12 Common MTB Disk Brake Maintenance Mistakes & How To Avoid Them

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@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f Жыл бұрын
So many guys harp about brake pad contamination... but it's not harping, it's real. It's difficult to know how much or how little oily stuff on your pads will make them squeal, sometimes a lot, sometimes a little. It's not just squealing either, you lose a tremendous amount of braking force. Best to follow this advice and be careful, even if it seems overly cautious on the surface.
@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks
@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks 3 жыл бұрын
I contaminated my brakes, went on a long fast decent and heated them up and they work fine now.
@JayGee6996
@JayGee6996 3 жыл бұрын
That shot in the eye was brilliant on so many levels 🤣
@scottlstone
@scottlstone 3 жыл бұрын
Dirty Bastard! 😂
@dwafwewg
@dwafwewg 3 жыл бұрын
thats what she said
@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks
@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks 3 жыл бұрын
Seths Bike hacks used baby oil and tested it a year later...worked fine Shimano!!
@viperdemonz-jenkins
@viperdemonz-jenkins 2 ай бұрын
yea well shimano does not get a cut that way, so they are not going to admit that.
@peterfranzjr.1190
@peterfranzjr.1190 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Bossnut V2 (from UK) in 2017 and I rode an entire season with the front brake on the wrong side (right) until watching one of your maintenance videos. After seeing how easy it was the change, I switched the sides and went through a full brake bleed at the same time!
@andreiteodor6462
@andreiteodor6462 3 жыл бұрын
I understand the concerns of using other type of mineral oil in the brake system, but what about using automotive LHM fluid. Its made for citroen braking systems, and i have compared the proprieties of both shimano and TOTAL LHM and not only the LHM has higher boiling point but also lower freezing point and similar viscosity. i have been using for 1 year and not only its cheaper but also better in almost every aspect and u can get it in any car parts shop. Any toughts on this?
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
13:50 I would also check the wheel bearing tolerances. Sometimes the bearing tolerance may be slight too loose and that can cause noise if you try to move the bike with brakes applied.
@jaredlash5002
@jaredlash5002 3 жыл бұрын
7:27 continuity error. :D Doddy has blue gloves on when approaching the door. No blue gloves after exiting the door.
@drmoynihan
@drmoynihan 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Doddy. Just replaced my mtb pads today. Your presentation confirmed I did it right, including bedding the brakes to the rotors.
@jameswilson2815
@jameswilson2815 10 ай бұрын
I'm comfortable knowing this advice comes from an accomplished bike rider. Mahalo Doddy. You da man. Aloha. 😎🤙
@veganath
@veganath 9 ай бұрын
9:33 My issue addressed, no power in rear brakes even after cleaning the rotors & pads with alochol & using sand paper(320grit??) to remove any glazing..etc, will remove the rotors & pads for the third time to try the clean method described & return
@IronX77
@IronX77 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a vid on tips and tricks to optimize SRAM brakes... They're the ones that I need help with... 😬
@simonyr36
@simonyr36 3 жыл бұрын
Step 1: throw em in the trash Step 2: buy Magura or Shimano (Had the Code R for over a year myself)
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227 3 жыл бұрын
Step one: they're not that bad if you have newer models Step two: do not hesitate and use your warranty, if you got a bad set (Pretty much Shimano fan, but not a fanboy)
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Buy shimano ones, with their well known wandering bite point issue and no modulation.😋
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Henry did 2 excellent vids on exactly this last year, full of great tips for sram, but also other brakes... try a search through
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227 3 жыл бұрын
@@rupedog deore and groupless 5-series have no modulation or bite point problems. You should try running cheaper stuff too...
@LaLaLand.Germany
@LaLaLand.Germany 9 ай бұрын
Thankfully I didn´t do any of these, I just today upgraded from MT200 to 520- what a difference! And I ride the same way: front/right, rear/left. The manufacturers think otherwise, every bike I worked on it´s opposite- I hate that. Every motorcycle has the front brake right. Why not adapt that good standart? Less pain involved when kids go from cycle to bike.
