120kph/75mph Range Test In The Mercedes EQS SUV 580 4-Matic

[@motodxb]

I was in that part of Norway in July on a motorcycle trip. I must admit it was nice being in the tunnels when it was raining outside lol beautiful country. Alesund was just stunning and the mountain passes just wow.

[@Vhipir]

Nice to see you in Bergen area!

[@KrisRifa]

Great to be home! I miss the rainy weather 🤣

[@luis6674]

Compared to the Nio ES8 it didn't seem to do so well in terms of efficiency. The Nio ES8's consumption was 28.0KWh/100km vs 29.9KWh/100km the EQS, with the ES8 going at 113.7Km/h vs 106.4Km/h the EQS. Comparable temperature and both dry roads. And yet there seems to be a significant difference in range (ES8 302km vs. 352 the EQS). Why is that? I mean, the battery size is not so different, and the calculations for the Nio would give a theoretical range of 346Km ((100KWh / 28.0) - 3%). Was the Nio range adjusted downwards for some reason?

[@KrisRifa]

Sorry, but there was mistake in my chart when it comes to the net capacity of the NIO ES8. In my chart the net capacity is 100kWh, but it should be 90kWh. The range and math is correct, it's just the stated net capacity in my chart that is wrong. 90kWh/28,8 x0,97 = 303km

[@luis6674]

@@KrisRifa Thanks for the reply and clearing that out.

[@KrisRifa]

@@luis6674 no problem! Thanks for pointing it out 😊

[@domcroatian4044]

Tunels have higher air resistance than open road. This is not the route to test consumption.

[@KrisRifa]

@@domcroatian4044 what the heck? How do you figure that? 🤣🤣

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Please test the new e-tron 55 sportback with the bigger battery and improved drag.

[@KrisRifa]

I'll hopefully get to test this soon!

[@boenill]

Took a test drive with the Q8 SB and compared it to my own E-tron 55 SB today. 1-3 degrees cold and dry. The Q8 would go about 80 km/50 miles longer under that conditions.😉

[@Snerdles]

This is supposedly EPA rated at 285 miles or 458km. That would be based on 236wh / km assuming a 108.4kwh battery. You were getting more like 300wh/km (29.9kwh / 100km) which means the range you could expect is 362km from 100% (no heat losses accounted for). Since you can only charge 10-80% in reasonable speeds you have to take 30% off of that means you have to charge every 250km or so. Which means stopping for at least half an hour every 2 hours. That's pretty terrible for something that costs this much. More and more I think PHEVs are a better choice for anyone who can charge and needs their car to actually go any distance. My little underpowered PHEV can get nearly 1000km on one tank of gas and still does all my day to day in EV mode. EVs seem like city cars for rich people still.

[@Scrap-press]

This just exemplifies that SUV aren't smart cars. You can't expect something not aerodynamic to be efficient. Estates and sedans are definitely better choices, but car makers have higher margins on SUV so they continue to pump these out.

[@Snerdles]

@@Scrap-press MY point was more about the advertised range is nowhere even remotely close to the user experience unless you only drive at slow speeds around your own neighborhood and then charge at home once a week. If you actually use the vehicle for anything other than that the range and charging is going to be a major issue.

[@ani_b]

You're absolutely forgetting how cold the outside temperatures are and yes, this version of the EQS (and EQS SUV) don't have heat pumps - just PTC heaters which causes a lot of range loss. In warm weather, I've gotten ~400 miles on a single charge in an EQS 450+ with a 107.8 kWh battery. They have fixed this with upcoming revisions to both models and those should have much better range in colder weather as well.

[@KrisRifa]

Though I totally understand you argument, in reality you will start with 100% and can at least go drive down to 10% or even 5% without an issue. So at this speed in this weather, that means 317-334km or around three hours before stopping for 32 minutes which is the time it takes to go to 80%. Then you'll have 246-264km. So in total you should be able to go 563-598km and only needing to stop for 32 minutes. If you make that stop longer, then you'll be able go even longer on that charge. Personally I and most people stop every two or three hours on a trip to either use the toilet, get something to drink/eat or just take small break. Check you the previous video where I drive this car 500km across Norway, and I stop many more times than I to charge. With all of this being said there are a few things to consider here, first off - this is in winter. In summer you can expect to get somewhere between 70-80% of the quoted WLTP range at these speeds. Then you we are talking about 400-460km of range. Secondly this is one of the biggest and least efficient electric cars on sale, and it would be like saying a Ferrari 812 get poor fuel economy - therefore gas powered cars seem like city cars for rich people. Just look at the EQS Sedan in comparison getting 422km or range in colder conditions. That car in summer would easily get more than 500km or range in milder or warmer temperatures. We are talking about driving for almost 5 hours before stopping to charge to 32 minutes. And of you are one of those who drives 10 hours without stopping and anything less than 2000km of range is poor, then EVs just aren't for you - yet. But on the other hand, a person like than is in the tiny minority of users. I have the past few years been on multiple roads trips from Norway to the continent and driven ass far south as Italy, and it isn't a problem at all - it works completely fine.

[@mabizu]

Far way of the 660km WLTP on Paper! 🫣 OMG, most E cars suck in Range, never put on cool rims, roofrack or tow something, then they are unusable.