14900K VS 7800X3D On All Warzone Maps - I Was WRONG About The 7800X3D!

[@Taraquin83]

Good video! Nice to see very good tuning! very few run their 14900K at 8000+. The efficiency if 7800X3D is just mindblowing! I just wish they had used a thinner ihs to make it cooler for those of us using aircoolers.

[@kmow0909]

Outstanding fluency in English! So many cool expressions and idioms with essentially zero accent. Have you been learning it your whole life? And really sensible takeaway at the end: we shouldn't defend such rich companies so eagerly...

[@Meansoduck]

This makes more sense. The 14900k has better one percent lows, but it's not as big of a difference as I assumed it was based on your last vid on it. Great follow up!

[@Beefy-Tech]

Yup indeed. Luckily I got to test em both before the update as the update buffed the FPS but also broke the game temporarily 🤣

[@waltersng1065]

Hey buddy just came across your youtube channel I have a 7800x3d with a 4080 I mainly play warzone with a 1440p 240hz 2x16gb 5200mhz ddr5 I set it below -3fps in game I average around about 220 little bit more but I've noticed i get a few fps drop round about -20 with a few stutters ect ect Ive also turned resize bar ( watched a video some one saying turn off ) Isit just the game or my system ( kinda new to pc ) Also new here and will be subbing

[@Beefy-Tech]

There's a solid chance it's the game ATM, unless somethings wrong with the system we are missing fam.

[@CanopusInfinity]

Sadly this game runs like shit and the performance gets worse every season. For the stutter you are experiencing, it could be because your FPS is dropping below your monitor refresh rate and G-sync is not enabled, causing the random stutter in Warzone. I had this exact issue and after trying different methods, I turned on Freesync on my monitor (I'm on AMD) and the stutter went away. What's interesting is that my FPS was already above my monitor refresh rate and I shouldn't have had any issue, but you know it's Warzone. Give this a try and report the results.

[@kalor_2296]

I have 7800x3d and 7900xtx, Urzikstan map is unplayable. 220 avg fps, but stutters like crazy. all other maps and MP are fine, smooth no stutters what so ever. I think they just broke the game for AMD users...

[@KerwynPromoter]

Only smart people would buy a Ryzen 7800x3d in 2024.. intel platform is dead moving forward

[@lightward9487]

Nah, Sólo intel use APO INTEL good why 7800X3D RIP dead Hahahaha

[@shaolin95]

😅😅😅 only dummies STILL buy AMDip with all the driver issues and dips lol I made the mistake with 5950zx and 7800x3d. Now back with intel (last one was 9900k) and everything just runs fast and smooths and it just works!!!

[@KerwynPromoter]

@@shaolin95 no one asked u anything why u even telling me what u have boy bye

[@TronTonics]

Lol Intel is still top dog so you can keep dreaming buddy😂

[@christianprice9832]

​@shaolin95 did you watch the video? There is no dip? What are you referring to?

[@Official_ADub]

75 watts vs 220 watts

[@akeemmorrison2589]

thanks for testing again this is the stuff PC gaming is about imo. I saw Framechasers do a similar test but I think his mouse settings was causing "AMDip" with the AMD chip. Others get around these numbers as well but yours are about 30 fps more. I will fs upgrade because of the efficiency. 80W for 300fps is insane

[@Beefy-Tech]

He has ECLK tuning...and I believe that's why he's had issues on his PC. ECLK tuning causes instability easier than any other overclock setting on AMD...hard one to get perfect, which is why I don't personally use ECLK on 7800x3d.

[@sambryant2283]

Mouse settings are the issue with amd and windows. I had stutters and lows with my 7900xtx and 7800x3d. The fix is as follows. In mouse software run 3200hz and 1000hz polling. Then turn sensitivity down in the windows setting to suit. This fixed all my issues. Seems like there is a glitch.

[@JohnnyEMatos]

@@sambryant2283 Same system and I gotta try this. I'm getting random stutters in all of my games. For a split second my GPU usage goes down and I get like 40 in the lows. It doesn't happen every second, but it will happen at least a couple of times whenever I play. This is with a 140 FPS cap

[@sambryant2283]

@@JohnnyEMatos yeah try it. I’m 3200 dpi in razer. Windows mouse speed on 5. In game sense is now on 1.98. Before I was on 800dpi, windows on 7 and in game of 7.00 and had terrible stutters. I’m shocked how this changed my gaming experience.