@pierrebroccoli.9396
@pierrebroccoli.9396 3 жыл бұрын
Also, good to check the brake alignment with the mounting bolts, i.e. loosen the brake mount bolts, spin your wheel, apply pressure to the brake corresponding brake lever and tighten up to spec. Squealy brakes when riding in and through wet - not much one can do about that. Fairy is awesome for washing the bike, car, dishes, windows, dog. ;)
@shithead
@shithead 2 жыл бұрын
usually gotta make sure the wheel/rotor is "pushing" forward on the caliper when you tighten it, too. If it's pushing backwards then it will be slightly toed outwards when you release the brake, which can cause poor braking and squealing.. Toeing your brakes is key, it increases stopping power significantly and helps prevent squeaks even on wet or greasy brakes
@eptrs616
@eptrs616 3 жыл бұрын
I‘d ask Seth about the thing with wrong fluid😂Just sayin...
@jamesbailey8449
@jamesbailey8449 3 жыл бұрын
I have green aftermarket oil in my magura mt8's and they are smooth as butter.
@FLiPtgc
@FLiPtgc 3 жыл бұрын
"...a little bit different, but kinda the same" :D
@boomerangfreak
@boomerangfreak 3 жыл бұрын
Well I have both shimano and magura brakes on my different bikes. I only have 1 bottle of magura oil tho XD I do try my best to get all shimano oil out of the system when bleeding so that I am not mixing different types of oils.
@JustAGlitchFL
@JustAGlitchFL 3 жыл бұрын
I have used just straight mineral oil in Shimano brakes before. Worked perfectly fine.
@onewheellucas_0533
@onewheellucas_0533 3 жыл бұрын
@@FLiPtgc mineral oil is mineral oil only the colour is "a little bit different , but kinda the same"
@autoSRI
@autoSRI 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever used the blow lamp method on contaminated pads ? I’ve done it plenty of times without issue
@drewlop
@drewlop 3 жыл бұрын
What is the blow lamp method? My brakes seem to be contaminated just from city riding and I can't afford to replace them :/
@k2r79
@k2r79 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewlop I use it too ✋Just remove your brake pads, set them flat on a non-flammable surface with the braking compound towards you and just boil them with a blow torch. That will burn any grease or oil on them, if the compound catches fire, it's that they were contaminated 😂
@Stengell
@Stengell 3 жыл бұрын
Having problems with squealing/contaminated brakes? then give them a good cleaning with a dash of Acetone on rotors and brake pads(please un-mount rotors and pads so you don't get acetone on any other parts of the bike) scrub the parts with an abrasive sponge cleaner thingy.. then rinse the acetone off with either brakecleaner/isopropyl alcohol (or both in that order).. this is the only thing i found that truely works
@pinchpeak5203
@pinchpeak5203 3 жыл бұрын
If I even just THINK about trying to fix my brakes, they get 50% worse. I just gave up and now I take it to the LBS for anything brake related. Getting brake work done is really cheap anyways. Brakes are just way too dang sensitive!
@NDemanuele1
@NDemanuele1 2 жыл бұрын
Helpful video. How often should you bleed the brakes? When do you know it's necessary? Is there a Rule of thumb? Thanks!
@Charlie_Broadbent
@Charlie_Broadbent 3 жыл бұрын
I use subway napkins to cover my disk brakes when i use the muc-off bike protect
@kaedeschulz5422
@kaedeschulz5422 3 жыл бұрын
I have gotten lube on my Rotors once.... I run waxxed chains now. Lasts longer before it needs to be redone and the chains also last longer. Also the drivetrain stays clean as mud doesn't stick to it. I also had my brake line not tightened enaugh and pushed the lever while working on the bike. Thankfully didn't loose much fluid.
@garethwri
@garethwri 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Doddy! Just changed the brake pads for the first time on my Stumpjumper and the front felt a bit suspect on my first ride after. I had to let a small amount of fluid out to get the pistons back to allow the new pads in which I thought may be the problem but after watching this, I think they might not be bedded in properly. Will try that and the bite point adjustment first before a bleed... Cheers!
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f Жыл бұрын
"mineral oil doesn't absorb moisture from the air, like DOT fluid does"... brilliant, I was wondering this, thanks!
@nichtDarkDiamond
@nichtDarkDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
I run my brakes in slightly different positions. My rear brake lever is a bit more flat with a later bite point, because I use the rear brake more when I hang of the back of my bike. My front brakes is 3 degree more down compared to the rear brake and has a earlier bite point, so it is in a better position for switchbacks und stoppies
@frankthetankricard
@frankthetankricard 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds legit. Here's a few more pro tips. Cut your handlebars 10 mm shorter on the left and offset its angle from the fork by 1 degree so you can turn right a little harder. And how about running flats on the left and clipless on the right with your helmet backwards for more aero?
