$15 vs $1500 Xbox One Controller Wheel for Forza Horizon 4

[@KevinKenson]

Just got the new White Xbox Elite Controller! kzbin.info/www/bejne/baeVhJKKf6eHsNE

[@rotegino7536]

Kevin Kenson im buying that too

[@leonmuric6872]

he didnt play he hat a blach t shirt and the guy who plays has a white t e

[@RedemptionRoofingConroe]

its because he's on ice

[@isaiahjones6682]

Or ya know, you could play or normally.......... just sayin

[@hondacivic199091]

I got the elite with my xbox one an I love it but I have had to replace the RB 7 times all ready it cheap made if it hadn't come with my xbox I wouldn't spend 150 dollars on it but I'm so use to using it I cant play without my.elite lol

[@malcior6465]

The wheel isn't calibrated right

[@olliverwiththatatratr7494]

Ye that’s what I was thinking 🤔

[@kamillegierski3663]

Malcior lower sensitivity

[@navbxx]

Exactly

[@graysonmoore1897]

I use a thrustmaster wheel for fh4 and i have the same problem with a huge deadzone

[@DriiftZero]

Grayson Moore I have the same problem

[@KayoMichiels]

Plays game with a (very good) wheel... still drives in 3rd person!

[@Busy_Paws]

And? Don't be THAT guy.

[@landok3920]

I know I clicked off when I noticed that

[@MKPerformanceTuning]

No, you're still here Lando

Especially since they added a dashboard view without the in game wheel

[@arsalanali7499]

Forza horizon looks awful in 1st person view especially with that 270° wheel lock. The chase cam is great if you compare it with cockpit view.

[@dizzzy6741]

The funny thing is you didn't setup the Fanatec Wheel because you steer 90 degrees and the car is steering like 20 degrees

[@runningturtl738]

Are u keem star now?

[@kyland719]

Yes thats how cars typically are in real life

[@buddee20]

@@kyland719 why would any automotive brand sell a car with that bad handling, it wouldnt even be safe

[@bakedbeans3999]

"Im not really into racing games" Buys $1500 setup....

[@canadianbears6145]

I don't think he lives alone. My guess is he and the other people he lives with pooled money together to purchase it

[@bakedbeans3999]

@@canadianbears6145 yeah i know he at least films in a studio Probably shared with other creators

[@zigmundfreiheit7222]

Sponsorships

[@thuglife2791]

because is sponsor

[@mikas6361]

Yes cause he is idiot and couldn't even setup his wheel properly

[@Steve30x]

If you use a proper camera view then the wheel would feel more natural. Even Hood view is better than trailer view

[@wrastler_j1943]

Steve 30x jayztwocents paired this with a vr set and he said he could never go back.

[@Steve30x]

I am well aware what its like to use a wheel in VR. I have a Thrustmaster TX and Dell Visor. But using trailer view while using a wheel will break the immersion and it just won't feel as good.

[@th00perman_]

*Agreed. I used to play ALL racing games in TPP/Trailer view until I discovered how great the dash view in Forza Motorsport 3 on 360.*

[@wavybump]

Nope i believe he experiencing a bug This WILL happen if you start the game with a pad and then switch to a wheel (which was no problem in fh3) Atm you HAVE make sure your controller is off THEN start the game with the wheel. Try it for yourself

[@Anirossa]

Steve 30x Indeed, I only use trailer view in super cars on highways where I need that visibility

[@danuzz_]

the car doesn't even turn when he turns the wheel what the heck

[@TheOvernightcoyote]

He is on snow, going fast

[@IWASTEDMYTIME]

The deadzone settings aren't configured correctly. Plus all forza games have shit wheel support.

[@danuzz_]

@@IWASTEDMYTIME finally someone who actually knows shit

[@vitalcubegaming3214]

IWASTEDMYTIME PS4 has better wheel support. I play dirt rally on my PS4 I use Logitech G29 and also use the 4th gear (shifter knob) as my handbrake. With an elastic strap to pull it back to 3rd so I don’t get my handbrake stuck.

[@Asa.romero27]

that's what I said bro

[@ren4972]

$1500 for a gaming steering wheel. $1500 for real car parts. 🤔 Good review though, makes me want to build a racing setup in the near future.

[@FrAg42]

Yeah, but you can´t just go 200MPH in real life... Or if you crash your real life car, you´ll have to spend money on repairs... Or you can´t drift, since you´d need to spend alot of money for new wheels... etc etc But still, I´d prefer real life :D

[@whoawatchoutorillflipyouof9815]

You can get a decent wheel setup (if you have a monitor) for about $300, including the chair

[@EvansOBV]

@@pinkroofbox4338 and are probably not financially capable of paying 1500...