[@Barb4sale]

His mouse setting? He just moved his mouse around is all, same thing with any mouse setting.. Also this 7800x3d is supper tweaked. The issue here is "it just works" - when in reality the Intel just works out the box and you dont have to worry about stutters. But it is what it is I guess you get what you pay for.. Intel is more expensive and u get better overall experience and support.. AMD is cheaper and well good luck w firmware you know.. The problem is these tech channels always talking about power consumption, efficiency this efficiency that.. and then even make statements like "I could not tell a difference while gaming even though the AMDips are happening"... Okay then why don't you make the same statement about the power consumption lmao... Is anyone gonna know the difference the CPU is pulling more wats while in the middle of gaming? Nah bro that electric bill is gonna get paid no matter what....

[@TheMostSavageOfAllGeese]

Jufes has single handedly tarnished an entire brand of cpu (AMD) with his “AMD Dip!”😂

[@GoldenEagle0007]

lol hes such a 🤡

[@HeartOfAdeII]

@@GoldenEagle0007 but he spreads the truth at least

[@Eusebiugh]

@@HeartOfAdeII he eat a lot of shit, especially with that thing that his steam start with 3 minutes on 7800x3d while mine starts in under 10 sec. Lies. Ofc i can make mine start in 3 minutes too if i want to to show people :)

[@GoldenEagle0007]

@@HeartOfAdeII if you say so Jufes Junior

[@HeartOfAdeII]

@@GoldenEagle0007 thanks for the holy title sir!

[@wyldcs]

Best video on this topic. Thank you!

[@Edward135i]

Just the fact that the 7800X3D is this competitive with a part twice its price is a knock out blow to Intel.

[@tannato4864]

Hi my friend, your job here on youtube is simply the only one that show such a good comparison. Im from Brazil and my english is not that good, but id like to thank you and ask if its possible to make a benchmark with PUBG on competitive settings. with both cpus and optimized ram and revios like you did in this video.

[@KerwynPromoter]

Whats the best custom os for Gaming???

[@mapscorp]

Did you try out ECLK+Curve Optimizer tuning on the 7800X3D? I think you can get does 1% lows up...

[@akeemmorrison2589]

"leave alone the billion-dollar company" XD is exactly how fanboys sound

[@Beefy-Tech]

Yup🤣

[@HeartOfAdeII]

I really appreciate that video and information, it's good that someone shows tuning which is important for enthusiasts. However I think that 14900K is not properly configured and is mispresented in a way. You pushed cores to the absolute max which gives it that ludicrous wattage. Instead, you should've completely tightened all of the timings and settle for 5.7/5.8ghz (maybe without e-cores and 5ghz+ ring ). That's when the chip gets the fastest with its best efficiency. It's all about memory/ring, not cores. I still wait to see a truly maxed out 14900K in your videos against maxed 7800X3D.

[@Beefy-Tech]

Hello fam! Thank you for the comment ;) With all my rigs I basically disregard efficiency and go for maximum of FPS (max fps within reason, I don't delid or use liquid metal for any rigs) the 7800x3d is also running inefficient here actually! 76-80 watts is high for it, and it normally draws around 60, but I have the PBO Scalar and power limits slapped to the absolute max, which gives it that extra 20watt usage. On 14900K it just so happens that when you slap the limits to max, it uses a whole lot more🤣🤣🤣 I have actually run the 14900K at 5.8ghz with DDR5 8200mhz in a previous video to show people what it's capable off with a small OC on CPU and no timings done on the ram! The video showed solid FPS still, so indeed the crazy maxed out OC is unnecessary...but faster is faster so this "Max" OC version of the 14900K is how I like to use it.

[@JaydenZahler]

Hey Beefy tech, Huge fan of your content, are you by any change still optimizing/tweaking/over and underclocking for costumers?

[@Beefy-Tech]

Yes fam, I paused the website because I fell behind on scheduling people by a huge amount...so I'm slowly catching up to all the people I missed before re-opening the website.

[@JaydenZahler]

@@Beefy-Tech Sounds good let me know :))

[@Troynex]

@@Beefy-Techwhich CPU Air cooler is good for 7800x3d?

[@CanopusInfinity]

Great video. I just have a few questions, Is there any benchmark for ReviOS vs normal build of Windows 11? What's the performance difference? I'm on the latest build of Windows 11, and I'm using a 5800X with PBO settings. Do you recommend switching to ReviOS? What's the performance in Warzone?

[@Beefy-Tech]

I did an informal test using the cod benchmark a while back, and the performance difference was as follows Stock W11 Defender disabled - 545 AVG CPU FPS Revi OS W11 - 571 AVG CPU FPS

[@CanopusInfinity]

@@Beefy-Tech Thanks for that. I made the switch the other day and the performance seems slightly better on 5800X, but would love to see a side to side comparison video. Is it advised to disable Resizable bar for Urzikstan? I'm CPU bottleneck and my GPU is 6800 XT.