@nichtDarkDiamond
@nichtDarkDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankthetankricard If you have a shoulder injury you maybe have to do that
@nichtDarkDiamond
@nichtDarkDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankthetankricard my right sitbone is actually more forward than my left one so I run my saddle a bit to the left
@mojo3398
@mojo3398 3 жыл бұрын
i like to have a notably earlier brake point und the rear break because i used to pulled the front brake too hard. now i drift a lot because i brake harder on the rear. it's fun but my rear tires and brake pads wear way faster.
@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks
@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankthetankricard Dude, you are my hero. I thought I was a good heckler. I'm not worthy.
@dudeonbike800
@dudeonbike800 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks! BTW, some people watch at 12:35 for reasons other than bicycle maintenance. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
@calypso2niner
@calypso2niner 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, comprehensive brake tech with Doddy and reggae beats!
@greenbimoon
@greenbimoon 4 ай бұрын
I ride with my brake levers opposite to you. Right rear, left front. It's just how I prefer.
@MichaelDupre-w2n
@MichaelDupre-w2n 6 ай бұрын
13:55 front on the right, rear on the left is a new one for me. I've never seen a bike like that.
@matthewbrouwer4685
@matthewbrouwer4685 4 ай бұрын
ikr, brother is tweaking
@kswsquared
@kswsquared 3 жыл бұрын
Oh good, doing a tire swap with this playing in the background. * quietly reroutes the front brake hose *
@josanluzuriaga177
@josanluzuriaga177 3 жыл бұрын
did cq
@mlb6d9
@mlb6d9 Жыл бұрын
Here's another valuable tip - pay attention which brake lever you put the bleed cup on and check which caliper it goes to. I once put the bleeder cup on my front lever and tried to bleed the rear caliper. Needless to say, the hose kept popping off and oil went everywhere before I realized it.
@Oskar-tv2gi
@Oskar-tv2gi Жыл бұрын
How do you decontaminate your brake discs i got Wd40 all over the by accident a while ago and they’ve been way less sensitive since
@prgrier1
@prgrier1 3 жыл бұрын
pre bleed adjustment of lever and stroke travel, lever is fully out, yes but I've heard conflicting opinions about the stroke, some older brakes would not bleed with out these things done.
@szaszka4580
@szaszka4580 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I would add that you should be careful when tightening oil screw in brake handle. I stripped thread in brand new one. That sucked big time.
@gmbntech
@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Great Advice!
@qwertyazerty2137
@qwertyazerty2137 Жыл бұрын
I think using a spirit level to align the levers is inprecise because most of the time the floor or the service stand which the bike stands on are uneven making the spirit gauge inaccurate. Instead I use a piece of packaking strand (or a thick sewing thread), span it across the levers finding the same support points, tension it, and look for a level point of reference with bear eye, usually the stem clamp bolts.
@Dave-wf9hg
@Dave-wf9hg 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the shimano XTR cassette just makes me relaxed for some reason.
@elnasty555
@elnasty555 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a used carrera kraken today because it used shimano hydraulic brakes... wish I hadn't now. Cable disks were simpler. I think new pads needed but are they as easy to change as cable disks? I'll have to find out.
@danielvelasquez7708
@danielvelasquez7708 3 жыл бұрын
I have definitely contaminated brake pads by accident a few times, and the rotor included by spray of muc off. Getting mineral oil squirted on Doddy's face was so brilliant for entertainment purpose, and thank goodness I run mechanical instead of hydraulic brakes.
@mann_idonotreadreplies
@mann_idonotreadreplies 2 жыл бұрын
mechanical brakes sucks ass.
@youtube7076
@youtube7076 2 жыл бұрын
9:55 did you mention to boil them in water? how long?