[@Anirossa]

why only have one when you can have both

[@kaedeschulz5422]

When your car is ok why not buy wheel stuff and upgrade the car later?

[@100SlickSilver101]

This is such an odd video. You use a sim racing wheel on a game made to be played with a controller. FH4 honestly doesn't do the wheel any justice in terms what it can do. You didnt even set the wheel up correctly in game. There's obviously huge dead zones when you turn the wheel. Driving in chase cam with a wheel is also difficult. Even bumper or hood would've been better. I get what you're trying to show. I just feel that the wheel was put in its worst possible scenario for it to be used

[@frankwu1713]

Yeah i think he forgot to turn the wheel to simulation, he probably have it on normal, and maybe that is why there are so much dead zones

[@benjamin8558]

@DesolateHeart88 Gaming big ass r/woosh my guy

[@yourboimystic4737]

boi have you seen TheSLAPTrain

[@yourboimystic4737]

@DesolateHeart88 Gaming man the r/wooosh my guy

[@yowie7169]

@@hunterrrdrives You calling a Ferrari a Lamborghini is a terrible joke tbh, it legitimately looks like you just fucked up and are trying to cover it up lol.

[@habibi.automotive]

Did you check the dead zone and the force feed back, because the fanatech wheel is so much better then that please check. Oh and simulation wheel in settings and check wheel rotation put it on Maxs

[@wavybump]

Nadder Alkhersam It's a bug that hasn't been patched. This WILL happen if you start the game with a pad and then switch to a wheel (which was no problem in fh3) Atm you HAVE make sure your controller is off THEN start the game with the wheel. Try it for yourself

[@habibi.automotive]

I start it with just a wheel o guesses that must be it but I think they have to retest it

[@roberttgdavis]

It looks like your wheels sensitivity is way to low

[@sjrjfndn]

Ye

[@p.r5135]

2:37 the controller attachment is one of the coolest ideas I have seen as the gear system that you are talking about is actually used in cars. In the mechanic trade it’s what’s known as as a rack and pinion steering system in older vehicles it’s as basic as the mini controller version but on newer vehicles they add additional electrical and or hydraulic power steering.

[@xxpistonxx7923]

$15!?? I printed that for 65 cents

[@bigmac7228]

Make me one and send it to me lol.i can't understand what the name of site is he is saying at start of video.

[@3lectronX]

I used my school's 3D printer

[@mattslouse919]

I did the same

@@3lectronX schools printer? Fuck mate what kind of advanced ivy league rich kid school do you go to?

[@Ceezah_]

hellhole Take computer aided design if your school has it, my school is any regular public school and we have like 6 3D printers

[@TheCreator919]

Jesus Christ the deadzone on that thing is crazy big. Either you got a faulty product or you didn't calibrate it correctly. In any case, this renders the whole video moot

[@JohnE03]

I wonder if Kevin has a drivers license lol

[@th00perman_]

*Answer spotted @**1:36*

[@Anirossa]

Johnny Estrada I don't think he does

[@manjot2727]

the wheels not calibrated and you don't​ have snow tires on...

[@wyrmmm]

You should try that with the Elite controller, i think the paddles on the bottom will make it much better

[@manadog]

“I was doing much better before camera turned on” then plays in 3rd person with a wheel.

[@Jeefly]

Looks like he's just watching a video and trying to anticipate it

[@zachmarra2355]

Kevin you really seem like a genuinely fantastic person. Like one of those very few once in a lifetime people that it's like really just amazing to know and meet because of how good of a person they are. I always get that vibe when watching your videos

[@like_a_boss1353]

Is it me or does the big wheel feel loose or like it has bad response time. For $1500 it should be tight imo

[@Steve30x]

I don't have a €1,500 wheel so I can't tell you how it feels

[@zacjohnson7071]

It wasn't calibrated properly, I feel like the deadzones were too low

[@KayoMichiels]

I think he probably forgot to set it to 360° mode... the stock wheel is set at 1080°

[@sajanpatel4956]

MK3424 You mean 180?

[@KayoMichiels]

Dear god no! 180° means that you can turn 90° to either direction, whilst 360° is half a wheel turn to either side, personally i'm using 540° (1,5 turn)

[@corsa4life603]

Love the video, love the idea. Showing both extremes... just a few comments, when using the wheel, drive in cockpit view, (better driving experience). And keep in mind your driving in the winter season, so the physics are tuned for snow driving, you will need to adjust for those mechanics.

