12V Van Wiring Diagram - Simplified Guide

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Cleversolarpower by Nick

Cleversolarpower by Nick

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In this video, I'm going to show you how to set up a reliable 12V electrical system for a camper van without breaking the bank. When my friend wanted a budget-friendly electrical system for his camper to travel through Italy, I came up with a solution that meets all his needs without costing a fortune.
We'll cover everything from choosing the components, what the system can run, wiring and fuse sizes, and finally, the total cost. Stick around, and I’ll walk you through each step to make it simple and affordable. Plus, I'll share the 12v van wiring diagram we used to build the system.
Solar: For our project, we could fit up to 400W of solar panels on the roof. We chose four 100W panels wired in parallel. This setup ensures maximum efficiency, even if one panel gets shaded. I'll also explain how to size the charge controller and ensure it can handle the maximum input voltage.
Alternator: We used a battery-to-battery charger to recharge the battery using the van's alternator. This is essential for controlling the current going into the battery, preventing damage to the alternator and wires. I'll discuss the wire and fuse sizes needed for this setup.
Shore Charging: For recharging the battery at a campground, we chose a standard 12V 20A lithium battery charger. This option is perfect for overnight stays.
I'll discuss the battery and inverter sizes required based on daily consumption. My friend made a list of all his devices and their usage times, including a small 12V fridge, laptop, lights, microwave, USB charger, and a 12V water pump. We decided on a 12V 200Ah lithium battery, which is more cost-effective compared to lead-acid batteries.
We also need to size the inverter to handle the surge power from the microwave. I recommended a 2000W Giandel inverter, which is budget-friendly and efficient.
Now, let’s put everything together in a comprehensive 12v camper wiring diagram. I'll explain each step clearly, including the cables, fuses, and breakers we used.
We'll break down how long it takes to recharge the battery using different methods:
- Solar Power: About 1.5 days
- Alternator: 4.5 hours of driving
- Shore Power: 9 hours

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@cleversolarpower
@cleversolarpower Ай бұрын
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@Ressy66
@Ressy66 Ай бұрын
@6:49 quick correction, 10 gauge is 6mm2 not 4, 4mm2 is 12 gauge, and since most PV's come with 12AWG (4mm2) with only 3-5 feet of cable, your up-to branches will be OK, but after the branch connectors you need the heavier gauge, perhaps this is what you were meaning to say, also you're paralleling, where are the individual in-line fuses? (Some countries mandate in-line fuses when paralleling - Australia does, fused internally accessible, before combined - when paralleling, used with fuse block method like you show on the battery line does away with branch connectors, simpler too IMHO), I'd also be using another breaker on the MPPT battery out, if for nothing more than use as an isolator, and also a breaker between battery and inverter. pro tip: when buying MC4's make sure they are the right sizing, average off the shelf are for 12awg/4mm2, you need to make sure the type you buy (using this diagram) is for 10awg/6mm2, or greater if your wire size is bigger, but 10mm2 (8awg) is the biggest you can get in an MC4, also important to note the largest cable dia on all terminals of things like breakers, MPPT, etc, as some MPPTs screw terminals are ridiculously small Last tip, for wire size, add up all your currents, protection should be 25% greater (as you make mention of calling the safety factor) but what it is also recommended is, the wire size should be 50% greater, eg: 100A = 125A breaker/fuse and 150A capable wire, this way there is no question of electrical wiring being cause for your insurance company denying you payment should your camper/RV/off grid or boat, burn to the ground.
@DaveAppleton
@DaveAppleton 15 күн бұрын
This was great, I'll be moving onto a narrow boat soon and have to deal with this exact sort of set-up. The problem narrow boats have is finding enough clear space on the roof to fit the amount of panels you would like.
@MatthewYBarbo
@MatthewYBarbo Ай бұрын
Really love how you explain everything here with such simplicity. The diagrams are easy on the eyes as well. Keep up the great content!
@LeePurtell
@LeePurtell Ай бұрын
Thanks Nick, I’m very new to this but am following your advice building my very simple camper van 410w setup, see how I go 😂 really appreciate the quality advice.
@stevewhite9813
@stevewhite9813 Ай бұрын
Your the man thank you for helping all of us with questions about solar...
