15" Ported Budget Beast! Tonewinner D6000 High Output Home Theater Subwoofer. Home Theater Gurus.

[@emillika]

I have two in the front of the theater and a Monolith 15" in the rear. Coupled with 6 Crowson TT's the room does NOT lack for LFE and tactile fun!

[@hometheatergurus]

Yeah that's a very fun combo for sure!

[@Bradimus1]

The only thing I would note looking at the driver is it doesn't look like it's particularly capable on excursion. But it still looks very nicely made and very reasonable for what the whole package is. A beefier driver would have driven the price up. You really can't complain with the beefy amp and what looks like a great app.

[@LDBaha]

Damn, this is why I like DIY subs. I built two 15" with Stereo Integrity SQL drivers and I spent a little more than $1500

[@jkfotonet]

Greeting from Oz. Thankyou for the YT review. Watched yours & Spec of Tech's YT. Demo'ed locally the D4000 & D6000. Both were impressive but hands down for D6000 which dug way deeper with more authority. Ordered two D6000 that day during blackfriday sale woohoo.. (awaiting delivery) :) Is there an explanation for all the feature on the EQ app that I can reference to? My current sub is easy with only 2 dials for freq x-over & volume. Thanks again

[@grahamherron6616]

What two subs would be best for just a living room set up about 2000 cubic feet size room could fit any two in opposite corners cheers

[@Bradimus1]

Seems like a good value.

[@hometheatergurus]

It definitely is.

[@Cybertron-cs7sk]

Tone Winner is killing it!

[@hometheatergurus]

I am definitely surprised at what they deliver.

[@PaulRLight]

I have a really large room and looking for the most “bang” for my buck. What does this sub sound like with music? I’m looking at a 60/40 movie/music mix.

[@chandan6119]

are the compression test results done at 1 meter? is it in room or in a open space?

[@hometheatergurus]

Outdoors but it was freezing so they were backed against a garage door facing out and at 2 meters.

[@chandan6119]

@@hometheatergurus thank you,very helpful data.

[@ozpanther1]

Would the 6000 be better than a svs SB16, yes I know one is ported and the SVS is sealed

[@hometheatergurus]

I'll just say on no planet would i choose the sb16 unless i was really hung up on a "pretty sub". Performance to dollar wise it's no contest.

[@chebrubin]

Every soundtrack is different. You might need to keep track of the subwoofer volume in a townhouse.

[@percybedford6266]

Damn, that's a good app. I wish my Monolith had one.

[@hometheatergurus]

Yeah it's super slick.

[@bencornejo9164]

Are you by chance going to review the d8000 ? Or have you Hurd it yet,or suggest it over the d6000

[@hometheatergurus]

Aamir has mentioned sending it to me for review so possibly.

[@TheNLHAZE]

​@hometheatergurus I have spoke with him about buying some of his stuff and he is very nice and easy to talk to can't wait to get my hands on one of the biggest sub he has no doubt 😊

[@hometheatergurus]

@@TheNLHAZE yeah Amir is an awesome guy.

[@GregBooth00]

Honestly torn between the d6000 and the rhythmic e15hp2 for music. 😮

[@stusok6981]

Was that glue all over plate amp? at 4:53 time stamp?

[@hometheatergurus]

Yep, which is very good to see as we want them to use plenty of glue. Wood glue is used on all speakers and subs throughout the industry.

[@alekk4592]

I got a question - does this thing have a midbass punch? I didn't see any of the comments asking about that. I understand that this is a 15", not a 18-21 inch driver which will have that for sure. But can a 15 inch driver actually give you a chest slam that you can feel?

[@hometheatergurus]

You can see the response at the end but midbass is in the target curve you eq in. If you're lacking in the 50-70hz range in your final response midbass will be lacking. Some subs have a natural response that peaks here so some may think they're better at midbass but in reality you need to eq a target to taste. But to answer, yeah, setup properly they rock.

[@PATRICEBAUDER]

Caisson de basse exceptionnel pour ce tarif.............