[@memeboij5656]

“I’m in last now I’m going to blame it on you” -Literally not even in a race-

[@UncleJessy]

Dude! Thanks for the shoutout! Had no idea you ordered one! I have a Forza controller settings update coming out Friday or Saturday

[@GrizzlyGarage]

"I'm in last..." Not even in a race

[@01zakman]

When he says he’s last he’s not even in a race

[@adrianpuchacki1566]

1:35 look at the wheel after to game

[@PhilipKaden]

Dead zone is too high

[@MrJomalley123]

You sir have earned my subscription!

[@holmgren04]

It is made by Pixel2 on Thingiverse, Uncle Jesse just printed it. You should give credit to the guy that actually made the thing. thingiverse.com/thing:3049220

[@bengilbert5876]

You should compare racing wheels in between the $1500 over the top setup and the $15 etsy thing

[@F91W]

Can’t understand why people play in 3rd mode using a wheel

[@shadowwin7272]

Maybe because they aren't you? Remember it's a game and as such the people have a choice of how to play it.

[@youtubeboss6185]

Never heard of you before but I'm subbing to you your awesome this vid was worth all my time 🙂

[@JCBjr15]

Now let's compare $15 wheel vs $1500 wheel vs $80 Nintendo Labo wheel. lol

[@BossIncorporatedGaming]

“Thanks to you guys, I’m in last” > Is in free roam

[@Riceonrice]

The wheel not being calibrated makes me hate this video it’s all I can see

[@Luca-ye9yv]

Same

[@saucefeend]

3:53 he was tryna flex lmaooooooooooooooooo apple watch and ow adidas i see you bruh

[@webber0735]

That's a lot of money for a controller, I think I like the 15 one more just cuz I'm not rich😂

[@GTChucker86]

Webber 07 it has force feedback, you can feel every bump in the road through that fanatec wheel

[@NaruSanavai]

Because that's what I look for when playing an arcade racer.

[@GTChucker86]

Naru 'Sanav well you can feel it and for an arcade game it has decent force feedback. My point is the steering wheel cost that much because you get what you’re paying for. Ive seen some people lashing out on these type of steering wheels just because of its price and assume its just a fancy steering wheel just mounted on a regular controller not taking into account the technology in the wheel. Yes horizon is best played with a controller but people calling out a wheel just because they think it wouldn’t enhance their experience and not worth the price is just stupid.

[@chrissummers1556]

Thank you for bringing out Richard cause we definitely need someone's opinion who's actually good at racing.

[@sammy-bd3lt]

You need to turn the sensitivity up your wheel seems really stiff

[@zezarusgaming9286]

I use a thrustmaster tx550 and a welded together frame made at home. Wheel offers finer control and feedback but takes getting used to. A few notes, people don't buy expensive setups to drive 3rd person. Wheel and force feedback are clearly not setup properly. While Horizon is a good steering wheel game, motorsport 7 is what its meant for. Also, the game changes steering ratios, feedback and more when a steering wheel is used. A plastic wheel on a hand controller will never reflect that. Fun video though.

[@jimpaa4907]

You can buy a car for $1500

[@oregon2012]

Wut?

[@shadowwin7272]

My Ford escape 2006 with 140k miles was 600 so..

[@センナ-h4c]

CIVIC

[@bbdeagle]

For all interested in the small wheel. Here are the files for self printing ;D All credits to pixel2 ***Xbox version*** www.thingiverse.com/thing:3067133 ***PS4 version*** www.thingiverse.com/thing:3062713 ***I don't a have a printer but I want a wheel?*** These shops have been granted the rights to sell the wheels: USA: www.etsy.com/shop/UncleJessy4Real?ref=condensed_trust_header_title_sold South Korea: naver.me/5PQinujR France: www.etsy.com/fr/shop/IronFishShop Spain: racesim.es/

[@redwingdog22]

There's a thing called the settings menu.

[@kjcomputer]

wheel: force feedback controller: VIBRATE

[@1CoLoRz2]

Why do so many people say "Fortza"

[@typingcat]

Kind of look like an Italian word, and we say "pitza" for "pizza", so... PS: I just checked it with Wiktionary. The Italian word "forza" means "force", and is pronounced like "fortsa".