@Cross-Country-Biker
@Cross-Country-Biker 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doddy super too avoid the pitfalls with some knowledge gained 🇿🇦
@LECMTB
@LECMTB 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Doddy for this video, it couldn't have come at a better time. Today I am changing out my brake pads and bleeding them, but I never knew about the free stroke adjuster. I also have the XT brakes so knowing that is really handy. Thanks :D
@sjorsroelofs
@sjorsroelofs 3 жыл бұрын
One tip I would give is to never over-tighten your brake lever bleed screw. Just finger-tight is enough. Been there, done that.. you can replace your entire brake lever if you over-tighten and screw up the thread 😢
@joseottovon
@joseottovon Жыл бұрын
Hi! I’m pretty sure I have spray some BIKE PROTECT ON THE BRAKES(sram level TL) and now not only I have noisy brakes also the brakes “don’t brake! How do I fix this pls??!
@TheMoodyedge
@TheMoodyedge 3 жыл бұрын
Shimano asked you. Good one. Same old rehashed crap week in week out.
@gernottoventile_mtb
@gernottoventile_mtb 3 жыл бұрын
I have XTR 9120 brakes on my bike, but have never ever seen the free stroke adjustment do anything...
@downhill_rider732
@downhill_rider732 Жыл бұрын
I have a question so the deore xt brakes have that free stroke i ride two piston deore brake if i put deore xt lever on deore caliper does the free stroke will still do something or it wont on other caliper
@vinny61389
@vinny61389 3 жыл бұрын
The dragging/uneven calipers can sometimes also be that the coating on the pistons themselves (and also the bore/square seal in the caliper) are also worn and no resetting will fix it. Only a rebuild or replace at that point.
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
10:20 I would argue that you rarely need to replace rotors because those shouldn't be able to soak oil or grease. The pads on the other hand are pretty porous material and if you get oil in the pads, it will be there forever. If you know the boiling point of that oil, you might be able to heat the pads above the boiling point and keep the pads at that temperature for long enough. It might turn out that the boiling point of the oil is more than what the pads can take, though.
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen Жыл бұрын
@J B Contaminated with what? Are you claiming that something entered *inside* the metal material of the disks (rotors)? Did you use real brake cleaner fluid to clean the rotors? Even car brake disks come with oiled surface from the factory and you must degrease the brake surfaces before brake pads touch the surface. Do you think your rotor "contaminant" is worse than oil?
@IvanFSM
@IvanFSM 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Doody what about using mineral hidraulic oil from car? Like total lhm plus?
@TimDowney-kb2li
@TimDowney-kb2li 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Lots of good advice and well explained.
@LaurentiusTriarius
@LaurentiusTriarius 9 ай бұрын
I've tried all sorts of fluids in all the tektro I removed from new bikes, dot definitely doesn't work with mineral oil seals I can confirm. But yeah pure mineral oil from the hardware store or Amazon works just fine, bonus point since there's no dye in it 😂
@fastsvo
@fastsvo 2 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on using Pentosin mineral oil with Shimano brakes?
@prgrier1
@prgrier1 3 жыл бұрын
In my area of the world, acquiring manufacturers brake fluid and pads has been a 'magical' trick. All using the 'fits all' excuse.
@pauly6937
@pauly6937 3 жыл бұрын
Magura brakes. I have mt7 pro. They feel strong but the rear vibrates through the bike. How can i stop this? Also is it neccasary to pressurise the fluid in the syringe with mineral oil like you would with dot fluid?
@robertsyme5500
@robertsyme5500 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video - VERY instructive!!!
@JayGee6996
@JayGee6996 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention never to mix different versions of DOT fluid. Some can be mixed but it’s best to just remember not to do it. E.g. do not mix DOT 5 with DOT 5.1
@fraanzfan8158
@fraanzfan8158 3 жыл бұрын
Dot 3/4 and 5.1 will work
@randyjohnson7821
@randyjohnson7821 3 жыл бұрын
I'd also add that DOT fluid can eat paint, clean it up if you spill it on your frame or fork.
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Only DOT 5 cant be mixed with the others DOTS, because its silicone based...DOT 3, 4 and 5.1 can be mixed, regardless of brand. SRAM only uses 4 or 5.1 tho, as 3 doesn't meet performance needs.
