156 - Swastika Raised on Highest Point in Europe - WW2 - August 21, 1942

[@WorldWarTwo]

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[@PhillyPhanVinny]

We are now at the point of WW2 covered in the great HBO WW2 mini-series "The Pacific". The Pacific along with it's sister series "Band of Brothers" are I'd say the 2 most historically accurate WW2 depictions of battle ever created out of both movies and TV shows. If you have never seen the Pacific I highly recommend it. If you liked Band of Brothers you will like the Pacific. They are both created by the same people, Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg and the rest of the same staff (Spielberg was not involve din the work on the Pacific). These 2 of course also worked on 2 of the other great WW2 movies in "Saving Private Ryan" and "Schindler's List" (a movie that will still make me cry every time that I see it). I would love to see them make another WW2 mini series like the Pacific or Band of Brothers. I also think it would be cool to see them do a mini series like those 2 for WW1. I think it would be cool if they did individual episodes telling the stories of individual soldiers like in the Pacific for WW1 but in each episode maybe cover a different nation. So some American episodes (that is the biggest audience and who they would be selling the show to as the primary audience) but then also I would like to see British, French, German and Russian episodes as well. The success of movies like 1917 and Dunkirk shows again that a war movie does not have to be about Americans for it to have financial success. Also just found out that there is a new WW2 HBO miniseries by Tom Hanks coming out soon called "Masters of the Air" which will be about the US 8th Air Force that fought in Europe during WW2.

[@jasondouglas6755]

What happened too the Weapons of Guadalcanal video?

[@gunman47]

@@jasondouglas6755 The World War Two team retracted it. Read here for the reason why: kzbin.infoUgzadAA6KR_RWAQ5Cl54AaABCQ

[@PhillyPhanVinny]

@@gunman47 I guess the error they are talking about on the Guadalcanal Weapons video was about Indy saying the US M1 Garand gave off a "ping" sound that alerted enemies to the US solider being out of ammo? If so that was a error but not a big enough error that I think it was worth taking the video down over. Many soldiers who fought in WW2 did actually think the ping could give them up for being out of ammo. It wasn't until within the last 20 (really last 5-7) years that testing on that ping has been done and was determined that no enemy could actually hear it during the heat of a battle. I still really enjoyed that video and had been asking for videos on the small arms each country used in WW2 for a while prior to that video. So I hope they don't go back to covering the small arms of WW2 like they have done for tanks and planes. The small arms used by each nation in WW2 is very interesting. They are much more varied then the small arms used in WW1 and the coverage of the small arms of WW1 were some of my favorite videos from the Great War channel back when Indy and the team worked there.

[@legiohistory2544]

Are you going to talk about the massive air battle that occurred above the Pad De Calais. That occurred after the battle of Dieppe?

[@ryanjackson1999]

Imperial Army: “Hey what happened to those aircraft carriers you guys had we haven’t seen them in a while” Imperial Navy: “They’re under the sea” Imperial Army: “I’m sorry WHAT?” Imperial Navy: “Uhhh I said they’re still out at sea” Imperial Army: “Oh...Okay...”

[@edwardblair4096]

Imperial Navy: "Darling it's better, Down where it's wetter, Take it from me"

[@georget8008]

It's insane. The Navy conceals from the Army the Midway disaster. What is this? Two competing armies in the same nation?

[@tompompom2299]

"we converted them into submarine carriers. Nobody will see them"

[@georget8008]

@@tompompom2299 ....ever again

[@soumyadeepchatterjee1262]

@@edwardblair4096 Oh shit

[@mjbull5156]

FIinally, news of a successful Axis intelligence operation. The Japanese Navy has quite befuddled the Japanese Army about the strategic situation in the Pacific.

[@damonwright608]

A highly under-rated comment. Thanks for the laugh!

[@ayylmaoo7071]

The japanese navy can beffudle anyone,even the japanese army. That's how powerfull they are!

[@samholdsworth3957]

The Japanese hate Japanese. Very racist people

[@wizzyno1566]

@@samholdsworth3957 thats not what racist means. Well done introducing the R word where it wasnt needed though!

[@laurenceingram7314]

Highest Mountain in Europe: "You can't claim us we've been here for millions of years" Wehrmacht: "Do you have a flag?"

[@matthewbadley5063]

No flag no country. Those are the rules the British made up.

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

Britain *sees a peace of sand* britain flag

[@davidwright7193]

Should have climbed Ushaba. That was given to Queen Victoria by a local chieftain in the late 19th Century. It’s the only bit of British land that these guys are likely to see.

[@varana]

@@davidwright7193 Well, they _see_ lots of British land, though usually just from up above, and for a short time. ;D

[@whatsupinthisau2430]

How do you have a comment 4 days ago on a video uploaded yesterday? Is that a patreon bonus?

[@jasondouglas6755]

We all have been going through hard times over the past year and half. But Indy and team your WW2 Sires keeps a lot of us going and is something we can all enjoy thank you guys so much. Be coming a Patreon is one of the best decisions I ever made.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you so much for your support! We're very happy that our content means so much to so many people, and your appreciation truly means the world to us ❤️

[@tillman40]

It’s been business as usual for me. Don’t let the fear get to you. Think of Patton, McArthur, Ike

[@specialnewb9821]

@@tillman40 Tell that to my 6 dead family members.

[@Ronald98]

@@specialnewb9821 may they rest in peace... i am sorry for your lost

[@g7alger]

@@tillman40 think of McArthur… so we should be totally unprepared and blame everyone else for our mistakes? Got it

[@SilverFox-qr1ci]

This program is like Saturday morning cartoons for historians. Thank you!

[@WorldWarTwo]

We're glad you enjoy it! Thank you for being a fan!

[@MansionByBeach1]

*for history lovers

[@albiagioni100]

I feel the same! Sometimes (Monday to Friday) I caught myself waiting for my weekly dosis

[@luisvaldes1568]

good one!

[@bretthaskin4384]

“Alligator creek is called that because of all the crocodiles there, not alligators.” If that ain’t American I don’t know what is

[@korbell1089]

easiest way to tell the difference between them is... one will see you later and the other in awhile.

[@Phenom98]

They should've called it Crocodile Dundee 🐊

[@Jansmaaa]

They could've called it Croc Creek. Easier to say too.. but nooooo. :D

[@cammobunker]

Most of the WW2 Marines had no idea there was a difference. These guys were not especially well read or sophisticated...just damn good Marines.

[@docvideo93]

I guess there weren't many Marines on Guadalcanal from South Florida where there actually is a crocodile population.

[@docvideo93]

Japanese Army: Hey, where are your carriers? Japanese Navy: None of your damn business!!

[@SpartacusColo]

Ego gets in the way of so many things.

[@Cancoillotteman]

Japanese Navy : "Where is your Guadalcanal strike force ?" Japanese Army : "Not YOUR goddamn business ! "

[@KenjaTimu]

To be fair the Japanese army beheads POWs and uses heavy artillery on civilians. So i wouldn't tell them anything either.

[@WeebishSwed]

Seems like having your military hate itself isn't super effective... Still works for the US somehow.

[@SpartacusColo]

@@WeebishSwed I don't think it's gotten itself there just yet. But it is on its way.

[@cobbler9113]

The standard response to analysing a British and Commonwealth defeat in WWII (then and now) is to say "important lessons were learnt" or just blame the French. At this point of the war, I'm looking very forward to seeing British and Commonwealth forces applying this substantial amount of knowledge that they've gained since 1940.

[@Dustz92]

Well they learned (as evidenced by the air losses) that their Spitfires were inferior to the new German FW 190s, so it probably helped them in getting out better Spitfire versions faster...