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@CanopusInfinity if CPU bottlenecked then definitely go down the route of SAM/rebar off, it'll help stability throughout the map.

[@Saschman73]

Which CPU is better for Warzone 3? Ryzen 9 7950X3D or Ryzen 7 7800X3D

[@t7274]

Do you have any interest in benchmarking more midrange CPUs and GPUs? Something like the R5 7600, 13600k, 3070 and 4070.

[@Beefy-Tech]

Hey fam, id personally love to do midrange cpus, but i only have available what i purchase myself, meaning fhe onky midrange cpu i own and have access too atm is the 5800x3d lol. As for gpus. Ive done 6950xt and 3080 videos in the past, alongside a 3070 video. Basically, video demand for most midrange gpus is fairly low, except the 6950xt, which people were really interested in and still are! I have a 6950xt, 3080ti, and 6700xt available personally, and i may make a big gpu video once im back from vacation!

[@martinfodor2848]

It's fun to read AMD fans, that's why I bought a couple of CPUs and made the mistake of getting carried away by the Hype. With AMD, as well as with Asus, by profession I manage to speak with the BIOS dev teams, of course under NDA. My opinion is that without a doubt AMD's L3 cache is excellent, and the 7800X3D is incredible and the best "for gaming", just for that and regular tasks. It is a great achievement for AMD, now with that concept I would buy a PS/Xbox and play too. Now knowing me, in my case, I got very frustrated with a 5950x3D. I've already gone through the 5950x and 5900x. Limitations of IF, Agesa and not to mention mem OC or PBO2. Let's say it's pay to play :) But if you like technology and getting more performance out of your CPU, Intel is much simpler, it's just that on average they come out with bad silicon, bad SP, I won the lottery! 8400 in an Apex Encore with a 4090 to play all in 4K, edit, do many tasks at the same time, it is incomparable.

[@mieciubimber9404]

advanced stuff. Super helpfull :)

[@yazannajjar1719]

Have you tried out the new GPU driver 546.65? After MW2, I have gotten scarred on updating new drivers

[@Beefy-Tech]

I'm testing drivers as we are speaking fam, ATM I'm on the latest drivers on my main rig and they are fine.

[@yazannajjar1719]

@@Beefy-Tech Same performance basically?

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@yazannajjar1719 yes fam

[@deluxebulls5939]

Both great cpus. Great time to be a gamer. Intel will have to pull something big out of the bag next year, I think they will with 15th gen. i jusat upgraded but I think I will sell my apex/14900k and 4090 when 5090 come out. That will be a 4 year system for sure, fully capable for any game on 4k and 1440p.

[@Barb4sale]

@deluxebulls5939 Yea I think they are jumping to 3-4nm dye.. So it's gonna be pretty interesting to see the performance they pull on that node now that they are gonna finally get caught up on the nanometer wars..

[@JuanGameplays4k]

🔥

[@Beefy-Tech]

yeet

[@markmorrow8o]

Hey man I'm sorry to post this allot but I got a 7900x3d and what should I set my rendererworkercount ? ​@@Beefy-Tech

[@SidorovichJr]

Did you run on nitrogen cooling that poor intel cpu?:) I mean 227w thats insane to cool that shit down. Also ryzen 70w is like a light years in tech

[@Beefy-Tech]

Tbh the Galahad Trinity performance AIO I'm using is actually insane...I've been able to cool 370 watts at room temperature of 20c, and even up to 400watts when I open windows and take it down to 10c (its midwinter here). The 4200RPM pump on it is next generation stuff, and the radiator is crazy thick...no other 360 AIO beats it I believe, but sadly the Version 1 of this cooler had faulty pumps lol..I just so happen to have a V2 with a fixed pump...so it's risky buying this cooler given you can potentially get a Gen 1. The 7800x3d you can cool with ease! I'm in fact cooling the 7950x3d in my girlfriends rig with a Fearless Assassin air cooler😂🤣

[@eduardwolf6756]

for the 7800x3d which is the best RENDERER WORKER COUNT U USED

[@blobkarting33]

7

[@waltersng1065]

I did have 7 but now I've used 8

[@Bdot888]

That 14900k is a power hog. If intel could work on their power efficiency in future releases, then i would consider them

[@OneCosmic749]

It's only a power hog when you are an you know what and set some absurd numbers in the BIOS lol :D

[@ftsa6654]

could you make a video for the 7800x3d on what is the best way to maximize performance? Going from something that has the most impact, and slowly going down into the rabbit hole for more complicated tweaks that offer smaller returns. I currently only have my gpu oc'D through msi afterburner, but wasnt sure what the next easiest way to maximize performance would be.

