$12,600 for a used jazz vinyl record album ? Is it really worth it ??

$12,600 for a used jazz vinyl record album ?
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[@vbathory3757]

$560US is the most I’ve spent. But it was for an LP that I’ve wanted for the last 29 years and is limited to 314 copies. It’s not something I do often at all, and I’m pretty much getting to a point where I have most of the grails that I want.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Cool, with that pressing count it must be ultra rare ? Thank you very much for your comments ✌️

[@scottchapman3555]

Hello Kenny, I love your channel, I'm starting out, collecting vinyl records, where Iive it's hard finding, the great jazz artists that I love, I went to a flee market the other day, I found a lot of great albums, I spent around $160, the problem was, I didn't look at the records, some of them were dirty and scratched up, I cleaned them up the best I could, some of them will have some hiss and pop, Oh Well, I still love the album, I'm learning, to me, its like stepping back in time, listening to my vinyl records, it's a fun hobby!

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

I'm sure that you will not make that mistake again...look on the positive side, at least it happened early in your record collecting journey 😊. I hope that you enjoy the music and record collecting. Thank you very much for watching my videos 😊 ✌️

[@AlanSenzaki]

Bill Barrons nice!! I have still looking for his one he's in a telephone booth!😮

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

He is nice for sure and that album that I have is great 👍

[@bf0189]

I once spent $120 on a acetate test pressing of a single song that was never released nor was it available digitally. First thing I did was transfer it at 24/96 high res digital, cleaned it up then resold it a few years later for a bit more. I wish I had a way to transfer it to DSD at the time since DSD but its no big deal. The music is way more important than the rarity or percieved value of something for me.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Thank you very much for sharing that...sounds like you got the rare music and the cash 😊

[@sidvicious3129]

Hi Kenny, first off thank you for your recommendation of that Joint Venture Record it is fantastic, especially on the Hana ML. I think 12,600 is a lot of money for the record, but you have to put it into perspective. A person that has that kind of money to spend is in a different financial position than most, so it's possible that $12,600 is like $120.00 or even $12.00 to that person, for that person the money wasn't the issue. I buy used like you, but times have changed and even used stores and thrift stores are over pricing for vinyl due to the resurgence, accounting for inflation. The most that I have ever spent was on my Beatles Mono Box set at $600, but I have had offers to buy it for much more than that. I prefer original copies but will buy a re-issue until I come across an original if that happens. Think of an Original Pressing like you are building an old 1950-1975 car and you want it to have all original parts, that's what original pressings mean to others. Of course you can buy a newer car with more features, but what is the fun in that, it's easy. I buy UHQRs, Mo-Fi and Tone Poets and my wife who does support my hobbies, thinks $35-150, tone poet or UHQR is ridiculous, and this applies to other people that I know, but I may feel that a bicycle at $3000 is expensive or a bowling ball at $300-500 or even golf clubs at $5000 is high. There has only been one time that my wife actually advised me to spend $190 on a record and that was Michael Jackson's History 3LP album. She did this because she knew that Jackson was made to re-record the album due to a word that he used that the Jewish Population found to be offensive and she said this would probably increase the value and she was right. I also bought Jackson's Blood on the Dance floor and it's gone up to 3-4 times what I paid for it. Records values like anything else is determined by rarity, but you are right Kenny, a light of times the new pressings are mastered better. This all depends on your financial position, personal enjoyment and love for your hobby. Imagine people with 15-million-dollar homes, Rolex watches, and 1-million-dollar cars, it's all prospective, depending on income. Look at what we both spent for that Hana ML cartridge in the eyes of others. There are people who spend over 12,600 on Amps, Speakers, Turntables, Phono Preamps, DACS, Preamps, Tone Arms and yes Phono Cartridges. Heck some non-audiophiles would think that we are all crazy for spending what we do on home audio, where $12,600 can be a drop in the bucket. Life is short and I say do what makes you happy and what you can afford. I was taught early, never judge another man or women life through your eyes, because you will never be happy with the results.

