Which Cuts Better? Single Spindle vs Flexwing Mower, John Deere 2038R, Kubota LX3310 Compact Tractor

3 point hitch rotary cutter vs. Rhino TS10 Flex wing. Which has better cut quality? John Deere 2038R Compact Tractor, Kubota LX3310 Compact Tractor, Rhino TW26, Rhino TS10.
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[@Kcolby47]

Excellent comparison Tim and Christy. I’ve noticed in the videos that the flex wing seemed to do a better job, so it was good to see the actual performance. You explained it well. Actually been using my old MX6 this week as well. Blessings!

[@kaytod]

Thank you for another great video. I've recently discovered your channel and love it. As for the cut quality, between the flex wing and the single, Your flex wing will contour to the ground better allowing the blades to cut the grass at the given height, not taller where it may be more flexible due to uneven ground. Also, the three spindles should have not only an interlocking overlap but the blade direction should be opposite of each other across the mower. This lifts and cuts into the direction of travel from the trailing edge of the adjoining blade, thus making a cleaner cut on things that may be pushed down or cut on the trailing swing of the blade. As an aside note, I believe Land pride makes a 7 foot dual spindle mower that may fit in this category. It would have the roughly the same spindle sizes as the flex wing, but it won't hang to the rear of the tractor as far as a single rotor causing ballasting issues as a larger single spindle. Also it is offset about a foot to the right, thus it is even with the left side of the tractor wheels but sticks out over a foot on the right. This might be an interesting compromise as it would allow mowing ditches with the the left of the tractor and not allow the mower to gouge, but has a bit more reach for getting next to or under things with the exposed offset on the right. Thank you again, Todd C

[@marlingirl1815]

Great videos Tim and Christy, We've owned a 5' Rhino for over 10 years and it's been a blessing for maintaining our pine plantation. We cut 3" diameter sweet gum trees as well as mow Bahia grass, sedge, switchgrass and deer food plot fields. Speed, angle and blade sharpening are the main factors in the quality of our results. Naturally the three blade will produce a better finish lawn cut given the tractor tires will be narrower then the cutter deck width. As you said the vacuum created does a better job lifting the target to meet the blade. Glad to see you feature a Rhino product. Love that implement. By the way, thank you for the video of greasing the front drive axle of the 1025r lawn tractor. The JD engineer who designed the skid plate on mine, a 2017, aught to have to grease a few universals. I have to to use an extended Lock N Lube connected to a needle adaptor. Not fun. God Bless and be well.

[@Ajt1994]

Would like to see the offset flail go through it think that would do a great job

[@thom71]

Came here to make this comment.

[@djf2]

I was thinking the same thing

[@tomkeating65]

@@djf2 was thinking about a bigger flail mower

[@rodneycarpenter3253]

Would like to see the flail mower as well.

[@rfb7117]

Me too.....

[@grgygantz6760]

Used to mow the right away is for DOT up and down the turnpike with a 15 foot batwing. I was dragging it behind a Ford F 5000 tractor and I change my blades twice a week. Mowing in second gear only. Otherwise a supervisor would come by and go. Hey, look behind you. You left a win row. Cool video

[@robryals]

Comparing the cut quality in a field like that is just like hair cuts - what's the difference between a good haircut and a bad haircut ? About 3 days.

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

Here I am three days later. 😂

[@KSN2019]

Batwing is also 3 times the cost…just rent them

[@jefffisk8225]

Uh because nobody rents them.

[@waynebusse6376]

The big difference in cut quality is all about blade tip speed. I have a bush hog brand 8' with two gearboxes and the blades rotate a lot faster than a seven foot single spindle. It does a great job on grass but will miss a lot in something like goldenrod unless you keep the blades very close to the ground.

[@austinhayes3901]

I would love to see a comparison of a single, the flex wing, and a flail mower

[@dmorgan28]

I’ve had 6’ and 8’ bush hog single spindles but this 10’ JD with 3 spindles cuts better than either of the other ones. I’m very happy with it. The only thing is it’s a pull behind and the other 2 were 3 point hookups. But I’ve learned how to back the 10’ and it works very well. Thanks for a great video 👍👍👍❤️

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, it does take some practice backing it!

