15 Legendary Gameplay Mechanics NOBODY ELSE CAN USE

[@spideyplays6969]

I love how WB decides to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with the freeflow and nemesis systems.

[@nikhilmeena7372]

cries internally :')

[@Hugh_Jannis]

It's a practice called "Patent Hoarding" basically keeping as many patents as possible for the sole purpose of keeping competitors from exploring new ideas and concepts

[@zachtwilightwindwaker596]

What is the freeflow mechanic?

[@blitzkreiger3395]

It's the combat system that Warner Brothers used in the batman Arkham games and shadows of Mordor series​@@zachtwilightwindwaker596

[@claytalian9091]

The Batman Arkham combat ​@@zachtwilightwindwaker596

[@Desco9111]

The concept of "owning" mechanics or genres is killing creativity. Most of these you named already existed in other prior games, so these developers are basically saying "I'm copying this thing, but I will sue you for copying from me." It's bullshit, and it's affecting many industries like music where people are getting sued for similar compositions that likely never even heard the source. Sure the lawsuit may not succeed, but independent/small artists and developers don't have the resources to fight against big corporations that don't care about creativity, only isolating their profits.

[@ancy1205]

Worse, even if you are the one who invent it, if you don't have the fund to apply and hold for the patient, those who do will and sue you instead.

[@pogicraft]

Meh... You can make the opposite argument too. You don't want to have 100 clones.... Say 20 pokemon game cash grabs rather than something unique. Besides... Patents expire eventually

[@ancy1205]

@@pogicraft The problem is that I want those clone. That's the boring but necessary part of evolution. 100 clone each differ just a tiny bit, and there maybe one of them break through with something useful or new.

[@jlindsa]

​@@pogicraft It may be possible to extend a patent but sure one day, eventually it will expire

[@xxxBloodforBloodxxx]

lmao .. its only ''killing creativity'' cause people cant come up with their own ideas .. you sound like a spoiled little baby cause the kid next door wouldn't let you play with his toys

[@double1777]

EA’s ping patent being free for literally everyone AND also essentially a guide is like the one good thing I’ve heard of them doing

[@martinde-serres8724]

That ping system exists LONG before EA patented it, so they basically did something stupid for once Pretty much every FPS games out there have that system, so EA just wasted their time patenting something they haven't created themselves to begin with

[@borowczak4647]

It's probably because they are not the first to implement system like that and they know it could cause problems for them Portal 2 from 2011 had ping system for co-op mode to make it easier for players to communicate

[@tobiasschaffler1498]

​@@martinde-serres8724But how did they get a patent on something they didn't invent? Usually patents are only give out if it's something new.

[@eliemitri7685]

I thought the same thing. EA something good! No, something must be wrong. Then, I had a scenario in my head where someone at EA initially made the patent to block other publishers from using the mechanic. But their lawyers told them they couldn't. Seeing they already wasted time making it, they thought that they might as well use it to uplift their image.

[@jazzyjswift]

@@tobiasschaffler1498 patents are given out to the first person to file a patent on it. Since nobody ever filed a patent on the ping system, EA did it. Now nobody else can snatch up the patent and use it to sue EA.

[@Roschach96]

00:29 Number 15 - Nemesis System (Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor) 02:26 Number 14 - Pokéball (Pokémon franchise) 04:50 Number 13 - Dual Reality (The Medium) 06:37 Number 12 - Ping System (Apex Legends) 08:54 Number 11 - Ultrahand (The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom) 11:32 Number 10 - Loading Screen Minigame Patent (Ridge Racer series) 12:58 Number 9 - "Ghost Form" (Super Mario Bros. Wonder) 14:07 Number 8 - Last Known Positon & Mark and Execute (Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction) 16:04 Number 7 - Active Time Battle (Final Fantasy IV) 18:11 Number 6 - Corkscrew Graphics (Sonic The Hedgedog franchise) 19:18 Number 5 - Right Stick Targeting (The Mark of Kri) 20:33 Number 4 - The Dialogue Wheel (Mass Effect series) 22:00 Number 3 - Sanity Level System (Eternal Darkness) 22:55 Number 2 - Giant Pointer (Crazy Taxi) 24:29 Number 1 - Rolling up junk in a giant ball (Katamari Damacy)

[@guitarlesson666]

You're one of the MVP's 😎

[@ezioauditoredafirenze5453]

Thank you 👍

[@ayushchoubey635]

Thanks

[@alexanderh.6252]