[@merdiolu]

They learned NOT to attack defended enemy ports seaward and bringing specialised armor and tank/motor vehicle carrying craft and their own portable harbour piers...all would be very useful evidently two years later but of course in victory there are too many fathers , the defeat is an orphan

[@badbotchdown9845]

@@Dustz92 it's not true at the beginning of the battle of Britain RAF have keep the 3 aircraft formation in the mean time followed their experience in Spain germans have adopted the schwarm 2 pairs of two with a leader instructed to be cover up in any situations encountered, Spitfires are better in straight turns and manœuvrability when bf 109 have better speed in dive. The only true difference was pilot experience and tactics used. The spit was very obsolete when fw 190 have take service in 1941 that's for what they have builded the spit IX replacing the V

[@stevekaczynski3793]

@@Dustz92 Even that had been known for several months. There is some doubt whether lessons were really learned that offset the losses. The German forces in the Dieppe area were not exactly crack troops, a significant number of the army soldiers were Volksdeutsch and in many cases more Polish than German, but for the most part they put up bitter resistance to the raid.

[@cwtrain]

That's "Lessons were *learned*."

[@soumyadeepchatterjee1262]

"Maybe one final offensive thrust and they will take Stalingrad and reach the Volga ,Wait what is the prize again?" I love it

[@Cancoillotteman]

You have invaded so much of the USSR. Then watch at the surrender barr : "oh, only 37% of victory points invaded"...

[@CrashXII]

@@Cancoillotteman better snake through siberia to get that one village with the last victory point

[@soumyadeepchatterjee1262]

@@journeymantraveller3338 The third in a row-Kiev, Moscow and now Stalingrad

[@soumyadeepchatterjee1262]

@@CrashXII That one last village

[@KenjaTimu]

Stalin will have to surrender if they take Stalingrad. It's in the rules.

[@doomed1673]

I am very happy to say I recommend this series to my colleague at school who teaches GCSE history, one day last term I walked past her room to see an episode of 'on the home front' showing for the class.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Very cool! Thank you.

[@jasondouglas6755]

“When I was on Guadalcanal we didn’t have any fancy smany Grands. We had a Springfield, two Springfield’s and a water cooled machine gun for the whole Platoon, and we had to share the Machine gun!!

[@Anonymous14217]

Yes sir Sergeant Johnson sir!

[@billythedog-309]

@@Anonymous14217 Who needs a smany grand?????

[@gwtpictgwtpict4214]

Eeh, you were lucky! We had to get up half an hour before we went to bed and recapture the Springfield's from the Japanese before we could fight them. You tell that to kids today and they just don't believe you.

[@rcgunner7086]

Bataan soldier looks up, "Oh? I bet you had ammo for them too. I also bet you ate 3 squares too, didn't ya? You''re pretty lucky, Mac."

[@Asahamana]

"When I was marching on the forests of Karelia all we ate was porriege and hard bread. 3 times a Day, and our first aid platoon had excatly two guys In it. The Best Day was when we found a farm that had a potato field near it. We ate like kings that Day."

[@sturmkindtraum]

my great uncle was there. my grandma once showed me a picture he took with some other soldiers in front of Mount Elbrus. He was a panzer driver who was buried alive in his tank at one point and escaped the burning tank as only one making it out at another. he suffered heavy ptsd from that until his death in the 70s.

[@mhyotyni]

Terrible fate for your great uncle. These small stories, millions of them actually, make the terror of the war much more comprehensible from the human viewpoint. May he rest in peace. Thank you for your share!

[@beeg8615]

What unit did he serve with?

[@sturmkindtraum]

@@beeg8615 I wish I knew. My grandma showed me this picture when I was very young, before my interest in history or before I could ask this question. But I think she didn't know, since he was her brother-in-law and my grandfather died long before her.

[@revanofkorriban1505]

@@sturmkindtraum It might be possible to figure out what his unit was, but yeah, it would be very difficult.

[@pagodebregaeforro2803]

@@mhyotyni others got way worse. At least he reached his 50s or 60s.

[@diedertspijkerboer]

Now that the Germans have taken Mt. Elbruz, they must be getting close to Everest. It's a distance of only a few miles.

[@AO00720]

I see what you did there. Nice one

[@stanbrekston]

Huh?

[@nicholasconder4703]

You could say this is the high point of the war for the Germans.

[@Dustz92]

@@nicholasconder4703 It actually kinda is, next week it's when everything starts goind kinda south with the Wehrmatch advance in the Caucasus stopping, the Luftwaffe reducing Stalingrad to rubble and Rommel exhausting his reserves in a pointless attack (well that's actually in two weeks)

[@link6248icp]

@@Dustz92 What are you talking about?? Rommel has the allies right where he wants them and the distance between Kalach and Stalingrad is less than 75km. It isn't even september yet so weather will not be an issue. This war will be over by christmas in both Cairo and Astrakhan; you'll just see

[@meekonvadaameh]

Yet again Indy fails to say goodbye before hanging up the phone. I feel sorry for whoever's on the other end.

[@jamestheotherone742]

Dramatic pauses are rarely polite.

[@t5ruxlee210]

@@jamestheotherone742 There is also a superstition among some that saying goodbye will being bad luck.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

So you pity Noone? Nice chapt that Noone, lots of involvement in history actually. Presumably his whole family was always around so Noone was at fault :D

[@jamesrogers47]

Everyone is having great fun pointing out that the "alligators" in Alligator Creek were in fact, saltwater crocodiles, yet ignoring the more salient fact that saltwater crocodiles are notorious man-eaters. I suspect those crocodiles enjoyed quite the feast.

[@samridhyadutt5284]

yeah they did. the dead soldiers provided a good few month's rations for those nasty things, and at night, the Marines used to hear the crunching every night, shuddering now and then.

[@cammobunker]

You need to read Robert Leckie's "Helmet For My Pillow". Not only was he actually there as a machine gunner, but was also a prewar newspaper writer and later became a serious author and wrote over 40 books. His book is one of the three that made up the stories for HBO's "The Pacific". His description of the Guadalcanal campaign and especially the Tenaru River fight are harrowing. And yes, the talks about the crocodiles.

[@Phoenix-xn3sf]

If it's harrowing croc-tales you're after, watch this Mark Felton episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6bUpJ-JlN6JaLc

[@Yora21]

Yeah. Saltwater crocodiles are the ones to really be worried about.

[@korbell1089]

"Are you going to mountainclimb or are you going to fight?" ~Col Kilgore possibly What did Hitler expect, he sent an alpine unit to the tallest mountain in Europe! That's like sending a group of kids to the most famous chocolate factory in the World and not expect them to lick the wallpaper.

[@stevekaczynski3793]

During the war, Felice Benuzzi, an Italian POW in Africa who was a keen mountain climber, broke out of a British prisoner of war camp with two comrades who had no mountain climbing background. They climbed Mount Kenya, visible in the distance from their camp. Once they climbed it they descended and surrendered to the British.

[@GerLeahy]

@@stevekaczynski3793 That's brilliant

[@Wilkse1]

Ive been to Dieppe and have seen first hand the natural and German defences. The attack Dieppe was a complete disaster, with the massive cliffs overlooking a shingled beach with massive walls before you even getting close to the town.

[@stevekaczynski3793]

There is a German photo I did not see shown in this episode. Dead Allied troops, probably Canadians, are lying on the shingle beach. In the distance can be seen the machine-gun emplacement that probably killed them, catching them in enfilade fire.

[@tommy-er6hh]

I read once that Dieppe Shingle was a 90% disaster - the only success was the seizure of parts from a German radar station, which led, according to the author, to Windows - the Allied radar jamming foil that helped the bombers, for a while.

[@garcalej]

It wasn’t a raid. It was a massacre. A human meat-grinder.

[@ZacharyDarkes]

@@garcalej Yup I think Lord Mountbatten should of been hung or striped of his rank those soldier's that died deserve justice for that "raid". Thankfully the Irish got him and now he answers to God.