[@chrismalchoff7552]

I have a very old 3 spindle tilleston pull behind. I got stuck in mud one too many times, so I thought and thought and took the plunge. I cut off the pull assembly and large back tired. Made it into a 3 point lift with small pivot wheels in the back. Cost almost nothing and absolutely works great.

[@JAB1978]

Def enjoyed the comparison, and love the bat wing cut but that cut is a $12-$15k mower vs $3-$4k and I think is worth the money but entry level I'd do a single spindle until I got the extra $$ or work for the 10'. Great video, keep em coming

[@lucapecorari8801]

I think you should make a video comparing knives VS hammer blades, I have hammers on my flail and even on grass I can't say I'm disappointed. It ought to be interesting

[@rfb7117]

I agree.....need to see a comparison.

[@ATR-42]

Awesome video Tim! These videos are so helpful to learn operating techniques, making purchase choices and to see the capability of these tractors. I love seeing the 2038R vs the LX3310 too. thank you for your channel

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for your encouraging comment! We’re trying to be a bit more subtle with the LX vs 2038r comparison. However, if folks are watching closely, this episode should have been a BIG one! The 2038r handles this mower nicely. The LX…well…not so much.

[@happyrocklawncareandsnowre2141]

I would like to see the ventrack tough cut comparison as well against the other two, please.

[@canyoncrow11]

Keep your blades sharp always

[@ericfluty3257]

Love the channel and all the info you give us! Keep up the good work!

[@lcee6592]

Very good comparison indeed! Curious what (if any) difference in spindle speed between the two mowers with same pto rpm. BTW maybe climb up that tower and mount a transmitter antenna to start your own TTWT broadcasting network!!

[@rickeyburke2596]

Very interesting, ever consider using a sickle bar in conjunction with either mower. I saw this over in Europe. The sickle bar was mounted on the front of the tractor.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Never tried to combine them. I wonder why?

[@r.scotthill3082]

When I am mowing with a single spindle mower I always turn and go in the opposite direction on the next pass. I also overlap about the width of the closest tire. This takes longer but you get a much cleaner job.

[@terrygunter4926]

It would be interesting to know how much the two rear blades overlap the cut of the front middle blade. Do the over lapping areas line up with the tire tracks so that those areas get cut twice? On my single spindle mower it seems one side cuts cleaner than the other and I think it has to do with which way the blade turns in relation the the grass that has been push over by the tractor tires. It appears the blade coming from the front and into the grass that is pushed over or is it coming from the back and not picking the grass back up makes a difference.

[@rcguymike]

I was just going to comment that, the tires lay the grass forward, if the 2 outside spindles have the blade tips running the opposite way so it's pushing the grass back up that would prevent the one side from not getting stood back up, that would also explain why the grass gravitates towards the middle

[@ericvortecmax]

I’ve noticed that one side cuts better with my frontier 60 inch rough cut. Going backwards it seems to cut better too

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

@@ericvortecmax but that could also mean you need to sharpen one side.

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

Can you demonstrate loading and unloading that tractor and flexwing from a trailer?

[@killerar15]

My kioti tractor with it's 60" finish mower deck can handle 6'+ weeds and grass but it still has some spring back.

[@tb91506]

For sure multi spindle mowers leave a better quality cut, when (if ever) my current bushhog 285 wears out I will be on the market for one.

[@curtesamoangelos5995]

Watching from Yosemite Kentucky.

[@randyb6496]

Really interesting comparison Tim! I used to do that for living and it's hard to do well. Like you said, it is hard to compare on hydrostatic tractors as they lead you to the cut speed they like (and they're never the same!) Anyway, I think the results you're seeing can be traced back to several factors: spindle placement and inch/cut. The single spindle is pretty much forced to be centered behind the tractor. The TW26 is running CCW placing the 'forward sweep' portion of the blade directly behind the right tire track.... it is REALLY HARD for a mower to lift/cut tall grass that was mashed forward by the tire with a blade that is travelling forward. The TS10 has smaller, counter-rotating blades allowing the designer some control to try and place the 'back sweep' of the blades in-line with the tire track. I thought the TW26 did a great job cutting the tire track... cut quality will fall off significantly as the blades dull though. One of the biggest differences between the two mowers can be traced to the specifications. Both mowers are 'impact' cutters... they need tip speed to work. The multi-spindle has a big advantage: the smaller blade diameter means they have to run higher spindle rpm's to achieve the same tip speed. Using Rhino's published tip speed and assuming a 4 mph ground speed: TW26 = 2.66 in/cut; TS10 = 1.8 in/cut. The bigger mower gets more 'whacks' at the grass as it passes! Great job!