Aspiring German/European patent lawyer here: 1. Note how most of the patents are merely active or enforced in the US (as can be seen by the country code "US" infront of the repsective patent number)? This is because in other countries you are unable to patent concepts relating to playing games. For those interested see for example the European Patent Convention Article 52 (2) c) which specifically excludes it. At least in most of the countries, patents can only be granted to devices or methods resulting in a technical effect, whereas mental processes, such as mathematic formulas as such, are not patentable. 2. Note that some "patents" referred to in the video are not granted patents but patent applications (such as the Sonic Corckscrew). That is a common misunderstanding, so no blame on the creators of the video;) It was very enjoyable and interesting to see. To clarify a bit, everyone can apply for a patent but there are several criteria that have to be met before you are granted a patent. For those interested you can identificate whether a patent is granted based on the letter following the patent number. "A" indicates merely an application, whereas "B" refers to a granted patent (also true for non-US patent/appliactions). 3. As was already stated by others here: Just because you are granted a patent does not necessarily mean you can also enforce it. Actually it is quite common that if you try to enforce your patent on a competitor, they respond with a nullitiy lawsuit against said patent. This may cause the patent to be withdrawn in its entirety or to be limited. 4. Every patent proprietor is free to allow others to use their patents. This may be for free (such as EA apparently does with the Ping system) or you could license the use. 5. To respond to some comments condemning patents in general: Patents are not necessarily bad. In fact, many inventions only occurred because some people wanted to circumvent existing patents thereby creating even better devices, methods, etc. So patents actually (should) fuel inventions. Hope this shed some light on patents:) Again: a very cool video.

[@7ens3nButt0n]

gute erklärung

[@erMKSA]

Nice I like your 5th point, that is a very good observation.

[@votch2798]

patents and copyright are bad and actively stifle progress and creativity. source: logic 😂

[@scotthuffman3462]

Point number 5 only works in a pie eyed world where lawyers aren't parasitic leeches. Why not be a doctor, or a cop, or someone that actually helps people rather than fuels the legal system?

[@DoomsdayMayBeOkay]

Locking gameplay mechanics is never cool, taking inspiration and feeding of each others work should be always part of the creative process, video games have come a long way thanks to that!

[@gameranxTV]

Great point!

[@ipdfmd1632]

@@gameranxTV Guys you should probably edit an article on your site about the whole CDPR CEO because there is a lot of proof posted by CDPR contradicting the CEO claims

[@FoxxSiltman]

The mark and execute mechanic also made an appearance in hitman absolution

[@kevinpalacios1119]

@@gameranxTV As ​ @ipdfmd1632 above stated, that article on your site needs to be changed. Calling your fellow content creators fakes because you can't take some company man's words at face value, is not a great idea, specially when the proof is literally plastered all over CDPR's site. Make great games and we'll support them, but we don't appreciate being lied to.

[@Mont3000]

I didn't know this was a thing until now. Though I'm not completely surprised. Learn something new everyday. They lucky I wasn't on that approval board, I would had rejected %95 of them.

[@RobK32]

A mob game with the nemesis system would be unbelievable

[@davidwilmot9895]

Never thought if the application to an organized crime game but it kinda makes perfect sense!

[@marcuswalters8093]

Oooooooh

[@pancake-px1be]

I'll never forgive WB for locking the nemesis system so many games could have a pretty cool versions of the system with there own twists and turns but no WB Greed blocks all fun

[@SomeOne-hc3bd]

Let's be honest here, no other developer will manage to do a proper nemesis system even if the patent wasn't there. Look at Assassin's Creed Odyssey with it's mercenaries, nowhere close to Shadow of War. And turning the nemesis system into another souls-like where every second game tries to half-assed copy the original is not good.

[@pancake-px1be]

@@SomeOne-hc3bd yea not wrong there unfortunately just sucks no one else even gets to attempt till 2036

[@TheJoker-gg8hc]

@pancake-px1be a billion people already expressed your sentiment like 10 years ago. Get out of here, poser.

[@pancake-px1be]

@@TheJoker-gg8hc lol mad at the air 😂

[@prezlamen7906]

Patents are crime against hummanity. If it were up to me all of these garbage that did that would get lifetime in jail.

[@ChengTeoh]

I for one would love to see the nemesis system used in a Batman or Wolverine game.

[@StariMojE]

WB patents nemsis system and does absolutely nothing with it ever since.

[@TheRealUcanUwill]

Game mechanic patents is just shitty behavior. They do not patent that shit so they could use it, they could either way, they only do it so they would get cash from anyone else who could use it, just like SEGA did with crazy taxi arrow. Of course it also ensures competitors have harder time making better games, it is just shitty all around.

