15 (Dehler & Kent Hovind) Questions for Christians TV Show

In this episode, Bernie Dehler (former Christian, now atheist) has a discussion with Kent Hovind (Christian and Young Earth Creationist). They discuss these 5 topics; about 10 minutes for each topic: Is atheism/evolution a religion; is the gospel nonsense; does a supernatural soul exist; is Genesis literally true; are Catholics real Christians?
Feel free to leave a thoughtful comment. Comments that are rude, contain cussing, etc. will be deleted.
More program info:
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On Mon. 6-6-2016, Bernie Dehler had an videotaped discussion with Kent Hovind for a TV show in Beaverton Oregon called "Questions for Christians." The program has these segments:
1. Is atheism/evolution a religion? (7:02)
2. Is the gospel nonsense? (19:22)
3. Does a supernatural soul exist? (27:08)
4. Is Genesis literally true? (39:42)
5. Are Catholics REAL Christians? (50:30)
More info on the presenters:
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Bernie is the author of "Modern Science and Philosophy Destroy Christian Theology," which can be found here:
tinyurl.com/lml... . You can also find him on Twitter here: BernieDehler and on Facebook here: Bernie-Dehler-467276896621775 .
You can see some of the local Portland events where Bernie participates, here (Center for Philosophical Naturalism):
www.meetup.com/... .
Kent Hovind (Dr. Dino) is a creation science evangelist. He has a brand new book available:
"What On Earth Is About To Happen… For Heaven’s Sake" (details can be found here: tinyurl.com/zzk... ).
Kent Hovind's KZbin channel is here:
tinyurl.com/o46... .
This video is a softer version of a Kent Hovind debate. More interaction, less sermonizing.

[@chrisbay6672]

It makes so much sense that God created man, put him in a garden with the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, then told him not to eat from that tree. If man hadn't eaten from the tree how could he know good from evil?? If he couldn't know good from evil why would a loving god hold him responsible for his actions. That's like putting a 2 year old in a room with a snickers and a man that will tempt them to eat the candy and then telling them not to eat it. Then getting pissed off when they eat it. God created adam, evil, the serpent, the tree, and the whole situation and yet it's our fault. This is an absurd nonsensical fable.

[@spamm0145]

It's almost as ridiculous as everything came from nothing and mindless molecules without the ability to 'think' creating all of life for no reason or intent.

[@chrisbay6672]

@@spamm0145 regardless of your ignorance of science and attempt to add words like “mindless” to make that sound dumb. Yes, that is much more feasible than “my imaginary invisible sky daddy did it all with his magic god powers.” Not only is it more logical but it actually has a thing called evidence. I know it’s hard for Christian’s to understand, but that’s when you have facts that align with your views and help prove they are correct.

[@ncneeds]

You are brave and patient for talking to Kent. It tests my patience to listen to him. He is smart enough to know that stupid people will buy into his crap. He works hard to skew the evidence.

[@lealeandre1063]

" It tests my patience to listen to him". Why do you keep listening?

[@ncneeds]

As an agnostic, it is important to listen to other's "proof" of a deity. Kent does nothing to pursuade me away from atheism, but it is important to constantly challenge what I know, believe, and think. Kent is a real test of my patience, due to his intellegance. He is really good at warping reality to fit his narritive. He is really good at lying to convince others, who are less intelligent, that his skewed perspective is correct. Because of how good he is a creating a fictional reality, it is important for me to watch others debunk his outrageous claims. It is in my interest to watch people argue with him, even though he tests my patience with every word. Why do you keep listening?

[@1969JohnnyM]

Kent is such an obvious conman and fraud, I think he knows he's talking rubbish but like every good conman whose found the perfect rubes, people who give their money to him quickly and often and always without questions. Religion has a long history of attracting fraudsters, abusers, charlatans and hucksters as they have a multitude of gullible sheep to use and abuse, who never question anything their told and who are at their happiest when they are being fleeced. Its sad, it really is sad for those born into religion who are taught not to question and are sheltered from learning proper science.

[@GisherJohn24]

I'm a Christian and I like you Bernie. You're very respectful.

[@personacharles]

thanks to Bernie for being respectful and to Kent likewise.

[@ANT18621]

your both great people, like you both. Christian here but I like and respect Mr Dehler.

[@HisPowerMinistries]

Everyone in this world has all the evidence they will ever get, for the atheist it's never enough, for the humble truth seeker will eventually find themselves kneeling before the cross of The Lord Jesus Christ! AMEN

[@GeordieGames]

These 2 have created CLASSIC debates.

[@mengugreg]

I feel sorry for this Bernie guy... He just can't get it...

[@mengugreg]

Are you Bernie?

[@sirajaxl]

Bernie gets it. He's just being a nice person in his debates and interviews. What makes you think he doesn't understand what a deceitful charlatan Kent Hovind is?

[@mengugreg]

Sir Ajax Well, Kent is being just as nice and polite. Why do you say that?

[@sirajaxl]

+mengugreg Yes, you're correct, "doctor" Hovind was civil and polite. I hadn't read through some of the other replies, so I thought you we're feeling sorry for Bernie in that he just didn't get the fact that he was talking to someone who is never gonna look at evidence objectively. At the time I didn't get that you were suffering from the same delusion. Kind of ironic isn't it? Go in peace, serve the Lord. Tell your kids the earth is only 6000 years old, and the ancestors of every animal on earth disbursed from a mountaintop in the Middle East about 4500 years ago. It's your right as an American. Reality be damned.

[@mengugreg]

Sir Ajax Who told you I am american?

[@xdigitalmondx2]

I appreciate this gentleman having the guts to debate Kent.

[@BraydenCook-rf8nv]

Thank you mr hovind. I love you!

[@robertmitchell5863]

also it is hard to believe that Bernie was ever a Christian since he lacks even a cursory knowledge of Christianity

[@Alec_Cox]

In Bernie's defense, he was a catholic, which is a psuedochristian religion and based on heathenistic doctrines enveloped in its doctrine. Jesus said, Do not do as the HEATHEN DO. DO NOT BE RELIGIOUS.