[@danne77sthlm]

A old farmer trick for the stones in the field you have there, put one of those electric small fiberglass fence post at every thing that sticks up out of the ground, as old fence posts, iron, stones, treestumps etc, we used very neon like orange ones that we put out every time after every harvest is done That way we almost never damaged a blade or anything important, you could see the fencepost a long way from the tractor cab, it helps a lot I think more youtuber farmers should do that as well, spend some time in the spring with the quad or tractors going around put them out, works fine if you dont have hundreds of acres but we managed it well on 500 acres (about 250 hectare I think in europe)

[@DeanCharles123]

The drone shots were excellent! Might have been nice to see the undsides of the mower afterwards to see if there was any damage from the rock/post damage. There are some nice speedometer apps for cell phones, FYI.

[@keithowen3847]

yes, I also would like to see the undersides of the various mowers as well as close ups of the mechanics of the various equipment you use.

[@kivetts04dmax]

I sure wish I could afford a flex wing like that, that’s a really slick mower!!

[@controlsplus]

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[@kivetts04dmax]

@@controlsplus ???

[@lancelamoon5294]

I bought the TS10 last year really should’ve got the 12’ but it is a nice mower though.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

What tractor are you using to pull it?

[@lancelamoon5294]

@@TractorTimewithTim Mahindra 6110C

[@robertbailie1873]

The flex wing looks level to ground. That helps

[@franklinstidham9037]

I have noticed the difference between the 7 foot mower and the 12 foot and 15 foot mower and ours do the same thing you showed between the both

[@bradmeacham6982]

One of the things I've always liked about your channel is your ability to show side by side comparisons of different types of implements doing the same job. Thanks! 🤠

[@benjaminclingaman7551]

I agree

[@stevestanley4724]

All the flexwings I've seen have 2 counter clockwise cutters ,center and wing and the remaining wing is clockwise. That cuts better because it lifts the pushed down grass .

[@brooster87]

You sure convince me on a lot of things brother Tim. If I can get a tractor one day I will look into the flex wing mower. I like that cut. Have you tried the Tractors with the cruise control? I wonder how much that would help the operator at times like this?

[@fastdraw30]

I cut right away for the county...we have used both styles, its really not as much about cut quality as coverage. Neither of the two actually should cut much different, they are made to cut heavy grass and light brush, for a smoother cut with better quality you need a finish mower...the batwing mowers do two things, one is cover more surface area, the second is it will conform to uneven surfaces better, hills, dips, ditches, the single mower will tilt and lean with the tractor. So at the end of the day its just how much grass do you want to cut in a single pass.

[@donfox344]

Biggest thing affecting cut quality is ground speed. The cutter is a material prosser. Ground speed should be governed by the amount material it is processing.

[@markgibson3050]

2 things missing from this comparison; blade tip speed & blade type (lift or non-lift)

[@richpicone7788]

The flex wing continues to impress💪🏻. Great video guys!

[@cliffjohnson2273]

the blades on three spindle over lap so the center get some of the grass get cut twice.

[@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm]

Great video Tim, both mowers have their advantage for sure and it’s nice that you pointed them out! Time is valuable and that flexwing sure was faster and provided a nice finish 🤠. Take care

[@CompactNation2022]

Single spindle works better in thicker brush where the bat wing will rule in pasture overgrown pasture situations. Personally I prefer a single spindle to be know wider than the tractor for those thicker situations

[@johnpaugh1607]

What about a flail mower Tim

[@Lackieestatesfarm]

I find with a single spindle you need to travel quite slow to achieve a nice cut, I find 3-4 miles an hour generally. I think the overlap in the flex wing is here you get the nicer cut, also it can flex to correct for the undulations in the ground where the single spindle is more static in its movement

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I’m sure I was below 2.5 for all of this testing.

