12 FT LAWN MOWER! Woods Turf Batwing

[@kennethperian4370]

Good job showing telling, and good job with the woods cutting that grass. Keep up the good work be safe see ya next time see ya bye.

[@brucep9123]

The use of a wider mower seems to fit your situation Tim and the lovely yard shines when it is groomed so well!

[@bradwoodward2638]

You must have read my mind! I’ve been contemplating buying one these mowers. Now I’m sold!

[@slimmark5526]

Shout out to the steady camera while keeping up with the tractor

[@BiffsEquipment]

We just bought the bush hog version of this mower at work.. “TDC-1200” the minimum rating is for a 40hp and under and I mowed 8 hours straight on Friday with a 2038r no problem at all at roughly 5mph.. the field I mowed was 12” high and thick.. mowed it down to 2” high in one pass with no clumping .. I was blown away!

[@stampede3]

I had the 12' Frontier version behind a JD5220. I cut roughly 15 acres weekly. I had either the 12' batwing or a 72" zero turn. Time wise it was about the same. We have trees so I couldn't get between several of them and had to get out the zero turn anyway. The only advantage to the tractor/batwing was it was smoother and more comfortable. I have since sold it and stuck with the zero turn. In short, 12' at 5 mph vs 6' at 10 mph. The blade tip speed of the 12' was slower than the zero turn so it couldn't go any faster than about 5mph and leave a good cut..

[@michaelparker5814]

Tim im using a 84 inch woods finish mower that's an estate model my dad used it 8 years at his place put over 2k hrs on it I have it now to cut my lawn I only had to do seals and bearings some new blades it still runs great for something over 20 years old

[@Southalabamaoutdoors]

The faster, better way is to mow all the trimming areas ( trees, objects) with the zero turn 1st...then you have no worries or caution areas. You can just mow and go..

[@Zanderthelab]

I thought what he did worked just fine.

[@lawnguy3267]

Tim, do you think Christy would like the joystick operated zero turn mower by Country Clipper better than the standard twin-stick operation?

[@countrycaretakerpropertyse7981]

Tim. I am beyond impressed at how well you handle that tractor/mower. There’s no way I could get the lines with the overlap that straight. Awesome video.

[@quantumphaser]

Beautiful lawn, Awesome machine Looks like a great way to spend a day!

[@chrisjordan7441]

Great video I have mowed lawn with a 12’ BEFCO Cyclone 50 for 20 years with a Kubota L4310 cab HST This WOODS model looks promising!

[@timziegler9358]

What a nice setup! That JD 3046 tractor and a 12' woods mower are amazing. Best wishes.

[@HarryMCallahan]

Any chance to compare the Rhino 10ft batwing to the 12ft woods? The Rhino did such a great job on tough grass - hoping to see its performance on turf grass!

[@Kcolby47]

What a nice unit! I’m surprised at how well it did in the tall grass with the rear discharge. Look forward to more scenarios in various situations. Blessings.

[@doogiek13]

amazing turning radius, quite a nice mower

[@spenceryoungblood1235]

LOVE watching these big mowers work for some reason .

[@ronharrison1776]

I love that mower ! Years ago I worked partime at a sod farm mowing the sod fields with gang reel mowers . I can't remember if it was 15 or 20 feet wide and I was required to stripe it . I like the cut you get with this mower for sure .

[@nbookie]

We do 7 acres at top speed with a 54inch belly mower on a JD445 and two 60 inch finish cut pull dehind mowers with offset arms and 12hp engines (22hp on jd445). Way less cost, size and maintenance. Plus I can drop a deck when I don't need it.

[@snapperkc9317]

Great job and your property looks perfect! Good Luck with the new tractor👍🚜

[@bradperkins3337]

I could watch y’all mow all day! Beautiful yard, that’s what makes it so enjoyable….. besides the two of you. Lol! Awesome video even though there is no drone views.

[@WilReid]

As someone who nearly lost a 54" Toro ZT in a pond, I see batwings as very useful around water and in ditches. That looked very low stress.

[@smokerschuggin475]

You’re going to love that Woods mower. Their stuff is VERY robust. At work, I pull a a Woods Brush Bull 720XL that is probably 8 or 10 years old. It is out working 40 hours per week from April to September/October. We’re very hard on our equipment due to the challenging locations we have and it is just a tank.