[@warmonger165]

The Wonder Woman videogame that's in the works right now is rumored to have the nemesis system

[@lunarjellyfish5538]

well they announced Wonder Woman quite a long time ago, but have had development trouble, so they *planned* to use it again a long time ago, just haven't been able to actually get the game out the door lol

[@CyrusIsnt]

​@@TheRealUcanUwillits not it falls under the software umberla. If you made a unique program you at least want to protect your idea since you are sell it right? Or are you fine with big corps jumping in and taking it?

[@TheRealUcanUwill]

@@CyrusIsnt are we talking program or idea? Either way, its not entirely the same, coming up with entirely new software idea in comparison to game mechanic. Games are art, art gets inspired by other art and inspires other art. No one is stealing software, they borrow ideas to push medium forward, such patents only stagnates the entire medium simply for personal gain, image if first sculptor patented marble masonry, well too bad...

[@Draidis]

Pantenting game mechanics should be illegal and you will never convince me otherwise.

[@Lord_Deimos]

I can't believe nobody adopted the cutting mechanics from Metal Gear Rising...

[@SupahKid4]

The Game „Fairytale Fights“ has a very similar mechanic, you can make precise cuts and the cuts are visible in real time. It’s set in a cartoonish fairytale world, but the cutting mechanic definitely has something in common with what Metal Gear Rising later perfected.

[@brucenatelee]

True. I was frustrated with Asmongold not actually using it the first several minutes of him playing it.

[@Stinkyremy]

Because it is crap. It's the reason why MG rising came into being because kojima found it to be crap and couldn't make it work in a game for the next MGS so dumped the tech but got platinum to at least make a game out of it as to not waste the work put in already creating the tech. Really, what is it useful for outside of looking nice. Even gameplay wise in MGRR it's just an inconvenience to the player. It's more better to just mash buttons or do one slice.

[@hakugen3479]

​​@@Stinkyremybozo got skill issue'd by Monsoon I can already tell.

[@Originalchili]

​@@brucenateleeasmongold is an insufferable person in general, I genuinely can't stand his face, and how he's a rage bait streamer

[@mistertwistyy3085]

From a fresh attorney who spent a lot of time with IP law in school: great job breaking down how patents work and what's going on with these video game patents! I found this topic so interesting that I decided to try to make it the focus of my career, so I love seeing it get more attention and really appreciated your commentary!

[@MagnusLegna]

I think patents like these should not exist or have a 2 year limit after which a new game using the same mechanics must have been made by the patent holder.

[@kraftypk7283]

If you don't like patents, move to china 😂

[@Originalchili]

​@@kraftypk7283you sound like a reasonable individual who's capable of honest discussion

[@Itomon]

2 years duration sounds way more reasonable - specially considering developing a game usually takes a lot longer than that anyways

[@kraftypk7283]

@@Originalchili I'm just pointing out that that's how the world works unfortunately. People have been patenting things for over 500 years for good reason. It's a shame that WB chose to patent this and never use it but that's the way the cookie crumbles

[@kevinpalacios1119]

Thing is that companies exist to make money so there's no incentive to stop making patents. Keep in mind that patents like these could be used by third parties but the patent owner will demand a percentage of profit in return, so no one ever really tries to do anything already patented. Best case scenario is do something similar but with a twist, maybe 2 to cover yourself legally.

[@SpiffidyKeen]

This isn't legal advice and I'm not a lawyer (though I did study law to a degree for work-related resons), but patent law is designed to protect unique inventions and, in most cases, the specific mechanics used in playing a game don't qualify (i.e. moving a piece across spaces on a board or placing letter tiles to form a word) because they are able to be implemented in any number of innovative ways to create something wholly different. There are multiple patents for manufactury processes of copper wires, but making something that uses copper wiring is not an infringement upon said patents because the invention itself is unique from the wire it contains. I don't believe any of these patents are enforcable just based on the nature of video games as a medium unless you can prove the code itself was lifted from one game and placed into another. 🤷

[@jekw23]

Thanks for the clarification. I would imagine a number of these patents can be disputed. Purely having it doesn’t necessarily mean it can be enforced.

[@vancomycinb1193]

Also, there's a thing in law (I know that it exists in trademark/copywrite, so I'd *guess* it applies to patents too) where you have to *aggressively* defend the disputed thing (copywrite/trademark/patent). If you *don't* even once, you might accidentally relinquish said thing. Now, that might only be in U.S. law though. But if it's at all similar in Japan, then Nintendo might have a fight, because they *knew* about Palworld for *years* and did nothing...only suing when it became very successful.

[@kotor610]

Problem is the courts benefit the rich, the average person cannot absorb lawyer fees necessary to fight a battle for years.