[@lukassawatzky604]

Tim have you done a comparison between these mowers and a flail mower? I know I’ve seen a flail mower on the channel before. But I don’t recall a comparison

[@ritterjon]

💥 Great opening shot! Not sure how you kept the drone noise out but wow! Impressive! *Keep on tractoring!* #ARITTERBITWILLDO

[@mattphillips4260]

on my 4 ft hog i have found my tractor will go way to fast to get a good cut with just one spindle mower just needs more time to do as good as the bat wing also have to keep my blades sharper also

[@MustangsTrainsMowers]

You mentioned the lack of a speedometer on your tractor. I wish that the aftermarket made a digital mph gauge that showed for example your tractor is going 5.1mph. The other thing I’ve looked for and can’t find is a fuel usage meter. I’d love to find something I could splice into the fuel line going to the engine showing gallons used down to for example 1.2 gallons per hour rate. I had a lawn service years ago and it’s something that would have been useful for me.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Brad, if you have a Deere 2032r up to a 5e, you can add the smart connector. This allows you to see such info on your phone. We did a video on how to install it.

[@MustangsTrainsMowers]

Everything I have is garden tractor size.

[@jaxturner7288]

If you’re going to continue to maintain this property yourself, I’d suggest putting one of those loaders to good use and removing those large rocks once and for all. Or maybe you like them waiting there each time for more practical testing.

[@dondemarcus7937]

Very good video Tim. I use a 6ft mower behind a small tractor too. One thing I see is maybe a difference between a carry type mower versus the drawbar mower. I have noticed the mower will go up and down with the tractor going over hills and dips where the drawbar mower stays relatively flat as it is being pulled. Maybe some differences in the cut there. What do you think?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Could be. Good observation!

[@mitchp350]

You are correct. I have a 6ft 3 pt Woods, and I have noticed when the tractor dips into a little hollow it seems to scalp, but if the tractor goes over something it creates a raised cut, as the mower is lifted. I have an old David Brown 990 58ish HP and am having a bit of trouble getting it set up just right. I am thinking a pull type would be a better over all choice, but with that comes other aspects of set up.

[@madtater5948]

did the tractor have enough power when you got in the thick stuff?

[@garywaxler7866]

I've found that if your having issues with weeds standing back up then you need to go slower. Going slower means they have a better chance standing up & getting cut. I'd rather go slower & get a good cut the first time than go fast & have to make multiple cuts.

[@franklackie2469]

I would remove the stones so I would not hit them again

[@theharrellhomestead7636]

Something else to think about, a 3pt mounted mower works better in rough terrain, the mower can be raised higher to clear obstacles, or if you get in a muddy spot, you can raise it up, where a pull type mower is dead weight and can sink in the mud causing the tractor pulling it to get stuck. Both are still nice mowers though and this was a neat comparison!

[@lightning7582]

I've often wondered what if they put 4 blades on a single spindle instead of 2. Just curious if that would help at all?

[@craigsmith8217]

Look at it again in a few days to see what pops up.

[@jamesperguson]

Wonder if the flex wing blades being further back from the tractor and more lift has something to do with the better cut. I would sure love to have one for my Farmall 45 , I really enjoy your all’s videos. Thanks for all you do.

[@derekdreke4990]

It probably helps on the flex wing

[@frijoli9579]

Let's see the Flail mover versus the Flexwing!

[@joshblick]

I love your channel but it's a silly comparison because if you can afford to cut 12 feet in one pass vs 5 feet you're going to do the first one lol

[@WDunkin]

Great cinematic quality in this video!! Love the new camera angles and drone usage! As always your comparisons are bar none. Keep up the great work!! I would like to see a flail mower and the boom mower with the ventrac.

[@HebronGrandpa]

Speed does affect your cut quality. Slower you go better quality. Both should been at the same speed.

[@ssnydertrucking1121]

Tim, when i was buying my mower i was told a single spindle mower has two cutting surfaces. The three spindle mower has has 6 cutting surfaces so the quality of the cut is better. Price was the big factor in the end for me.

[@jayusher576]

I personally put a slight edge on my bush hog blade to keep the cut a lot more consistent.. in the tall thick stuff...👍

[@aaronbyrd9840]

speed wise, which is faster? Say you cut that whole 4 acres with the six foot mower vs. the flex wing is one faster than the other? I would think you could cover more ground with the 6ft travel speed wise.....

