13 Month Old Aggressive Malinois Full Session

[@SomeMinorDogTraining]

For anyone reading this: I know that dog training can be difficult sometimes, but you're doing great. Keep up the good work, and your dog (and your own sanity) will thank you for it! ❤️💕

[@evamaczakeva2359]

I have a brilliant, smart and very strong boxer-gsd mix. He is 1.5 years old. Training, teaching him at home, in the garden is really quick, he loves to learn and a very good boy. But in the dog school, under lot of stimulus, very hard to get his attention. Doesn't care about treat, watches the other dogs, absolutely in alert mood. Trainers offering for fix it: treats, prong collar, pop the leash, correct his behavior with yelling etc. We have a wonderful relationship, and so knew that these ways as they offered do not solve our problems. This video makes me understand how can we learn to pay attention each other in a correct way. Thank You so much for this!

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@evamaczakeva2359 😊🙏🏽

[@AUDITCHRONICLES]

Thank you for showing us how to diffuse this kind of behavior in such a patient and neutral way. So many other experts use a lot of abrasive corrections & this video is so educational and a breath of fresh air to see.

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@AUDITCHRONICLES thank you 🙏🏽

[@AUDITCHRONICLES]

@@ChrisAltherr you’re welcome. I appreciate learning these techniques from your example. I have a 2.5 year old Mali rescue & whatever happened to him caused a lot of reactive & anxious behavior. I started to apply what you’ve shown in this video and your other videos & see a major difference already. I look forward to seeing how it shapes Zeus’ behavior over the next year while also conditioning me to be as neutral as possible.

[@mickeylegalhawk6510]

Liked this training very much. I study a lot of dog training. You did a great job illustrating what you were doing. Love to hear your story about how you got into training

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@mickeylegalhawk6510 thank you!

[@kchabak68]

The owner was smart enough to get help from Chris. I'm sure none of us ever had to learn anything about dog training. That's why we are all watching this most excellent video.😂

[@bjbumblebee5324]

Nice to see someone not relying on bribery with food for behavior and who knows how to work on extinguishing reactive behavior and normalizing what the dog needs to be social. I never used food or treats to train my gsd and he is amazing

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@bjbumblebee5324 🙏🏽

[@destiny8012]

just brilliant. thank you for this. please continue with the long platform videos 🙏

[@dyates6380]

Wow. Great video. I love this breed of dog and you really know your stuff. Thanks for posting this.

[@ChrisAltherr]

🙏🏽

[@julianandyvonne]

That was so good to see. I love your explanations. They make so much sense. One thing that would be good is a sound or a light so we can see when you are using the e-collar. Is it on vibrate or stim? Again. I really enjoyed watching you work Chris. 👍

[@ike21983]

Really respect your work brother! Great video!

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@ike21983 thank you

[@secondwind75]

Very interesting and impressive video, Chris. Of all of the training “theories” out there - clickers, treats, marking, positive reinforcement, etc. I have never seen your approach. You were able to communicate what you wanted from a dog with just a remote collar and your actions, and were able to provide a remarkable foundation for ridding his unwanted behaviors - all in under 30 minutes. Incredible. I would love to see more of your techniques at work. Definitely a new sub! Thanks for sharing this. Best wishes for continued success. Troy.

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@secondwind75 thank you! 🙏🏽

[@MavisTheMalinois]

The way your comment reads as if marking, treats, and positive reinforcement are bad things or methods that do not work. Can you clarify as clearly the aforementioned do work as training techniques and are far better than old school aversive techniques as a standard training protocol. That's not to say aversive techniques do not have there place, I'm absolutely not saying that, just like in our very own reality, we have cause and effect, but get 2 trained dogs side by side, 1 had been trained with maker/positive training, the other aversive training only, you'll see within 2 seconds which dog is which, the dog trained with aversive only has no pep in their step, no enthusiasm to train/work, the other dog will exude excitement and energy for the task at hand. This isn't opinion, this is fact hence why police and the military use positive training followed up with aversive once the dog fully knows the commands and what's expected of them

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@MavisTheMalinois not saying one is better than other. It’s very common for people to assume I’m using traditional methods or whatever method they assume to lump me in. Animation can be created without rewards. Any of my dogs and finished client dogs prove this. Keep in mind this channel is new. My FB and TikTok have extensive videos to view.

[@secondwind75]

@@MavisTheMalinois I think maybe you need to read my comment again. Nowhere did I say those methods were sub par to any other methods. I just was telling Chris that of all of the methods of training I have seen in my life, I have never seen anything like his and that I was very impressed. Perhaps you are sensitive or defensive of your particular method of training. I can certainly understand that. There are many “armchair” trainers out there as well as other trainers who have found successful methods who think theirs is the only way. I personally think it’s ignorant to dismiss anything until studied/experimented with. There’s always more than one right way to do it. Whatever works for you. Best of luck to you.

[@MavisTheMalinois]

@@ChrisAltherr I'm always open to learn. I love dogs and training with them so for sure I'm open minded. Why wouldn't we want rewards though? Animation can be created through pressure, coercion, aversion, body language, play and rewards right, but if I can get a dog today something by being positive, that will always be my choice, but that's just me 🤷‍♂

[@williamrobertson5114]

Nice job! Very good explanation as well.