[@halsnyder296]

I am so envious of your easy terrain and ground conditions! Hardly a challenge

[@jdfleetguy28]

I don’t trim much with my batwing at all really, I do most of the trim work with my X758 or cab 3046R with their mmm. The batwing is all I found that can get my mowing time down to something reasonable 2-3Hrs about an 1-1.5 hours with the batwing and 1-1.5 with mmm tractors. By comparison to mow my whole place with the 54” x758 takes 13-14 hours. Which I did that last year when my batwing was down with busted PTO shaft .

[@roybaughman306]

I would love this if I had your acreage. I just mow 3 ..I went from 60 "belly mower on my 1025 r to a 60" frontier pull type ..I love it..

[@terrybenson3632]

Hi Tim & Christy. Your lawn looks awesome!!.. Your herbi & ferti applications turned out great. Neighbor Chris is probably envious over your lawn. I have this WOODS unit with the antiscalp roller accessory you mentioned. It will really help you around your pond edges from the front wheels dropping into the wash outs. The front roller will hold the deck edge up on those severe uneven areas. I use it with my Kubota L4060 cab model tractor.. Like you said, it's a joy mowing with this WOODS machine.. Plus Tim, they're made in the great state of Illinois!!.. Have a great weekend.. Another excellent video.. "Hi" to Katriel.. Hope she's doing well in DC. :o)

[@timraber6575]

That looks like fun!!! And within minutes, your using it like a pro.

[@janicesheppard7245]

Hi sir. You are good job. Lawn very nice. Lot working. Thank you. Janice

[@ralphjelomono9068]

Grass looks great Tim. Lush and green. Kudos on the mower. I run the heavy duty version TBW144. My JD 4066 M is the tractor of choice. During peak cutting season I cut 15-18 hours a week. You are going to like the Woods. Tough equipment. Stay true to the recommended grease schedule and clean the decks after each use . Will last a very long time.

[@justinbeamon6624]

Essentially looks like 3 zero turn decks put together as an attachment. I think that's a good thing. Cut looks good.

[@lifeoutdoorseveryday1682]

You have the largest 1, 2, and 3 series of tractor. I support Tim; a 4066R is required!

[@lanceharsh7025]

What a gorgeous lawn.

[@n206ja]

I mow a 2100' x 100' turf airstrip with my Woods RD990-X pulled by a Kubota MX5400 with a cab. The finish mower really needs replacing, so your video convinced me to order the TBW12.20. One big catch: the lead time on orders right now is ONE YEAR! The dealer said Woods usually quotes worst-case basis, so maybe I'll get it a little earlier in next year's mowing season! I figured the batwing will be ideal for the airstrip - long, straight passes with zero obstructions and 4 rounds and I'm done! :)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Where are you located?

[@n206ja]

@@TractorTimewithTim In the head of the beautiful Sequatchie Valley in mid-east Tennessee. about 50 miles north of Chattanooga.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Hmm…that would be a haul. Was thinking of bringing our TBW12.20 down for a test run :-)

[@n206ja]

@@TractorTimewithTim Yes, that would be quite a haul! :}

[@n206ja]

Well, I really lucked-up! My dealer just got in a TBW12.20 and the customer who ordered it had bought a batwing rotary cutter while waiting on the Woods finish mower. He decided to stay with the rotary cutter and declined to take delivery of the TBW12.20, so yesterday the dealer offered it to me! That cut nine months off my wait time! The airstrip's grass is barely high enough to cut and growing season is over but at least I can try it out once before winter. Of course, the best part is that it'll be all ready to go when that fescue starts jumping in the spring!

[@andrewjohn9813]

Mowing and state park we didn't get a finish mower but did get a 15 foot batwing brush hog which scalp's I bit easier but being able to mow at 7 or 8 mph has saved us almost 2 days of mowing time

[@edwardhogan8197]

Woods makes the best mowers in the industry. I work for a Deere dealer, came from Kubota and we also sell Woods rotary cutters over Deeres.

[@loganmartin8613]

I remember woods having lots of problems with their bat wings. Is that fixed now?