@ieuangwynne7736
@ieuangwynne7736 3 жыл бұрын
Hi doddy what stem is that in the nukeptoof
@ryanroche212
@ryanroche212 3 жыл бұрын
hey im new to mtbing woulr really appreciate some help figuring out what goes into upgrading the drive train on my 2021 marlin 6 . ive already done front sprocket but dont know about cassette and mech . thanks
@john_john_john
@john_john_john 3 жыл бұрын
13:42 If it actually is the brake rotor, as it happened to me twice, the fix is using threadlock. I use a torque wrench every time I can and I was puzzled at how tightening the rotors with the spec torque always caused the rear to loosen some rides later. Magura's spec states rotor screws should be tightened at 4Nm, so that's not a lot of torque to keep both the rotor in place and the screws from turning from vibrations, so threadlock is the solution.
@NotMyFullTimeJob
@NotMyFullTimeJob 3 жыл бұрын
All the Maguras rotors that I use tighten at 6Nm?! Where did you find 4Nm? I have Storms and MDR-P with 6Nm mark on them.
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Thread lock us ALSO part of the spec. Ur meant to use it. New disc bolts are ready coated with it
@john_john_john
@john_john_john 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotMyFullTimeJob The owner's manual for the MT 2017 series states rotor screws tighten at 4Nm (www.magura.com/media/922405/mt_2017_en.pdf page 5 or page 17) EDIT: Maybe I should've specified the model I have, my bad. I'm using MT5 front and back.
@ianhill20101
@ianhill20101 3 жыл бұрын
Ive used olive oil, it works but gathers air fast, its a long term problem when used but inly gives a short term fix just buy some unless your a chemist.
@olafschermann1592
@olafschermann1592 2 жыл бұрын
Squeezing brakes: just cleaning the pads is not enough. Oil is embedded inside the pads. What works is to boil it out by placing the pads on an oven 10min at 200 centigrades. If it smokes than the embedded oil is leaving the pads.
@a.n.mwaliullah1632
@a.n.mwaliullah1632 2 жыл бұрын
Shimano Brake caliper piston popped out. How do I get it back in? :
@Offroader74
@Offroader74 3 жыл бұрын
#AskGMBNTech why do the lever move further to the handle bar as pads wear on bicycles, but it doesn't at motorbikes and cars? Is the expansion reservoir to small?
@TheProjectX3
@TheProjectX3 3 жыл бұрын
I bought new disc brake cleaner and it has n-hexane. Is it safe to use? The last one I had was without it and was safe.
@charlesslwilson
@charlesslwilson 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely need to use the tyre levers on the pistons after changing my pads recently - bit of catching going on!
@FLiPtgc
@FLiPtgc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the helpful video, just in time, I will do a full brake bleed in the near future. I already bought some "Royal Blood" brake fluid but I have Shimano Deore XT brakes, same as in your video. So you dont recommend to use "Royal Blood" but Shimano fluid instead. How much fluid do you approximately need for a full brake bleed front and rear (xc bike). Or would you recommend to just remove the air out of the system? How often do you replace the brake fluid?
@FayaSitteroni
@FayaSitteroni 3 жыл бұрын
i contaminated my rear brake in morzine once, riding down the hill and always braking solved the problem for me. but then again, it doesnt require much force to lock up the rear.
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227 3 жыл бұрын
1:45 on behalf of all the Polish: stop using us! 😛😂
@th_js
@th_js 3 жыл бұрын
#freethepolish
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227 3 жыл бұрын
@@th_js#STOPpolishAbuse #metoo #NOmeansNO #CanLivesMatter 🤣 (spray can)😂
@wojciechopyrcha9116
@wojciechopyrcha9116 3 жыл бұрын
LOL :D
@miketeiml6515
@miketeiml6515 2 жыл бұрын
What fluid does tektro use?
@cyclingtwovlogger
@cyclingtwovlogger 3 жыл бұрын
LHM PLUS 💪
@IvanFSM
@IvanFSM 3 жыл бұрын
@cyclingTwoVlogger is it ok to use it? Like Total LHM PLUS? Green one?
@cyclingtwovlogger
@cyclingtwovlogger 3 жыл бұрын
@@IvanFSM I use Febi LHM Plus on all my bikes. It's also green. I think there is no a big difference between Febi and Total LHM Plus.
@jiaochou8836
@jiaochou8836 3 жыл бұрын
hello,i have disc brake pads on amazon,but im not sure it works or not,i want to give them away,i dont know who can help,can you give me some advice?
@DonutEndurance
@DonutEndurance 3 жыл бұрын
My biggest problem is shimano stating a certain torque for the brake hose bolts then not leaving enough space to get a torque wrench in the space.