[@ZER0ZER0SE7EN]

The Dieppe raid was controversial at the time in Canada because Canadian and not British soldiers were sent on such a dangerous and seemingly unnecessary mission. My mom grew up in Eastern Canada and remembers this was the sentiment among the adults at the time.

[@WillN2Go1]

A lot of this history seems to be the Japanese military going somewhere, and Americans working out the best way to deliver enormous quantities of supplies. It really is true what General Omar Bradley said, “Amateurs talk strategy. Professionals talk logistics." At what was Japan's thinking vis a vis American logistics? Cognitive dissonance: "Oh it's just a little armed reconnaissance." And in terms of dramatic tension, there's all those standard bits, Midway is when the Japanese advance stops and they begin losing. Nope, the Time Ghost Army has done their research and reports on what people at the time were thinking. Brilliant. (In 2018 I happened to meet Len Brace a British 'Tommy' who'd landed on Normandy on D-Day +1. I asked him, 'What was the thinking at that time? Did victory seem inevitable?' He turned away and waved me goodbye. After more than 70 years he still had PTSD. Wars start but they never end.)

[@harzzachseniorgamer5516]

"At what was Japan's thinking vis a vis American logistics?" It was not important to them. They thought that they had superior soldiers, that the US soldiers were weak and would easily surrender. Because that was the lesson they learned from fighting in China and against the British in South East Asia. Especially the conquest of Singapur, where the Japanese soldiers nearly STARVED to death while defeating a numerical superior and well equipped enemy. So when the Americans had the audacity to NOT surrender like the British in South East Asia ... they were stumped. They did not have the ressources to wage a war of attrition, they could not use the ressources of ther new territories of lack of convoy escorts and the horrible treatment of indigenous workers, they did not have a military tactical or strategic answer to counter their ressource problems and wasted so many men on fruitless suicide attacks. All they had left were variations of the Kantai Kessen strategy, where they hoped that the superior moral and fighting spirit of the japanese soldiers, air and sea men would be enought to force the US to peace. There are historians who say, that the Japansese army lost more men in the last two years to illness and starvation than actual fighting.

[@danielmocsny5066]

@@harzzachseniorgamer5516 - That last claim sounds at least semi-plausible since the Allies simply bypassed and isolated numerous Japanese island bases such as at Rabaul and Truk, turning them into virtual prison camps that never got resupplied. Japanese defenders in the stranded garrisons who survived all the Allied bombings and couldn't collect enough fish and coconuts could have run out rations before the war ended.

[@Raskolnikov70]

I'm glad Indy brought up the port facilities in Aukland being the main reason they decided to operate out of there. It's hard to describe unless you've actually been to a log base in the military, but the sheer amount of 'stuff' that combat forces require is immense, and moving it around is no joke. Moving that stuff around by hand is an all-day event and it's exhausting, if you've ever spent an entire day loading trucks with rations or ammo or vehicle parts you know what I mean. Armies these days use palletized loading systems as much as possible to move supplies rather than humping everything by hand the way they did in WWII, but that still requires heavy equipment and the fuel to run it, along with the support system to keep the forklifts and trucks running, along with a really big flat area to stick it all. Having cranes and lumpers to unload Liberty ships made it worth sailing 2000km out of the way.

[@iansneddon2956]

@@harzzachseniorgamer5516 I doubt the Japanese had no thought to logistics. But their approach was to use naval and air power to protect their lifelines while also using same to cut off their enemy's. The problem was planning on how to deliver supplies in a long drawn out combat zone when they don't have control of the air. The Japanese he plan for Guadalcanal was to build an airstrip, dig in and fortify, and cut off Allied shipping in the vicinity - giving the Allies the logistical problems of trying to maintain forces in Australia when Japan dominates the shipping route. Isolating Australia from its lifeline to USA. Which is why Guadalcanal was such a priority for US forces. Thanks to the tenacity of the 1st Marine Division, the airstrip was completed and operated by USN/USMC. Much of the naval and air operations then involved efforts to ensure/interdict supplies to the island. The naval campaign over Guadalcanal was brutal. I believe the Cactus Air Force flying off Henderson Field tipped the balance and brought Victory to the USN.

[@porksterbob]

@@harzzachseniorgamer5516 US forces did surrender in the Philippines. The Japanese also did think about logistics. The successes in the south east Asia campaign and in the Philippines was based in Japanese troops travelling light and capturing enemy supplies. This was their original plan. The Japanese troops would hit very hard early then move very fast to capture supplies from defeated allied forces. The Chinese had learned about this the hard way, and they won in Changsha in January of 1942 because they didn't try to fight the Japanese at the launching point of attack. The idea was to figure out where the Japanese were going, preposition forces along, but not across, the line of advance and the final Japanese objective, and then hit the Japanese from every direction after the Japanese had walked for a week and burned through their supplies. This was not how the allied forces in the Philippines or Malaya fought. Instead, they put formations and supplies in forward positions where the battle hardened Japanese could hit them with full force. Then the Japanese could rely on their superior speed and experience to let them bypass and surround the retreating allies.

[@gunman47]

7:17 Now would be a good time to watch the second half of the first episode of The Pacific, with the Battle of the Tenaru portrayed, along with a memorable scene of Robert Leckie taking out his M1911 pistol for a mercy killing on a Japanese soldier in the aftermath of the battle.

[@PhillyPhanVinny]

Lol I was thinking the same thing and just posted my comment for this weeks video also talking about the HBO mini series the Pacific and Band of Brothers. Which caused me to google to see if a new WW2 HBO mini series would be coming out soon. And I surprised and very happy to find out there is! It is also being made by Tom Hanks for HBO and is called "Masters of the Air" which will be about the US 8th Airforce. I was saying in my comment that I think it would be cool for Tom Hanks and HBO to do a mini series like that have been doing on WW2 covering WW1. They could have a few episodes each telling the individual tale of individual soldiers from all the countries in WW1. So a few episodes on American soldiers, then a episode on a British solider, a French one, German and Russian. I think that would be a really cool way to show WW1. Then keep the combat incredibly realistic as they have done in Band of Brothers and the Pacific.

[@gunman47]

@@PhillyPhanVinny Oh yes, I am looking forward to that new "Masters of the Air" series too set in the skies of Mainland Europe. Interestingly, it won't be distributed by HBO but rather by Apple through Apple TV+ this time though. It would be interested to have a World War I miniseries set in the Band of Brothers or The Pacific style, although I would argue that ultimately it would still boil down to current consumer demand since World War I content is still somewhat a little niche compared to the more well known World War II era.

[@PhillyPhanVinny]

@@gunman47 Gotcha that makes sense. I got Apple TV+ just to watch that new Tom Hanks WW2 movie called "Greyhound". I thought that movie was really good. Tells the tale of a Convoy mission trying to go from the US to Europe but is being hunted by German subs. Totally recommend you check it out if you have not seen it yet. Is such a underrated movie.

[@gunman47]

@@PhillyPhanVinny I have watched that one too, it is not a bad movie although there are a few inaccuracies here and there though.

[@lycaonpictus9662]

Leckie's book Helmet for my Pillow is well worth a read as well. It's one of the best memoirs written by a veteran in the Second World War, and of course along with E.B. Sledge's With the Breed at Peleliu and Okinawa it was partially used as a basis for the TV series. Interestingly enough Leckie would go on to become a historian after the war.

[@gunman47]

_"Makin Atoll - little more than sand, trees and a small Japanese Military base. Miller's reconnaissance team landed there almost a week ago. Since then - we've heard nothing. The waiting's over, we're going in. For all we know they're already dead. If what little we know about the Japanese is true, it might be better if they are."_ - Sergeant Roebuck 10:20 This week on August 17 1942, the first mission of the 2008 video game *Call of Duty: World at War* , the Semper Fi level under Private Miller begins at Makin Atoll in the Gilbert Islands. Already from the beginning, the capture and horrific torture of Private Pyle by the Japanese gives a good indication of how much darker World at War would be compared to earlier Call of Duty games. Sergeant Tom Sullivan summaries this dark tone very well, where “Tojo's at home in this shit.”