[@cameronleehorace]

Those fairs you go to were either a long time ago or are super cheap. Your record collection finds are crazy and really cheap. I can never find anything used and record shops are so expensive.

[@bkatbamna]

I've had great luck with buying Classical LP lots from ebay. Lucky for me , classical music is not popular enough to cause a feeding frenzy.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

It's cool that classic albums fly under the radar price wise compared to other genres 😊

[@aa5az423]

$125 MoFi CTA (Chicago), 1979. There were several at the time in the $200 range, so I was happy. RE: the $12,600 album is just fine. If that’s what the guy wants, let him have it. $12,600 is different for different folks.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

I agree with your last comment, it's worth the $12600 to the buyer and that's all that matters.

[@AlanSenzaki]

$400 for near mint Sonny Rollins at Villiage Vanguard on Blue Note and $350 on Pharoah Saunders 1st original ESP disc with Jane Getz on piano.🙏😮

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Those a reasonable prices to get the great jazz music that you love and enjoy 😄

[@lyndellwilliams5890]

I grew up in the late mid to late 70's and 80's so I remember hearing seeing older people play records. When I got older I remember the high quality of music I heard on those records so I see how someone especially from that time period could get into collecting records. My opinion is do what makes you happy. I remember when I first started buying albums feeling the excitement of my heart pounding thinking, I wonder how it's going to sound? Those at the time were compact disc & tapes but my taste had been shaped by what I heard on vinyl in the 70's & 80's. One of the things I remember hearing people say that own records is you get better sound quality on vinyl. If this is true and being that I like high quality sound, then there's a legit reason for someone to take up such a hobby. To all the vinyl collectors out there, right on. 👍 ✌️

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Well said my brother 👏....thanks as always for watching my videos ✌️

[@lyndellwilliams5890]

@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews Thanks. Did you get a chance to checkout that Rick Beato George Benson interview?

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Yes, I watched it Friday night and the interview and George Benson was phenomenal.

[@lyndellwilliams5890]

@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews He's definitely a great for sure. Other than that, the reason I picked Kid Creole and the Coconuts album (Doppelganger) is it's all over the place. People at the time knew who they were but you didn't get the full level of grade A entertainment until you saw them live. Prince even said they were his favorite group. I think you'll really enjoy it when you get around to listening to it? I live in Florida so the weather here is similar to where you live, just a bit warmer. Also Kid Creole and the Coconuts did a live performance in 2010 Annie I'm not your Daddy(Night of the Proms). It's on youtube if you want to check it out. The crowd went crazy. 👍

[@churchillsliver2259]

$1200 for a Nick drake first press. A real jewel in my crown.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

It's cool that you can do that and add it to what I assume is a great collection 😊 ✌️

[@churchillsliver2259]

@@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews if I have my eye on something I’ll put in the overtime a get it.

[@churchillsliver2259]

If the wife gives me the go ahead. That means I can spend overtime money on it. This happens few and far between. Your videos are great.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Thank you very much for watching videos 😊 ✌️

[@trondam]

50USD for a used record till now. Thanks for your video 😎👍

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

$50 is very reasonable. Thanks as always for watching my videos ✌️

[@marvinsbprealty5760]

Most I've paid was $50 for NM og Eric Dolphy "outward bound"

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Nice price for a amazing jazz artist 👏 👍 🎶

[@homerjones3291]

Myself, I’ve spent about $30 for a great Woodstock copy. Now, I would think that a dealer spent $12.6k for the record and figures they can make a good profit off of it. OG pressings (in very good shape) can have a magic that later issues may not. I have sone OGs that sound great but they are scratched up or gouged from cheap record players, but the magic can shine through even if there’s a lot of noise/even skips. For those of us who either can’t afford or find a pristine OG we’ll have to be satisfied with a later pressing, hopefully one that sounds good on its own merits.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

I agree with you that some (not all) of original pressings do have this special musical tone....but on the other hand so do some of the fantastic modern reissue records as well. Thank you very much for your great comments 👍

[@vinceboyce3560]

I paid $160 for a mint original pressing of John Coltrane A Love Supreme.