@BGraves
@BGraves 3 жыл бұрын
After a wash with dish soap and a scrubber, I bake my rotors and pads in a toaster oven at 500F to turn the oil into carbon. Critical that you get the specific oil beyond its smoke point. Using a torch on a rotor can heat it unevenly and warp it. Scuffed with 1500 grit in a palm sander and done.
@drmoynihan
@drmoynihan 3 ай бұрын
In the USA, right hand/rear brake, left hand/front brake. :)
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 3 жыл бұрын
5:59 some shimano brake sdont have this feature, but still have the same mechanism, this results in deathtrap if adjusted for child hands and powerful brakes for long fingers. I think it's silly to have have that without this adjustment. I had m6000 brakes the stock position was perfect fit wise but they lacked power, for full power i had to have them all the way out but that gets more fatiguing.
@RenaxTM91
@RenaxTM91 3 жыл бұрын
Most cheap brakes have only the one point of adjustment, and yes, its dangerous to adjust it to the point where you can't get full breaking. If you have small hands the best solution is to buy better brake levers with free stroke adjustment... However, my 8yr old son copes just fine with stock cheap old brakes?
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 3 жыл бұрын
@@RenaxTM91 maybe he has the brakes with reach adjustment at the lever blade directly, thus reach not effecting the power/ how far piston is pressed. So these will be powerful. this type is the one that is mostly spec'ed on kids bikes. but not always.
@RenaxTM91
@RenaxTM91 3 жыл бұрын
@@mtbboy1993 nope, the bike had mech brakes from factory. So I put a set of old deore brakes I had laying around on it... Reach adjustment just moves the whole range of travel, so if you set it too close to the handlebars you don't get full braking...
@nomad-pq4yw8iy7v
@nomad-pq4yw8iy7v 3 жыл бұрын
Just a side note dot 4 and 5 don't have the moister issue not that you should use them in your bike brakes. Also you can use the the right automotive disc brake clean and it will work correctly at a more economical price and if you do scrub or wipe of your disc or pads you should hit them with brake clean one more time.
@auzarkhant3255
@auzarkhant3255 3 жыл бұрын
9:45 I usually just sand them down a bit
@treimar
@treimar 3 жыл бұрын
How do you adjust the free-stroke of brakes that don't have a dedicated adjustment screw? Lever bleed after installing pads and putting wheels on? Bleeding with a thinner bleedblock?
@scottlstone
@scottlstone 3 жыл бұрын
The only way I know is to squeeze the brake lever with the wheel off to bring the pads out a bit. And when I say squeeze I mean barely touch it!
@scottlstone
@scottlstone 3 жыл бұрын
And if you over do it then use a plastic tyre lever to reset pistons then repeat until you get them where you want them. Free stroke lever is crap on the Shimano anyway so I do this said method with every new set of pads, I hate too much travel, adjusting the lever reach helps too
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
U cant....that's like asking how u open the sunroof on a car that doesnt have one....😋
@treimar
@treimar 3 жыл бұрын
@@rupedog But you can, you have to increase volume of oil
@michaelsigismonde7958
@michaelsigismonde7958 Жыл бұрын
I have a Montague Paratrooper 26" folding mountain bike. It's a great, sturdy bike--they're used by US Army--but I absolutely hate disc brakes. Traditional center-pull brakes (which grab the wheel's rim) works best for me. They have their downside, compared to disc brakes, but I can easily change the pads in one or two minutes with minimal tools, and adjust the tension. Disc brakes are just too damn complicated. I want to enjoy riding my bike, not spending a whole month trying to figure out how the disc brake system works.
@Bianchiboy
@Bianchiboy 3 жыл бұрын
Having had a set of Formulas keep messing up, I can safely say I’ll not bother with DOT fluid again. Got a set of Maguras now and they’re 100% better
@gryyta9617
@gryyta9617 3 жыл бұрын
And does the DOT work in ya car or do you use mineral oil? Cant be that bad! (i run Shimano brakes on my bike)
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Whats the fluid got to do with it....nothing. cant blame the fluid!
@LifeofMaik
@LifeofMaik 3 жыл бұрын
When using Dot change it with your cars or motorbikes fluid and all of your bikes if possible. You can buy a bigger container saving a few bucks. Granted it is more labour involved, but you only have to remember one date and not start and stop all over again.