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Not even close. The 10ft will outperform easily. In lower density areas, you can speed up. In more dense areas, slow down. Overall, much more ground covered with 10’

[@Mrbink01]

I spent summers as a teenager mowing with a JD 4450 and a 18' batwing...you could cover a lot of ground.

[@derekdreke4990]

Man this is sooooo cool

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for watching!

[@Agislife1960]

If you have enough horsepower to pull your mower thru the different types of grass and brush, you don't need to vary your speed very much.

[@xaar9876]

Would the extra width cut enough time to use the flex wing to make a second pass at a right angle to deal with all the spring back and leftovers?

[@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin]

I know that smaller cutting decks for lawn care use computer simulation to design the grass movement and flow after being cut and while clippings swirl inside deck for optimum design. This could be a topic for TTWT the engineering going into tractor design.

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

I think he did software, not hardware. 😜

[@tractorjeff425]

Agreed. Seeing the grass come up in the tire tracks after you’ve cut it bothers me too. I also don’t know if it bothers the customers. I would assume it bothers some, but not all. If they call you back, I guess it didn’t bother them that much, if it did. 😉

[@GreyMassey]

I've got a question since this is not the first time that you have cut this, how come you have not removed the big stones, you have a grapple on the tractor?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

They are deeply embedded, and large. Would need to use backhoe. I should do it.

[@Puunkiertaja]

What is the advantage of the single spindle rear mower if compare it to middle mounted deck mower? At least maneuverability seems to be worse.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Handles heavier brush than finish mower.

[@DougQuarles2023]

Can you load the pull behind cutter and tractor on a tralier at the same time?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, fits nicely on my 28’ trailer. Would NOT fit on a 22’, at least I don’t think so. As for width, it is only 5’ wide or so when folded, and lowered.

[@jonathanfrecking1210]

I've got an 8ft 3pt bush hog mower that would work the snot out of your 5075e. It's a dual spindle too.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

…or I can just run the 10’ on it…which it handles with ease :-)

[@houndsmanone4563]

Tim nd Christi, thanks for the video. There's something refreshing about watching a rotary cutter do its cutting action in open field. Yep Tim, I too like a cut field that has little-to-no pop-ups. It's just cleaner looking. Enjoyed a full-watch. Have a fine upcoming week. 👍🏽🙂

[@PurpleCollarLife]

Great job with both. It's impressive that the Deere 2 series can operate that 3 blade cutter.

[@bruno8241]

I wonder if trying to level the deck out would do a little better cut🤔both mowers🤔

[@steveroper8733]

What about a flail mower?

[@timhood6970]

A gear driven tractor works great with a flex wing, I don't understand why you would think it wouldn't? I cut right of way for the Town where I live with a 10' Bush Hog brand flex wing and Kubota tractor, all you have to do if the grass gets thicker is drop a gear, it's not that big of a deal, I'm not big on hydro's for brush cutting anyway because of all of the heat put on the hydraulics if you run it all day on a bushhog, that's why I won't buy anything but a gear drive tractor!

[@coypatton3160]

And the advantage of not having to keep your foot on a pedal as you twist to see behind you. And a consistent speed as controlled by gear and throttle. HST is much better for loader work but is not good for longer runs of PTO implements. Shuttle shift is a great compromise!

[@FF4X4]

Tim Hood, I agree. I won’t ever have anything besides a gear driven tractor

[@chrissheathewoodguy]

what rmp are you running these mowers at? it seems low by sound. i have two options i mow with a 5205 jd and a 2 wheel 2040 with a 8 ft brush hog. considering a new mower as ours has quite a bit of issues. the bat wing should be a nice idea. thoughts on a 10 ft model for those models?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Wide open throttle.

[@garycorrick]

Three shorter blades combined to make a 10 foot mower will always cut better than one blade on a six foot mower. For me the problem is price besides that fact that my old Kubota L3130 doesn't have the power to handle a flex wing mower. Thanks for the comparison. Good video.

[@garycrumrine9538]

I noticed the center blade seems to be leaving more tall shoots than the two outboard blades. Any thoughts on why? I am guessing that the two ouboard blades are able to float on the terrain, while the center is set more by the operator/tractor.