[@gregorynordquist278]

there's no such thing as unique inventions. if you thought of it so has someone else. patents are about claiming ideas, ideas lots of other people have had. so patent are BS used to make money. gotta love capitalism, or else

[@Sc5ch]

​@gregorynordquist278 There's hardly any point to an idea if it isn't realized. If nobody acted on them, we'd have a bunch of functionally useless ideas. Of course the people being proactive get priority. Also, how are patents "capitalism" related?

[@somerandomsgp]

Anybody catch the mistake that they said simpsons hit and run and showed footage of it instead of ROAD RAGE? Even the lawsuit article is about road rage NOT hit and run.

[@JoshuaJacobs83]

My favorite part of the Nemesis System was when you reminded an Orc that he is a husband and father and he is so distraught that he flees the battle to go hug his wife and daughter. As Tolkien intended

[@Boss_Fight_Index_muki]

We need a law stating: _Devs can only patent designs, not concepts_

[@ferrellgray-nz8ge]

yeah, more regulations oughta do the trick.

[@ashtonmiller-z1n]

we allready have one in teh usa by the way when it comes to that but osme contrys like japin don't want to play ball.

[@rustystratten499]

8:36 Needle in a Haystack= EA's One good Deed 😂

[@devastatheseeker9967]

The palworld one is a patent that was applied for AFTER palworld was in development.

[@Matt-md5yt]

that and other one they got is so BS

[@awfulname7610]

They suing for "multiple patent rights". I think it's about pokemon design of creatures also which is obviously stolen

[@RedMatthew]

​@@awfulname7610 Pokémon stole them first

[@x0b34rd4]

​@@awfulname7610 Suing Not sewing

[@devastatheseeker9967]

@@awfulname7610 They aren't suing for designs they're suing for gameplay specifically

[@ThatSoddingGamer]

#1 - *The Wonderful End of the World* comes to mind. It's a rather small game from a small studio, but the basic premise is saving parts of Earth before it gets destroyed. The only difference (aside from the very much 'indie graphics' look to it of course), is that you're controlling puppet that incorporates the objects into itself, rather than a tiny alien that pushes the ball that absorbs things.

[@NathanaelNewton]

Yea that's what I thought

[@ThaaKannon]

1:53 I never beat Shadow of Mordor , after about 10hrs in I would literally just hunt whoever was on the nemesis system screen

[@drakkar33]

Patents on vide game mechanics should be prohibited

[@tassadarth3106]

00:26 The Avatar

[@jonv0]

Just wanna point out that you mixed up Simpsons Hit and Run with Simpsons Road Rage. Road Rage is basically Crazy Taxi but Simpsons while Hit and Run is more of a GTA clone.

[@brianchassee]

yes and the road rage game had the big arrow floating over the car.

[@warrenpeace2111]

this is toxic, just like patent trolls, except stifling game creativity and innovation. especially when companies barely use said patent.

[@ellon1100]

How does it? These companies created the system, it makes them unique and gives the games a selling point again by it's competitors. Arguably it amplifies creativity as if a gaming company/studio wanted to they could 1. Buy the usage of the patent 2. Create a new style of said banned innovation.

[@redwolves285]

@@ellon1100 until a company group creates to many patents that they then patent jumping and if in your game you have a character that can jump well I patented that so you can’t jump so get sued

[@bradkirchhoff5703]

@ellon- just say youre a fucking moron…the poster is 100% spot on w everything he said. Absolutely correct on every aspect he touched on. They dont fully create anything. They take something publically available and expand on it. Then they stop making games. Meaning no other studio can take that feature and evolve it more for public use. Stamping a copyrite on it just shows your company is scared they cant do anything else and that feature is 100% what they bank on to get players to buy the game. Its toxic as can possibly be you fucking jackass.

[@x0b34rd4]

​@@redwolves285 That's not how it works, you know... Jumping in general can't be patented, but if the character does a specific animation in the way they jump, it could be patented For example, the way that Lara Croft can climb up a ledge by doing a handstand and flipping her legs over her head in the old Tomb Raider games. I think that can be patented since it's directly associated with the games and the IP

[@redwolves285]

@@x0b34rd4 ok then how about wall jumping x amount of times before you run out of steam

[@MercenaryTau]

Makes me wonder if devs can implement something similar and build on that across sequels until it's pretty much the same thing but the mechanics don't quite match up. "Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You broke my father's arm. Prepare to... pay for his medical bills"

[@lukeashe8313]

I was thinking that with nemesis. Have a seperate mechanic for remembering the player character/ what happened, have another mechanic for NPCs upgrading their stats etc.

[@KingOfhearts72]

I like how a bunch of these are “Nintendo being asshats and patenting novel concepts”. Also it is still always a major bummer we will NEVER see the nemesis system anywhere else.