@polbecca
@polbecca 3 жыл бұрын
And even if just doing bike brakes, auto DOT5.1 is much cheaper than the same stuff sold in bike shops.
@mr2_mike
@mr2_mike 3 жыл бұрын
@@polbecca just make sure you always use the right dot. Not all are compatible. I believe dot 4 is not compatible with dot 5 but the other way around is ok. Difference in dot fluid is the boiling point. Mostly for car racing.
@chrisivens3413
@chrisivens3413 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the best place to get our brake fluid recycled? I have a jam jar that I’ve been filling and I suspect I will find a place at the tip for it.
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Answered ur own q
@geordiefarmer5405
@geordiefarmer5405 3 жыл бұрын
Baby oil works perfectly. I have run it for over a year with no problems. They only had to say to only use shimano oil so that they increase there own sails
@thenine83
@thenine83 3 жыл бұрын
They say to use their own mineral oil because that's what they've designed the brakes to be used with. You're not going to design these seals and systems to work perfectly with a certain oil, then tell your customers to just put whatever in there, are you?
@geordiefarmer5405
@geordiefarmer5405 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenine83 the shimano oil is mineral based, so is baby oil, its a perfect subsitute to the overpriced shimano oil, not just any random oil
@thenine83
@thenine83 3 жыл бұрын
@@geordiefarmer5405 They aren't the same thing though are they. Not all mineral oils are identical and the viscosity varies. I'm not doubting baby oil works as many people have reportedly used it with no issues, and I've used LHM myself too which is fine. However, Shimano design their brakes based on them using a certain type of mineral oil, just like they design their drivetrains for use with their own chains. They put a lot of research and development into these thing to get them working perfectly, so I don't think they only tell us to use it JUST to make more money. It's so the stuff performs as well as it possibly can and works as intended. The main reason to use Shimano mineral oil is that if your brakes are under warranty and you use anything else, you void the warranty. But right now Shimano mineral oil is impossible to get hold of anyway.
@davenorman8251
@davenorman8251 3 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who is a mad mountain biker and works in the oil & gas industry when he put the shimano mineral oil in the mass spec "it lined up" exactly the same as very popular brand of automotive power steering fluid...sorry guys..I guess it explains the red colour. The same was done with "Fox fluid" and the results were also common with another product..think heavy weight oil blue in colour...and you'll probably guess it.
@sammm2140
@sammm2140 3 жыл бұрын
I definetly sprayed frame protector/moisture displacer on my disc brakes. They definetly should put a warning on it... as a first time user i had no clue
@roythearcher
@roythearcher 3 жыл бұрын
I believe they do have warnings if it's a specific bike product.
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Wow
@pheelers1831
@pheelers1831 3 жыл бұрын
Been running 2$ mineral oil from the drugstore for years no issues
@lewisatkinson7277
@lewisatkinson7277 3 жыл бұрын
Super, super vid guys!! Really helpful 👍Myself and my son are beginning to learn to work on our own bikes and are currently faced with a couple of potential break issues so this is well timed! Thanks again. One question though if I may... we have a light squeal situation at present. Specifically when the bike is moving forward and back ever-so gently there's a fairly prominent but low-res squeal. It's not happening when active on the trail however. Could this still be a contaminated component?
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Prob pad micro moving in caliper when rocked. Check everything is tight, and forget about it.
@maximilianholzinger2463
@maximilianholzinger2463 3 жыл бұрын
How did you end up with frontbreak on the right and rear on the left? All my bikes are the opposite way, just how I bought them. Is this a UK /EU / US thing?
@davidwinston1627
@davidwinston1627 3 жыл бұрын
It comes from motorcycles. If you ever ride a motocross bike you will see they are set up that way. Clutch lever is on the left. Front brake on right. So on a bike, the rear brake is naturally goes on the left since there is no clutch.
@jasonmoore3557
@jasonmoore3557 2 жыл бұрын
Shower caps from pound shops make good disc brake covers 😉
@andreasmurrell8942
@andreasmurrell8942 3 жыл бұрын
Can I use isopropyl alcohol to clean my brake roters?
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, if its 98% or above. Lower %ages leave residues of the other ingredients. Best to get 99.9% iso...