[@jens468]

there isn't much you can do to increase performance on the 7800X3D. I got some custom ram timings going, PBO enabled, CO -35 with LLC at 8 on an ASUS board. ~18700 CB23

[@Beefy-Tech]

Hello fam! Tbh, it depends what you define as a tweak. Installing Revi OS (custom windows) is about a 10-20 FPS boost in most CPU bound spots. Fully undervolting the CPU is another 10-20 FPS gain in cod... I'd personally say undervolting correctly may be a bit tough for some, but installing revi should be easy as I even just did a video on how to install it! These 2 things are the 2 big top dogs of "tweaks" for extra FPS I'd say. The rest is small things that add up slowly, including the ram tune, which does very little lol.

[@MotoMedicine904]

How are yall getting such good 1% lows in Warzone? Urzikstan destroys my lows. I have a 7800x3d and a 7900xtx. I play at 1440p natively which mostly competetive settings and my lows will just drop below 100 and never come back. It’s annoying as hell because it’s really only that map that does this to me

[@M0rphlink]

Doing gaming 1440p/4k Benchmarks in native 1080p Monitor. the end result will be the same performance if it was on native 1440p/4k monitor? (im aware the graphics quality will not be the same)

[@igorzanetti5189]

Yes it is, what impacts on the performance is the rendering resolution, not the output you go for, the same goes if u use a 4k monitor combined with 1080 render resolution.

[@GoldenEagle0007]

the biggest W on AMD is that the motherboard will support few more generations of CPU's and ofcourse you don't need to open your windows to be able to breath 😆

[@Beefy-Tech]

Yup! I bought 3 motherboards from AMD back when I was experimenting different bios's and I love that I'll be able to use my spare mobo for next gen X3D! Biggest upside easily!

[@GoldenEagle0007]

@@Beefy-Tech huge W

[@zagohcap1]

What about after Windows 11 24H2 update?

[@JQURNEY]

Whens the 7950x3D video coming out ?

[@serkanyngn]

Can u test new amd frame generation with latest patch?

[@Al-hk6yi]

those better intel 1% lows are still a result of an overall faster memory and latency.. not the cpu clocks or ipc at all

[@Beefy-Tech]

The 7800X3D doesn't scale with memory...if I had DDR5 8400mhz on it, I'd have nearly identical FPS to the 7800mhz kit I'm running on the 7800x3d currently. If I DISABLE XMP, it loses like 12-15 FPS at most... Yes 4800mhz to 7800Mhz is 15 FPS or LESS on 7800x3d. There's currently no way to improve the 1% lows on the 7800x3d enough to beat my intel system. On that note, I know a guy with a 7950x3d who matches the 1% lows and beats my averages on the intel system... So with a 7950x3d it's possible to do it!

[@Al-hk6yi]

@@Beefy-Tech for sure on 7950x3d read bandwidth figure is way higher so defo possible...

[@HeartOfAdeII]

Memory and latency are responsible for IPC, it's not separate. They affect instructions per clock. Sensitivity is insane on Intel though, and it's smoother in many games/windows because of that, as I understand.

[@Al-hk6yi]

@@HeartOfAdeII well.. you should study what IPCs are, IPCs are derived in this order, processor architecture and or features first, second clock cycles, third memory... everything is important however a processor can have more ipcs even with lower clocks and memory than another want try? buy a 11900k and a 13900k, set them same core speed and memory, run a single core benchmark and report back.

[@Al-hk6yi]

@@HeartOfAdeII or, buy a 7800x3d lock core speed at 4800 MHz, buy a 13900k do the same, than set 6000 MHz mem speed for both with same timings, and report back that the 13900k has anyway higher ipcs

[@aLeb7-]

Is it better to enable or disable the Re-Bar on 7950x3d, windows 10?

[@Muldeeer]

Probably better to enable.

[@ZWortek]

IIRC, for multiplayer it seems rebar enabled is better but for zombies disabled is best. Urzikstan had more consistent performance with rebar off, all according to Beefys testing.

[@christianprice9832]

BTW what is this Revi OS? Is it Riva Tuner?

[@Beefy-Tech]

Hello fam! It's a custom windows install the debloats and improves performance!

What CPU would I get for 1440p?

[@ivanivezic4875]

Hags on or off? I have it off now and it is kinda less stuttery...

[@BenchmarkingTom]

This might be a silly question, but have you ever tested Fortnite? 🤣 I'm curious about the results of your maxed-out 14900K compared to the 7950X3D. I wonder if the game performs better with higher clock speeds or additional cache

[@Beefy-Tech]

I have actually never ran Fortnite lol. I believe I had a friend test is and he was FULLY GPU bound even at 1440P low settings on a 7800x3d.