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@williamrobertson5114 🙏🏽 thank you!

[@ronportillo3851]

This lady shouldn't own this dog. This is all she taught the dog.

[@CSIG1001]

perfect example of a owner who never should have owned this dog , and never was trained as a puppy.

[@wolfmoongirl]

Very impressive session and excellent concepts. I like your style. Following. I condition and use ecollar. I heard you tell her you would put a remote collar on him. Im interested in how you incorporate that since it wasn’t clear if you were using low level stim in this session. Was it just a back up if the dog went into avoidance?

[@MissSuzapalooza]

Fascinating watch!

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@MissSuzapalooza thank you!

[@candacestevens4446]

I have 12 years experience with Mals and I’ve never seen this level of aggression until recently. I have a 18 month old who is identical to this dog.

[@candacestevens4446]

I’d like to see the progress with this boy. I hope you do future videos with him.

[@teresamartin8344]

Excellent!

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@teresamartin8344 thank you

[@MWrR-b6f]

Good work. I did notice that when the owner touched the dog while he was amped up 2:15, she pulled her hand away, which reinforces the behavior, because the dog learns "If I turn around and bite this b** (or act like I will) she'll leave me tf alone"... I'm a less experienced dog trainer but I have so many theories and questions. Are you intentionally triggering him to teach him that this behavior doesn't get what you want, so he'll just eventually give up with the aggression, and further exposure to the trigger just becomes a normal thing that he has to deal with? If I'm way off, I'd love to know what I'm missing. Thankyou for sharing this.

[@Fabulous_exposition]

But did you use the remote collar and when? Just curious as to see if that sped up the process and helped communicate.

[@newearthpouya]

Very cool!

[@TonyFBaby]

What brand e collar are you using, when and how many times are you tapping the nick button?

[@topperisthedog]

Interesting video and good explanations and directions to the owner. You seemed to go directly into pushing his buttons to get him to react. Not sure I would have done it that way, but I haven't done this sort of training, so take that opinion for what it's worth. And maybe I'm being a little obtuse here but were you working him on the e-collar?

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@topperisthedog thank you. We always go straight to the source of problems. Fastest way to find solutions. Yes, this session was his first session being introduced to a collar.

[@nickayivor8432]

KNOWLEDGEABLE

[@goliard84]

All the real work was cut from this video: - fitting and putting collar on - attaching lead to the collar - putting the muzzle on - fitting the e-collar and finding working range All of the above aggravate dogs unless they are taught to stay calm which is the real behavioral work. It should be taught before doing anything else. It should not be done with an aggressive dog without barrier or protective equipment. With large dogs assistance is advised and sometimes even a sedation is needed! For example a hostile dog does not attack as a response neither does it stop the attack until it eliminates victim or faints of exhaustion. This dog is made to appear dangerous by increasing his anxiety which is not helping. Other than not preparing the dog for training beforehand, the trainer increases the anxiety and provokes attacks by: - taking the dog to a new place and new people without allowing the dog to even look around (difficult environment) - working in front of the owner (separation anxiety) - trainer demanding obedience from the guarding breed even though the dog does not know him - PATTING the dog on the head which is either cynical or amateurish I fully understand that to make likes, clicks, subs and money you need to impress audience but to someone who actually does behavioral work this is embarrassing to watch. You do not need to trigger aggressive behaviors to counter-condition them and you should be avoiding such contingencies. On the ethical grounds you should not aggravate the dog beyond what is unavoidable in therapy. Also suppressing behavior with electric stimulation is a last resort not a therapy method and is cruel when you actually provoke the behavior.

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@goliard84 sure 😂

[@MWrR-b6f]

Ok, cookie man.

[@PaulaDTozer]

Why do people who don’t work a dog every day choose a breed that gets super crazy if they don’t work every day? Am I missing something here? Great explanation and approach, but I’m not sure where and when you’re using the remote collar.

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@PaulaDTozer this individual does work the dog every day or regularly at least. The problem isn’t a matter of her working the dog. This is how she knows to dog. This dog has been this way from a very early age limiting her ability to work, the dog based off of her knowledge base. Thank you for the compliments 😊

[@magholy7333]

I own my second Mal and do not work them. They are well socialized and trained „my way“, they are very playfull, we‘re out 3hours every day and they are off leash even in town… It‘s for sure not a dog for every one, my second one ( male) was ready to be put down, after only three month he was fine with me and any other dogs. He loves to play, to swim and hiking. It‘s never the dog!