[@benfinesilver2250]

Do you think they will make a sealed series too? I know there’s a D9000 coming out. Would be nice if there was a sealed 6000, with it being smaller. Thanks for the video. Sounds crazy, but I’m saving to buy either this or a used Velodyne DD+, both the same price. I can buy cheaper as I live in China.. 970 USD for either choice… There’s no import duties or shipping obviously. I know it is difficult to say, but which do you think (a sealed Velodyne or a ported D6000) is better for 2.1 music? Obviously buying new, you get a warantee. However, the Velodyne probably has a higher value if sold on as the original price was $4,000-5000 USD. Sorry for the long message. I’m sure you likely have good advice, so that’s why I’m asking! Concerned about discernible sound quality and not mainly output. Thanks in advance.

[@hometheatergurus]

Both the D4000 and D6000 are sealed by using the port plugs and selecting sealed in the app. It's covered in the video. If a sub hits your spl needs and is clean there's no reason to spend more.

[@benfinesilver2250]

@@hometheatergurus Very respectfully, that really was not the answer I was looking for. Measurements are one thing. The quality of what you are listening to is another. I don’t want to make you upset or denigrate anything you are saying, but listening tests mean the most. You have to factor in distortion and punch. It’s always a debate as to whether sealed or ported sound best for music. You hear arguments both ways. The answer can’t be given by numbers. As I have no means to listen to a sub before I buy, it would be good to have an opinion based on listening. I don’t doubt that graphs mean something. As the Velodyne is significantly more expensive new, I would expect it to have higher quality, lower distortion components in particular the driver and amp. There is of course a massive difference between the cabinet sizes and a bigger cabinet goes lower and doesn’t need to be driven as hard. It is possible I am wrong in regard to respective component quality as Tonewinner do make high end stuff that doesn’t cost so much. That’s my dilemma. No ability to listen and everyone has different opinions that make it nigh on impossible to know what’s best. Thanks for understanding. Not meaning to slight you.

[@hometheatergurus]

@@benfinesilver2250 listening test, you're hearing you well they're placed and aligned, how well they're tuned to the room. You can have the same subs sound horrible and sloppy then someone that understands proper setup can come in and move them, align them, tune them and it sounds sublime, tight, punchy, rich. Listening test you are hearing how well they're setup more than anything, unless of course they can't hit the output needs but even that could be setup, subs out of alingment or poor placement.

[@benfinesilver2250]

@@hometheatergurus Thanks. The Velodyne has auto EQ that’s supposed to be pretty effective. The Tonewinner app is easy to use. I guess it depends how good you are at setting them up using both music and bass tones to tweak them. The D6000 is pretty massive, so there’s only one place I could put it (to the right of the front left in between speaker and tge TV cabinet). I could probably fit 2xD2000s, but I don’t know if the sound quality of the D2000 excluding output is up to scratch with a D6000 (different quality components for the respective prices). It’s a similar price for 2xD2000 as for 1xD6000. Maybe by smoothing out room nodes, that would sound better. I don’t really know and like you said, without room testing it is an impossible decision, So I’m left with a choice of A)a single D6000 (the best output and has a 5 year warantee) B) A used Velodyne DD12+ (no warantee, but has effective auto EQ with built in mic) C) 2xD2000 (can smooth room response and 2 subs add up in output, but the cabinet is likely not as well braced and the components cheaper, so sound quality is not as good?) Confusing :) Thanks for replying.

[@hometheatergurus]

@@benfinesilver2250 every avr out that has auto eq. That on a sub is not a feature you should care about nor use.

[@TechyComputersMAB]

This or the SVS PB3000

[@hometheatergurus]

That's not even a competition. You'd need a pb16 to have similar performance.

[@stevenfox5250]

Why do you say that it's not even a competition ? The SVS PB3000 is a 13 7/8" driver, the Tonewinner is a 15" driver. 15" vs. 14"....not much difference ?? Both have 800 watt RMS amps. The SVS PB3000 uses a 13 7/8" driver with an extremely large XMax. The PB3OO0 Should be competitive. Look at the Audioholics CEA2010 measurements for the PB3000 as well.