[@ptuffgong8504]

@@Alec_Cox Yep. Every Christian is the correct Christian. We just sit back and laugh at you guys. Make up your damn minds. Hovind is a hack and a criminal. The propaganda he spreads is dangerous.

[@Alec_Cox]

@@ptuffgong8504 Unfortunately, your attacks are baseless you believe that a paramecium 2 billion years ago sprouted legs and started walking and then goes back into the ocean that was created some billion years ago and became a whale of course we laugh at your stupidity. As far as dr. Kent Hogan being a criminal that's an outright lie. He was bringing down the propaganda of your salacious science of evolution.

[@Alec_Cox]

@@ptuffgong8504 My uncle, dim the study on E coli for which he got his Doctorate in 1976 it was on the mutations of E coli they were found to be fallacious and overblown as far as any regenerative powers of E coli to become something other than E coli. Which is still a bacteria. His findings were true and are online at the University of Houston website under John Cox. The paper was published his doctor it was published and was all signed off in 1976. So you can take your millions and millions of years and do what you want with it because it's all false sorry to tell you In other words, your fake religion of evolution has bastardized science and created a new fallacious science Romans 1 15 through 25 you need to read that. Your religion of evolution just makes up stuff send out the propaganda as science when there is no true facts that back up anything evolutionary.

[@Alec_Cox]

@Timothy Mostad Lol You're talking to a PhD microbiologist. The bacteria is not really an animal. Bacteria is not what you think it is, the classification system is bull picky. Besides bacteria do jot evolve. Did they stop trying? Lol at your stupid ignorance and believing the lies of academia, which is not science. You're the outright liar here bud

[@bpdmf2798]

"You'd have to explain it to me simpler." The first time Kent has ever told the truth.

[@constantinovicente4991]

Awesome debate. Loved the professionalism of both especially the atheist. Most get very angry and he didn't. Much respect

[@StephenRahrig]

Holy cow 11:20 fantastic rebuttal for Bernie!!

[@ironcharioteer6660]

bernie is cool. really holds kent accountable. love it.kent is like a cat on hot tin roof.

[@vladislav43]

Stop hating Bernie guys. I love this guy. He has more patience than most Christians.

[@lizlopez5945]

Thank you for sharing this ! I absolutely believe that the almighty God created All things and the atheist on this channel needs prayer . One day we will be before the creator of the universe and we Will All give account for our lives , if there’s no God I will take my chances and serve him , then to die and find out that there is a God . Blessings.

[@lespaul5628]

Yep, Kent is right. "No one's ever seen a dog come from a non-dog" "Farmers count on the fact that cows give birth to calves" "When you plant corn you get corn". As Kent would say "well, duh". This is what evolution expects. He's been called on it point blank. Something to the effect of "who claims otherwise?" He steers away from the question, "well you believe a cow was something else millions of years ago don't you?" He changes the subject, does not dispute when he gets called on things, but they stay in his presentation the next time he debates. It's a tactic is what it is, to reel in his more ignorant followers. I'll say this for him. He's got balls.

[@TheLochs]

Bernie, you're a good man. Keep up the good work

[@ecosse1982]

Absolutely right, Mark M (below). I agree that Kent deserves to be back in jail after this discussion because it was an intellectual massacre by God's serveant on another poor (and clearly defenceless) Atheist!

[@paokanomike]

Kent owned this

[@lessplease]

Super computers cannot compare to complexity of the human brain. The mind holds consciousness. That in and of itself puts it beyond any technology we have CURRENTLY.

[@jonathanjosiah4733]

One power man has is the power to talk to God which is greater then the best cell phone man can make through technology ever.

[@timh2235]

Bernie makes an ad hominem at Kent at 6.05. Burnie doesn't understand Kent Hovind point, that Evolution is a religion, so he attacks him once more and insinuates that Kent doesn't know the definition Evolution. 9.40 Kent has to explain evolution to Burnie (which he shouldn't need to do if Burnie actually did some critical thinking about the subject). At 10.06, burnie says I quote "The theory of evolution you wouldn't expect it to be observable". Burnie believes in a non observable cause. Burnie has more faith in a theory that's non observable cause then believing in the living almighty omniscient God? He then gives us an analogy about finger nails growing and I quote "We know that they grow with logic." That's is exactly what's Kent is trying to convey. This is Philosophy, this is not science. That is why evolution is a religion. Kent is dominating this conversation. Burnie is a little child whose lost at Dinosaur Adventure Land and Kent is helping him find his way home. I haven't seen the full length of their conversation but after more then 10mins. I'm onto the next debate.

[@chimpanzeethat3802]

Evolution is not a religion. As it is defined by scientists, and is therefore the correct definition, evolution is the change of allele frequency in populations over generations. This change of allele frequency is directly observed.

[@col.nathanr.jessup5700]

Subbed because of fair and balanced debate kudos.

[@jlar1984]

God did not die. The man (body) died. Jesus was God in the flesh. He became what He never was without ceasing to be what He's always been.

[@tedgrant2]

I love magic. If only we could harness it's power we would all be happy.

[@Paul-nv5bw]

One day, you'll realise the irony of your comment. Hopefully.

[@spacedoohicky]

Kent Hovind is bizarre. It can be fun listening to his rhetoric though. All the twists, and turns he makes in speech which appear needlessly convoluted. He can make his own contradictions, and cognitive dissonance appear logical. He's quite the rhetorical magician.

[@royklopfenstein5278]

Such a organism had to be created.

[@spacedoohicky]

Roy Klopfenstein Best argument for creationism yet... if you're arguing for an insane incompetent creator.

[@davidb.slatton885]

I believe there are 3 books, that if a person were truly honest with themselves and would take the time to read, there would be no doubt in regards to which is correct in the ongoing Evolution/Creation debate.The books can be purchased used in great or in good condition online.The titles are #1. Man's Origin, Man's Destiny #2.The Creation of Life..a cybernetic approach to evolution #3.The Natural Sciences Know Nothing of Evolution.They're all written by the same author.The late A.E.Wilder-Smith.Although they can get rather academic at times( probably due to the fact that Dr. Wilder-Smith obtained 3 earned doctorates in his lifetime) for the most part, they're not only informative but they're enjoyable as well.