[@Cripplecreekcarl]

I play my records. I’m not looking for og sealed or nm records, those are for people who case it and look at it. I bought a first og stereo press of blue train for a couple hundred. I never listen to it as I prefer the tone poets. Still cool to have. Great video!

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Thank you very much for your comments, amd and watching my video ✌️

[@showmemoblues]

Kenny I have found that with records not all vinyl is equal. For example, a Japan or say German or even UK vinyl to me sound better than American vinyl. What do you think? Thanks

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

I think some foreign pressings (but definitely not all) do sound better. Great point....thank you very much for mentioning that 👏 👍

[@captainakeaton5572]

Now that thrift stores have gone corporate, they charge premium prices.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

That's totally true, especially at the Goodwill and Salvation Army.

[@user-mp7hi5rt8e]

For forty years, I wanted a 45 copy of Jesse Belvin's "Dear Heart" . Val had a mint one and without batting an eye, I forked over $1500. No regrets! We all have done it. Admit it.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

That's cool, you purchased exactly what you wanted at a price that was acceptable to you and there is nothing wrong with that 😊✌️

[@madamcyn]

Are you talking about Val Shively? Never seen a copy of Dear Heart , well worth the money you spent.

[@user-mp7hi5rt8e]

@@madamcyn Yeah. It popped up on Ebay. The only copies I'd seen were in the 70s in the hands of SoCalif collectors. Nobody knew there was a group on the record because it was credited only to Belvin. Mine! ALL MINE. (LOL)

[@AlanSenzaki]

$2000. for original print (artists proof) of Robert Motherwells Brushstroke.😮

[@VincentGodinez-m7h]

Rent as store front, and start selling !

[@AP_JUJU_BANK]

I saw the 12,600$ and before watching I knew you were talking about that Coltrane record. Is it worth it? NO not in my opinion The most I ever paid for a used record is 580$ CAD it was a 1/26 Sun Ra - Live in Egypt volume 1

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Thank you very much for your comments....Sun Ra was amazing 👏 👍 🎶

[@norrieclark5217]

£26 for a used Vinyl Me Please version of McCoy Tyner ~ Sahara which is a very reasonable price. I don't concern myself with OG's.As long as I have a good copy of an album I'm happy but I do understand the appeal.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

I'm the same way for the most part, I prefer a nice pressing that I can afford

[@jfm0830]