[@mariusionita266]

"Grab a rifle, we're gonna tear this place apart!"

[@gunman47]

@@mariusionita266 Roebuck: "Miller... You're okay. Thank God. We're gonna make them pay for what they've done."

[@RainingMetal]

We'd have to wait two more years until the Battle of Peleliu, where the real chunk of the Pacific campaign in that game takes place.

[@gunman47]

@@RainingMetal Yeah. Quite a number of Call of Duty series missions will happen next month though. Won't spoil much here, but I think everyone can guess which battle it probably is...

[@RainingMetal]

@@gunman47 It's that difficult sniper boss again!

[@halepauhana153]

08:22 - Loved "Fog of War!" (with the hand gestures)

[@erikgranqvist3680]

I do not think most people understand how important lubricant was in WW2. While I have zero experience in old tanks, I have been around lots of old tractors and other agricultural equipment. If you neglect to take care or the greasing points, or even try to use the equipment longer then intended between geting out the grease gun - you will get problems. Grease and oil for lubricant is incredible important. In heavy and continous use you will break down astonishing fast when bearings, seals etcetera goes dry. And back then those things dried out faster then most people would even imagine.

[@stevekaczynski3793]

In the winter of 1941/2 in front of Moscow in particular the Germans found that the lubricants in their vehicles froze solid and had to be chipped out with a knife.

[@dpeasehead]

@@stevekaczynski3793 Lacking the right lubricants can be as bad as having none at all. Growing up in a part of the country with four seasons you learned things like the difference between 20w and 30w oil and how spraying silicon into locks prevents them from freezing. I've heard that dipstick heaters are a thing in Canada...

[@erikgranqvist3680]

@@dpeasehead yupp. I grew up in Swedish Lappland. The coldest I have been ouside doing any work waw around -40. Breaking gearboxes, differentials and just about everything else due to cold is a real thing.

[@dpeasehead]

@@erikgranqvist3680 Cold kills batteries quickly and makes metal brittle. And it has unpredictable effects on all kinds of materials and equipment. It takes years of experience and the will to adapt. Texas USA during the freeze last winter is a prime example of the consequences of failure to adapt. Neighboring states which did winterize their equipment had almost no disruptions during the same cold spell. Years ago I spent several hours of a cold January afternoon standing on concrete during an inauguration. I was surprised at how the cold conducted through my boots which were rated to -30F and my special socks right to my feet. I have no idea how the Germans in Russia 1941, who for the most part had no real severe weather clothing, coped with being outdoors for weeks.

[@robertjarman3703]

Lubricant is also vital for the morale of the daily soldier.

[@traveleraz8269]

I admit I laughed out loud when Indy said "Wait, what's the prize again?"

[@inspectorfretless]

The prize is a railway, that goes through Stalingrad, then to Astrakhan, and all the way south to Baku. If you want to get oil, you need a railway so you can transport it. Plus if you get Stalingrad, you block the Volga, which is a major supply traffic line for the Russians.

[@apokalipsx25]

*Next week* Paulus: " That is just a city. " Stalingrad: " Im going to ruin this mans whole LIFE !!! "

[@theirishempire4952]

Winter: Your life is done

[@МихаилДавыдов-ь1н]

Stalingrad: "I'll turn him into a communist"

[@ppsh43]

The Battle of Alligator Creek is well depicted in the HBO series The Pacific.

[@evancrum6811]

John Bassilone also

[@johnprice7507]

That was an awesome series👌

[@williampockets]

Great scene. Hey I got movement. The whole damn creek side erupts with tracers. Great scene. The way it is described in helmet for my pillow is amazing as well. I strongly recommend reading that book if your into this stuff

[@gunman47]

Other than Call of Duty: World at War, the 2004 video game *Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault* had also covered the same Makin Atoll raid as well. In fact, they had created several levels for this raid and was far longer in length. In these levels, you play as Private Thomas Conlin, alongside fellow Marines such as Francis Minoso and James Sullivan, and rescue a recon pilot and sniper from the Japanese defenders, amongst other objectives. Watch out for the snipers waiting on top in the trees.

[@PhillyPhanVinny]

I'm hoping the COD coming out this year (COD Vangard) which is also a WW2 COD will cover the Pacific War in large amounts as it is rumored to. The Pacific front of WW2 has not been covered in games very much at all (other then the 2 you mentioned or in MP only games).

[@gunman47]

@@PhillyPhanVinny There is actually another Pacific War related video game, Medal of Honor: Rising Sun released in 2003. It is pretty memorable for the Singapore Sling mission which takes place at the Raffles Hotel in Singapore. The other places covered are pretty unique too, like Burma, Thailand and the Philippines. There was supposed to be a Rising Sun 2 sequel but it got cancelled. Other than that, yeah, there aren't really many single player video games that have covered the Pacific War thus far, unless you consider games like the Battlestations series or Men of War: Assault Squad 2 etc. I'm looking forward to Call of Duty: Vanguard which will hopefully have a fair amount of Pacific War related content.

[@PhillyPhanVinny]

@@gunman47 Yeah my brother had Medal of Honor Rising Sun on his gamecube (I had the PS2) and we used to play me, him and 2 of our friends on one team against 4 AI opponents in it. Playing the MP for that game is one of my favorite video game memories from the past. Those were the biggest battles we had played in video games to that point since I hadn't gotten my PS2 hooked up for online play yet to that point. And yeah I am also looking forward to COD Vangard a lot. I have gotten back into COD a lot since Warzone cameout. I think the game is so fun because of all the tactics and strategy that is involved in winning a game in it. I am going to be taking my lunch break at the right time so that I can play in the battle of Verdansk even that is happening tomorrow. I'm really excited to see the trailer for the new game. All the rumors for the new COD over the last week have made it sound amazing. A lot of people who are normally really critical of COD were saying that this COD will be the best COD ever made and that the graphics in the game look better then any next gen game yet showed off (better then BF 2042). It may be cool to have Indy and the team review the new COD trailer like they did for the Battlefield 1 trailer all those years ago now.

[@gunman47]

@@PhillyPhanVinny I see, cool! Coming as an old school World War II gamer and Call of Duty fan who has played almost every title from the first COD back in 2003, I will probably reserve my judgement for the new Call of Duty: Vanguard first until we see some gameplay itself since only the teaser has currently been released.

[@PhillyPhanVinny]

@@gunman47 Yeah check in tomorrow around 2 PM EST and the trailer for the new game should be up on the internet. It is supposed to be reveled at 1:30 PM EST in Warzone through a in game even that is happening.

[@WayneMoyer]

Getting the mountain means getting to yell "But I have the high ground. You know you can't win!".

[@tempo5366]

Underrated Comment

[@theirishempire4952]

Planes: *flys higher than the high ground*

[@javi009z]

John Basilone himself held of 800 Japanese soldiers at Guadalcanal!! Achievement unlocked: Medal of Honor🏅

[@2TheHandsome]

As a Canadian, the big 3 things in our textbooks (in the Maritimes anyway) were 1) Juno Beach, 2) the Battle of the Atlantic and 3) the Dieppe disaster

[@TheEvertw]

The Canadians are very warmly remembered here for the liberation of the Netherlands. I am sure other nations would like to think they have the credit for that, but the Dutch know the cry that went before their liberators: "The Canadians are coming!"

[@strongbrew9116]

Do Canadians learn about the attempt to retrieve a newer Engima machine from the German Admiralty headquarters in the town? It is one of the main reasons for the raid.

[@rare_kumiko]

Ah, poor Robert Ghormley is in the scene. Let's hope he doesn't have a nervous breakdown.

