12 Stages Of The Hero's Journey - Christopher Vogler

[@filmcourage]

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[@scottisitt]

When 20 minutes feels like 5 minutes... This was amazing.

[@sabatheus]

I highly recommend Christopher Vogler's "The Writer's Journey". It's not only a great distillation of The Hero's Journey, but it's also beautifully illustrated. It's one of my prized possessions, as a writer.

[@filmcourage]

It's a treasure. We love the illustrations, as well. Thank you for watching!

[@CroakAScagBaron]

i feel like this video alredi recommended christopher vogler's the writer's journey....haha just playin, just giving ya a hard time

[@coreymyers5613]

Hey, this might be weird, but I have a question: If I am writing a story, and I was basing it off of the Hero's Journey, would it be alright if have the main characters cross the threshold before meeting the mentor character?

[@HelderP1337]

​​@@coreymyers5613possibly! The 12 steps isn't supposed to be a blueprint, in fact Vogler is on record saying that writers should actually be motivated to change it around, add, or even remove some. However, change it too much and it loses its footing and its balance. He gave the example once that by removing the Mentor archetype entirely, makes for a great horror movie, because the hero feels lost without guidance, and it actually enhances the experience. Hope that helps, and best of lucks.

[@chasehedges6775]

Everyone needs a good and well-written hero.

[@IFeelGreatAboutMyself]

The Never Ending story. The perfect Hero's journey with the most perfect story arch.

[@evileye302]

Wow! Love that movie. I have to rewatch it now

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

What about "Shrek"? Think about Shrek in this context.

[@payvibaby]

And literal archetypes

[@carlostomas1917]

As always, this is an amazing interview. I could picture my whole story in every stage he described. This is truly a very helpful explanation. Thank you.

[@kidanemariameyob8752]

What did he call step 10? Is it the hot pursuit or chasing ?

[@Gotblade]

It doesn't need to be replaced or modernized. Just told and enjoyed.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

"Reflect upon the Past. Embrace your Present. Orchestrate our Futures." --Artemis 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind’s journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul’s fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope’s strength re-steeled. But to earn final peace at the universe’s endless refrain, We must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)

[@Gotblade]

@@Novastar.SaberCombat We want to believe we create the path we walk but in truth we walk the path that creates us, hopefully with faith in something higher than human failure.

[@mckayhatch6723]

Amen, amen, and amen 🙏🏼

[@jimdavis2385]

The very best breakdown of the Hero's Journey I've heard. So many script people seem to have head knowledge, but they can't always get it out in an understandable way. Thanks, Mr. Volger. Excellent!

[@danieljackson654]

How wonderful is this. Thank you.

[@filmcourage]

Thanks Daniel! We are excited to share this one!

[@nextinstitute7824]

Woow, walking on the sculls and bones of the heros before him ... That hit home. Greeeeat thank you!!!!!!

[@slappy8941]

You don't know how to spell skull? 🤔🤔🤔

[@nextinstitute7824]

@@slappy8941 You don't know how to be kind? 🤔😉

[@angelarosa1995]

That was powerful!

[@HelderP1337]

​​@@slappy8941English might not be his first language, like me, I make all kinds of silly mistakes and typos sometimes, that feels pretty basic for someone whose English is their first language

[@willmercury]

​@@slappy8941 How heroic of you!

[@HeatleyBros]

Love this…so much.. that…

[@mageprometheus]

Thanks. My notes on the hero's journey have been improved. I feel that all plot points, pinch points, and beats found within the many story structures are tools to aid the creative process and not a fixed prescription. In every creative pursuit, intellectual knowledge must become instinctual wisdom through focused practice.

[@lonjohnson5161]

The first time I ever gave out a script to be read (to my niece who graduated from film school), I was expecting to get specific criticism on various items. Instead, she just gave me his book. Good choice for both of us.

[@TheWorld_2099]

Translation: Too much to unpack here, please read this book, get back to me when you can. Did you ever finish that screenplay, or just move on to another one?

[@randyperdew2460]

Great talk, I'm in stage 6 of my journey.

[@tgnavi2040]

I've spent so many hours on this channel, it's a treasure to say the least. whoever behind this channel, Thank you a lot for helping me making my movies

[@TheWorld_2099]

Speaking for myself, I can’t hear this stuff reiterated enough, especially from the foremost specialist on the subject. Thank you..!

[@filmcourage]

Cheers! This one is here if you need it again!

[@danielwilliams7161]

I've always thought of writing a story as its own kind of hero's journey. You take a mental/spiritual journey, make discoveries, push against your limits, and eventually bring your newfound knowledge back to your audience.

[@nickybjammin7629]

O yea I get that. How Bout Luke Skywalker in the Daguba system?