[@BenchmarkingTom]

@@Beefy-Tech Well, I really don't know what I'm limited by. I'm not sure if I'm just a game engine, as GPU usage is around 40-50%, and CPU is about 20%. I have max performance fidelity settings and everything set to the lowest at 1440p. The FPS count is similar at both 1080p and 4k with these settings, but GPU usage changes by about 10-15% in either direction. There are many misleading videos on KZbin claiming to have 7000fps, and recently, I saw someone with a 14900k + 4090 having over 2000fps, which is over twice as much as mine. That's why I'm wondering if it's even possible. I trust your videos more than some random guy on KZbin who could have entered whatever he wanted 😅

[@Diode7]

Just fyi i personally tested this and the 7800x3d performs significantly better on fortnite than intel i have WAYY more frames in fortnite not only that but slight micro stutters are completely gone with amd 7800x3d the v cache shit is just so much better than intel for gaming its not even funny

[@Pavasoz]

What’s your MC score for your 14900k

[@OneCosmic749]

Have you measured if an OC from the default 5.7GHz all core/6GHz on 2 cores makes any difference to the performance? I assume your power consumption is so high because you are running 1.4Vcore+ which is absurdly high for all core loaded if that's the real voltage. You can obviously run such voltage only in light loads like games but it could still cause pretty high power consumption. I would stick to the default 5.7GHz all core and undervolt to about 1.2-1.25Vcore and maybe set up to 6 cores at 6GHz and tune voltage.

[@Beefy-Tech]

Yes, it's rough 35FPS in the benchmark on its own (from 535 stock with only ram tuned to 570 with 6.0ghz all core). I'm game that translates to 15-18 more FPS. The voltage runs in OCCT just fine, but in prime 95 I need to open all windows and drop ambient temps to like 5-10C to not throttle, but none of it crashes despite the unrealistic temperatures I'm testing at🤣

[@igorzanetti5189]

Im looking for building the fastest pc for warzone, do you think 7800x3d beats 7950x3d or 7900x3d on fps?

[@paaged]

7800X3D beats them in gaming. 7900X3D and 7950X3D are made for stuff like renderring and will give you similar or worse performance in gaming than the 7800X3D while costing more.

[@telegruposgram]

Hi bro, excelent job. Id like to know if you could compare these cpus on a competitive match on pubg, 2560x1440p competitive settings. I have like more than 10 friends that would appreciate and share your video. There is no video on internet doing this test. can you please please tell me if its possible. thank you anyways.

[@delon-96]

14900k for gaming and videos 78x3d for just gaming

[@Thirdeyestrappd]

Revios doesn’t utilize 12-14th gen ecores because it’s based on windows 10 correct ?

[@FanaPants]

Man how are you getting this FPS, I have a 13900k and 4090 and get nowhere near this, would love your help. Will pay $$

[@officialdarko1985]

In options.4.cod23 in my documents, what is your render worker count set on?

[@Beefy-Tech]

7 on both computers fam👍

[@officialdarko1985]

Just got mine i7 13700K (for 250eu btw) and the game auto configured them to 16 and the game crashes like hell, tried to lower from 16 to 8 and it was more stable. Im running btw 7200 ram and 3080 @@Beefy-Tech

[@waltersng1065]

​@@Beefy-TechI have a 4080 with the 7800x3d... Am on 8 at the moment used to be 7 what would you suggest as people say this and that

[@OriiGOAT]

So, is it better to play on rebar off or on? I am using a 7800x3d with a 4070 and 32gb RAM (6000mhz)

[@reizanaliu]

For the 4070 should be better with rebar on since you will be GPU bound, granted that you don't have stutters. Personally, I don't have stutters anymore with rebar on, so I keep it on.

[@OriiGOAT]

@@reizanaliu I don’t have stutters at all but playing with round about 170fps is this normal ?

[@reizanaliu]

@@OriiGOAT depends on what resolution and settings you are using. I get something around 240-280 fps with 5800x3d+6900xt at 1440p low settings in warzone.

[@reizanaliu]

@@OriiGOAT I think you should play with rebar on since you are GPU bound and rebar helps the GPU FPS.

[@OriiGOAT]

lol what?? I am playing 1440p and low settings too. I am using rebar since I built the pc, Is it possible to help me out?..@@reizanaliu

[@Daniele0594]

Do you know what is interesting? It's the GPU usage differences between systems, Ryzen uses all the GPU horsepower but doing actually a little bit less FPS while the Intel system is doing more FPS but there's less GPU usage overall. Pretty strange isn't it?