[@smartalecatheist1262]

20:42 One of the comments I made on Kent's channel is that Kent said "a just god has to punish ever single sin". But if becoming a born again Christian wipes away your past sins, it literally means that god is NOT punishing every single sin. It's a contradiction. 24:22 Kent claimed to be a High School Science teacher. However, he was not. Homeschooling your children does not make you a High School teacher. 39:28 Kent said that abortion is killing a life, since it's life that begins at conception. But this goes back to the identical twins/chimera scenario. If there's a life creation, and that life splits into two, which mass of cells had the original life, and which has the new life? And with the chimera scenario, there are two lives that merge into one. So does that mean there was a death of a life involved? 47:57 Technically, an artificially created life form has been made before.

[@gibroni99]

To your first point about punishing every single sin. God did punish every single sin. He did that with Jesus Christ's crucifixion. That simplifies it a bit, Jesus was beaten, scourged, and ultimately crucified to atone for our sins for all time. He, despite committing no crime, being completely innocent suffered horribly and died taking the punishment we deserved for sin. He stood in our place and suffered so that through him we can be redeemed back to God. His resurrection signifies that He truly is the son of God and that sin resulting eternal separation from God was removed, but the resurrection takes us away from your point. I'm sure what I've just written above begs several questions, but to simply answer your question without going into ALL the detail. Every single sin was punished through Jesus Christ's suffering and death. He was punished so that we don't have to be. That's how much we are loved by God, that he would send His son into the world to die for us. That in essence is how the contradiction you mention is avoided. God Bless.

[@icanfartloud]

where does it say Christians don't get some punishment? Christians are forgiving, that doesn't mean there won't be punishment. it just means not eternal punishment.

[@smartalecatheist1262]

Gibran Britt _God did punish every single sin. He did that with Jesus Christ's crucifixion. That simplifies it a bit, Jesus was beaten, scourged, and ultimately crucified to atone for our sins for all time._ But according to Christianity, Jesus had no sin to be punished. Jesus' sarcificing himself like he did would have no affect on sin, because he had no sin to punish. If you saw someone in court be found guilty of a crime and sent to jail for their crime, would you expect the said crime to be forgiven if an innocent man chose to take the guilty man's place in jail? No, because punishment doesn't work that way. Someone else taking your punishment does not teach YOU the intended lesson. _He, despite committing no crime, being completely innocent suffered horribly and died taking the punishment we deserved for sin. He stood in our place and suffered so that through him we can be redeemed back to God._ But it's because of the fact that he was sinless that makes that act pointless. The fact that he was sinless meant that not a single sin was punished. _His resurrection signifies that He truly is the son of God and that sin resulting eternal separation from God was removed_ First of all, there's no proof that anyone was resurrected. Second, assuming he was resurrected, his resurrection would have made the self sacrifice null and void. So even if his crucifixion did punish sin. if he was resurrected, then the sins went unpunished. And third, Jesus never fulfilled any of the prophecies of the old testament. In fact, there's plenty of evidence in the old testament that Jesus is NOT the messiah. And on that note, Christianities idea of a messiah is the polar opposite of what it meant in the old testament. _I'm sure what I've just written above begs several questions, but to simply answer your question without going into ALL the detail. Every single sin was punished through Jesus Christ's suffering and death._ That doesn't answer my question though. How does making an innocent, sinless man suffer punish sin? How does punishing someone who is without sin punish all sin? _He was punished so that we don't have to be._ Which is a way that would never pass in any form of legal system. _That's how much we are loved by God, that he would send His son into the world to die for us. That in essence is how the contradiction you mention is avoided. God Bless._ All it does is replace one contradiction with another. Why did he have to send his son to be sacrificed in the first place? If Yahweh is omnipotent, why doesn't he use that omnipotence to simply eliminate all sin without sacrificing his son? Because if you say he can't, than that's admitting that Yahweh is NOT omnipotent. However, if you say Yahweh IS omnipotent, that means he sent his son to die even though he could have fixed the problem without doing so. So in other words, either Yahweh is NOT omnipotent, or Yahweh is NOT a good god.

[@smartalecatheist1262]

Vernon Smithjr _where does it say Christians don't get some punishment? Christians are forgiving, that doesn't mean there won't be punishment. it just means not eternal punishment._ So in other words, two people could have committed the same sin. The one who's not Christian will burn in Hell for all eternity (regardless of how small the sin may have been), while the born again Christian would just get a slap on the wrist (regardless of how severe the sin may have been). And if you try to claim the punishment would be more than a just a slap on the wrist, take into account an eternity of punishment to compare with, then no matter how severe the Christian's punishment may be, it's infinitely less than the alternative.

[@jbooks888]

No one is sent to hell for their sins. They are sent to hell because they rejected Christ's atonement for their sin. God put the sin of mankind on Christ. Christ became sin for us. This is why when he was sacrificed, OUR sins were being dealt with. You say why doesn't God just eliminate all sins? This is a very stupid proposition. The concept that God is omnipotent does not mean that He can do things which do not make logical sense. He cannot break the laws of logic. If God 'eliminated' all sins, then he would no longer be a just God. He would be violating His holiness. This is not too hard to comprehend. Maybe you should not involve yourself in theological debates when you don't even grasp the most basic and fundamental aspects of Christian theology. The more you post, the more your ignorance is being exposed for all to see!

[@allanrandall52]

you were never born again in the first place

[@jesuschrististhelord9937]

A Light in the Dark born again

[@jasonwthompson5003]

God adds the Holy Spirit in you and your sons are forgiving. You are now a new creature.