[@ritacama1633]

​@@magholy7333in fact, we need more details on how the dog is managed every day... dogs need trust and freedom, sometimes one is just not the good match with a dog

[@ronportillo3851]

People "civilians" should NOT own these dogs

[@cr7madrid95]

I'm afraid that my dog will soon be just like this. Same breed. He's been hyperreactive towards everything since 2 months old. He's now close to be 7 months old. Even though we train everyday, he's getting worse. By worse, I mean that sometimes he'll just snap at someone for no apparent reason and he's only getting bigger and stronger. Once he explodes, there's really nothing you can do. He's over his treshold, doesn't acknowledge me in any way, doesn't react to anything I could possibly offer/say/do. If I'll pull him closer, he will bite. So I have to wait the danger out, and then go back home because the session is ruined already. What do we train? Engagement for the most part, changing directions, doing stuff outside, eating outside. I train his focus, and train to redirect his interest from object back to me. We also train doing nothing around triggers, just chilling (he doesn't know how to relax). There's also tons of play involved, I really try hard to make going out exciting. Still, 5 months of all this, 4/5 sessions everyday, and I just can't imagine taking this dog anywhere. I envy the people that can take their dog out while doing the simplest of things, just to cruise, take out trash, whatever. For me, that is impossible and I'm afraid that it always will be.

[@K9_Connection]

How you fade out the muzzle?

[@LETCEO1]

Question, how did you get the muzzle on this or any other aggressive dog?

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@LETCEO1 the owner put it on

[@LETCEO1]

What if the owner was incapable of putting the muzzle on, do you have a system in place that you can share with us?

[@wendyrussell4191]

Do you give him eye contact?

[@jenn6471]

Do you offer training for me to learn how to become a trainer please?

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@jenn6471 yes. We have a school for trainers. Www.mydogtrainer.com

[@WHOTHESONSETSFREE01]

Respectfully but this is NOT a Malinois owner. TOO MUCH DOG for the handler. It's sad because a department somewhere could use a dog like this if not for nothing but detection work only and the dog would get the attention, training, and EXERCISE it needs to be happier and better behaved. Great job though.

[@sergioschutz1628]

You don't think it's necessary to load the collar before ?

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@sergioschutz1628 I am not sure what you mean by load the collar. I assume this has to do with pairing the collar with a reward. If that is the case, the answer is no.

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@user80014 thank you! I definitely appreciate your compliments. Unfortunately, everybody’s always guessing what quadrant I fit in. The bad part about this is nothing I do fits in a quadrant. Whenever I work with trainers, they always try to compare what I’m doing to what they know. “positive punishment, negative reinforcement, positive reinforcement, etc”. This only takes away from their ability to process what’s actually taking place. The example would be, you and I are having a conversation. What quadrant would this conversation fit in? People forget that Training is relaying information. It doesn’t have to be good or bad, negative or positive. Unfortunately, it has been ingrained that in order for a dog to learn there has to be rewards and consequences. People easily forget their day-to-day lives or they have learned so many things without either.

[@whitefamilydogtraining]

Great conversation with the dog.

[@sergioschutz1628]

@@user80014 Probably also some philosophical question, right? Is he stopping the jumping and biting (+punishment) or reinforcing calmness by releasing the stim (-reinforcement). Those quadrants become a labyrinth sometimes, I find :D

[@ike21983]

​@@ChrisAltherr Brother, I absolutely agree with you!

[@chrisr-m6568]

Haha ARE YOU SURE! you know what you're doing! Are you a dog trainer?

[@JosephSalinas-r4r]

I had a malinois that was like this named Tommy that I got from Phillipe Belloni...a real pos dog that wanted to bite everybody. A pain in the ass to live with. He lived to be 14 years old. Than i got another malinois from Rodney Spicer named Blackie that was an excellent dog. Was so sad when he passed. When you get a good malinois they are the best dog breed you can get.😊

[@CVUK]

You sound like a piece of $h1t yourself. It’s not the dog, it’s how it has been raised.

[@mickeylegalhawk6510]

Normal dog owners should not have a Malinois

[@burrt]

Bruh, this demonstration is woefully incomplete without explaining how you're using the remote collar. When, how long, how often, what level, where on the neck, how tight, and what brand are all crucial details to this style of training. Are you under the impression that your clients & viewers don't need this info, or that they will just pick it up on their own?

[@CharlieTheCaneCorso]

I can see exactly what's going on, levels ain't important reaction is important, maybe ur just not ready for this kind stuff in ur journey of training dogs

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@CharlieTheCaneCorso 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 well said.

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@burrt this video was not advertised as I’m going to teach you how to use a remote collar. It was advertised as I’m going to demonstrate how I train while giving explanations of how I’m getting the do to do things. Your assumption is the collar is making the dog do it all. If you’d like to learn how to use a collar, check out our school for trainers.

[@burrt]

​@@ChrisAltherr, You advertise it as a "video explaining to you what I'm doing and what I'm fixing during the process"". Obviously, the remote collar alone doesn't work a dog, but the use of it is clearly a significant part of what you're doing and fixing (how you get the dog to do). You ended the client interview proclaiming that a remote collar is about to go on the dog in order for the session to begin, your right hand was used exclusively to hold the worlds largest transmitter the entire time, and it seems like you were putting it all to good use from start to finish.

[@ChrisAltherr]

@@burrt you’re welcome to come to our school so that you can learn all the secrets. I think plenty was given in this video. Again this isn’t a tutorial on how to teach you how to use a remote. Everyone else seems to understand it just fine.

[@chipcj4819]

No thanks