[@michaelbarrett1504]

From what I am seeing that cut quality is excellent.

[@charlesmartin8047]

I have a smaller setup-1023 with a GM1048E- but as you pointed out, I much prefer the mower behind me. I don't like grass on me or the grille of my tractor. Very informative and Woods does make quality equipment.

[@uhitskyle]

I think batwing mowers are so cool.

[@adammiddleton4037]

Great video guys! This is my dream setup…. Would like to see a side by side cut comparison of this and the Rhino

[@jackalay23]

I mow with a 10 foot Lastec 621ER behind my TC34DA. Their is nothing more satisfying than cutting your first pass with a large finish mower. The Lastec is 3pt mounted so the control is a little better than a pull behind. Cutting time is a little better than a zero turn but the main advantage is being able to go slower. The ride is much smoother with the slower tractor versus the high speed on the ZT. I like comfort these days versus having my teeth knocked loose cutting at 8mph on a ZT.

[@mattbarker7739]

Nice, time saver as well, I won't mind having 1 for doing my mowing as well, but I need 1 for a little Johnny

[@troyweyerstrass7312]

That’s a really nice cut! As tall as the grass is, not to mention damp, not so sure you could get away from the clumping. How long did it take overall or is it too difficult to tell because of filming? Happy Sunday, have a great day!!

[@Ventrac-lc6hz]

Hi, For a few green seasons up in Michigan, I used to run a john deere 4720 with a 15 foot version in a city parks department. Loved using it. One draw back to it was not being able to see too well if any vehicle(s) were passing by before changing lanes to making a left hand turn. The tractor itself was an open operator station with canopy.

[@jdfleetguy28]

One other tip I wanted to share is you may want to lock your 3pt in the all the way up position. Mine settled or I bumped the lever or something had caused my hitch drop into low mid position and turning sharp like you were doing with yours, allowed my PTO shaft to come onto contact with my I-match. That will ruin your day , sheered my PTO shaft clean off . $300 and two weeks later I had repaired and going again. Woods said August which was going to be a 4 month wait and cost about a $1000.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thx for advice!

[@kennethperian4370]

What’s the less power you need to mow with the woods.

[@adamstone6123]

Wow! That's awesome!! I love mowing!! I'd love to try that out! Me personally I'm in no hurry when I now I love it! Great video as always! ❤️👍

[@samengler539]

Hang n there Tim you will have a cab tractor. My wife made me buy my tractor with a cab. I love her. ❤️

[@chrisreddick36]

Wow just wow that’s a heck of a mower

[@StNixFarms]

Tim really like the mower. But my comment: You’ve really got your pond looking great.

[@clayboist]

Looks like you are cutting quite a bit there. I'd raised the deck another 1.5 but hey, a test is a test! Lol. Added this video to my mowing wishlist!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep. We like to cut at 3.5”, but woulda been better had we cut at 4.5”, then waited a day or so before cutting to 3.5

[@curvinleinbach]

I run a 6' Landpride rear discharge behind my GC2300. From what I can tell from the video I have very similar results so far as the power ratio, the discharge quality etc. Also the big one, the grass not blowing in your face. The belly mower is in semi permanent storage!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

If I didn’t have a Deere auto connect, there is no way I would use a mid mount. The Deere auto connect is transforming!

[@curvinleinbach]

@@TractorTimewithTim That's a valid point. There was no such thing back in 2006. SSQA also was pretty much unknown in the sct market. It didn't bother me at that time to drag a mower out but now with a recent 3 point quick attach I'm happy to avoid it.

[@MJF40]

That did a great job actually ! Luckily your lawn appears smooth enough and hard enough. My 2025r seemed to highlight my un-smoothness, bias or radius tires, compared to my craftsman mower even. My 740r with better seat and tweels front and back seems smoothest yet. Far quicker too ! I do plan to smooth my rough spots one of these days.

[@kevinholsten6026]

I like the way that cut looks, is that machine compatible with most applications! Or do you have to swap out to a smaller one pretty regular?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Christy and I use two mowers. I drive this one, and she ‘trims’ with the 96 inch Ventrac wide area mower. No kidding!