[@robertbaty6336]

The exchange between Kent and Bernie regarding me starts about the 54:55 mark as shown on the time marked link below: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3bQaXZjetWriKMm55s Kent lies and misleads people regarding our long-running relationship and his cowardly refusal to meet me to discuss his false legal narrative. One of the places you can find my outstanding challenge to Kent and what are now 58 propositions to choose from can be found at: beta.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Maury_and_Baty/conversations/messages/34744 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[@pasainchina97]

Evolution is a religion and requires copious amounts of faith. A few examples are ''we have the best case scenario for the origins of the earth. We rely on evidence and that which is observable, but can not say anything with real certainty. Some atheists like to talk in terms of certainty, especially regarding morals ''whilst at the same time saying life has absolutely no purpose or meaning.

[@Imrightyourewrong1]

What does the origin of the earth have to do with evolution? What about the theory of evolution makes it a religion?

[@pasainchina97]

Evolution does not stand by itself, if no macro no micro...stop trying to split hairs ... Your foundation is known as sand !!

[@Imrightyourewrong1]

+The Berean the origin of the earth still doesn't have anything to do with it. Don't you know what the theory is?

[@pasainchina97]

a house has a foundation ! and evolutions foundation is ??

[@Imrightyourewrong1]

+The Berean do you or don't you know what the theory of evolution is? Sure doesn't seem like it. The foundation is the scientific method.

[@js5249js]

Not real interested in buying a book after listening to Mr. Dehler's confusion. WOW!

[@thatei.detailing_girl]

people left God beacause their prayer for their own personal pleasure have not beem answered

[@tedgrant2]

Calling the theory of evolution a "religion" is not an insult.

[@nf1629]

According to the Christian believe God made everything good in the beginning we had no sickness and no death. God gave man free choice. He did not want man to be like the Angels who he commands. He wanted man to have a personal relationship with Him. He wanted man to choose him out of his own will so He gave him free choice to choose for him. The tree of knowledge was a test, but not His ultimate plan. There was also the tree of everlasting life in the garden of Eden. When man chose to be disobedient and comit sin by eating of the tree of knowledge. God was forced to throw man out of the garden and away from his presence and prevent him from eating of the tree of eternal life. If man was able to do this he would have been able to live forever in his fallen state. This world was originally intended to be governed by man with God. By man's disobediance he gave those rights to the Devil. God has been working to restore that broken relationship from Adam and Eve. Many would say today that if I was in there place I would not have sinned. They walked in Gods presence and sinned we have the fallen nature in us so how can we do better. That's why we need some intervention to be as Adam was with God in the Garden. Sin separates us from God. Because we have the fallen nature we can not come in His presence. That is why we need someone that was sinless paying the debt we should have paid. Our life's on its own will never be worthy to come in Gods presence for he sees Adam in us. Christ came to pay our debt and restore our relationship with the Father He was sacrificed for our sins and came to set us free from the Adamic nature. If you accept Christ offering by accepting Jesus as your Lord, Master and Saviour. You can come into relationship with the Father because He sees His son Jesus in you and accept the sacrifice on our behalf. I hope it helps to understand that this present world we live in was never Gods intention Adam chose it by sinning. This is a fallen world will pass away. There is a new world being made. If this world was made in six days. And Jesus said I am going to prepare a place for you and He has been busy preparing that place for the last 2000 years. This is like living in a garbage can The new earth will be something we cant imagine. God is Just and He has proven His love by giving up His only son so we might live eternally with Him. The same as Adam walked with Him in the garden. But God is also Righteous and this supperseeds His love. Therefore He will judge every man that chose to stay in the Adamic nature and not choose His provision Jesus Christ. The end result for every person that does not choose Jesus has chosen seperation from God and has chosen eternal death. Hell was never Gods intention for man it was meant for the Devil and his fallen angels, but man is choosing it by not choosing for Jesus. It is not in the will of God that any should perish but that all should come to repentance and find there salvation in Jesus. I pray this will help those who are looking, but can't understand Gods purpose for man. Hope you choose for Jesus before it is to late. God bless! hope to see you some day in Gods presence!

[@cornerstaple8747]

Kent Hovind, "Look guys I covered this on part 4 of my seminar."

[@japhethkay2534]

The Bible says Husband and Wife become one, God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are 3 beings who are One. ' Jesus said if i dont go I cannot send the comforter', Jesus said, 'Father why has thou forsaken me'(he wasnt talking about himself) speaking of different beings However they are One.

[@gtcazusa]

@ 2:45 "We have particles from the Sun creating other particles" and after they blow up in a supernova creating planets" You illustrate the utter failure of your theories in the first explanatory sentence. Particles don't create anything. Especially other particles that create other things, like planets. The structure and systems present on this planet do not just make themselves "naturally". You will always have that huge gap at the very basis of your worldview... one that defies one of the most well known scientific observations. And it's this. ..that things break down, they don't get better. ESPECIALLY highly complex lifeforms and genetics. Time is your hero - with absolutely zero reasonable explanation how inanimate things MAKE inanimate ones. You guys are always personifying inanimate concepts. I hear it ALL the time. Evolution doesn't DO anything. Neither does time. You will say that I myself don't have an explanation but I do. Any being capable of creating time/space/matter simultaneously MUST be outside of our concept of time. Can I perfectly tell you this beings character? No, I cannot. But I can say that NATURALLY these things do not happen. Why can't you realize that every species' genome on this planet is diversifying/degrading over known history? Which is only about 5000 years old, I might add. Any positive claims to the contrary are completely unfounded - fantasy. Yes, it's a fantasy, deep time and slow progression to delicate complexity. One that's also the most unlikely. It's just not what we observe.

[@SecHummer]

RE: "Particles don't create anything. Especially other particles that create other things, like planets. The structure and systems present on this planet do not just make themselves "naturally". " Watch this to learn more about cosmological evolution: "Stanford researchers help to explain how stars are born, cosmic structures evolve" news.stanford.edu/2016/07/06/stanford-researchers-help-explain-stars-born-cosmic-structures-evolve/

[@gtcazusa]

+SecHummer Your article has the same problem. "These motions (see video here) could explain why galaxy clusters form far fewer stars than expected - a puzzling property that affects the way cosmic structures evolve." See that word? "Could"? Fanciful speculation. A lot of big words, basically saying. ..oh look. We see a bunch of hot gas and swirling around. My point stands. .. Creation is an act that requires a creator. You can't personify inanimate material. You might accuse me of therefore not being interested in the mechanics of the universe. It would be nonsense. It's very interesting. ..but no one has ever seen lifeless matter actually create anything at all, even on Earth. Sorry.

