting this, it has helped me work through what I was caught up in trying to do the lessons and thinking that maybe I wanted to join. It seems there only goal is to go out and train other people about how to know God and become a member of their organization knocking on doors, and if you don't evangelize then you can't be a member.

[@danieldaviddaponsse3145]

You did a great work here, Lloyd...again. Really useful video. Thanks so much.

[@TECNONEWS2020]

Excellent video. A very noble job of you to dedicate time to helping people, as you helped me. Thanks to you and whoever makes these videos possible.

[@omarseneriz5577]

Amazing work here, thank You Lloyd

[@randtech2136]

This is an important breakdown of the techniques used! 💯

[@oppimiskyla]

Great analysis! I have to dig deeper into ways of manipulation... extremely interesting. I sudiet filoligy In university as a JW, believe it or not ;), and learned to analyze written texts and discourses. Saw a lot of manipulation in our literature and got a little sceptic and reserved towards the JW hence detecting these ways of influencing thinking. But kept going with the organization for 2 decades. No waiting for the right moment to turn in my disassociation letter.

[@HGANGHONY]

True friends that will drop you the moment you leave the Watchtower. Even though you decide such a move is in your best interest, for your well being.

[@ThatBlueSponge]

Because they were never your friends to begin with. Their loyalty is not to Jehovah or following Jesus steps but following the rules of an organization. Following man-made rules such as the ones the Pharisees would impose into people. Remember you are not allowed to think on your own and need to be obedient to the faithful and discreet slave.

[@cinderella4499]

That was the thing when I was in. I didn’t feel the Joy I was told I should have. I’d have it fleetingly, when I’d have a great experience or something, but overall, no. I fought depression the whole time. I fought it like some demon was chasing me, ( with very little encouragement may I add) and feeling like no matter how hard I worked or tried it would never be enough and I didn’t feel joyful and blessed the way they said I should. And that was my fault too! I had suicidal ideation because that painful feeling would just not go away. It wasn’t brought on by the world, because I was very much out of the world. Since I have left, it is like a giant weight is off my shoulders,

[@birdlynn417]

Yes, good girl, so glad you feel free now.

[@dlepuno]

What a brilliant and well researched content, thank you once again Llyod & team🤗

[@tgstel7168]

One of my favourite videos yet Lloyd. Thank you 🙏🏻

[@frozentspark2105]

JW's in Russell's day were a publishing company. Everything they teach to existing followers is to teach you how to expertly sell the publications or message.

[@alomaalber6514]

one of the songs in the songbook was the same as the vaudeville song "what a fine business it is"!

[@fifthdimension1984]

@@alomaalber6514 That's really funny actually if its true.

[@alomaalber6514]

@@fifthdimension1984 yep, true, a George Burns fave tune with different lyrics!

[@dave9242]

You do a great job explaining the true motives behind everything they do. Some of their tactics are so shady that I never noticed them until you expose them. Thanks and keep Tbore happy because he's the most gracious person on Earth.

[@sebastianvelcro]

"I was vulnerable and they got me, that is the story." Every. Single. Time. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME!! Their members are just taken from a pool of vulnerable people, and then those people are manipulated into acting for the organization. So gross.

[@milham76]

True. There is a ' prison elder' who's job it is to preach to inmates. If that's not hitting them when they're vulnerable...... .

[@jessicanerpio-cauldwell4987]

Scenario... you're broken down out of luck... You pray to God for help... Suddenly Knocking at the door... Hello (JW) would you like a free bible study ?...We know the outcome...the rest is history !!! 😲🤨😱

[@cathieolson5056]

They got to me after my Dad died.

[@FishOuttaWater26]

Thats how I had gotten in 🥺😪 on top of the multiple traumas ive had in life (i didnt grow up JW), I feel so taken advantage of and now have even more healing to do because of this cult

[@fifthdimension1984]

Ya think? However, it might be also that the message of the kingdom is really quite attractive to many people. It makes sense to me even if I dont always agree on the methods to sell the message.

[@ybrynecho2368]

I never yelled at them; I just ask to be put on the "Do not call." list. Now I'm in a controlled entry high-rise condo in a gated community. No JWs and no Mormons. Although, about 6 months ago I got a call from the JWs. I told the lady I wasn't interested in her cult, TVM and hung up.

[@michelleamaya6446]

Did they call your cell phone ? Or house phone ?

[@ybrynecho2368]

@@michelleamaya6446 I only use my house phone. Cell phone is for emergency only.

[@roxycastleton1350]

I will never go back to them after the way they treated me, and I know it is not the truth just a cult.

[@logankoch7704]

Hello hello I’m Logan Koch and I would like us to talk more conveniently if you don’t mind

[@fifthdimension1984]

If you relied on them to provide you with your entire social network that was a mistake. You need to have a life inside and outside the organisation.

[@emilyhanson4875]

“You might scare them off!” Now wait a second, David-what do they have to be scared of? Why would they be scared if your religion is such a boon to life? 🤔

[@DanielBrown-nw9xo]

Had an elder call my phone for the first time in 13 years this past saturday and he tried to use that very same tactic. Asking questions to seem like he cares using an enfantalising tone 🙄

[@fifthdimension1984]

Yes thats precisely true. I get elders ring me, some whom I NEVER actually met to say "can we come around" etc , but I just say, that wont be necessary. I'll call you when I want a visit. You need to be mentally tough unfortunately in the same way to resist sales callers/ spuikers etc on the phone. If you are weak and give in, well you may get badgered endlessly.