[@berthongo8531]

Yes, but how does it work with a 4 Series with a cab? Inquiring minds want to know. :)

[@rydplrs71]

Great video to watch instead of mowing my lawn.

[@charlesisbell4340]

I've run a 18' (3-72" decks) when I was cutting commercially. Draw bar was 2-3 feet longer as well. Biggest draw back to finish bat wings, especially in a commercial setting is having to remove all the blades at least once a week, sharpen and balance them all and reinstall unlike a traditional bat wing where you can just sharpen the blades on the deck with a grinder. They might have changed a good bit from the last time I ran one about 16 years ago is the crazy amount of grease points. Doesn't look like you have any dips or holes except around your pond but do watch those. We would have guys bending and/or breaking a deck spindle at least once a week do to fairly rough graded land. With around 2,500 acres of land (about half of what the military installation actually has) to manicure on a monthly basis, those machines definitely got a work out. Also on a side note, weed eat around obstacles before mowing. It'll make it a lot easier than trying to get up super close and possibly causing damage to the equipment.

[@BCrooks56]

This is a great episode, Tim. Thanks. It seems the 3039R is a great match for the TRW12.20 for typical mowing. And, like in the case of this video, can still handle things when the grass gets a little out of control (just slowing down). With a 2038R having nearly the same power states as the 3039R, do you feel it would have similar results? Do you believe (question goes to anyone else reading this as well), the 2038R would have preformed about the same. I'd like to mow with a lighter tractor on the lawn.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

This is a 3046R. I run it now with an older 3720 ...and it doesn't have quite enough umph overall. Of course, this is with cab and A/C. Turning off the A/C makes a noticeable difference. Anyway, a 3039R would have a couple more HP than the 3720, so it might be acceptable. I have not tried the 2038R. I should do so...but I suspect it will be a bit lacking.

[@tucksmith8300]

That’s a nice mower Tim

[@richardhowell2607]

Really nice mower. That'll cut mow time down a lot. Good luck with the drone license. To bad you couldn't use it on your own land.

[@herbertlittle2699]

Good job, i love it, do you charge the blazers or have it done.

[@NotMuchHere]

just a hard earned lesson for me and a suggestion for you, mulch those trees, especially if fruit trees! Salute

[@jdfleetguy28]

Love the video, really enjoyed seeing a batwing finish mower on the channel. I mow 8-10 acres weekly with my woods / Frontier 17ft. I am sure probably saw it on GTT. I pull it with either my 5115M or 4066R . I can mow 5-7mph . I did fight the clumping a lot last year , so ordered the mulching kit from woods late last season didn’t receive it till mowing season was over. Deere did offer mulching blades for it, which only made the cut and clumping worse. Hopefully adding the rest of the mulch kit which I had to order that from woods since Deere didn’t offer the whole kit. Anxious to try the new mulching kit out this season . If you decide to add a mulch kit to yours, you may want to go ahead and get yourself that cab 4066R, mulch kits generally do need more power to keep from choking or stalling the tractor.

[@jddriver9565]

what a nice rig!':D EDIT:...many have a 4R on it and it is a great idea...Christy: NO! That was so funny!😂 the only one you guys need is a 4 series than would have all of them (1-5) that you be great right😂 i think it would be great :)

[@photocontrol]

Impressive mower, it does a great job!

[@MuhaloTube]

Great job with the audio and editting, really dealt with the wind noise well. I can't imagine running a giant mower like that. I'd want to run a haybine and make bales XD

[@braxtonwiggins6576]

I use a Kubota L6060 cab and rear finish mower to cut my grass. I have a zero turn but only use it for the trimming which is not a lot. I much prefer the cab, ac , radio, air seat and most importantly no dust over the speed of the zero turn. Also the rear discharge deck of the rear finish mower leaves a better cut quality in my opinion over the side discharge zero turn

[@billweaver3114]

That mower is awesome like times 3 Tim make some wood blocks that Kristy can slip on to help her reach the pedals lol just a thought that might work?? God bless stay safe

[@jonathanwalkup4010]

I like that mower system

[@davidmartin7660]

Big lawn=big mower. We use an 16’ Toro wide area at school which gives a much finer cut, which is what we look for. Interesting part when you have mid mount mowers that large is you actually come up to the obstacles and turn into them to swing decks away. Weird feel at first. Second advantage is cutting ditches and slopes. Nice job folks!