[@aaronharper444]

It certainly is. Often the story of making the story is more interesting than the story. An author essentially has to have a personality disorder

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

"Reflect upon the Past. Embrace your Present. Orchestrate our Futures." --Artemis 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind’s journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul’s fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope’s strength re-steeled. But to earn final peace at the universe’s endless refrain, We must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)

[@InnerPeaceSounds]

What a great lecture, thank you so much!

[@filmcourage]

What impact has The Hero's Journey had on your life?

[@chasehedges6775]

It's made me realize that life is precious.

[@chasehedges6775]

“What we do in life, echoes in Eternity.” - Gladiator(2000)

[@karamlevi]

Keep me alive during extreme childhood abuse, later… prevented me from dying of bone cancer, because I don’t survive that child hood sh*t just to die when I was in my early twenties. Bruce Lee movies. Clint Eastwood. Star Wars. Karate Kid. Rambo. I could not watch things like Never Ending Story and others because I lived in a extremely dark house hold and those films frightened me intrinsically. No matter how dumb some action movie may appear to some people, anything showing the Hero’s Journey contains some type of medicine to those that relate. Thank You-

[@ericdavidwallace]

This is absolutely fascinating specially, because it happens in the hour every day lives.

[@harjeetkaur8071]

Thank you so much I loved the way you explained it you explain it so much better than others!

[@filmcourage]

You may enjoy this version as well - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJbPZIVtbr6SpbM

[@Bad_Llama]

An excellent breakdown of the heroes journey. I especially love the defining of what a hero is at the end. Too many writers, particularly in modern Hollywood, don't understand heroism at all.

[@venenum1684]

vogler, your idea is always good tool to me. it's like a my inside elder voice. only now that I recognized your face & voice for first time. refreshing experience to see you, intead ot a wad of papers.

[@thecorona1784]

Absolutely fantastic, been waiting so long for this interview, thank u ❤

[@wisefactoring]

Just an amazing interview, masterful description. I’m developing a screenplay and this has given been a massive help. Thanks very much for sharing! ❤

[@diegorodriguez7460]

You're practicing the 12th step sharing the marvelous elixir your knowledge is. Thank you!

[@davidcarroll4058]

Mr. Vogler's gift to aspiring screen writers is immeasurable... To this day ; I remember our brief conversation at the Maui Writer's Conference years ago . Mahalo.

[@EdwinAsh-hi6yv]

Brilliant and well explained presentation of story structure.

[@blindrocket]

We could use some more good heroes these days. Thanks for the video!

[@filmcourage]

Thanks for watching!

[@hcook1023]

I like to see this channel do something on Eastern writing too, where the journey is more important or the antagonist is more nebulous

[@キラキラくりくり頭]

I'd also love to see that because they often break this mold. Ghibli movies are a great example.

[@PrismCasillica]

I just realized that the majority of my favorite stories follow this.

[@XBullitt16X]

This is a great video for fledgling writers, I love it.

[@invite_future]

Beautifully explained and summarized 🙏🏻

[@myfriend280]

Many movies followed this structure formulaically and caused more drowsiness than melatonin. Not the fault of the heroes journey. For a while everyone was writing in this structure and when everyone is doing something in art most are doing it wrong. I’ve read his book. Loved it. Still love it.

[@catherinehume9193]

Thank you. This has built on what I have learned in the past. Thank you.

[@filmcourage]

Very welcome

[@harpiyon]

Very nice, useful outline! I'd just like to add that at some point along the way, the mentor has to go. Gandalf, Obi-Wan, Uncle Ben, Ramirez. Sometimes the mentor sacrifices himself to save the hero, or wants to give him a final push or teach him one final lesson. Sometimes the mentor is destroyed by the hero's nemesis (who may also be the mentor's arch enemy from the past). Sometimes the hero can barely escape with his life. And now he has to learn to keep course all by himself, or with new companions who are not necessarily much wiser than himself. But with the mentor's guidance & training, and with the moral support of his new friends, the hero will soon have the ability to destroy the villain. Yet he will not do it to seek revenge, but because he wants to protect others. Sometimes, after a spectacular, dramatic final confrontation, he is able to defeat the villain, but decides to spare his life so he can help him become a better person. This is his final moral test, and passing it turns him into a truly great hero. PS. The hero & his friends can have more adventures, protecting others, while following a strict moral code. And later, after many years, the hero can become someone else's mentor. Then the cycle is complete.

[@DanielL.Phillips]

Wow! Very very good.. Thank you Christopher and Film Courage..