[@EuDirijo051]

Yeah. Sadly Nintendo nowadays are just a bunch of ass hats profiting from old ideas, nostalgia and minimum effort

[@kevincampbell6359]

1

[@IcedKatana]

It is apparently being implimented in the upcoming Wonder Woman game so we might.

[@seam5818]

To add to the pal world debacle, they didn't have a pattent till after the game came out. Its hard to inforce copy rights of something written after somrone else was already using it.

[@barelycopper4959]

Video is titled Mechanics NOBODY ELSE CAN USE but number 12 is about a mechanic literally anyone can use. I will be suing Gameranx over this.

[@extragoogleaccount6061]

Video*

[@barelycopper4959]

@@extragoogleaccount6061 oop

[@dr.nottanownudder]

You got the Sega lawsuit wrong. They didn't sue over Simpsons hit n run. They sued over Simpsons roadrage. Which is much closer to crazy taxi than hit n run. It's the same premise and they have the exact same arrow above the driver

[@paulparker4133]

These guys don't actually do any research.

[@dr.nottanownudder]

@@paulparker4133 whoa there, it's a simple mistake. We're all human. No need for malice, it's just video games😆

[@David-ud9ju]

​@@dr.nottanownudder To be fair, they literally showed an article in the video that said Simpsons Road Rage on it, but then just showed Hit and Run footage, so it was some pretty poor editing there.

[@pigsinspace9927]

The Ultra hand is basically just G-Mod

[@Spyder13337]

it does not look that complex COD is not going to used it because they make enough money and just being FPS they dont need to add more shit to it but it seen like a niche the ultra hand mod would be

[@stuartmorley6894]

​@@Spyder13337it doesn't look complex in code? Because guarantee it does. Every object in the environment needs to be able to clip to every other object using multiple surfaces. It's ludicrously complex.

[@mr.penguin4614]

@@stuartmorley6894 yes, but not necessarily as complicated as you're making it out to be. some things still have a clearly defined function as a basis to work of of.

[@contra7631]

Which is basically half life-2.

[@extragoogleaccount6061]

Zelda is a Grill Off with Ultra Hand ripoff!

[@Savoots]

I read that WB cancelled the Shadow Of War sequel, so we probably won't be seeing the Nemesis System anymore at all unless they decide to license it to another developer. Just what the hell are they doing over there?

[@schlista]

I can't believe most of those can be patented.

[@Ganondorf77]

12:51 If only Todd Howard decided to use loading screen mini games in Starfield, probably would've had much less folks complaining about it

[@contra7631]

Agreed 🤔🤣

[@awesomebrotherhood7698]

The sam fishers no scope accurate shooting mechanism was used in assassin creed 3 when desmond directly attacks abstergo headquarters in the present

[@andilemtane2032]

ultra rare EA W for sharing ping mechanic

[@cladinshadows7306]

Dang man another rockin video my dudes! GR is a regular playlist during my workdays. Seriously guys thank you so much for such amazing content, it really does brighten my day when I get my GR fix going.

[@saviordream]

Man, I loved Mark of Kri! It's another forgotten Sony property that I would love to see make a return.

[@juanrios4030]

Jake : “Can you imagine like Link going crazy from being stuck in a dungeon….” Nintendo lawyers: “🗣️📞Yes, his name is Jake Baldino…”

[@jimbo130406]

Had a quick glance through the patent for nemesis system...it only seems to cover them for creating the mechanic way Monolith did, but tbh there are probably a couple of ways you could approach it and get a similar result 🤔

[@chris42069]

There's no way their patent is holding up in court unless you copied their code line for line

[@xizar0rg]

Bayonetta got around that namco patent by having, not a minigame, but a practice arena during loading screens.

[@KeepTryin]

This thing of patenting game mechanics is one the biggest setback in the gaming industry today. Pokemon games are a great example of how far behind Nintendo is compared to an indie company that made Palworld.

[@icecoldjohnnyy]

i remember watching a video like this last year from you guys. that’s how i found out that the nemesis system is owned by WB. can’t believe they STILL are doing nothing with it. hopefully the new arkham game can implement something

[@calebfillman8815]

8:42 the early gameplay of Apex has me nostalgic 😅

[@fearlesscheshirecat1411]

17:15 100% agree! The battle system in FF7 Remake was great, and then Rebirth somehow got even better. It’s easily one of the most fun games in my opinion to play! The combat is so addicting.

[@taylrgng]

11:00 they couldn't patent ultra hand... GMod already does this

[@sorahearts3317]

The thing is Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts did ultrahand before The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom and everyone hated it then Zelda does it and everyone loses their mind.