@stevewhite9813
@stevewhite9813 Ай бұрын
I did have one question about 12v or 24v ? Don't you lose some amps going from 12v to 24v? Usable amps that is...
@kennethwilson8633
@kennethwilson8633 Ай бұрын
Very well explained…thank you…Have fun stay safe.
@oasisauto
@oasisauto 4 сағат бұрын
Thank you much for all this information 🙏…I have Q ….I have tractor trailer I need to do the same system all I care about I need Air conditioning system last me for 10 hours..
@erroneouscode
@erroneouscode Ай бұрын
A good design and no criticism intended. But, can I add that in a camping situation though sometimes you don't get the choice to park up where sun is optimal and all those fixed solar panels even when wired in parallel can be rendered useless if you're under trees. I can't speak for other countries typically, but, In Australian bushland that's often a problem when camping. It can be solved by incorporating either a second solar controller to enable 'additional' use of portable solar panels or blankets, Or instead a one or the other two source (position 1 or 2) switch leading to a separate connection socket (Anderson 50A) for portable panels. That way you can switch out the fixed useless shaded panels and still use the existing solar controller for portable panels you can locate out in the sun. Of course it adds to cost but the frustration of getting no sun on your fixed panels will eventually catch you out and make you wish that you had that secondary solar input.
@cleversolarpower
@cleversolarpower Ай бұрын
Great observation. We talked about having portable solar panels, but he didn't like to carry and set them up them all the time. If i were to make a campervan then i would have 200W of portable solar, for the reasons you just mentioned. Thanks for the great addition.
@canyondan
@canyondan Ай бұрын
Great information Mr. Clever
@cleversolarpower
@cleversolarpower Ай бұрын
You can call me Nick 😀
@Ocificap-J8r
@Ocificap-J8r Ай бұрын
Very informative.
@DarkSevariant
@DarkSevariant Ай бұрын
Informative, Informative, Informative...!! Thank You..!!! 😍😍😍
@cleversolarpower
@cleversolarpower Ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad it was helpful.
@ihabahmed1132
@ihabahmed1132 Ай бұрын
ٌYou are a flood of information,thank you,i am still waiting for the 9000 btu Ac backup system.
@cleversolarpower
@cleversolarpower Ай бұрын
I'm drowning in video ideas already 😅
@brianOcurradhin
@brianOcurradhin Ай бұрын
Good stuff 12v is safer than 48v ime getting 2 x 300ah eve .05 discharge rate, the prices are dropping also new tech storage batteries are on the way soon
@CoolStuff..
@CoolStuff.. Ай бұрын
cool
@manuelmetallica
@manuelmetallica Ай бұрын
Hi, is it not cheaper and easier to buy an Ecoflow solar generator for example? And now with the alternator charger looks like the way to go, any thoughs on this? Thanks and greeting.
@sanduafaceri2792
@sanduafaceri2792 Ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@stevewhite9813
@stevewhite9813 Ай бұрын
I will be upgrading my home system to 24 or 48 volts. I just can't afford the inverter yet.....
@nicke.3011
@nicke.3011 Ай бұрын
12v is great, but only for smaller systems, not home systems like yours.
@cleversolarpower
@cleversolarpower Ай бұрын
Indeed. I couldn't have said it better.
@eugen-m
@eugen-m Ай бұрын
Recharge from panels 1.5 days ??? I was also in the situation to choose, I would have liked this video material. but I was too lazy. I chose an Eco Flow Staion Delta 2 and 400w panels from the same company.
@cleversolarpower
@cleversolarpower Ай бұрын
Yes, you would need 1.5 days of sunshine (on average) to recharge the battery (12V 200Ah). You can check for your location on a website called pvwatts.
@eugen-m
@eugen-m Ай бұрын
@@cleversolarpower ok , and thank you for answer.
@konkaragounakis5924
@konkaragounakis5924 Ай бұрын
How did you get 14.4v? At the start of your show, Is that your battery capacity? Or assuming battery charging output? By the way luv your show bro 🇦🇺
@cleversolarpower
@cleversolarpower Ай бұрын
14.4V is the recommended charging voltage of lifepo4 batteries. Most are programmed at 14.6V though.