[@Beefy-Tech]

Yes, to be fair with you though, the server does play a role in that...I notice weird FPS results based on servers all the time so it wouldn't surprise me if it turned out some explosions or kill streaks going off in the background causes that extra GPU usage occasionally, but who knows!

[@Daniele0594]

@@Beefy-Tech In almost all scenarios the 7800x3d is using maxed out gpu, where the 14900k is almost always on underusage. Can't be a coincidence and it's pretty curious, the answer relies deeper in the bios. Anyway great content if stability isn't taken in consideration

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@Daniele0594 oh that's what you meant... Bro higher GPU usage means the CPU is performing better as you are less CPU bound which always GPU to push harder :))

[@SALTINBANK]

Thank you for the video why rebar off ? i dont get it

[@markmorrow8o]

What should I set my rendererworkercount on a 7900x3d?

[@Beefy-Tech]

6 Fam.

[@markmorrow8o]

​@@Beefy-Techthanks man, Love your videos, I don't have revi os but a fresh windows 10 install, I know 10 doesn't have hags but it still feels better to me I turned off secure boot and tpm feels much smoother than w11,

[@markmorrow8o]

@@Beefy-Tech also I felt bad I couldn't find a 7950 or 7800x3d where I live in Turkey I found a 7900x3d for a good price its not too far off those two right ?

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@markmorrow8o W11 is hard to get working properly, so I don't blame you fam. I personally like W10 more too, but because the specific W11 23H2 version + ReviOS runs best for cod, I sacrifice and use W11🤣 The 7900X3D is perfectly good fam, you may need process lasso for it in some instances but its just as good as the other 2 CPU's.

[@terban84dich37]

⁠@@markmorrow8owhat is secure boot and tpm? Just curious because i have a lil bit of stutters i turned off hags and resizable bar (I'm on win 10 fresh install too) but dunno what else i can try! Thanks guys

[@valentin3186]

6Ghz P-cores, 8000MT/s and a z790 Apex board 230Watts... to match 70 watts 7800x3d, basic 6000 kit tuneable to 6200-6400 with subtimings that can run on asrock 650 almost the cheapest board lmaooo

[@OneCosmic749]

I would still not go the AMD way, i had plenty of Shitzen CPUs, don't want any Shitzen anymore, it only looks good on paper and not when you actually use the platform. Cheapskates can buy AMD and enjoy the issues.

[@puffyips]

@@OneCosmic749what issues? And don’t say issues from the beginning of the platform that are not prevalent anymore and don’t say amdip cause that’s been debunked

[@puffyips]

@@OneCosmic7497800x3d at 75watts performs the same as that 200+ watt cpu, you’re delusional to pick the intel one that is more expensive and harder to cool 🤡

[@OneCosmic749]

@@puffyips You are delusional thinking AMD's platform is as stable as Intel's. Also his benchmarks from the video can't be taken seriously because he OC'ed the CPU cores to absurd levels at 1.4V+ hence his CPU can be pulling twice the power it normally would without a performance difference 🤡

[@bladebk5537]

@@OneCosmic749 14900k draws around 160w stock, jeez just the power difference and price difference is a good enough reason to go amd

[@Legend1nTheM1st]

i have a 7800x3d and a 4080 suprim x the highest ive been able to get my chip is like 525 fps avg on benchmark and my gpu is like 295 avg with afterburner on and optimized clocks...am i doing something wrong lol? im at 1440p seeing 294avg overall and i dont even get these types of numbers on 1080...also im on win 10 pro

[@reizanaliu]

you need to change to win11 23h2 preferably with ReviOS

[@andypierce4455]

Hey, bro. Your 7800x3d is performing insanely. I was wondering if you could run a Cinebench r23 run? I am peaking at 19141 and most people I compare with in Mw3 benchmark their CPU isn't close to mine. You on the other hand are blowing mine out of the water. My CPU fps average is 536, while your 7800x3d CPU average is an unbelievable 619. On the other hand I have a 7900XTX and you have a 4090 but I don't think this would impact CPU average fps in the benchmark would it?

[@coolbvwes1]

I get 18700 in cinebench, but getting 636 fps on the cpu in mw3 benchmark, it is because you're running w10 probably, upgrade to w11 23h2 that boosts you're performance in mw3 it did it for me.

[@andypierce4455]

@coolbvwes1 I was on w11 already, but I am moving to Revi OS w11 now.

[@Meansoduck]

do you have rebar disabled? disabling rebar in mw3 helps a lot with averages and lows.