[@electroman51]

I loved nuts and bolts, but i was sad it was a banjo kazooie game

[@sorahearts3317]

@@electroman51 I'll admit it kinda took the piss outta of Banjo and Kazooie a lot but I still found an enjoyable game out of it.

[@sws212]

Reviews for Nuts and Bolts were positive, blame the fans for not buying it. Players wanted more Banjo and got a building game. Zelda fans got more Zelda along with something mostly optional.

[@sorahearts3317]

@@sws212 I'm a fan of both. I just find it funny how hypocritical it is when you really look at it.

[@gmailisaretard]

Pretty sure Garrys Mod had "Ultra Hand" first.

[@kiekeyz]

Doodoo choice tbh because I know there are companies that would absolutely cook with the Nemesis system and freeflow systems.

[@sariph00]

As a video game producer, this is a really useful video! I'd heard of the loading screen minigame patent and I'm very happy to learn that it has expired. Personally, I don't think anyone should be able to patent a game mechanic, as you mention in your video all it really leads to is stifling of creativity 😞

[@JScotty4Reel]

Imagine a Resident Evil game where they can use the Nemesis system with The Nemesis…

[@sunniedunbar6889]

Loved Mark of Kri. The character design was charming and brutal.

[@TawJev]

It's just ridiculous to prevent someone from using a mechanics similar to yours.

[@aftermodesmusic7440]

Especially the WB and pokemon one

[@TawJev]

I mean, you want to use your original mechanics as your "secret weapon" to ensure people will only play your game. But what's the point of that when the rest of your game isn't so great? You can find great mechanics in bad or boring games. Shadow of War has the *Nemesis System,* but is so repetitive game for me that the mechanis alone it's not enough to make the game better. Lookslike they're afraid talented devs would take their mechanics and make better games.

[@UpperDarbyDetailing]

I absolutely LOVED playing Galaxian while Ridge Racer loaded, and I loved playing Ridge Racer itself. It was fantastic.

[@oscarbraque]

@25:50 There's nothing tricky about this subject ! It's just plain and simple bullsh*t.

[@TrolletAmok]

Just a clarification. Patents have to be specific. This means that a game mechanic cannot be patented, but rather specific implementations of a game mechanic can. This mean that others can implement the same mechanic, they just cannot do it the same way as in the patent. (And a footnote - we do not yet know which patent Nintendo is suing over. It may be around the Pokeball, but they have over 3000 active Japanes patents right now)

[@bastiangugu4083]

For me, two battle systems in RPGs are the best I've ever encountered. The first one is from a really old game, Ambermoon on the Amiga, and the second is the one from Last Remnant. The ATB is a close third.

[@otapic]

should also call it 15 Scummiest moves in gaming history

[@TheRasheedWallace]

Hey @gameranx just wanted to give a heads up about patent law as this is kind of my area. Patents for video game mechanics protect the actual functionality of the mechanic itself (in this case its usually method patents, so the actual method of user interaction with the system from the video game). The "look and feel" mentioned here is in reference to copyright law which allows you to protect the expression of the idea. All of these games have copyright protection for the expression of the ideas in the games, however those with actual patents allow for the exclusion of others from making, selling or using their patented mechanic (essentially the functionality).

[@dizzytitan8481]

I always think about the finding Nemo video game loading screen game

[@GreyKingZero]

The ping and that last one, gathering things into a ball, are legit good ones. One helps others with no tricks, and the last is so unique and clever that you can't really get in trouble. So they can totally call dibs on that patent because it's their's no doubt about it.

[@threestars2164]

The nemesis system is an innovation of earlier games that introduced persistent interactions with npcs. Personalized enemies, and dynamic hierarchical systems where enemies could climb the ranks are certainly unique as far as I'm aware. Hopefully, a studio will take inspiration from this and come up with something even more ambitious. Adaptive AI outside of this has been rather disappointing, I can't think of any games that are doing anything special in that area.

[@calebayash8750]

could you imagine if gta san Andres or any gang, mob related game with this mechanic would make for a unique world

[@MajinFury]

the nemesis system is my favorite and i wish it could be used for a game like Halo or other games.

[@gameranxTV]

Absolutely!!

[@DeliciousVicious777]

14:07 but didn't Hitman: Absolution use that whole "mark and execute" system first?

[@raoufnamazifard8112]

"Onimusha 3 Demon Siege" has the dual reality concept, maybe Capcom should get in on this!

[@Nijonibi]

OOH! let's patent, side scrollers! Isometric! 3rd person! open world! over the shoulder! first person! lets patent all the things! ... F off. HEY lets patent the jump mechanic!

[@McYeroc]

You know how they call games IPs? Guess what that stands for? Intellectual property. All Intellectual property outside of gaming is patented why shouldn't they patent there creations within the gaming space?