Hey Kenny: I hope you and your family are all well. I have always collected a bit differently than many people. When I first started buying records I usually had money for 1 or 2 records, so I was buying new records. This was based on several things. Right or wrong… 1. I hated clicks, pops and record noise, so I figured I’d get far less of those on new LPs. 2. I looked at used records as “Inheriting someone else’s problems” 3. I wanted to spend my time listening to records, not crate digging for hours. I looked ONLY for new records in the regular bins. As I got my first system at 16 and I no longer needed to use my parents Mono console, I began to branch out into imported records due to the often superior sound. I would go into Boston & later Detroit for college. I would look at the larger record stores that had a good selection of imports. I bent my rule about used record slightly. If a store had a well organized section of bins with used, imports I would look through them due to the often superior sound of certain imports. During my college years weekly trips to the record stores in Boston, Detroit & Windsor, ONT Can were typical. Windsor was an easy drive across the river from Detroit & Canadian pressings & European imports were much easier to find. With the decline in pressing quality of many records due to the Oil Crisis of the 70’s, I was an early CD adoptee. I bought a 2nd generation Yamaha CD player. I abandoned purchasing records in 1987 and was away for 30 years. In 2017 I upgrade my entire system and bought a new turntable: The EAT C-Sharp, with an MC cart. I was stunned at how good records sounded on the new gear. I got a vacuum based record cleaner and quickly upgraded to ultrasonic cleaner. I also bought a Sweet Vinyl Sugar Cube SC-2 Mini click & pop remover. I found with ultrasonic cleaning and the Sugar Cube, VG+ records could be rendered dead quiet. I quickly fell down the Audiophile LP rabbit hole as well as buying used records. After a Liver Transplant and COVID my days of going to a record store are limited. Fortunately my local record store dealer has been a HUGE help. When he gets used records in that he knows might interest me, he will text me pictures & will arrange to get them to me. He also will go to Flea Markets or Record Shows and text me pictures of records he knows I might like. His typical customers don’t like many of the genres I like, but if I express interest in LPs at the shows he will buy them for me. I am SO lucky. As for record collectors paying $ BIG $, $ BIG $ $ Bucks $… As long as they are paying all their bills and their significant others are fine with it, I say GO FOR IT. I am happy for them because I have a sense of how it makes them feel. In answer to the price I’ve paid for a used record: the most expensive used record I have bought from three different sources. From a Local Brick & Mortar Store where I could return it if I had problems. It was on their wall. Beatles - LP: Let It Be Naked - Parlophone - $119.00 - (NM/M) From the Vinyl Vault at Acoustic Sounds - A Trusted Source: Count Basie And His Orchestra - LP: April In Paris - MoFi - $150.00 - (M-) From a Seller on Discogs: Clark Terry • Freddie Hubbard • Dizzy Gillespie plus Oscar Peterson • Ray Brown • Joe Pass • Bobby Durham - LP: The Alternate Blues - Pablo Today - $39.00 - (VG+)

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Thank you very much for sharing some of your used records purchase. I hope that you and your family are blessed and doing well 😊

[@shimtest]

I've paid $ 7.99 for some used box sets. I think $10-20 is a fair maximum

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

That's a great range for me too 😊 ✌️

[@captainakeaton5572]

I paid $100 for a copy of Parliament’s OSMIUM.

[@willieluncheonette5843]

first pressings of classic jazz records are going through the roof. Of course they are all analog which is important for many and I agree, it sounds better than digital.. But some audiophile all analog reissues might even sound better because of the improved mastering chains. On the other side, those original tapes might have deteriorated a bit in the last 60 or 70 years so even a perfect improved all analog mastering might not sound as good as a M original pressing I have many of the Acoustic Tech reissues, all the Miles and Monk albums and some Rollins. Only wish the Monks Music was mono and not stereo. Don't really dig the stereo. The OJC mono reissue sounds better and it's from the original tapes. Most I've ever paid for a used record is a New York punk EP for $700. I needed it for my film. The last time it sold a few years ago it fetched $1500..

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Thank you very much for your awesome comments. Do you write for Analog Planet ? Also what is the name of your film ? Thank you very much 😊 ✌️

[@willieluncheonette5843]

@@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews I wrote one article for Analog Planet titled The Top 15 Punk Albums. Now I write for The Tracking Angle and have written articles on Starting a Jamaican Music Collection with articles on ska, rock steady, Jamaican Deejays The Start of Rap? and also two on Bunny Wailer One of the 3 Most Important Third World Musicians. The title of my film is The Sun Behind The Sun Behind The Sun. It is not at all a Hollywood type of film and is 4 hours long. Bladder unfriendly I guess...lol Thanks for asking, Kenny and love your enthusiasm for music.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

I honored that someone of your experience and stature watches my videos, thank you very much I sincerely appreciate it ✌️ 😊

[@willieluncheonette5843]

@@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews Back at ya, my friend. It is a joy to hear you talk about music. I'm just an ordinary guy who also loves music.

[@peckinpah303]

I paid 50€ for a Gil Scott Heron first press („Reflections“).