[@aaronfisher9972]

I feel it would have been a better comparison if you had used both mowers on the same tractor to see how the different mowers effect the same tractor as most ppl only have 1 tractor and are using videos to decide wich mower to possibly get.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Hi Aaron. I showed the 10’ flex wing on the Kubota just two weeks ago. Check it out. Will never attempt the 10’ on the LX3310 again.

[@aaronfisher9972]

@@TractorTimewithTim Yes. I seen that video n I remember you having such difficulty. I was thinking showing both on the deere in a head to head on both mowers

[@davidcharles3131]

Do blades on flex mower all turn in same direction, I notice right side strip more prevalent on single spindle. Does this have to do with direction of rotation of blades?

[@georgweidinger5257]

i want to see for inside, who is working.

[@robertbailie1873]

The flex wing is a finish mower, the other is more of a brush cutter

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Uh, no.

[@johngrossbohlin7582]

Another variable to consider is the distance between the tractor tires and the spindle centers/blade tips. Perhaps the three spindle mower's greater distance is allowing the compressed grass to spring up more before the blades hit than with the single blade mower. It might be interesting to see some footage comparing the two from that perspective... though the control and measurement of the comparison would probably be tricky to work out! Maybe get someone with a high speed camera involved?

[@davidbalvin8112]

My flex wing does a better job than my 3 point too, just can't get in tight spots with it. I use a light bar and GPS for monitoring ground speed and overlap.

[@MustangsTrainsMowers]

In the late 90’s or 2000’s a John Deere dealership that I believe was in Cottage Grove Minnesota started making a rear left side offset wing mower for the JD compact tractors using mostly JD parts. I believe it was a 72” cut. It was a 3pt mount and driven by the rear pto. When not used it folded upwards. One lawn service in town had one on what I think was a JD 850 or 950 running it while also running a 60” or 72” belley mower. I watched it mow a local business lawn once and it mowed a lot of grass fairly fast. JD eventually told the dealer to stop making them.

[@andrewslagle1974]

Tim how does the 2 spindle 8' mowers mow? I have set up and sold them when i worked at the newholland dealer but never mowed with them.I am getting my new tractor this week and was thinking of retiring my 6'single spindle was looking at a new 7' but the double 8' may be nice any thoughts ,thanx .

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Haven’t had the opportunity to try one.

[@sassafrasvalley1939]

My BX23s is mated with a 48" Landpride mower. (You can see it on my ''Blade Sharpening Mentor' video.) It does just as you described for your single spindle mower when the blades are sharp. When they are dull, it leaves a lot more stubble and tends to eject unchopped piles of trimmings. It doesn't cut cleanly to the outside edges of the deck either. I have to overlap cuts by at least 4". Otherwise it lays the grass down and it won't pop up on the next pass unless you reverse travel direction on each cut. That might be an interesting comparison too. What happens if you spiral cut a field vs alternate strip cut it? When a field is cut by continuously traveling in the same direction (spiraling in from the outer perimeter) I always see spring up, at the laps. When cut with reverse direction on each pass there is much less of it. A question for you. Did both sets of blades have the same lift configuration at the tips? Or were they flat blades? (Flat blades are made for brush clearing. Lift blades are made for meadow/pasture mowing.)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Both are lift.

[@FF5754]

I have a Kubota M7040 4x4 manual transmission. My cutter is a Landpride RC2512. My machine can handle a 15 foot no problem but, when in thick damp 4 or 5 foot tall brush, that 15 foot gives the tractor a hard day. The 12 foot runs just fine and I can be in 4 low or 1 high and it cuts good. The 15 foot does do a better job because the stuff that pops up on the 12 footer can't on the 15 footer. Personally, I will never own a hydrostatic tractor. You lose PTO horse power and driving it verse just riding in it makes it more fun for me. For this 5 acres, if get a larger tractor. I have 20 acres for the hay parcel and it take about 6 hours or mowing when it's about 3 to 4 feet high on the off season.

[@Malakie]

Suggestion, buy some little flags like they use for power lines underground etc, and mark stumps or rocks so you don't hit them or for reference when you later come back to remove them. As for the cut stuff, what I do is a week after cutting long stuff like what you have here, I come in an do it again to mulch it down better.. Takes extra time and fuel but the only other real option is to buy a rake and bailer to get it out of there otherwise. BTW, finally upgraded from the 1023e to the 2032r.. what a difference. Especially with my stump grinder and grapple.