[@nikosfotiadis5600]

i have 7800x3d and 7900xtx.rebar i had enable.if i close rebar from amd adrenalin you thing i have better performance in warzone 3?everybody said rebar give boost.only in this game happend or and the others games? @@Meansoduck

[@andypierce4455]

​@Meansoduck Yeah, with rebar disabled cpu average is 623. Overall, fps is less, but 1% lows are way better.

[@duomaxwell1398]

Has anyone else noticed worse FPS in mw3 benchmark for amd gpu's? Mine drop by a lot a few months and still haven't found a fix.

[@BAG97]

obviously as everyone with a brain in the industry knew thats R7 is outwrite manhandling the core i9 13900ks oh sorry i meant 14900k in gaming................ XD thank u for ur honestry and transparency

[@squizy4989]

Hi, i have exactly the same setup and my avg fps on urzikstan is about 210-260, vondel 210-250 ryzen 7 7800x3d (pbo -30) cl30 6000 mhz msi x670e tomahawk Turned off resize bar What wrong with my setup?

[@reizanaliu]

what's your GPU?

[@janschmidt1952]

Can you please compare those 2 in cs2 ?

[@sporadicentertainment9253]

Why do you have resizable bar off lol?

[@pocino_9230]

Islc: 7800x3d polling rate 500 o 1000?

[@alecs2244]

What about stock settings for both builds? No tweaking no OC ing. Nothing. Most gamers won't spend that much time squeezing every bit of performance out of their builds. Most people want to setup the PC ,install and run games, enabling XMP should be enough.

[@Beefy-Tech]

Tbh I've thought of doing that, and just doing perfect software setup with 0 bios setup...but the issue is default XMP on each kit would affect results, and the default XMP on 7800x3d is 7800mhz :))) which 99% of people can't run at all, meaning I'd have to detune the kit to 6200mhz and copy some timings to simulate a stock 6200mhz kit... basically it's kindof tough to do a proper stock XMP only test on my 7800x3d rig due to the ram. Assuming I had a slower ram kit for 7800x3d, both systems then would lose 20-40 FPS Vs stock, as both are heavily overclocked. If you go by that rule, a simple subtract 30 FPS from Urzikstan on both systems would give you "Stock" but with software optimization real performance.

[@I.Will.Prevail]

Why are you using rebar off?

[@edgy5558]

Mate, I beg you to test these CPUs in other even more popular multiplayer games specifically CS2 and Valorant

[@Beefy-Tech]

CS2 I can't pop up MSI afterburner without the game dropping my trust factor which sucks. Valorant id do though as I think afterburber works on it.

[@edgy5558]

​@@Beefy-TechVery grateful to hear that, Anyway hope you will come around with that CS2 problem. But remember there are a lot of other multiplayer games beyond these 2s.

[@ceespolhout2439]

I’ve always been going back and forward on ryzen-intel and and/Nvidia I always conclude the same things ryzen cpu are cheaper and easy to set up but intel always take the crown if you wanna fiddle around a bit. And nvidia will always take the crown but amd cards are always surprising for the money.. My question about these 2 systems you tried is do you as an mnk player in warzone notice more input delay on the ryzen system because I can’t help but feel that intel is simply snappier

[@BilboBegKills]

Nice video as always. 😊 any chance we would get new 7800x3d setup/ a die ram tuning tutorial with sensible voltages? (Somewhere between 1.45-1.5v vdd maybe?) would be nice to see if I could optimise/learn tuning my machine just a bit more 😁

[@GoldenEagle0007]

you really don't need more then 6000mhz cl28 with tight enough timings on 7800X3D and tjen just raise FCLK to the highest stable

[@domdtxdissar]

You dont seem to know how to tune the 7800X3D, who runs 6200/2133 "max tuned" ??

[@Adel-sj4ue]

What about dip that fram chaser talk about every vedio?????

[@bhagats1ngh]

220w vs 80w damn!

[@zGiGi]

why dont you compare the 14700k vs 7800x3d

[@davidb.5486]

For the meantime I will stay with my i7 12700K and 4090 till next AMD and Intel CPUs come.

[@J.king87]

I agree with you. But when i game i have spotify on and discord and maybe a website and i alt tab allot 😅 i think most gamers do tho and then 14900k is boss But its sooo sad against what price. Specially amd has board for future and intel not

[@levispartan1993]

tell framechaser this lol

[@puffyips]

I swear to god people (intel fanboys) see amd win and say “well that’s not my opinion”

[@Nudels99]

Why re size Bar off?

[@humer101]

Lol, you are right. How are you going to cool down the 14900k? It is nearly impossible.

[@sarpp69]

i think there was something wrong with your 1:1 setup if this is giving better one percent lows.