[@alvinbautista9699]

@@typingcat thought it was speed but okie :)

[@rascuvalentin]

Wtf learn Russian, Italian, Spanish, English, Romanian, French, I know only these :(

[@Jaeger78]

I can see in the video the deadzone on your professional setup looks like its set to the default 10%, which is why you're cranking the wheel like crazy to get any turning going (if its a 900 degree wheel you'd need to go past 90 degress before ANY turn is input). You have to go to the controls, highlight over the Axis for turning and select Advanced Options, turn off the deadzone, the car should feel extremely responsive, not floaty like it looks in your video. I had this issue with my wheel, default deadzone is massive and terrible.

[@SIRXMAN]

His biggest mistake is not being in incar view or hoodview that is his biggest mistake

[@ShadowLimited310]

Ur getting some major understated with that wheel ur using

[@nieznanysprawca1318]

where you can buy this small steering wheel??

[@THATRACCOONDUDE]

Mom : get off your wheel controller it’s not teaching you anything Child : yes it is it’s teaching me how to drive

[@dahe904]

Wait!it looks like the wheel isnt even working

[@year5testpupil783]

they didn't set it up

[@seabassdadino2815]

2 year anniversary for this video who else got this in their recommended 2 years later?

[@darkracer1252]

15 bucks? 0.o that's WAAAAAAAAY overpriced. that's a 3d printed part. about 1 dollar of material

[@lafan9872]

When you wanna hit the track but you just came off your third D.U.I

[@DavidFernandez-sc5ws]

Looks like you have no idea how to calibrate that wheel. Did you see that dead zone?

[@wavybump]

David Fernandez It's a bug that hasn't been patched. This WILL happen if you start the game with a pad and then switch to a wheel (which was no problem in fh3) Atm you HAVE make sure your controller is off THEN start the game with the wheel. Try it for yourself

[@jhnzmi]

This video is Top Gear AF. 100/10. 👏👏👏👏👏

[@bruhfridc1957]

Damn when your first To like your own comment

[@hockalover483]

You're*

[@DeadPhoenix86DP]

No just no...

[@xFreSh999_]

Hocka Gaming got him good

[@thebasilisk4229]

That's old bruh

[@brandon_nope]

*you’re

[@Xposcura]

1:46 Not even in a race "I'm in last" Either way I like Forza videos just found that funny.

[@norwegianmountainbiker236]

Horizon is just a game you play with a normal controller

[@wavybump]

Norwegian MTB Guy you're tripping check out videos of people drifting with a wheel in fh4. The game becomes SIMULATION WITH A WHEEL. You better ask somebody. Smh

[@1pelikone]

Horizon is nowhere close to a simulation. Forza games in general are not simulators.

[@graysonadams2485]

@@wavybump horizon is the opposite of simulation no matter the controller

[@Zoidberg13197]

@@graysonadams2485 regardless the wheel support should be alot better. A few devs made it possible in assetto corsa, howcome a big game studio cant do the same?

[@RocketGlizzy]

@@graysonadams2485 whats a good more realistic racing game ? I have ps4 and pc and people are giving ganes left and right ... do you know any for sure ?

[@CommodoreFan64]

A while back I happened to luck up in my local Goodwill, and find a Logitech NASCAR branded USB Racing wheel with the pedals for PC, and it really does help make racing games like Dirt 3, OutRun Cost to Cost 2006 more immersive, and fun, but you really need the space to set them up proper for the best experience.

[@luharn5790]

I don't use a wheel, but something seems off with the Fanatec.

[@wavybump]

Stainy39 It's a bug that hasn't been patched. This WILL happen if you start the game with a pad and then switch to a wheel (which was no problem in fh3) Atm you HAVE make sure your controller is off THEN start the game with the wheel. Try it for yourself

[@Jpilgrim30]

That and his settings are out of whack.

[@Komaticom]

I picked up the mini wheel for PS4. Taking getting used to but works well. Play in vr for a bit of extra immersion

[@casebucket195]

where is the stick

[@Magnumraider]

"Im gonna blame that on talking to you guys." Me: 'THAT SENSITIVITY THOUGH!'

[@Domo-]

4:31😂😂😂

[@wolfie-kunuwu3986]

Me: plays game 20 mins later Me: I can't F*cking turn👿👿👿

[@matthewmelegrito1050]

proof that gamers don't actually know how to drive

[@GTChucker86]

Matthew Melegrito but simracers do

[@matthewmelegrito1050]

some of them yeah

[@godly208]

I have noticed one thing. You are experiencing a lot of problems with having to turn the wheel too far. So when this happens, just restart your console. DO NOT unplug the wheel when you do so. Start your xbox up and sign in. Go back into forza and you won't have the same problem.

[@ging3r333]

rockin' it with those NMD R2s!