[@nismonolo]

i know George Lucas spoke a lot about his inspiration from Joseph Campbell, but i didn’t realize that Star Wars is basically exactly these steps in order haha. fully explains although why it’s one of the greatest movies in history

[@filmcourage]

Here is the follow up to this video, Christopher Vogler points out The Hero's Journey is NOT a formula - kzbin.info/www/bejne/apzcmZxsn6mpqdE

[@frazerburns91]

Inspiring and explained beautifully. Cheers Chris

[@mardonovatwins6209]

Found out I am at stage 8 , will keep on doing the work , thank you very much

[@NamastayGangstaArt]

Love the plane analogy

[@hcook1023]

A very important aspect in some stories is the death of the experienced mentor, That's great to set the stage that this is not an average adventure but worse than normal because even the professional had to sacrifice himself

[@xXArseni]

absolutely fascinating, such a good storyteller as well 🏆

[@fuindes_batwings]

I can't imagine storytelling without Vogler's Writer's Journey.

[@dinsfire8489]

masterfully said

[@Merp998]

This was very helpful for me, I’ve been working on my own story for a couple years now, and this has helped me see where some blank spaces are, and what I could do to add more to my characters. Of course, this method doesn’t have to be followed perfectly, but there are a few things explained in this video that I think are really going to improve my story.

[@shakeemwinn3647]

Big Fan of Chris.

[@aa.xviiii]

Gold!🌟

[@radiojockey18]

Thanks a lot, crisp yet detailed 👌☘️

[@nisebiggs6572]

Status quo Call to Adventure - cue horns Hero refuses the Call - senses danger - others discourage Introduce Mentor - reassurance and resources Get up and go - launch, turning point In the New World - figure out rules - allies and enemies The Approach - teambuilding, romance The Ordeal - near death and rebirth - blood on the floor - hero faces greatest fear The Reward - reflect on new identity - focus on finishing - increase in energy The Final Exam - on a knife edge Elixir - for the Good of the Community

[@kasturisudhashree1741]

Thank you so much , this helps a lot 😊😊

[@derck_man]

thank you😅

[@Teddy_Miljard]

Chrishtopher has written a lot about mystic and spirituan aspect of writing. In his book he mentioned he believes in some higher power leading him.. Pat Verducci has told us that writing a good story it takes some magic to happen. Many times she has got her missing pieces of the story while sitting in a cafe and some random persons talk about things she is working on. Eric Edson says the best stories are written by strange persons. He has mentioned that numerology has a big impotance in hit movies. Could you make a video about spiritual persons who write screenplays for the hit movies and are willing to tell more about things that I wrote above?

[@mystikrebel1089]

definitely agree with this

[@TheMightyDragon]

thanks for sharing this, its so helpful x

[@srj108]

Wow. Great summary.

[@winslowguerra]

This formula is for blockbusters. The masses want this formula. Formulas apply to pop art, pop writing, pop music. If you want to make a good living, write pop. And even then there's no guarantee you're going to be successful. If you want to write outside the formulas, make sure you love your own journey while accepting an oath of financial poverty. In any case, always keep your dayjob. Better, make sure your day job doesn't suck. Best case, you have a job or career that can fund your art as much as it deserves.

[@sethcashman1011]

Wonderful commentary. Uncle Joe Campbell was a genius.

[@deyvisoonjean10]

I love this channel. Tks for this 🎉

[@sl3102]

I've been working on a treatment for a couple of months now and it's scary how closely it follows the Hero's journey without any particular intent from my side 😅

[@kurukshetrawar6680]

Great! Thank you...

[@dddutuber1]

Well done.

[@Michael_Arguello]

The Sword that Divides is a hero’s journey for the ages.

[@ergocinema]

What's often overlooked is that The Hero's Journey is MYTHIC story structure, but not all stories follow this particular model.

[@elmerkilred159]

This is what I needed. I'm writing.

[@westernnoir4808]

The refusal is a crucial step. All heroes must be reluctant.

[@nickybjammin7629]

I like this guy!

[@lindamp9905]

Thank you

[@filmcourage]

Cheers Linda! Here is another version of this video you may enjoy - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJbPZIVtbr6SpbM

[@ablfilm]

this video helped so much !!!!

[@TheJadedFilmMaker]

great video!

[@seanmorris165]

I have this book , very helpful

[@filmcourage]

It really is!

[@briansinger5258]

"I bypassed the Character Development" - Ray Skywalker-Palpatine

[@acelive7]

Amazing interview, well explained! Does he cover everything in his book or a lot important elements are missing? I already bought the book, but I'm asking because the 9 videos all together sum up over 4 hours

[@filmcourage]

We have released all of this interview as individual segments. The final video is the full interview which is all the segments combined which totals over 2 hours. We imagine it is a little of both, his teachings from his book and some stuff you won't find there.

[@acelive7]

@@filmcourage Okay I see. Thank you very much for the feedback :)

[@Claggy53]

Anyone else immediately start visualising scenes in big movies? I could relate this to lord of the rings, Indiana Jones, back to the future, the matrix, rocky, never ending story, labyrinth and so on.

[@blampfno]

Of course none of this is necessary if the character is a strong, independent woman.