[@Nijonibi]

@@McYeroc well, where to start... While it is one thing for a company to claim ownership of for example, the Dragon Age universe, or the Resident Evil universe, as that much makes sense. When it comes to game mechanics, and can become very limiting for developers and result in lower quality gaming experiences for the consumer. Let's say, that like pokemon, a developer team wants to have a creature capture mechanic for their game with dinosaurs (like Ark), so they have to make something different, they patent that idea. Then the next team comes along, with a new world, new premace, new story, new and totally different gameplay, blah blah, but they also want to be able to capture creatures in their game. So they patent their Idea. Then along comes a small indie dev, and they have what could potentially be the best thing EVER. but the ideas they have are all patented out, they either have to change things drastically to make things fit, or fork over a ton of cash to use an existing patent. Make sense yet???

[@Nijonibi]

@@casual_user-vt4bd you must be a ton of FUN at parties

[@Karont3s0]

also, with the rise of "a.i programming" (game design) it will happen some scenario where there will be a need to input "overrides" to big programming A.I, because it will/may "compute" that the best solution for its task is some 2020's patented solution

[@JetBlastoff-y6h]

@@McYeroc That would be like movies patenting things like "traking shots" "tension music" "taking cover in a gunfight" etc

[@SnappyJCM800]

Did anyone else just realize that Matriarch Benezia is voiced by Marina Sirtis (Deanna Troi)? When she said my mind at 21:44 my brain was like, I’ve heard that voice say that before.

[@Ádám-h1r4e]

I just have to point out 8:08 bro needs aimbot

[@Drothyr]

Thank you

[@Ádám-h1r4e]

@@Drothyr My aim is worse

[@Squatch_needs_no_heroes]

This video is just an excuse to call out Nemesis again. And I’m all for it.❤

[@gameranxTV]

LOL hey we appreciate you!

[@PhaRoaH87]

Nemesis system is great. Need more games from the devs with that implicated

[@smippycis6285]

Warthunder's patent on physics-based mouse aim flying is also crazy. No other game is then allowed to actually do simulatory physics calculation for aircraft to do mouse aim flying... It's so wild when they patent science in games.

[@Uprisenn]

Nintendo is just mad they didn't think of Palworld first. It's not like Pokemon fans haven't been asking for a "Palworld" game for years.

[@kingbbarry]

The PING system has changed World of Warcraft so much. There is no more yelling amongst pug raids and such. It is an amazing system

[@DanielGaviriaAcosta]

This is why the industry is stuck...

[@Extinguisher10]

21:44 Holy schnikey is that Marina Sirtis (Counselor Diana Troy)?

[@slicksilver9441]

Damn, gameranx subs keep climbing and climbing....awesome! I remember when they were below 1 mill subs

[@CorbinDallasMP]

Had to pause after listing the nemesis system. Big reminder, I couldn’t believe my favorite right hand Orc general stabbed me in the back when I needed him most just unbelievable 😂

[@neondystopian]

Your website needs to edit your article about how the claims against CD projekt Red were true and remove your slander of Endymion. I didn't expect this kind of stuff from you.

[@Rem_NL]

2 little 2 late, unsubbed, blocked channel from feed. I have 0 patients with woketards.

[@michouharoliyk2050]

Who gives a sh!t

[@cabecorra91]

nah

[@saschaberger3212]

@@cabecorra91why not? You support lies? That's not very cool of you

[@jotuthegamingguru8809]

​@@cabecorra91how does it feel to be a loser?

[@brucenatelee]

Wait, it's the ball capturing Nintendo is suing Pal World over? You mean the "genie in the bottle" mechanic? Wow!

[@chilliheadgaming5964]

If I was Palworld developer I would be petty and change the animation of trowing the ball to kicking the ball and Nintendo patent falls short, since it is patented trowing the ball into monsters to catch them.

[@prezlamen7906]

Id make it a cube instead of the ball and call it "craptendo cube".

[@EstherCastro-ij4wc]

I think the wonder woman game is supposed to feature the Nemesis System

[@EstherCastro-ij4wc]

Commented on my mother in laws KZbin 😂

[@Typhy7]

The first side scrolling video game showed up in 1977, eight years before the first mario game. Imagine if the makers of that game had patented the whole concept of side scrolling video games. We wouldn't have had mario or sonic or castlevania or any of the other classics. Nothing regarding a game should be allowed to be patented.

[@matthewtorley6508]

Well, the hardware it is played on should be, right?

[@MThornberg]

You know Nintendo just got all their lawyers in the same room and was like “aight someone come up with a way to stop this ish”

[@Rogokin]

ENDYMIONtv was right about CDPR.