[@AwesomeDude272]

The girl in your profile picture your profile picture is pretty af

[@HistoryOfRevolutions]

"A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes" - Gotthold Ephraim Lessing

[@stevekaczynski3793]

An 18th century German writer. Unpopular with the Nazis, mainly because he wrote "Nathan der Weise" ("Nathan The Wise") which contained a positive portrayal of a Jewish character.

[@jamestheotherone742]

Whether he is "right" or not is another question.

[@brendenstuder6119]

It has come out in recent years (due to top secret documents being released) that the Dieppe raid actually had one successful objective which was the capture of German code machines. Many Canadian veterans of the Dieppe raid who thought for 70+ years that it was all for nothing were somewhat relieved by that knowledge that their friends and compatriots did not die for nothing.

[@nickdanger3802]

Source?

[@johndbro1]

This is probably the funniest episode of the entire show so far. Indy's comedic timing and energetic emotion is delightful

[@Bigrago1]

12:13 Personally I don't really believe that Dieppe helped in any way to future landing operations as this wasn't the first nor the last time the Allies would attack a port head on. Honestly it seems more like Mountbatten was just making excuses since Dieppe was his idea.

[@korbell1089]

The only thing I can think of is they were surprised that the tanks bogged down on the shale and never got off the beaches. In preperations for D Day, they sent divers out to gather samples of prospctive beaches for intensive soil analysis. Other than that, I agree, it was an unmitigated disaster and they just threw away those troops.

[@bingobongo1615]

Mountbatten was a famous bullshitter so that hurts credibility further.

[@michaelemberley2767]

@Olaf Sigurson Please explain. How is one battalion, Les Fusiliers Mont Royal, being in floating reserve equate to using Quebecois as cannon fodder?

[@bolivar2153]

@Olaf Sigurson The Canadian Government asked for the job.They were fed up having their soldiers sat around Britain doing nothing and wanted them in action. If they hadn't insisted on being sent, they could have remained sat in Britain doing nothing.

[@strongbrew9116]

Many people overlook the fact that the operation was referred to as a "raid", and not an "invasion". The raid at Dieppe was also used as a way of getting a four rotor Enigma machine without alerting the Germans to the fact that the Allies knew of its significance (This was not the only reason for the raid, but it was one of the main ones). No. 30 Commando were sent in retrieve the new version of the Enigma device, along with any new codebooks, from the German Admiralty headquarters in the town. Ian Fleming (author of the James Bond series) was present and in charge of the mission.

[@lycaonpictus9662]

If anyone is interested in the aftermath of the raid on Makin there is a rather moving video uploaded to youtube called Return to Makin Island. It's about 19 of the Marines that were killed during the raid and whose bodies could not be extracted. The raiders had asked the Butaritari natives to bury them but in the aftermath the location had been "lost" until the year 2000 when a native man was located who had been part of the burial detail in 1942. The bodies were all found to have been buried respectfully as warriors with their weapons nd equipment, and as they were being extracted for identification and reburial stateside, the elderly Butaritari man that had been part of the burial detail in the Second World War began singing the Marines' hymn as a way of paying his respects. He didn't speak English but had learned the song during the Second World War when the Marines were on Makin.

[@billythompson6725]

This is such a superb series. Literally gives a day by day and blow by blow account of everything happening from to east to west to north to south.

[@Summer-it3wh]

I feel like few things better encapsulate the Japanese inter service cooperation than the navy not telling the army that they lost half the carrier fleet.

[@stevekaczynski3793]

For me it is even more revealing of how hard the Japanese worked to suppress bad news.

[@onthatrockhewillbuildhisch1510]

At 1:55 - That is a magnificent map of the Japanese Army on the MAINLAND of New Guinea! Well done!

[@TheSanityInspector]

Great episode, and such a wonderful series. I might buy a DVD gift box of these, if one is ever put together.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you! We're very happy to see that you enjoy our work!

[@edwardblair4096]

The problem with the DVD collection is that, in order to maintain the "real-time" aspect of the series, the player is instructed to put in a 7 day pause between each episode. :-)

[@TheEvertw]

A show running (spoiler alert) almost 5 years, with weekly half-hour episodes, that is a lot of DVD's! I think a pressed DVD can hold 4 hours of video, that makes about 32 dvd's for the whole set. A (set of) USB flash drives might be more feasible.

[@TheSanityInspector]

@@TheEvertw Plus, since it will be a deluxe box set, they've got to put in a The Making Of commentary, outtakes, a booklet, posters of the hosts, and an interactive CD-ROM.

[@AdamsYoutubeAccount]

I really hope that these episodes are being archived, so they can be enjoyed in their entirety for many years.

[@jaredw9171]

Indy I give to you the highest honor I can bestow: Watching this channel while I eat dinner.

[@AngloFrancoDane]

I have read a number of accounts of Tenaru and heard my Dad's account, but this is the best information I have received about the Japanese view of the battle, both planning and aftermath. Thank you!

[@Valdagast]

Nah. Paulus has this covered. From here on it's clear sailing for the 6th Army.

[@nygarmik]

Yes, I have total confidence in him.

[@Dustz92]

Next week Stalingrad falls mark my words. If the land offensive stalls, Richthofen can just bomb the defenders to pieces.

[@TSmith-yy3cc]

Encirclements are just mass cuddles anyway.

[@larsgrotjohann6554]

Sure 😂😂😂

[@victorfrench6181]

Thanks!

[@patrickazzarella6729]

11:50 with that quote it is noted some of the newest models of the British Churchill tank that took part in the raid and their capture of some intact allowed a good study on them by the Germans

[@badbotchdown9845]

They have conclude brits tanks are craps we would easily destroying them with our tigers..

[@Raskolnikov70]

@@badbotchdown9845 It's still useful to know stuff like their speed, mileage, combat capabilites, etc... along with any weak spots in the armor so you can tell your tankers where to shoot them. It wasn't like the Germans were looking at those British tin cans for ideas on how to improve their own panzers.

[@nickdanger3802]

German Thoughts on the Churchill Tank kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqaWfHSbYrhpmcU

[@georgewilliams8448]

Thank you for another very interesting and informative video. I love history and the Time Ghost Army is doing a great job informing me of things that I didn't know and that help to provide more context to the history that is presented in the videos. Thank you again for all the time and hard work that goes into writing, producing and presenting them!

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you! Your appreciation means the world to us and we're very happy to see that you enjoy our content!

[@davidwright7193]

Calling a stream filled with salt water crocs “alligator creak” just shows that Americans never change…

[@Supergforce777]

That’s all a man from southern Alabama knows

[@Raskolnikov70]

They're more concerned with winning the battle than getting into a semantics debate over the type of reptile living in the creek. That's why they won.

[@batchestheeverskink293]

Try saying "Croc Creek" fifty times a day over the radio and you'll understand why.

[@davidwright7193]

@@Supergforce777 my point exactly

[@davidwright7193]

@@batchestheeverskink293 croc stream? Croc river? Croc Inlet?

[@18mitndi]

Loving these longer episodes. It's cool to see Indy not have to rush through the different theatres in an abbreviated way.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you! Glad you're enjoying our content!

[@mohammadalibakawi6617]

Hitler be like : Please tell me you have Oil... Konti Ol: Well yes.... But no.

[@markreetz1001]

"No oil, but we have some nice photos of the mountains....

[@mohammadalibakawi6617]

@@markreetz1001 Hitler : Aaaah, 'proceeds to staple the photo on the guy's face'

[@kurtjk01]

In all my studies of WWII, this is the first I have ever heard that the Nazis scaled Mt. Elbruz. Just proof of the great quality and depth of this series. The best WWII coverage I've ever seen.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you for your kind words of support!

[@kurtjk01]

@@WorldWarTwo Just stating facts as I see them, friends.

[@merdus69]

Dieppe is French, so it's pronounced "deeyep" - Canadians, we learn about this one in school :)

[@belbrighton6479]

The stone tribute in Newhaven, Sussex, to the fallen Canadians is a focal point of our Remembrance Day. #LestWeForget

[@NamVetBuck]

Deepsheeet is more like it ! LOL !