[@robinrobyn1714]

( Cart) Witness:' I'm Nita! What's your name?!' Me:' Robin!'. Nita:' Robin! Like the bird!' Me:' No. Robin,as in robbin a bank with a sawed off shotgun!!!!'

[@FishOuttaWater26]

Hahahaha i love it. Please tell me it made them squirm!! 🤣👌🏻

[@robinrobyn1714]

@@FishOuttaWater26 Oh yes!! The girl's smile froze!!!.... 😆😆

[@henricusteunissen6646]

Hi Lloyd, it’s George Orwell’s ’Nineteen Eight-Four’ all the way. Left the organization myself 32 years ago. Great analysis!

[@bhanson4917]

I have been out for about 20 years, but I still remember an elder giving a talk during the service meeting when he suggested looking at the obituaries in the local news paper and cross referencing the last names in the local phone book (small town, a long time ago) and calling on potential relatives of recently deceased people to call on them when they were "in a time of need". Disgusting.

[@jacquelinedenham4055]

Terrible and so insensitive that 😞

[@ashleyhunter9140]

This is a gem going into my saved videos files. I hope to one day share it with my family too. ❤️‍🩹 Also, I had always wanted to talk to the protesters outside of the convention buildings. I bet they were actually very kind and interesting people.

[@zuglymonster]

Wow I'm actually here on time 🤣

[@Unsensitive]

No good cult leader will let a tragedy go to waste!

[@Angie-ht2gi]

Brilliant video Lloyd! So helpful!

[@scraps1177]

Watching in eastern Germany great stuff as always

[@madamecurious]

Hallo Scr Aps! Wachen in Deutschland jetzt auch endlich mehr auf?

[@angelamaryquitecontrary4609]

Hoffentlich so, wie überall.

[@ladyflea3105]

This video should have the alternate title: Jehovah's Witnesses Explain How to Become a Master Narcissistic Sociopath

[@catmeow333]

26:10 Lett says that ‘acting like we’re informed when we’re not is actually dishonest…. and probably motivated by pride’ gee, you mean like old light ?

[@maryannlockwood7806]

🙄💡

[@FishOuttaWater26]

Haha or misquoting experts too! 😂

[@messynessygrace9182]

When I was studying with them before I got baptised all the pioneers used to come to are house I would make them dinner there would be 5 or 6 off them when we got baptised they stopped coming I asked the lady that did my study why they did not come around anymore she said it was because they couldn’t count there time anymore I could not believe that was what they were doing 😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@milham76]

What??? Are you freaking serious? They were counting their time at lunchtime? That is the most nauseating thing I have ever heard.

[@ThatBlueSponge]

😂😂😂 OMG that was savage!

[@ThatBlueSponge]

@@milham76that’s why they preach (giving pamphlets) to the people when lunching at a McDonald’s to keep counting hours.

[@elizabethbaird3604]

I have a severe mental illness and have had many episodes of psychosis. For about 18 months I was regularly visited by a Jay-Dub woman. At first, I knew she wanted to convert me but we got to the point where I thought we had become good friends. She was so kind and caring and she knew how lonely and miserable I was. She promised me that she wouldn’t turn her back on me even if I became unwell and was mean to her. I did become unwell, but the main way I expressed it was to finally confess that I never intended to become a Jay-Dub. I told her that I really valued our friendship and hoped she would keep coming to see me. The next time I saw her, she was rushing to visit her dying Mum in hospital. I gave her a big hug and said “I was unwell when you last saw me”. She said “I know”. I haven’t heard from her since.

[@GwenPidgeon]

Watching on Long Island NY. good afternoon

[@dervish108]

Me too!

[@logankoch7704]

Hello hello I’m Logan Koch and I would like us to talk more conveniently if you don’t mind

[@zacharyvonroeder6873]

Love your content and prud to be a patreon. The evidence you supply from their own videos and publications reaffirms me I made the right choice when I called bullshit and walked away. Thanks for your due diligence to dig up that original 1979 article on divorce. Keep up the great work, you're helping a lot of people to break the mental chains of this cult. You can really see jehovah's hand in this!😜

[@Rookietolife]

How do I get in contact with you!! I am from upstate New York lived in a town called Elmira… my parents became Jehovah’s Witnesses when I was of the age of 3… I had a traumatic childhood living with an abusive father, at the age of 14 my parents became divorced which led to my mother becoming disfellowshipped. My father continued to stay and still is giving himself to that organization and my sister recently went back into the religion and is now looking to become baptized… I am now 45 and I’ve lived with guilt for many years but I have managed on my own to keep reassure myself that I am a good a kind, loving, caring mother, sister, aunt and wife. But I would love to share my story and many of my friends who were Jehovah’s Witnesses and what they went through I know people that have committed suicide I know people who turned to drugs I know people who are alcoholics I’m still in contact with these people and they struggle as well… i’ve been to Bethel with my family when I was young we got invited I’ve seen so much… And if I never speak to you person to person I just want to say thank you!! Thank you for what you’re doing by bringing to light what going on in that organization… I feel like not just a house that was been lifted off my shoulders but the entire world has been lifted off my shoulders. And I for once in my life I truly feel peace with in my soul!!! Thank you for all you are doing my friend ❤️

[@younce-davis952]

I am reading Steven Hassans book on cult mind control and am recognizing some recruiting tactics mentioned in that book