[@gtcazusa]

+SecHummer Please, explain to me the prevalent theory of how ice and dirt accretion, from the power of gamma radiation somehow forms a highly complex system and atmosphere such as this Earth? Perfectly balanced in a multitude of factors to support an infinitely more complex ecosystem? I'm telling you, it's always going to be gueeswork. Now I don't claim to understand it..but I can positively say that what we observe is it's destruction over time, not it's gaining complexity. What we observe goes against natural law in a very large way... more than enough to render pure naturalism, in a word, silly.

[@sirajaxl]

+Guy C Because it's supposedly not gaining in complexity, this renders natural law silly? What the hell have you been reading and/or what moron have you been listening to? Let's start with your last question. You ask for the prevalent theory of how ice and dirt accretion combined with gamma radiation can form a highly complex systems such as earth. Well, perhaps you remember a little round of experiments with gamma radiation performed by one Dr. Robert Bruce Banner? Yes? Good. Then perhaps you also remember what happened when he accidentally exposed himself to over 1 billion times what was thought to be the lethal human dose of said radiation? Did this reduce his complexity? Did this cause him to deteriorate and run down? Hell no it didn't. The genetic mutations from the radiation, combined with adrenaline when he feels stress or pain results in a transformation of mass complexity. Next question?

[@gtcazusa]

I don't know what to make of the Incredible Hulk thing - But THIS is not what I said: "Because it's supposedly not gaining in complexity, this renders natural law silly?" I said PURE NATURALISM is silly - meaning that natural law explains the existence of everything we see. That is silly.

[@osoeh8]

RIP Bernie Dehler

[@MegaSage007]

Yes, Bernie. God is separate but one. Father, son, and holy ghost. His Son died bodily on the cross. He went down into hell to preach to all of the lost souls who were incarcerated. You can't kill God the father, the Son, or the holy ghost. If God inhabits a body you can kill the body but not the spirit. You can set three glasses of water on a table and pour them into a larger container and the water is one. So it is with the Trinity.

[@japhethkay2534]

Berbie, I love and respect you. I'm Christian. I love your approach, your approach of your point of view doesnt doesnt offend but.... your actually following the bible in terms of whats right and wrong without realizing it. Kent is using the computer as something to help with comparison... What else can he use to compare the brain or DNA to? We only use 10 to 12 % of our brains in our entire lives, is a computer more better than our brain... The brain has created the computer? Mmmm

[@paigehawkins1945]

Jesus church is a small church (few and many), and this is the promise we have while here on earth during this life. Persecution

[@Zeffarian]

I wonder what Hovind would say about ring species? i.e. animals in which animal A and animal B can breed and animal B and animal C can breed, but animal A is unable to breed with animal C. How does "kinds" fit with that???

[@tedgrant2]

Kent believes the Bible, so he says, even though it makes no sense. This he clearly admits.

[@roberthillsjr.3729]

How can Fish, cold blooded turn into, warm blooded? And that is just the first obstacle.

[@kieranodonnell5271]

I don't get all this atheism is logical thinking. Being a Christian makes you more logical, clearly. You need more faith in believing something came from nothing, than something came from a designer. Believing in God is not about believing in something you don't see, it is about believing in something that wants what's best for you and those around you

[@icanfartloud]

I wonder If the atheist sees the irony in his own t_shirt and how it's logically inconsistent with atheist's worldview? it ends with a robot..i.e. a complex intelligently created combination of molecules.....sound familiar?

[@aquacandela3705]

IcanFartLOUD 1 LAWL!

[@bpdmf2798]

IcanFartLOUD 1 I'm glad that religion still doesn't teach understanding jokes.

[@adsdavidson]

I don't remember Bernie saying 1 thing to help his case

[@TheJCFan]

Honest scientists: "we believe that", "its possible that", "now we're leaning more towards", "as far as we can tell", "we used to think that", "we were wrong when we said that" Atheist scientists: "we know for sure that", "the only possibility is that", "there's no other explanation except that", "we never claimed that" , "science has never been wrong, we've just fined tuned" People who trust their soul to science are rolling the dice. If your argument is that there no physical evidence for God, maybe you just aren't using the right "tool" to discover him. There wasn't any scientific evidence of microorganisms until the mid 1600s. That doesn't mean they weren't around for the past 6000 years or billions of years. The writings contained in the Bible have been warning us about things that we cannot see for 3500 years: things that man, using science, didn't discover until hundreds or thousands of years later. I'm not placing my faith in men who change their minds constantly. Who in their right mind would claim that God doesn't exist anywhere in the Universe when we haven't even explored the depths of our own oceans yet?

[@boglerun8444]

Why would you insist that something exists without any evidence....makes no sense! god is man made, the notion has evolved from pagan beliefs of pre-history man....it's so obvious!

[@TheJCFan]

@@boglerun8444 Think of the wind. You can't physically see it, but you can feel its effects on you and you can see its effects on the things that it blows on. God does affect people that he touches. There are thousands upon thousands of eyewitness testimonies of how people's lives have been changed when they called on Jesus Christ. And the beautiful thing is that even if you're skeptical you can still call on him to prove himself to you and he will. It's all a matter of whether you are earnestly seeking the truth or just seeking to disprove Christianity because you don't like something that the God of the Bible stands for or stands against. It's sad but I find the most people who stand against God have gross misconceptions about something in the Bible because they read it online or in some atheist publication instead of reading the scriptures for themselves. As one who was atheist at one time myself, I can assure you that there is a lot of garbage being spread about the Bible that is absolutely not true. It helps to know history when you are reading the Bible. Otherwise, one might draw the faulty conclusion, for example, that biblical slavery is the same as slavery during the transatlantic slave trade in the 1500s, which is absolutely not true at all.