[@merdus69]

@@belbrighton6479 Did not know that. Thank you so much for sharing that!

[@daniels0376]

7:35 If I am not mistaken, this battle is the "Guadalcanal night battle" depicted in the HBO series "The Pacific". It was very interesting to see the context behind it and what the Japanese were planning to do

[@Blundellmemes77]

10:20 “Grab a rifle. We’re gonna tear this place apart.” You guys really need to cover some WW2 games like you did for games like “Verdun.” World at War would be really a good one to cover.

[@gunman47]

Don't forget Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault also covered the Makin Atoll Raid in far more length and detail. It is often overlooked compared to World at War.

[@trisblackshaw1640]

Excellent, as usual, in all respects, but an in-depth account of the Dieppe raid was something of an oversight. The instagram posts were fine, but something more was needed.

[@jonathanwancour5342]

I would be very interested in seeing a special or other discussion on the opposing logistics operations for Guadalcanal. This campaign was characterized by supply and reinforcement difficulties for both the US and Japan. Japan's supply difficulties by sea are well known throughout the war and the US had limited resources and experience in the Pacific theater at this time. Japan's Tokyo express is quite widely known but it is just one example of the lengths taken to keep land forces fed and equipped. The efforts to supply the island and interdict opposing supplies was arguably the most important single factor driving the course of and the result of the months-long campaign. I have seen previous little discussion of this except in the book Neptune's Inferno. Most popular sources prefer to focus on the various sea and land battles.

[@belbrighton6479]

Join Patreon and put the request in properly! #timesghostarmy

[@WorldWarTwo]

Unfortunately we have everything planned out for the rest of 1942 and such an episode is not in our content schedule. However, it is a very interesting idea and one we might cover in early 1943 when it's still relevant. It won't be specifically Guadalcanal related of course but will still have a lot of crossover.

[@VuldEdone]

"I mentioned our Instagram..." But I don't use Instagram. "But if you don't use Instagram you can watch the same thing on Facebook!" Ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah...

[@earlyriser8998]

the us victory in the first real battle in Guadalcanal cannot be overstated. There had been very few victories during the first 6 months and this was important.

[@samuelrick8382]

I love how this just clears up “The Pacific” completely and adds context to the episodes.

[@mjbull5156]

Yes, the Pacific episodes on Guadalcanal are more of an eye view account from the perspective of Leckie and Basilone. Presumably, if they did not know the greater context of the events they were in, the show does not do much to fill those gaps.

[@ZackMarrs556NAT0]

@@mjbull5156 that was how Stephen Ambrose (the guy behind BoB and The Pacific) wrote his books. It wasn't detailed, balanced accounts, objective views and different perspectives, it was all firsthand accounts, and stuff taken from memoirs, often written down many decades after the war ended.

[@luisurdiales3091]

8:20 "Why am I telling you about this small skirmish in this small island?" Because it's the firefight in the opening episode of The Pacific, that's why :v

[@johnsmead5096]

"holy jesus, look at this river!" "thats a lagoon" "is that a gator?! ey! benny! look at that over grown piece of luggage!" "thats a croc" -a newyorker in polynesia

[@vladimirvonmongol6368]

If I can count correctly, the next episode is going to be just 2 days before my birthday. This finna gonna be the best present so far

[@WorldWarTwo]

Happy early birthday!

[@Gameflyer001]

In my case, the next episode will be on my birthday.

[@vladimirvonmongol6368]

@@WorldWarTwo thank you guys for the wish!

[@vladimirvonmongol6368]

@@Gameflyer001 lucky ya mate

[@Gameflyer001]

@@vladimirvonmongol6368 Aug. 28er and Virgo ♍ squad for life.

[@craigvoigt5798]

Great addition this week WW2 gang. Appreciate your thoroughness and passion for the content.

[@gunman47]

15:40 Feels like the hype train is coming for the upcoming great battle about to happen at Stalingrad. Can't wait for next week's episode already. Also, the Western Allies will likely pick up lessons from the Dieppe Raid fiasco and maybe try again for another bigger landing in the future in Mainland Europe. Where they might do a second attempt is anyone's guess for now. It could be in Norway or Greece or maybe even Italy. Who knows? 🤔

[@badbotchdown9845]

The fiasco of Dieppe was from a huge part coming from Mountbatten he was an idiot later sended to India.

[@goughrmp]

Gunna need to deep with North Africa first.

[@RupertSound]

@@badbotchdown9845 Mountbatten supervised and took responsability for also other raids : Lofoten Isds - Archery Anklet , Claymore & the St Nazaire raids were very successful . The three first had the consequence that 300.000 German troops were tied down in Norway . The incredible daring raid of the St Nazaire drydock prevented the Nazis to refit their large battleships. This was Mountbatten 's responsability .... who else would have made it ??? Other military leaders were afraid. He approved also the deception for D Day landings and Sicilia landing ( Operation Mincemeat). It was him who made initially the decision of the D Day landing in Normandy. His tenure in India as Chief of Operations with Harry Slim as Army commander led to the recapture of Birmania ( the most difficult front possible) , Thaïland, Malaysia, Viet Nam & Singapore .... Sorry fr your opinion !! Mountbatten was a much loved chief by the soldiers and officers. The staff officers in London were jealous...

[@strongbrew9116]

@@badbotchdown9845 Many people overlook the fact that the operation was referred to as a "raid", and not an "invasion". The raid at Dieppe was also used as a way of getting a four rotor Enigma machine without alerting the Germans to the fact that the Allies knew of its significance (This was not the only reason for the raid, but it was one of the main ones). No. 30 Commando were sent in retrieve the new version of the Enigma device, along with any new codebooks, from the German Admiralty headquarters in the town. Ian Fleming (author of the James Bond series) was present and in charge of the mission.

[@TrainLordJC]

Another excellent episode as are all your episodes, having watched each one for the past couple of years. Having read history for many years (before the internet when books ruled education) and having visited so many battlesites in the US and Europe including all the DDay beaches etc I am quite astounded at your incredible level of knowledge about each facet of this particular war at all fronts on such a regular basis. You, Indy, are indeed a pleasure to listen to and learn from and at 70 years, with less reading now, I enjoy your presentations to revise and learn even more about this huge episode of world history. And as we watch the unfortunate happenings going on in Afghanistan we are witness once again to the cruelties and injustices of war and the future history that that conflict will be. How will that history be written in the history books of the future? Thank you again.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you very much for your support!!

[@alansewell7810]

"Again, what's the prize [of capturing Stalingrad]?" I think both sides viewed it as akin to our Civil War siege of Vicksburg. Neither city had intrinsic importance, but were strategic prizes in that they controlled access to the central rivers in each country. The Russians used to say, "There's no land east of the Volga," meaning that if they lost Stalingrad, there was no place to fall back to defend east of there. If the city fell, the Germans would cut the country in two, choking its river commerce, and then moving north and south along its banks to cement their chokehold on the rest of the country. Same as with the Confederates at Vicksburg. When they lost Vicksburg, their country was split in two and could not recover. When the Soviets held Stalingrad, their country was saved. Both sides sensed the battle would be the military, strategic, and moral turning point of the war, hence the titanic battle for the place.

[@caryblack5985]

I would have to add Stalingrad was a very important industrial city producing many tank, artillery and other armaments.

[@typxxilps]

Really that easy ? Imagine the germans had retreated secretly to mainland Italy all the 350.000 that capitulated in may 1943 ? Italy would be defended by those that were already there and the 350.000 and its sources could have been moved to Stalingrad. Would have been just a longer war in the east and would not change that much except they wouuld have been able to occupy and repair the dwells to get oil supplies but 350.000 is a huge army and those to supply is a lot easier in Stalingrad than in El Alamein. Check the route from Hamburg or Frankfurt over Italy and Sicily to Lybia and then El Alamein. Stalingrad is closer for sure.