@calumbmx1
@calumbmx1 3 жыл бұрын
I would buy the shimano brake fluid if anywhere online had it in stock in the UK. Barely find any of the small ones, let alone the 1L bottles!
@jamesbailey8449
@jamesbailey8449 3 жыл бұрын
I've used aftermarket green mineral oil from amazon in my brakes for years with absolutely no issue whatsoever
@Arkainebe
@Arkainebe 3 жыл бұрын
Ask a friend or a local facebook group if you need a bleed. We all buy the 1L bottles which last years for the home mechanic. I'm sure someone will be willing to help you out.
@calumbmx1
@calumbmx1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Arkainebe Currently illegal in the UK to go round a mates house so won't be doing that for a while 😂 LBS is a good shout but honestly, I like doing the work myself and if I can buy the tools for the price of one go at the LBS I definitely will! Bought some cyclo mineral oil that seems to have done the trick.
@JirkaPanek1993
@JirkaPanek1993 3 жыл бұрын
I run my front brake on the left and rear on the right...is it so uncommon? I've use them like that since my very first bike where it was set up like that from the factory...gives me chills to switch it :D
@drewlop
@drewlop 3 жыл бұрын
That seems to be the standard here in the US where we drive on the right side of the road; maybe there's some safety reason for the driving side and braking side to match?
@kasperkjrsgaard1447
@kasperkjrsgaard1447 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a bit strange that there’s no safety standard for that. All motorcycles and mopeds have the brake lever at the right handlebar and for scooters with automatic clutch, the rear brake at the left handlebar.
@AlexGamer-jx9dd
@AlexGamer-jx9dd 3 жыл бұрын
Can you use road tyres on a mountain bike
@knarfis
@knarfis 3 жыл бұрын
#AskGMBNTech As an automotive engineer we touch the steel brake rotors (even with grimy hands) all the time an are never concerned with contamination in regards to a typical automobile. If the rotor is not covered in oil or grease, it is good to go. Why are MTB brake rotors so different? Are the metalic pads on MTB's different than the automotive version? Are the rotors made of an exotic metal? Or are all these precautions you constantly speak of because of these resin pads that are found on bikes.
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Where do u work...so we can avoid going there!😂 Relative Scale...and operational temperature, maybe...
@zumabilla
@zumabilla 3 жыл бұрын
Every bike shop I visit always want to offer me Aztec replacement brake pads not Shimano original equipment replacement pads? I can't find out anything about Aztec. They don't appear to have a website. I can't even find the UK distributor to ask. Please help.
@rupedog
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Cheapo pads, likely stocked as high margins. Buy shimano online, or go elsewhere. Uberbike do good after market pads.
@YiZongOng
@YiZongOng 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest brake mistake was over tightening the bleed port screw and stripping the threads of the bleed port☠️
@MidWestMTB
@MidWestMTB 3 жыл бұрын
I've literally dunked my pads and rotors in oil, cleaned them off with a bit of alcohol and they worked fine.
@BGraves
@BGraves 3 жыл бұрын
No way...
@JustAGlitchFL
@JustAGlitchFL 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that doesn't sound true.
@charliezdybek1882
@charliezdybek1882 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you put em in oil
@MidWestMTB
@MidWestMTB 3 жыл бұрын
Spare rotors in a bag with my bleed kit. One bag and mineral oil got punctured and bled into the separate bag with the rotors.
@dudeonbike800
@dudeonbike800 3 жыл бұрын
Hey folks, this is a ruse. Look at his name... "MidWest MTB." Are you suspicious? Good! The mid west doesn't have any hills! So he doesn't actually need or use brakes! So take his advice with a grain of salt! Ha, ha! (And no, don't sprinkle salt on your pads & rotors:)
@mann_idonotreadreplies
@mann_idonotreadreplies 2 жыл бұрын
I want that Shimano Ice disc😂🤗🤤
@nottiboppin6701
@nottiboppin6701 2 жыл бұрын
The piston on my brakes kinda came out when I was bleeding them and now they don’t work
@dundundata7603
@dundundata7603 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing the cleaning of the pads and rotors as I've found by trial and error. Boiling water does work great in addition to isopropyl and even sanding. I have had glazed brakes that I simply had to chuck out though.
@GHinWI
@GHinWI 3 жыл бұрын
@9:45...simple green &hot water FTW
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