[@jamesdewane1642]

Good point

[@donaldsimmons4526]

Or 🏳️‍🌈

[@BeadingTutorialsNews]

😂

[@neurotoxinMX]

hahahaha

[@Matt_Mosley1983]

Anything else is a 'stereotype' 😉

[@teambyaryan6591]

wow tq soo much sir . but small requst , as hero journy s any movie sujjest us

[@damson9470]

Feels like my life so far icl

[@travisclymer4481]

I need my Princess back!!!! ❤️❤️💯💯

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

Jesus Christ is the only HERO. Don’t be distracted by the enemy’s fairytales and false light. John 14:6👑

[@djmaydraws3862]

You’re allowed to be entertained by stories and be Christian at the same time. Many story protagonists reflect Christ’s qualities, which can endear us to Christ more, not less

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

Yes, do not confuse reality with fiction. He is talking about mythology.

[@notanotherjamesmurphy5574]

good guy

[@dragonart6555]

My story has a series of mentors, one who dies, one who leaves and returns repeatedly, including betrayal, and one who might die. After the 3rd mentor dies, if she dies, the hero is forced to become a leader, people are counting on her to fulfill what that last mentor had started. Later in the story the second mentor returns, having experienced his own transformation, probably not a true mentor, but now he is ready to complete the work of the first hero, because the main hero set the circumstances that will enable that. I almost feel like there are two heroes going on separate journeys which overlap at points. Not sure if that can work.

[@audreykimner4121]

I lived this as a survivor of assault and the real kidnapping of my children to exploit all of my assets. After S.C. lawyers tried to put me six feet under, I became even stronger. I'm writing the book now.

[@dcle944]

A ten minute version lasts over 20 minutes:-)

[@martinakotia]

Amen

[@annalisavajda252]

The reluctant hero dislikes danger and adventure some people are just forced to overcome obstacles because that's their circumstance I don't like how some fairytales portray the situations as "fun" when realistically they would be anything but. It's like the war games people like to play they may not like the real thing if they get shot though.

[@RizztrainingOrder]

“Very evidently created before 2023, it is no longer the past, people don’t need to learn from mistakes to grow as a person, women are strong, independent, never wrong, boss azz W.A.P, and don’t need no man! Yahurr?” ~Snow Polychromatic, She-Hulk, Carbi B, some hussy~

[@roykehadrian7527]

Can everyone help me what Is the factors of Hero Journey?

[@starwaving8857]

Protagonist should lose and find rather thought lost but knew it was in your pocket the whole time.

[@TWHueyGuitar]

Midsommar...Dani is on the hero's journey

[@saltysailor2308]

You mentioned Campbell what campbell-new about myth might fill a thimble

[@Saadgold1988]

I think this is only applicable in quest and adventure plots. For example, its not applicable in escape plot!

[@victoriabeco591]

I want my actual life to be some variation of the hero’s journey

[@jaglazzarinim2558]

Joseph Campbell The hero of a Thousand Faces

[@stevepeterson9579]

"I came up with"?

[@geargeekpdx3566]

I have read both Campbell's Hero's Journey and the spin offs and Blake Snyder's "Save the Cat" does a more instructive job on true real-world screenplay timelines broken down to the minutes onscreen spent in each of the stages and the standard order (which is only suggested). All of the pieces explained here are worthwhile but still too conceptual and is missing the relative importance and interplay of the story bones

[@Manu-vm4wb]

People who follow Save the Cat, you know Blake Snyder only wrote two terrible movies called Stop or my mom Will shoot and Blank Check, right?

[@thomaskynes5825]

A shame that male characters are mostly denied this currently in mainstream movies. They are kept perpetually halted in the process.

[@Endruss2025]

Men run the movie business! Sooooo....???

[@geoffreynhill2833]

This whole series should be renamed "Film Formulae" 🤔( Green Fire, UK ) 🌈🦉

[@Sunshinepati]

🏆

[@Matt_Mosley1983]

Any chance you could interview Kevin Smith (he'd do it for free) or Kevin Williamson? It would be nice to hear from two completely different types of screenwriter that have had great success.

[@nickybjammin7629]

💯❤!!

[@sharonnugent408]

I tasted of the fruit of good and evil abput 18 months old

[@latenightlogic]

This has been de-bunked.

[@nismonolo]

i don’t think anybody said that it’s a requirement. it’s not necessary but you can still trace back hundreds of good stories to the outline of the hero’s journey.

[@karamlevi]

I herd your person itself was de-bunked.

[@chrisguevara]

This is a tool for creating stories. You can use whatever tool you want. But this one is based on many old and still relevant stories. If you don't use this tool, I'm sure it will still apply to your story because it's universal IMO.

[@luisneisblaschke]

No, it hasn't.

[@latenightlogic]

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