[@tigertank06]

But would it have changed anything if the Germans had won and was the war lost once the Germans lost Stalingrad?

[@MemoryOfTheAncestors]

In fact, Tsaritsyn (future Stalingrad, which today is called Volgograd) was also a very impornant city during the Russian Civil War 1917-1922, the largest and one of the key battle of that war took place there (250,000 of Whites and 160,000 of Reds, with irrecoverable losses of 130,000 and 80,000 respectively). Tsaritsyn was a large industrial outpost of the Reds in southern Russia, with a large percentage of the proletariat in the city's population. At that time, Stalin, together with his friend Voroshilov, commanded the long-term defense of the city and its recapture from the White Army, which is why the city received his name.

[@alansewell7810]

@@tigertank06 Looking back retrospectively, it seems the Soviets had enough resources to shelter behind the Urals and continue the war as a stalemate indefinitely under the direst circumstances, at least until the summer of 1945 when Germany would have been flattened by atomic bombs regardless of the outcome of the conventional war. However, in 1942 it looked like the Soviet Union was on the verge of collapse, with the Germans running rampant between Voronezh and the Caucasus. If the Germans had held on to Stalingrad, they would have blockaded the Volga, whose shipping traffic was said to equal ten railroads. No more oil, meat, fruits and vegetables coming into central and northern Russia to keep the armies and civil population on their feet. The Germans would have used 1943 to tighten their grip on the Caucasus and invade the Tambov / Saratov area northeast of Stalingrad, which contained the last of the Soviet oil fields and some of the last farm country. Maybe the Soviets could have held out long enough to prevail in a grinding war of attrition even with those losses, but it would have put them on the knife-edge of defeat. The Soviets and Germans sensed that, and both threw everything they had into the Stalingrad maelstrom.

[@SeveredLegs]

This is a really solid episode across the board.

[@PhillyPhanVinny]

We are now at the point of WW2 covered in the great HBO WW2 mini-series "The Pacific". The Pacific along with it's sister series "Band of Brothers" are I'd say the 2 most historically accurate WW2 depictions of battle ever created out of both movies and TV shows. If you have never seen the Pacific I highly recommend it. If you liked Band of Brothers you will like the Pacific. They are both created by the same people, Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg and the rest of the same staff (Spielberg was not involve din the work on the Pacific). These 2 of course also worked on 2 of the other great WW2 movies in "Saving Private Ryan" and "Schindler's List" (a movie that will still make me cry every time that I see it). I would love to see them make another WW2 mini series like the Pacific or Band of Brothers. I also think it would be cool to see them do a mini series like those 2 for WW1. I think it would be cool if they did individual episodes telling the stories of individual soldiers like in the Pacific for WW1 but in each episode maybe cover a different nation. So some American episodes (that is the biggest audience and who they would be selling the show to as the primary audience) but then also I would like to see British, French, German and Russian episodes as well. The success of movies like 1917 and Dunkirk shows again that a war movie does not have to be about Americans for it to have financial success. Also just found out that there is a new WW2 HBO miniseries by Tom Hanks coming out soon called "Masters of the Air" which will be about the US 8th Air Force that fought in Europe during WW2.

[@tredbobek]

I haven't seen The Pacific in a while, but when he started talking about japanese soldiers moving along the coast with swords and bayonets, I immediately remembered the night battle from the series, where they try again during the day. Awesome series

[@stc3145]

Yeah. When Indy talked about the Japanese storming the American positions with bayonets and swords. I could just imagine John Basilone and Bob Leckie with their Browning 1917 MGs

[@danielmocsny5066]

I liked the Pacific and Band of Brothers but the jerky cam fad ruins all the battle scenes. I can't wait for Hollywood to get over the ridiculous idea that you have to strap the camera to a paint mixer to make combat seem convincing. But I may not live long enough to see that. Eventually video players may have built-in stabilization. It's amazing that engineers worked so hard to create stable images and some moron in post decides no, we need to make this unwatchable.

[@Rahel_Rashid]

I want HBO to make one about Korea. A truly forgotten war!

[@guyh9992]

Accurate except that it completely wrote out the Australians and US Army in New Guinea. The Australian civilians kept thanking the Marines because "Our boys are in North Africa" which was a complete fabrication as they were in New Guinea apart from the 9th Division which had returned by January 1943 anyway.

[@pocketmarcy6990]

The anticipation for next week is intense

[@indianajones4321]

So Germany now has the high ground

[@Shauma_llama]

😆

[@Gameflyer001]

But will they underestimate the Allies' power?

[@dougclark4761]

Another fine and engrossing episode: Appointment TV at its best. I feel obliged to point out Indy's errant pronunciation of the coastal French village, Dieppe, which was the target of Britain's ill-fated Operation Jubilee. The correct pronunciation of Dieppe is "dee-EPP." You guys are the best.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you for your kind words Doug, we appreciate it! And I can assure you that since this episode came out, our dear Mr Neidell has become acutely aware of the correct pronunciation of Dieppe. 😉

[@Derecq]

The main and top secret purpose of the Dieppe raid was to capture German Naval code books from their headquarters in the town. It could have done with a commando raid but then the Germans would have realised the code books had been taken but if the building was destroyed as part of the overall assault it wouldn't have been so obvious. In the end the commandoes didn't find the right building in all confusion of the battle.

[@gwtpictgwtpict4214]

That's often touted as the reason behind the raid, I'm not convinced. Was it one of many objectives? I'd say yes. I doubt it was the only one. Britain's first capture of an enigma machine and associated code books was in May 1941 and captures of either or both continued during the rest of the war.

[@strongbrew9116]

@@gwtpictgwtpict4214 May 1941 was the three rotor Enimga. The British wanted to get the new four rotor machine which they knew they could get from the German Admiralty headquarters in Dieppe. Not the only main objecive, but an extremely important one for the overall war in the Atlantic and vital for any future invasion of the coast of France.

[@tomislavkefecek4443]

Another fantastic episode, with each and every episode i learn more and more.

[@stephenconroy5908]

Mountbatten talking out of his behind in saying Dieppe provided lessons for future ops. The British had already successfully launched amphibious operations in Norway (small scale then growing) and at-scale in Madagascar. All worked out fine. On the fantastic channel of Dr Alexander Clarke (give him a follow!), a video on British amphibious exercises of Sri Lanka in the 1920s using Ghurkas reveals that it led to a memo that alluded to the need for a portable harbour for the beach to supply landing forces. Churchill also issued a memo on piers for beaches as far back as *May 1942*, stating they had to float and that "the difficulties will argue for themselves". Classic British understatement if there ever was! So the narrative that Dieppe was "a vital lesson" for the Allies is misplaced, as they were either already building up the capability or working on ways to upscale it for an eventual Channel-crossing. The main lesson of Dieppe? Keep Mountbatten away from operations, maybe?

[@kamaile3031217]

Yes! Exactly!

[@Palpatine001]

Hey, the home town got a mention this week 2:18 - got to do our part for the Pacific War Effort

[@sirkowski]

Dieppe is a very infamous name in Canada.

[@m.a.118]

Like "Dunkirk" for Britain, "Pearl Harbour" for Americans... or "Pretty much everything up to 1943" for the Soviets.

[@strongbrew9116]

Many people overlook the fact that the operation was referred to as a "raid", and not an "invasion". The raid at Dieppe was also used as a way of getting a four rotor Enigma machine without alerting the Germans to the fact that the Allies knew of its significance (This was not the only reason for the raid, but it was one of the main ones). No. 30 Commando were sent in retrieve the new version of the Enigma device, along with any new codebooks, from the German Admiralty headquarters in the town. Ian Fleming (author of the James Bond series) was present and in charge of the mission. The Canadians paid dearly for the operation.