[@THE_Game_Mental]

Its really a pinch moment when ea is mentioned for a good reason

[@a10bam420]

well, EA definitely gets a few cookie points for that move. good on them

[@TheAnton024]

That footage of old school apex brings back sooooo many good memories

[@MM22658]

of all those publishers who patented video game mechanics, i never expect EA to be the most generous of them

[@frogman-91]

I saw rhe title and immediately knew the Nemesis System would be included. It would be so fun in a ton of new games.

[@fearlesscheshirecat1411]

Pokémon is the biggest waste of an IP I’ve ever seen in my entire life…. GameFreak and Nintendo have been coasting on mediocrity for decades now, and rely solely on nostalgia. I would’ve loved to see the Pokémon games stick to sprites and do the 2.5D beautiful artistic backgrounds like Square Enix does for Octopath and games like that….. Instead of the derpy, ugly 3D models. Edit: Or if they were going to do the 3D models, at least make it with a beautiful art style…. Not the lazily made BS fans have been getting! Especially with the budget that they have to work with. Companies like Square make way better games with much higher quality. Despite having a tenth of the budget.

[@TawJev]

Actually, if Pokémon used the style of Octopath it would be really interesting.

[@fearlesscheshirecat1411]

@@TawJev Exactly!! Or better yet, what we’ve seen so far for Dragon Quest Remake. That art style is absolutely gorgeous! It would’ve been way better than what they’ve been doing.

[@TawJev]

@@fearlesscheshirecat1411 Nintendo is too comfortable with Pokémon franchise.

[@dappolajon7008]

U have no idea what you’re talking about if it was only nostalgia it would be mostly old ppl buying it and thats not the case at all

[@threestars2164]

Pokemon games are just another ad for Pokemon merchandise at this point. They have completely given up on competing with innovation found elsewhere in the industry.

[@ihavegymnastics]

Ultrahand is impressive because for it to work properly, ALL physical aspects of an item MUST BE thoroughly mapped out. That is brutally intensive.....

[@corey2232]

Palworld did it so much better than Pokemon Legends Arceus... Nintendo should be embarrassed that a small indie company outdid their multibillion dollar mega IP in one go.

[@ASLTheatre]

In Freedom Fighters I loved directing alíes to Defend/Attack/Stay where you pointed at. It was a great mechanic. I set up so many traps in Capture the Flag type missions. It saddens me no other game has used it.

[@cottoneyedjohnYT]

Yall are wrong for what you guys said about endymion

[@wickedjezter]

100% my days with this channel are over

[@clonazepanda]

Wack for them to write an article without using any facts.

[@michouharoliyk2050]

Who gives a sh!t

[@crestfall5331]

Haven't watched an Endymion vid in months. What happened?

[@stratis1274]

He's throwing a fit because of CDPR new scholarship and the wording the CEO uses to describe and explain why. Or something like that.

[@GodDiggetyDoodle]

modern AC games with the nemesis system would've elevated it new heights and really emphasized the importance of stealth

[@Adraeth]

That's the kind of stuff that ruins the video game industry... When you make it so nobody else can do something even remotely similar, you end up not making an effort because... well, there's no competition. And if there's no competition, you have no incentive to upgrade on the formula and make it better, so you don't. And you end up with something that becomes boring after two or three entries in the series, because you never have to reinvente anything so you just do the exact same thing over and over again...

[@ludologian]

8:34 surprisingly relaxing to hear nothing but Minor sounds like footsteps in a shooter game

[@Pmccaff2009]

Guys, love the channel - but have been meaning to say this for a while, we do not need 6-10 seconds of nauseating, obnoxiously loud gameplay in the middle of Jake or Falcon's narration. It completely disturbs the flow and takes us out of the video. I get having it to illustrate your point, but half the time it's not needed and even when it is, the editor leaves it on screen for far too long. It is infuriating. For anyone thinking I'm being OTT - skip to 24:10 - WTF is the need for this? Then literally 30 seconds later we've got 24:43. Enough already!

[@sls140]

I like seeing the examples of what they’re talking about in lists like this. I wouldn’t change it, Gameranx.

[@Pmccaff2009]

@@sls140 Like I said, I know why they do it - but it's excessive in terms of how LONG it's on the screen, just ruins the flow of the video. 2-4 seconds is plenty.

[@megaboy767]

Patents used to just be a way to protect your intellectual property from big companies and knockoffs, but now, it's only used by big companies to monopolize features and fun. Imagine the amount of awesome games that can never exist because some company patented a crucial feature that they never even use anymore.

[@NathanRyan92]

Y'all need to edit the article and apologize to Endymion. Game "journalist" with no journalistic integrity.