[@sarahlee4718]

Christians: Atheists: hey Christians, Can you please talk to me about the things I don't believe in, a book I think is completely false, and ideas i think are completely ludicrous...... Why do you want to know so much about the very thing you claim is not true yet you seek answers from Christians anyway lol.

[@dougperry5890]

This host is either too nice or not educated enough in the standard apologetics. His points are so easily refuted.

[@SecHummer]

Doug Perry , Out of the two choices, I prefer that "too nice" one.

[@dougperry5890]

There is nice, and there is not correcting/challenging lies

[@SecHummer]

Doug Perry , And there are some people critical no matter what you do.

[@dougperry5890]

Is the point if these videos to allow Hovind a platform, or to refute his claims? If the former, you are a very bad atheist. If the latter, you are doing a very bad job. I understand that you have to be nice to attract guests. But the host misses so many chances to destroy his lies. But then calls him out on his degree? I would be much more interested in proof of his teaching record/credentials that attacking his farcical degree.

[@SecHummer]

Doug Perry , Apparently we have different tactics. I think it was a smart idea to call him out on his bogus degrees since he was claiming the moral high ground (since he's a Christian that has superior morals compared to an atheist), but he had obvious moral weakness. He's basically willing to lie to misrepresent his credentials, and it takes a lot of something (bad) to claim four bogus PhD's, not just one! This dishonest behavior is similar to the type of thinking that landed him in jail for almost 10 years.

[@Kalle0490]

The Bible sais that the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23). To save humans from eternal death, the Son of God, Jesus who did no sin, took the penalty for our sin on him. He died because of our sins and he rose up from the grave bacause he himself had never sinned. So he makes his rightiosness accountable to us as if we never sinned. Thats why we can have eternal life. If Christ would not have offered himself to be punished for the sin of the humans, Adam and Eve would have had to die immedeatly and the human race would be whiped out. but Jesus loved his creations so he would rather die than to live for all eternity without the humas.

[@allanrobis777]

atheist position is purely speculation,..you can never push out the "elephant in the room" dilemma....that is 'morality'.

[@deanlowdon8381]

+Allan Robis The only people that take their morals solely from their religion are dangerous religious fanatics.

[@bpdmf2798]

Allan Robis No. Just no. Morality is the product of beings living together and recognizing what is best for everybody is best for self. I don't kill you and you don't kill me. Even dogs know when they do wrong because they are a social species. That's not even pointing out psycho/sociopaths who have no sense of right and wrong. Why did god create them? Why does the Wholly Babble say he gave everybody morality etched in their heart or whatever it says, but we see people in the world who don't have that? That's just one small hole in that "holy" text. Also, why is your religion right? Why not be a follower of Zeus or be a Jew? Zeus at least throws lightning, he would kick Jesus's ass in a heartbeat and if your were Jewish you could be a lawyer or work in Hollywood or something. Hahaha.

[@kieranodonnell5271]

@@bpdmf2798 do you see that as fact or something you choose to believe?

[@chimpanzeethat3802]

Morality doesn't come from religion. It precedes it. We evolved to be able to understand the importance of morality and ethics. That's how we thrived as a species for hundreds of thousands of years before religion was invented.

[@kieranodonnell5271]

@@chimpanzeethat3802 who made god up then?

[@DennisNowland]

have you noticed every time Hovind is in a 1:1 debate it is always against an inarticulate athiest​.

[@ironcharioteer6660]

Hey Kent. microphone on bottom of phone. duh!

[@fjccommish]

Evolutionist: "According to evolution, one species does not turn into another. According to evolution, fish became dogs." What!? We can't see our fingernails grow? I see them grow. One day they're longer than the last day. They don't grow too slow.

[@denispasa7413]

Awnser to question #2: in order for someone's sins to be forgiven blood must be sacrificed. Hebrew 9:22 That's the order of God the old trestement people brought animals. But it did not have a spirit so it didn't hold value for a long time only for the person and the sin he committed. GOD with his mighty love and mercy sent his only SON and he poured his blood on the alter for our dirty sins! And his blood is not lamb and goat but an almighty GOD which holds value forever! And only through the blood our sins are washed away! That's why he needed to die for our sins to be washed away!

[@gemguy6812]

Kent! what are you doing ! these were softballs ready to smack out of the park, if you know God and speak to Him everyday you don't need to know everything, but these were basic.

[@SecHummer]

Gem Guy , He couldn't answer because when you think deeply about the questions, all the answers are nonsense. They have no basis in reality.

[@josiahhorne2285]

Hovind destroys the argument. Dehler sighs defeatedly and tries again.

[@jayb-clay2724]

15 mins in and Kent is spanking Bernie... go ahead Kent

[@atheistmecca]

You must be watching a different show. Kent belongs back in prison.

[@wispa1a]

it's not a debate it's an interview. "questions for christians"

[@gratefulapostate3123]

Kent has spent his entire worthless life inventing, recycling, and polishing lies. Even his credentials are a lie. Kent never taught science, and he bought his Phd from diploma mill run out of a trailer. He wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the ass..

[@rtek5]

Kent is spanking Bernie? His tired old rhetoric that "no one's seen a dog come from a non-dog" is challenged by the fact that evolution does not expect to see that and his answer is more rhetoric. No, he never stammers and seems to come up with answer for anything but that's because he is sharp, not right.