[@muthatrucka76]

If you ever have a flail mower/cutter/brush cutter.. you'll never have a regular rotary cutter again..It'll rip through saplings that would destroy a bush hog type.. with way less tractor horsepower than it would take for a brush cutter and way less money than a skid steer with a brush cutter..IMO

[@JCWren]

I'd like to see this same comparison but with a single spindle vs a flail mower with Y blades. I bought a RCR1272 with my LX4701HST, and in retrospect, I think I would have been better off with the flail mower. I'm not cutting the thicker brush that really warrants a brush hog, and if I can find a reasonable price on a 72" flail mower with hydraulic offset, I may go for that in the spring. Assuming, that is, any dealers have any inventory...

[@Ishkatan]

It seems to me that you are going faster with the single spindle mower. That means fewer blade swings over any distance of brush. I.e. over a 6 ft distance the blade passed over the grass fewer times at 540RPM if the tractor is going faster. You point about slowing down when the 10ft wing labored could be exactly the reason it does better. To compare quality, run both in parallel next to each other, or slightly staggered mowing the same stretch. Also, it may depend on the type of blade carrier on the spindle. a nice big plate that skips over rocks may reduce updraft compared to a bar...

[@tyrrellroach5872]

So I don’t know that any ruff cut mower creates any lift. The blades generally aren’t spinning fast enough. What I think you are seeing is a result of the flex wing being further behind the tractor and possibly overlapping blade paths. The combination of being a trailer and the blades being in a triangle pattern allow the grass that is laid over by the tractor to stand back up. Just my thoughts. But to summarize no I don’t think any lift is created by ether mower

[@armyguy19811981]

tim is there a direct link to be able to ask officer hoover dot questions?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

They have a Facebook page.

[@paulmollise1856]

Once you run a flex wing your get spoiled! , my buddy has a 15ft mower, make some time with it, when I hook my 6 ft mower up I feel like I’m using a lawn tractor !!

[@Ragnar1822]

If you want to try out a different tractor. Try am LS believe it or not there built pretty good for being an off brand. Another thing I enjoy brush hogging with an enclosed cab. It keeps me away from all the bugs...lol

[@jonathangalloway5706]

how do do you think the ts 12 would do on a L6060? or should I go with the ts 10? my dealer has a ts 12 in stocks. thanks for any input.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

You could handle the 12’ …but it will be slow in heavy stuff. TS10 is probably the best bet.

[@jonathangalloway5706]

@@TractorTimewithTim thanks for the help. I originally wanted the ts10. my dilemma is my dealers currently has a ts 12 new for 2k less than a ts10. it was bought before the current prize increase. that's the only reason iam looking at the 12. it does weigh 500# more, but shorter in length. thanks again forr your help, and keep up the videos.

[@jbob1274]

Fantastic. Like you I don't like seeing winrows or tire tracks. I would love to see a wooded area with the flex wing. Just to see if there is something other than maneuverability that would be a con.

[@ShaneZettelmier]

I’m like you, even though I’m just rough mowing some thing I want it to look good I don’t want little twigs and sticks and pieces of grass going up so I go and do it again. In theory though you’re cutting it to keep it from growing out of hand keep it from becoming full of rats and snakes and bugs and keep the grass from going to seed so in that sense it really doesn’t matter, you and I like it to look better but if a farmer does it and leaves a little struggle here in there it’s still accomplishing The primary goal if we wanted a nicer long we would go mow it more often and not let it get that out of control so I think that part of it’s just personal choice. If you just got a cut it down so it doesn’t become a jungle and you have a few straggly pieces then it’s not a big deal. It’s not a golf course, but I’m like you those things bug me. Lol. What’s more important to me is speed. I like mowing but I like it for an hour or two I don’t like it for five hours. Lol. I want something really fast that does a pretty decent job even on my lawn I don’t care if it looks like a golf course I just want to keep it under control keep it decent but most importantly I want to do it fast but I still want it not to leave the big chunks in the little baby tree sticking up because that does look bad but I’m not gonna go out there with a ruler and measure the grass either. Of course perfect is better but I’d say number one is the speed and getting the job done as fast as possible and then number two would be the quality of the cut but if I can get something that’s twice as fast does it have decent cut I’ll take that over or something slow that does a perfect cut any day