[@sarpp69]

@@puffyips i mean amd gear 1 vs 2, not comparing intel.

[@Beefy-Tech]

My previous setup method was the same as in this video, I just clarified that it is a 2:1 configuration. I didn't have revi OS installed in previous video which is what made all the FPS differences.

[@weyo14]

Next time you test the 1% lows can you flick the mouse around please I want to see if amd still dips

[@BlackEagleFPS]

Bro How can I achive to 5050mhz on 7800x3d Im on 240mm aio

[@valentin3186]

-30 Curve Optimizer?

[@puffyips]

Some simply won’t sustain 5ghz but rather 4.9 4.85 and that’s fine

[@Rampagefpss]

14900k vs 7800x3d latency comparation

[@Beefy-Tech]

Like the render latency or end to end latency of whole computer? The frame time line shows the render latency, and assuming same settings on monitor, the end to end latency will be extremely close between the systems.

[@Rampagefpss]

@@Beefy-Tech like the whole system latency

[@moc5661]

​@@Rampagefpss Intel smokes AMD on system latency

[@Rampagefpss]

@@moc5661 ?

[@moc5661]

@@Rampagefpss yes?

[@zGiGi]

why you have rebarr off on 7800x3d

[@puffyips]

I’ve heard it’s cause of warzone, better to have it off in game

[@K9PT]

Re-Bar OFF why?!

[@impuls60]

It sucks!

[@K9PT]

@@impuls60lol

[@ac130kz]

Battlefield 2042 though, drops to 90 fps on Redacted on my 7800x3d lol

[@JohnnyEMatos]

I get random drop son BF too. It happens sometimes on any map. I cap the frames at 140 and for a split second at a random moment of the match the GPU usage goes down and the lows hit 40. 7800X3D + 7900 XTX

[@ac130kz]

@@JohnnyEMatos I generally get 120-160-ish fps, just such a CPU heavy game

[@jaybee0507]

@@ac130kz Thats actually bad i guess. I play battlefields pretty much solely. Just quick tested Redacted on my 13900k, 170-200fps average and dipped down to 155-160 when lots of players. And thats with ddr4-3600! I didn't test 1% lows. I am actually considering 7800x3d to my second apartment, for battlefields also, but now i am not so sure?

[@ac130kz]

@@jaybee0507 idk, it's what I see in the game's built-in overlay, impossible to test properly now since they blocked riva tuner from injecting

[@ac130kz]

@@jaybee0507 maybe my 4060ti is the problem, but for some reason cpu frames value drops too

[@plamenapostolov6382]

7800x3d rulz !!!!!

[@ouki4925]

I would never choose a 7800X3D over a 14900k. 14900k is much faster product whereas 7800X3D is just a 1 trick pony. 7950X3D is a better comparison to 14900k.

[@puffyips]

🤡

[@luukherfst1209]

🤡. 7800X3D litterly faster than the I9-14900K in most games😂

[@puffyips]

@@luukherfst1209nonono if you use 8000mhz ram and most expensive cooling you can afford THEN the 14900k will only lose in the avgs BUT have higher 1%lows, at triple the power.. don’t mind that last part who cares about power when it has “better” performance right?

[@gamersftwonline]

14900k still better overall, like way better for multitasking

[@J.king87]

you must have a 14900k lol

[@gamersftwonline]

@@J.king87 yee lmao

[@puffyips]

Watches a gaming benchmark, “bUt mUltiTasKing”

[@gamersftwonline]

@@puffyips 14900k is better

[@lightward9487]

You use APO INTEL power 100% compite

[@nivea878]

220 watts from Intel? in gaming?? hoooow?

[@patrickfuchs7552]

first

[@Beefy-Tech]

I think Juan actually beat you to it by 30 seconds lmao.

[@TheAlex82]

why dont you talk about cpu usage? 14900k will outperform ryzen in future games, becouse the advantage that r7 7800x3d has today it wil last a hot minute.lets talk about this in 2 years, or a year and will see how 8 cores goes out the windows comparing to the lots of cores of tha i9, so the i9 its cheaper

[@puffyips]

Yeah that’s not how that works, games will hardly ever scale to use more cores the way you say, especially past 8cores. When those 8 cores are boosting 5ghz+ w v cache, zen 5 and zen 6 incoming to curb stomp intel.

[@puffyips]

Frequency and cache even on just 8 lil cores is beating your many core 14900k + in 2 years that 14900k will be degraded😂

[@akatosh9298]

75w 7800X3d lol

[@Eastontown]

200 watt @ 14900k..... 70 @7800...

[@SAVA47-00]

hinder ram for intel