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Gil Scott-Heron is amazing 👏

[@peckinpah303]

@@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews He is

[@mymixture965]

Why buy an original Picasso, the xerox copy looks just as nice. Maybe for some people there is more in the item than just the music, I am one of those guys. Does it make live easier? No, but the fun of buying vinyl goes deeper.....to me.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

I can definitely appreciate your point of view, well said 👌 👍 💯 🎶

[@jcksnpl]

There’s one copy of an original picasso and it was made by him. The OG pressing is a manufactured product and tens of thousands were made. The Tone Poet reissues sound better and are closer to what’s actually on the tape.

[@mymixture965]

@@jcksnpl For a Picasso 12.600,00 is not enough, you would have to add a little, right. And the amount of OG copies that have survived is very limited AND the Tone Poet does NOT sound better, different at best. Do you have an OG? Do you have any old Blue Note OG´s? In mono? And did you listen to them with a dedicated mono system? If the answer to all questions is YES and you still say that Tone Poets are better, I stop arguing, we than have different taste. Most of the time, people just repeat what others told them. To me the Tone Poets are OK, for the price there is nothing wrong, but the old OG´s played on the right system are blowing them away, they have no chance. EVERY person who heard the difference in my room did agree. The Tone Poets are good and it is nice to have the music available on vinyl and in one point they are better, they are quiet. I am a pro Jazz musician all my live, I know what mastering does, it is obvious what Kevin Gray does, RVG had to do it different, but the old mastering was better. Tone Poets let you listen what is on the tape? Better say what is LEFT on the tape🙂

[@jcksnpl]

@@mymixture965 the OG Monos are really magical and do in fact sound great and better than modern ones, but for stereo releases I much more prefer the airier and more balanced sound of the Tone Poets/UHQRs than the much more midrange focused old pressings.

[@LPS-R-US]

Not to me. The Trane probably didn't earn anywhere near that recording the session. Most I paid for a first pressing...15 dollars...maybe.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

That around my price range. Thank you very much for your comments Tony ✌️

[@watdanuqta-mf5ms]

Is it really worth it ?? The answer is simple; YES! If someone is willing to pay that price, then it's worth it to someone and that applies to anything.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

True...its worth what the highest bidder or buyer is willing to pay.

[@jimmccloskey4254]

Would you pay more than $20 for a used MOFI or UHQR? Same argument.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Great question....that opportunity has never been presented to me but if it was I would definitely consider it for sure based on the original cost of those records.

[@mikel5582]

Kenny, I just have one question. Are you going to play that record or store it in your vault and only look at it? 😅

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Great question 🤔 👏 👍 👌 😁

[@winstonmcgill6667]

Im not sure what the big deal is. As with any collection the price is driven by rarity and what someone is willing to pay. Seems like a lot of youtubers are jumping on this bandwagon and making an issue of a non issue

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Thank you very much for your comments and expressing your opinion.

[@williamsizemore5576]

What's o g mean?

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Original pressing

[@williamcampbell3868]

O.G. is hood terminology for original gangster. It was the title of rapper Ice T's 1991 album. The title of O G. is a respectable title bestowed upon older Black men in the black community regardless of their occupation by younger black men.

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Thank you very much for that 👏 👍 ✌️ 💯 , much appreciated.

[@Dave-er2pn]

​@@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews Wouldn't OP make more sense then ?

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

Yes it definitely makes all the sense in the world....that's something that you would have to take up with the entire vinyl community.

[@thomasdequincey5811]

If you can afford it ... what's the problem?

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

I have no problem with that opinion...what people do with their money is their business

[@robertpannullo5687]

Unfortunately that record will most likely be mounted on a wall as a piece of art and never to be played .. that’s my suspicion anyway

[@kennysaudiophilerecordreviews]

That very well may be true 👍

[@allenschmitz9644]

At a glance I thought all the records behind you was 12,600 dollars and said to myself thats to much.