[@doc40mike]

A cab tractor would be great in the winter also.

[@dwayneloftice2326]

WOW! What a mower!

[@bnewton5922]

I’m impressed. 12’ mowing width in one pass with fuel costs that’s got to be a little savings. The end result looks good to. I’d be interested to know if it did cut time off mowing that big front yard. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Hard to know. We spent lots of time with the camera.

[@slowride55]

Saving on fuel, but the mower is $15k.

[@johnirwin1837]

@@slowride55 , but a quality commercial grade 60 to 72" cut zero turn is 18 to 25k. My mower shop man told me he quoted a front mount, diesel Grasshopper for 25k. At the time the customer had no pulled the trigger on buying it.

[@jdfleetguy28]

If combined with a trim mower for trimming, it cuts the mowing time substantially at least for me it does. I am mowing 8-10 acres weekly with a 17ft frontier / woods batwing fish mower very similar to Tim’s. I trim and mow my ditch’s with my X758 and it’s 54” mid mount mower. All in most weeks 2-3hrs gets it all done. I have tried multiple different mower combinations over the past several years From top of line Z9 diesel 72” Deere zero turn , cab 3Rs with 72” mmm decks, X7s. My current combo makes it truly enjoyable, and cut the time needed in half or more depending on the prior combo’s I was comparing it too. I truly hate a zero turn , for multiple reasons, especially the reason Tim points out, zero turns just cover me in grass, you can improve it some getting rid of the side shoot and installing a mulch kit, but I constantly was getting my z9 stuck. Which is why I have a 4wd X758 now with mulch kit, pretty clean setup for open station, and no issues with getting stuck in the ditch or around the pond.

[@dudeman5788]

@@johnirwin1837 You'll never find a zero turn that will ride better either. Yes, brands like Ferris with the four-corner suspension helps but you cannot defy physics and most mid-mount mowers just beat you up.

[@workingmanrondoyle3287]

Great demo Tim 👍👍 keep up the good work my brother.

[@aaronchavous1968]

This attachment puts me in mind of the lawn company’s finishing mower they used to mow my middle school with. The tractor they used was a New Holland 545D with a 4in1 bucket. Speaking of New Holland what ever happened to Holly the New Holland y’all used to teach folks about used tractors?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The dealer sold it. We had borrowed it from our local Deere dealer who had traded for it.

[@chrisreddick36]

Is there a mulch kit available for the decks?

[@mikelewisoutdoors6434]

I like that mower but I love that tractor. It makes me want to trade my 1025 in for the 3046.

[@turtlehopper81]

great video as always. 2 questions. what does the yellow rope control? how do you adjust the mowing height?

[@1oddtech]

The yellow rope unlocks the mower decks so they can be lowered. The mower height is adjusted by the gauge wheels on each mower deck

[@turtlehopper81]

@@1oddtech thank you so much, I was wondering

[@robertkeime4907]

Impressive

[@jakes.1080]

Off topic question, how is the shelter logic tarp holding up, and can we see a follow up video regarding that?

[@dajayway]

Impressive mower is it brand new ? one thing i noticed there was no chains to stop the pto shafts spinning mite get more life out of the covers if they are always spinning maybe its designed like that

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Designed that way. I specifically asked Woods about this. They believe the covers will last longer, and that there is no need to stop them with chains.

[@dajayway]

@@TractorTimewithTim interesting thanks for the reply

[@zaineridling]

It should be against the law for two people to have as much fun as you do! I am impressed by its cornering. You should expect a call from Aaron (of VenTrac) ready to show you their latest attachment. 😅

[@frankhartmeyer9841]

Great video. Christy great job getting these shots. I thought you were using your drone here. You were a really good job keeping up with the mower.👍

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thank You! -Christy

[@ranger6x660]

Great video! Woods makes good equipment. I see you removed the loader on your tractor Tim. What is the advantage of removing the loader arms and not just the bucket? I just remove my bucket and leave the loader arms on my 33R.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Better visibility. Lighter weight on front tires. Easier to maneuver around obstacles. Try it! You’ll like it!