[@gratefulapostate3123]

*****​​​​​​​​​​​ I find it hilarious how you creatards spew the most ridiculous, pseudo-scientific bullshit as if it was absolute fact. It doesn't even matter that the entire body of scientific research proves that you are talking out your ass. Macro evolution is just micro evolution extrapolated over a much longer period of time. There is no imaginary barrier that stops creatures from evolving, and given enough time a creature can, and will evolve into a far different creature from it's original ancestor. "There isn't a shed of evidence that we descended from apes". First of all moron, we didn't descend from apes, we are apes. And all current ape species descended from a common ape - like creature. Secondly, there is enough evidence that proves this is true, to fill a library. Evidence like the fossil record, taxonomy, comparative anatomy, geobiology, and genetics, to name just a few of the many sciences that confirm our common ancestry. "Darwin wasn't a scientist and he had demons, and it was called the Cambrian explosion". There is so much wrong with this statement that it's hard to know where to start. First the theory of evolution has progressed far passed anything that Darwin ever dreamed of. Today T.O.E. has been crossed confirmed by over 20 scientific disciplines and tens of thousands of scientific research studies. Secondly, Darwin studied medicine at Edinburgh University. He was as much a scientist as anyone else, at that time in is field, which later became modern biology. Thirdly, the discovery of the Cambrian explosion came long after Darwin had died, so I doubt it demonized him. The rest of your diatribe is just too stupid to even bother to address. Don't any of you creatards possess any embarrassment threshold, at all? These old creationist stories have been debunked for over 50 years. Try googling TalkOrigins.com if your interested in any real science, and not just parroting creationist lie factory nonsense. You creatards proudly display your complete ignorance of science, as if it was a badge of honour. Finally, your hero Kent Hovind got his PHD in Christian Education ( not science ), from an unaccredited diploma mill called Patriot Bible University that a guy ran out of a double wide trailer. His pathetic four page thesis (that reads like a nine year old wrote it ), is available for anyone to read on google. There is no record of any accredited school ever employing Kent as a science teacher anywhere in the U.S. Kent is a fraud and an ex-con for tax evasion, and ripping off his own employees. Only an uneducated creatard can listen to the utter nonsense that Hovind spews and believe that he's got it all figured out, and 150 years of the brightest scientific minds working together, have it all wrong. Frankly you creatards have become the laughing stock of the 21st century.  origins.com

[@silaswhite3666]

14:30 priceless!!!😁

[@jetsteeltherealdeal7872]

Kent by a landslide...I like this kind of debate,both parties respectable of each other

[@jeffraborg7753]

Kent is a crook

[@parsivalshorse]

Macro evolution actually refers to variations between closely related species. Not a 'change in kind'. It's amazing Kent doesn't know that.

[@bpdmf2798]

parsivalshorse Her knows it, but it doesn't fit in with his snake oil.

[@Bookworm-ye9qi]

Kult Hovind is a strange guy, with strange followers. He mixes bizarre conspiracy theories with his creation teaching. NWO, loch Ness monster, anti government rants, etc. And his refusal to accept correction when he's been proven wrong by other Christians shows a sign of a very childlike stubbornness. Oh, and by the way, 58 counts of fraud.

[@thomascurtis9630]

i like both kents approach and his sons and why havnt you checked out your own sons material kent? god bless

[@jimbelle3087]

After listening 33 minutes into this program it's very clear to me this atheist has no idea what he's talking about he's not even sure of himself he's far-reaching he's reaching out for something he doesn't have it's sad he's delusions he's been deceived

[@Hoo88846]

Supernatural phenomena are real. Check out my channel's playlists "near death experiences", "supernatural phenomena", "former Muslims' testimonies of seeing Jesus in their vision", as well as check out Sid Roth's channel "It's Supernatural"

[@jeffboice4790]

The key words here are "near death" You do realize that you can induce different states in the brain just by manipulating the tissue in the right area? When you come back to life after electrical activity has ceased in your brain than I'll be impressed. Assertions and arbitrary testimonials are simply not evidence.

[@Hoo88846]

Jeff Boice Check out the playlist of 'near death experience' on my channel and see for yourself how people who have died for several days, such as a buddhist monk in Myanmar, came back to life and told people who they saw. This famous buddhist monk who never had any exposure to Christianity became a Christian. Also check out Dr. Eben Alexander III's near death experience. He is a neurosurgeon himself and never thought he would see Heaven in his near death experience after he contracted a deadly meningitis which shut down his brain.

[@kieranodonnell5271]

What is the gospel? The gospel is God gave himself for the punishment of sin. If jesus was not God, then who was he?. If god had to use jesus to appease a angry god and take his anger out on jesus that's not good news, if god the father is like that, then that is not good news at all. That's child sacrifice and that's not good news and that is not the gospel. Just to be even more clear if jesus stayed in heaven and god came down as jesus in spirit, the gospel would of played out exactly the same way because jesus was god and god was manifested in jesus.

[@dougperry5890]

Kent doesn't believe in evolution, except for the super evolution required for the "kind" theory to work. So 2 cat "kind" got off the ark. And in less than a years, we have tiger, lion, panther, cheetah, house cats, etc. But evolution doesn't happen. Biggest flaw I have ever seen in an argument.

[@dougperry5890]

Let me elaborate. These are distinct species. They can not interbreed. They could not have come from the same "kind". So evolution must have happened.

[@SecHummer]

Doug Perry , Yes, your point is he says he doesn't believe in evolution, but he believes in "super-evolution."

[@Renfield37]

a " super computer " had to have someone make it to do what it does.. so the persson who made it is smarter than it is.. deh

[@chrisbrackney3801]

At 56:23, when Bernie mentions the Hovind boy - Kent puts his phone up to the camera, in an attempt to DOX the phone number Bernie is calling from.

[@manamaori3510]

FAITH....It's obvious this Atheist didn't at any time during his Christian walk have faith....Like the apostle Paul said "I marvel at how soon he has turned away from God who lead him into the hands of Christ.....What a shame

[@volunteerreviews9083]

At 14:36 bernie knows he is screwed already in this debate

[@jonathanjosiah4733]

Really simple huh? Then why Bernie did you say it's obvious, do less harm and more flourishing but you failed miserably by admitting you don't even know what hurt or flourishing is and if you do why are you so arrogant to claim you know better because you sound bored when you say it. Is that why? Because you have questions? I will worship what I know and you worship what you don't know.

[@wispa1a]

Bernie, Will you be repeating this and getting Hovind on again? Sure you could fill a list with Hovind fallacies and for the Ad hominem attack, it's an interview Q/A why does he get so offended by this no other qualified person would be bothered by this. They would be happy to give these details (showing interest) When professionals run debates they normally give background "profiles" Like the Ham/Nye debate and you're own.