@konkaragounakis5924
@konkaragounakis5924 Ай бұрын
Thanks where can I buy your off grid book?
@Mark-gg6iy
@Mark-gg6iy Ай бұрын
Why not have a convenient on/off switch for the inverter? Or also an in-line inverter timer with its own on/off switch so that the refrigerator is only turned on every 15-20 minutes? Any other devices (ex: water heater) you turn on before use (shower). I don't see why there is any need to waste electricity through the inverter to a significant degree especially when on batteries.
@cleversolarpower
@cleversolarpower Ай бұрын
The inverter has an off-switch and a remote off-switch. I didn't draw it in the diagram. You should not use an on-off switch for the fridge as that will likely interrupt the working of the fridge. You can use an energy efficient inverter like the victron phoenix lineup.
@jamesalles139
@jamesalles139 Ай бұрын
4 gauge handles how many amps? 12:09 I heard 450 amps, which might be for 4/0 (four-ought) But the fusing and wiring sizing is correct, so I assume I didn't hear correctly (150A) yeah, listening again, it is just my old ears. thanks for the video!
@cleversolarpower
@cleversolarpower Ай бұрын
4AWG welding cable rated at 105°C insulation temperature can handle 150A. My bad for the bad articulation 😉
@jamesalles139
@jamesalles139 Ай бұрын
@@cleversolarpower Got me to pay attention - and yes that is an important point! Insulation rating matters. Some people get hung up on building wiring, in the U.S. that is often type THHN and they use National Electrical Code ampacity charts. It is also useful to evaluate the The American Boat and Yacht Council (ABYC) for vehicle applications. IF the distance is short & in free air, you might be able to push that to 160 amperes. I like your practical approach in making adjustments to find a real, available fuse! Well done, thanks.
@LawpickingLocksmith
@LawpickingLocksmith Ай бұрын
Lithium batteries only recently have come down in cost. But why not use 24 or even 48V ? The microwave will kill the 12V battery. Lights can be switched in series.
@cleversolarpower
@cleversolarpower Ай бұрын
Good question. Because a DC to DC charger is most available in 12V variants. 24V is also available but then you need a converter for your 12V appliances. So it's a balance between the two. 48V DC to DC chargers are quite expensive.
@nicke.3011
@nicke.3011 Ай бұрын
Use 48v for larger systems which will reduce wire costs substantially, and it's safer to deal with. Just 2 of the several reasons to not use 12v for larger systems.
@LawpickingLocksmith
@LawpickingLocksmith Ай бұрын
@@cleversolarpower Many ways to skin a cat: 800V cars sometimes split batteries and put 2 in parallel to charge faster on 400V charger. I would use 2 100AH 12V batteries and a few good contactors to series them when using the microwave on a 24V inverter. 2 small isolated output chargers to keep the batteries topped up when arriving on a non powered campground.
@erroneouscode
@erroneouscode Ай бұрын
@@cleversolarpower On top of the additional costs that you pointed out there's also a problem with deploying enough solar panels in some camping situations, or on the vehicle itself they're fitted to, to get open circuit voltage high enough to charge a 48v system. It then also leads back to series connections of panels and the associated shading problems. In the case of portable panels it makes it even more complex and expensive and creates a rather large footprint of multiple panels connected in series on the ground that all have to be orientated exactly the same to the sun. It can be royal a PITA with gotchyas just trying to save some money on wire costs as justification for going to 48v.
@paulgrandflickshow
@paulgrandflickshow Ай бұрын
This all seems very expensive.
@Misfitshredder
@Misfitshredder 20 күн бұрын
Damn you have the fuses on the bus bar? Sorry, but I thought fuses were supposed to protect the wire, and if they’re at the end of the wire at the bar, wouldn’t that make them pointless?
@cleversolarpower
@cleversolarpower 19 күн бұрын
No, not at all. The current through the wire is the same at the beginning and end, so the fuse protects the whole wire.
@LeePurtell
@LeePurtell Ай бұрын
Thanks Nick, I’m very new to this but am following your advice building my very simple camper van 410w setup, see how I go 😂 really appreciate the quality advice.
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