[@frassettor]

Good morning my friend. I was wondering if you would do a full review on both of your Kabota and 2038R. I’m leaning towards the 2038R but was wondering how the kabota is holding up for you

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Not very pleased with the Kubota LX

[@cashxx]

Woods has been around for years! Make good equipment!

[@danshearer2689]

What did the yard look like after a day or two, missed spots, grass uncut under the tractor wheels, and the wind rows left by cutting long grass?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Looks beautiful! No windrows, no sign of uncut grass.

[@jeffreycurrie3410]

Just imagine the quality of the audio, if you just had a cab. The wind looks brutal.

[@noelstractors-firewood57]

That works very nice. And yes the ride would be much nicer. I have a 1951 Ferguson tractor with a 6’ rear discharge finish mower and it is so much nicer ride than my garden tractors. One thing thou, I would not want to be behind that 12’ mower on the gravel driveway. Did it pick up many rocks and throw them out. ?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Zero.

[@chillywilly3397]

Love you guys and really look forward to the Bible verses at the end of your videos.

[@kandkmotorsports]

Quite impressive! TY

[@stevesmith-wc2gb]

I wish I could afford that style of mower to mow with

[@williammoclair2208]

Since you have run this a while now, can you offer comment on speed and job time compare to zero turn. How wide is cut on your zero turn? Thanks!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I don't have a big enough tractor to fully compare that. I LOVE running this mower, but I have to go quite slow due to not quite enough HP. I am down near 2.0 mph with my CAB 3520 (which I prefer due to A/C). I can run 3.5 or so with the 3046R. Really need 40-50 PTO hp to handle this machine at high speed. I prefer this mower to a zero turn for the large areas of the yard because the ride quality is so much better, I can stay 'cool', and the grass isn't blown up into my face. However, there is NO QUESTION that the Ferris ISX3300 we are demoing right now (72 inch deck) can mow the yard faster. This Ferris has a Curtis Air Conditioned cab. In addition to staying cool and reducing dust, it improves the ride. I can run that machine full speed in the large areas of the lawn and remain comfortable! Lots of rambling, sorry. If/when I get a slightly larger hydrostatic tractor, I think the 12 ft mower will be competitive with the 72" ZTR, and MUCH more pleasant (fun) to operate. If you are ONLY about speed, ZTR with good suspension and power (this ISX3300 has 40HP), you will be able to get a LOT done. Oh, one more thing. This woods mower has incredible cut quality. High tip speed on the blades, good 'lift'. Very nice mower. Hope that all helps!

[@williammoclair2208]

@@TractorTimewithTim yes, excellent. Thanks for generous informative response.

[@MikeInTrafalgar]

Curious, could Johnny X have pulled this mower? I'd think it would have the power for shorter grass. Not sure if you could make the hitch and pto work though.

[@marilynwitherell186]

Surely makes the mowing job in a must shorter time.

[@doomman700]

Rear discharge zero turn can’t be beat on grass cutting.

[@qjason508]

Are you able to reverse with the deck on when you are in too tight spot of a spot to do a u-turn?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, of course.

[@qjason508]

@@TractorTimewithTim nice and is it easy to clean?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Dunno yet.

[@steventhomson2042]

Love that mower! Very interesting. How is height adjusted?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Each wheel has spacers. Put the appropriate number ‘below’ the collar on each gauge wheel. Oh yea. You have the tractor for this! Too bad you traded the cab :-)

[@steventhomson2042]

Thanks! I don’t miss the cab at all!!!!

[@meandmissy1970]

Would you let me know what hp the tractor is and what kind of grass are you cutting? Thank you 👋👍😀

[@TractorTimewithTim]

45 engine HP, 37 PTO HP. I think it is a bluegrass, or maybe some ryegrass mixed in. Not sure.

[@raymondoliver7381]

In my opinion it beats the zero turn , mainly because it's a wider path of cut for a much fast cut , reduce time and fuel use ....... good video

[@zachschmitt7464]

Because of the rear discharge design of the decks and not being able to create the lift of a zero turn deck I would try using mulching blades if they're available to knock down on clumping since you dont need the lift created by standard blades