[@razzyragusi1658]

Bait bait bait... No bite. Bait bait bait... No bite. This host should have been better prepared!

[@xrateduser]

Why is this guy defending science when he knows NOTHING about science... You are damaging the message. Please, stop.

[@zakinonly8swifechristine664]

It seems the atheist has things they want to do as a lifestyle and any Higher Power especially the True God offends that , and they fight to the end for their way. I know the bad feeling is because it's bad , change don't deny. From an overcomer in CHRIST

[@knowbody4903]

Kent Hovind... The king of car analogy ... Aka .. the king of equating apples and oranges

[@checco925]

When you say the computer is more complex than the human being that made it, it'slike you are saying that a wheel is more complicated than man because it can go faster than a running man, if pushed.

[@checco925]

or that a coffee machine is more complex than a car because the car can't make a coffee for you.

[@SecHummer]

Exactly, comparing apples and oranges. Even a PC can make millions or billions of calculations in a few hours, that is impossible for a human to do in a lifetime. And the computer has perfect answers while the human doesn't. In some ways computers are more complex than humans, in other ways not. The human is not the best at everything. Eagles can beat humans at self-powered flight, and dolphins can out-swim self-powered humans. Tigers and bears could win against humans in a fight (without weapons). We just have the best, smartest, brain of all creatures. But AI (artificial intelligence) will soon change all that.

[@checco925]

When you compare a human and a wheel you can clearly see that the human is much more complicated. One cell is more complicated than the space shuttle even if it can't go in outer space. How do you define the word complex? How do you define evolution? Why are we calling human beings more evolved than everything else? IA will never exist because it assumes that it will have free will and it won't. IT will just be as a rock that flows in a river. And if this IA would ever kill humanity it would just be as if someone caused an avalanche that killed him.

[@paigehawkins1945]

This atheist is ignorant in most all things known and unknown. He must humble himself with much heart. He is biblically illiterate. Why do these people try to act as if they know the word or doubt the word without reading the word (diligently) and open their mouth? Don’t answer the fool lest you become a bigger fool

[@paigehawkins1945]

Yes, Father will send a strong delusion so that you will believe a lie (as it’s written) and the fool says there is no Elohim most high. Religion is a product of man. YHWH is a reality. This every soul will see. Every knee will bow and confess that Yahoshua is Lord. Fact. It’s impossible to please or even have a relationship with him if you do not believe. No signs shall be given. You have Moses and the prophets. If you do not believe them, then you will not believe a sign or miracle. That’s how powerful and very much alive the written word of God most high is.

[@paigehawkins1945]

There’s your problem. You started off in a false representation of Christianity

[@Liberty-Freedom-Outdoors]

Sorry ma. But Catholics is not being a Christian at all your lost that’s your problem !

[@GeordieGames]

If you were deluded you'd have a mental illness, therefore everything you say is done so because of the mental illness(it doesn't go away). Say hi to my cousin Alison in Heaven!

[@woohoo273]

This guy Bernie is not very bright. I guess that is why Kent debates him.

[@asphaulthauler6738]

Talking about DNA..why do black people all have same color eyes and Hair..where did the first black person come from..

[@fullyshimmer]

I think God as Jesus purposely became a man to see what it's like to have fresh, it's tempting & suffering. That's why Jesus was stressing about being crusified maybe Jesus knows the end results of everything but it's still painful to endure being crusified

[@fullyshimmer]

*flesh

[@SecHummer]

God wanted to know what it felt like to have flesh??? Isn't your God supposed to be all-knowing?

[@fullyshimmer]

Ur right! I meant to say God wanted to be an example to all ppl, by becoming a person who deals with temptation (have flesh not just a spirit) just like us and still obey Gods words.

[@JNW89]

Well +SecHummer, God was not tempted by the everyday sin of the world before He became flesh. Satan personally tempted Jesus, he couldn't have done that unless God was a man. Obviously, when God created everything, He wasn't subjected to the things that we are, like sin or choosing right or wrong, God could not sin, until He became a man, then He was subjected to what we are.

[@soundmman1516]

WOW!! Poor Little Jailbird Kent needs to be kept FAR away from Children!!

[@BrianH7]

Poor Bernie

[@Renfield37]

God dont belive in atheists.. but he said HE thinks the atheists ideas make more sense to the world today.. well yah..worth out God you can live anyway they want to because they dont want God telling them how to live.. thats why to him it makes sense.. thats a stupid philosophy to have... but that is the root of it... its not why he said he left but this is the real reason... but hopefully he will come back to Jesus.. thats the important thing

[@jerlinvinso246]

Why are there animals that have not evolved for up to 700 million years. The jellyfish is one example.

[@jeffraborg7753]

Holy crap. You don't understand evolution at all. Take some classes. Don't be afraid.

[@jlar1984]

Wow I can't continue listening to this atheist. Very weak arguments. Stop wasting your time with people like this Hovind.

[@Alpha1BDaReaLiSeD]

31:10 you can see the guy start to question himself.......theres so many flaws in your logic dehler

[@fjccommish]

He has the delusion - he studied his way to ignoring God.

[@venisemenyuk4093]

Bernie come back home

[@thenightlifenj1]

Did kent just say "in my unbiased opinion" lmaooooo. Hes the epitome of bias

[@Lastneuron66]

You're coughing into the microphone again Kent...

[@SecHummer]

Nicholis Tyminski , Does his coughing affect the truth of what he was saying?

[@Lastneuron66]

SecHummer, it doesn't, but he kept telling king crocoduck that he was breathing into the mic when they debated

[@SecHummer]

Nicholis Tyminski , I know what you are referring to now, as I just happened to watch that debate earlier today.

[@bpdmf2798]

Nicholis Tyminski Also, when you listen to that debate notice how you can't hear any breathing or coughing and it's just Kent being frustrated that he is taking too somebody prepared for his nonsense and doesn't get gished by his gallop.