[@BakerRacing]

I have the fanatic wheel and it drives nothing like that, it drives like a charm. Also the driver cam is best suited for the wheel.

[@bishopwilliams6817]

Just bought a 3d printed wheel controller. Will let u know my experience when I get it

[@ihamptonii]

Interesting video, but if you are considering a wheel and pedal set up I suggest you check out older videos from Inside Sim Racing, The Sim Pit, and Jimmy Broadbent. Once you go with a wheel properly set up there is no going back to a controller, especially if you want immersion.

[@MattyGainz]

calibrate that wheel man driving me crazy watching that hahaha

[@rhythmtreble7311]

if you're complaining about having to take a thumb off for shifting... use the bumpers. put it on manual with an auto clutch.

[@iraqifoodcart8447]

Your tv is mounted too far up in relation to the location of the wheel. Either lower the tv mount or build a platform to raise the height of the entire rig

[@justkurup8386]

Spends $15 on a piece of plastic Me: prints it for under 10 cents

[@ddkgarage4567]

Watching them race reminds me when I start playing 😂 forza Motorsport 1 you guys are awesome 😂😂

[@natahtakaizumi1987]

the steering wheel setup would go perfect with the following: the oculus rift headset, a vr suit (yes that's a thing.) first person veiw lock, and extremely high smoke graphics. (like that'll happen...)

[@mazda_miata_]

I have a Thrustmaster TMX with T3PA pedal set and TH8A shifter and a seat off of a 1990 Miata from a junkyard. All in all it probably cost around $400 (my seat was $15, depends which junkyard you go to.) If you can afford a $1,500 Fanatec setup then do it because they’re incredible stuff. But I have just as much fun with my cheap (compared to the fanatec) setup. And also have a ton of memories and attachment to it, because I bought it all without a job and just cleaning houses with my parents before I got the job I have now

[@josephducreux4236]

Where do I get one? Props to Kevin for linking everything he's sponsored to link but not the 3D printed steering wheel and not even giving the guy a shout-out

[@binga.2863]

My dad works for grain ship loading docks and one of the ships I toured had a steering wheel that was *_LITERALLY THE SAME SIZE AS THE 3D PRINTED WHEEL ON THE CONTROLLER_*

[@ionehkontehdiabo7627]

That dead zone is terrifying

[@kylebequette9220]

I've had this wheel setup since it was released and it's definitely not meant for an arcade racer

[@jamesdunning4205]

How do u not have 1 mill subs ur amazing

[@pilt6569]

In my opinion, racing wheels or even play seats are for a specific groups, so not for everybody. I own a wheel that was 110€ and it's awesome. But for unexperienced people, maybe even people that are not even into racing games like Forza, this wouldn't be fun. Depends on who is testing it.

[@welshimegs]

When you don't have a driving license

[@AyyItsJk]

Switch manual to RB and LB for easier shifting!

[@03codey]

"Uhh yeah I like the force feedback, because it uhh.. gives you feedback" I would hope it does at 1500$

[@VELOCITYxTANK]

For manual with the 15 dollar one just swap the up and down shifts to the bumpers and use your middle fingers for the triggers.

[@ForbiddenFate]

$1500 for a controller that I then have to spend like an additional $300 for the console , $60 for the game , and if you want to get nit picky probably $100-$300 for the tv but most people have a TV lying around so excluding the tv cost thats STILL about $2000 after taxes. All so you can simulate driving a car. Or you could just buy a car.

[@Sabba7h]

AM I THE ONLY ONE SCREAMING AT HIM TO RECALIBRATE THE WHEEL TO THE RIGHT DEGREE MEASUREMENT

[@ErickMcNerney]

2:02 I would just blame it on driving a lambo in the snow.

[@mr2matt]

I have a very similar wheel setup, I just have the standard CSL Base, elite pedals, and the p1 wheel. I have the same seat and the clutch and stick shift is coming soon

[@dat_sneckie_boi6375]

You can see the urge to resist using the left thumbstick.

[@tomwhitney1721]

this guy sounds like that chaos dude

[@samhorne4651]

1:46 says he is in last when he isn’t even in a race

[@gangsterhamster8415]

Oh Lordy lord this game looks beautiful

[@markkevinurquico]

One of the not boring youtuber haha

[@patricks.7951]

For everyone commenting on the calibration. It looked like they had all the assists on, and they weren't even in the interior view. That just doesn't look like someone who cares about the calibration of their sim wheel lol. Just my 2 cents.

[@wafisduck1367]

I think the forza horizon games are the best car games! 👍❤️