[@theoneduckson2312]

Fantastic acting with today's phone call Indy. That confused look on your face after being told by our friend that the Japanese would be attacking with Bayonets and Sabers. Very interesting.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Ha ha. Thanks!

[@CarlosZig]

Amazing episode guys! Just perfection as always! I was wondering, do you guys have plans to get the instagram posts to a wiki of some sort? Or at least a site with all the collection of posts and pictures. The instagram posts are just perfection, put trying to find something specific is sometimes hard, if you guys could achieve that on an site with a search tool and a day-by-day timeline, it would be the most powerful collection of articles to day on the web. Cheers from Brazil and can't wait for the defence of stalingrad and operation Uranus (Spoilers hahahah)

[@billd.iniowa2263]

Thought something had happened to the channel. I waited, but it didnt come up on my feed. Checked my subscriptions. There I found it. Then had to look thru all your playlists. Finally got to watch. Did putting the word swastika in the title cause KZbin to shove you under the rug? Dammit, I'm a freakin Time Ghost contributor! First time its happened.

[@Violincase]

A pedant writes: Dieppe is pronounced "Dee-Epp", not "Deep".

[@peterh5165]

Another good video! Love all the old footage of military equipment you show on the channel.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you! We're very happy to hear that you enjoyed this video!

[@steverennie5787]

Love how you glossed over how the Dieppe (its DEE-epp... not "deep") raid was actually cover for the retrieval of the Nazi's newest Enigma machine and its reference books. Way more important than what you've let on.

[@Southsideindy]

I glossed over the raid in general here because we cover it for two days on our instagram day by day coverage, but I was unaware of that until right now anyhow. I see that an article from May in the Guardian about a new book that covers this, and I shall have to get said book (which apparently was published in late May this year). It should be an interesting read, but beyond that thanks for the info- this episode was written in June and filmed in July and I was unaware of the change in historiography. Once I read the book I'll work it into the series somehow. Thanks again.

[@Southsideindy]

Book ordered!

[@kamaile3031217]

@@Southsideindy I would also recommend Brian Loring Villa's "Unauthorized Action: Mountbatten and the Dieppe Raid". It's the best researched book by a Canadian historian on the planning behind the raid and how the British Chiefs of Staff "in the midst of a war that...seemed lost - acquiesced in the ill-fated raid" (quoted from the back cover).

[@gwtpictgwtpict4214]

No. Capturing an enigma machine was one of the many objectives of the Dieppe raid but it was not its primary purpose. Think it through, if you want to pinch an enigma machine do you send a small covert team in to snatch one from an isolated location, or do you send 6000 men plus tanks, Naval and air cover to raid a defended, fortified, heavily garrisoned port?

[@kamaile3031217]

@@gwtpictgwtpict4214 You are quite correct. I've been studying Canadian military history for over 20 years, and this is the first time I've come across that aspect. I'm sure it was a consideration, but there's an awful lot more politics going on behind the scenes in the British and Canadian commands that feature significantly in this raid.

[@Frank-the-tanky]

hey there love your series keep it up! also i just wanna say that in your playlist for this series you added this one but you forgot to add the last 2 (154 and 155) it would definitely help other people who are just finding this series follow along. just letting you know again thank you guys for everything.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you for your kind words of support, Frank!

[@Frank-the-tanky]

@@WorldWarTwo you're welcome

[@WorldWarTwo]

Hey again Frank! You're absolutely right about the missing episodes, thank you for the heads up! They've been added to the playlists now, so all should be good.👍

[@warhorse03826]

give the seabees some hand tools..they'll have fully equipped harbors and cargo handling equipment ready in a month or so...

[@craigparmenter9763]

My fathers cousin Captain Donald Skerrett was with the Royal Hamilton Light Infantry. He was involved with the Dieppe Raid. He was initially listed as missing in action and then later reported killed in action. It was told to the family he was wounded and loaded onto a landing craft which was then hit with shell fire. His body was never recovered. He was married but never had any children. My brother and I have some of his ribbons and awards for his military service. I just wanted to share his story.

[@WorldWarTwo]

We're very thankful that you decided to share his story with us! May he rest in peace.

[@g7alger]

Hold on! Wasn’t the Makin raid under the command of Evans Carlson? 1st Raiders was under Merritt Edson landed on Tulagi. 2nd under Carlson. Both will bake their way onto Guadalcanal soon. Roosevelt was Carlson’s executive officer. Roosevelt would eventually command 4th Raiders later in the war.

[@g7alger]

Also, though the raid was a tactical victory (and like you mentioned a long term failure) it was a giant cluster f***.

[@glypnir]

I'm shocked that this little oversight didn't light up the comments page. I guess I'm just a Pacific War history nut. And my dad was a communications corporal and eventually a sergeant in the Marines. He strung lots of phone wire, and got to encounter lots of brass, including Mike Edson, if not Evans Carlson. Here's hoping that they get Edson right (spoiler alert) After missing Carlson, and whatever the Guadalcanal arms issue was, I suspect that Germans are almost as ignorant about the Pacific War as most Americans are about Russia. I like to say that my dad had the same job as Hitler did in WW I, but he got promoted, which Hitler didn't.

[@WorldWarTwo]

If you have any stories about what your dad did in the war, we'd love to hear them!

[@glypnir]

@@WorldWarTwo he didn’t talk about it much, and he didn’t describe anything grand and heroic, although I think that just functioning relatively well in those conditions was heroic. He joined up out of high school, possibly to escape his 5 sisters, his minister dad, and his screen porch sleeping area in a small town in the Oregon high desert. As the only boy he got to chop all the wood for the stove. His summer jobs were either pulling boards off the green chain at the local sawmill or shoveling gravel to ballast the local railroad tracks. During the school year he played at least 5 sports and at 6 feet tall was apparently the small town hero. He did mention blocking punts. I did see a teenaged punk try to punch him once. Teen aged punk was apparently instantaneously on his back with my dad sitting on top of him. Very late in my dad’s life, under the influence of Parkinson’s dementia, he confessed to me that his gunnery instructor told him he probably was going to wash out due to bad shooting. That was right around the time of Tarawa. I don’t know if that had an effect, but the Marine Corp found a spot for a big strong smart guy who was not a good marksman. They sent him to telephone school so he could carry a carbine and a big spool of wire and climb trees. He said he was not a good pole climber, but was good at trees. He told me this when I was a teenager, so I pointed to a tree at said I bet he couldn’t climb it. He went up and down amazingly quickly. He finished in the top ten percent of his class so they made him an instant corporal. He said it was easy to be in the top ten percent, which was a definitely a comment on the intelligence of Marine recruits, but it should be tempered by the fact that he got a PhD in organic chemistry on the GI bill after the war. He joined the 2nd Marine Division up in the Saddle on the Big Island of Hawaii. This is a relatively cold high altitude spot which was chosen, at least in part, to help the Marines suffering from malaria safe from recurrence. In the 2nd Division history there are complaints about the cold, living in tents, and the Army initially only supplying one blanket per man. I asked my dad, and he said it was warmer than a screen porch in the high desert. His first action was on Saipan, and he said they had so much redundancy as a result of the slaughter on the beach in Tarawa that they had too many people, so he got assigned to a different unit. He said he hated artillery fire the most, but that could be from Okinawa as well. I think it was on Taiwan that he shot his only person. It was a starving Japanese soldier, apparently armed only with a pocket knife who wouldn’t surrender. The enlisted men were trying hard not to kill him, but the lieutenant said “End it”, so several of them shot the Japanese soldier and killed him. He also described a situation where the Japanese civilians were jumping off the cliffs to commit suicide. There was a little old lady who couldn’t bring herself either to jump or to walk to safety with the Marines. Someone else picked up the old lady, and my dad took the purse. He said the lady was very reluctant to part with it. At the aid station, someone more knowledgeable opened up the purse and took out the grenade. He also apparently went ashore very early on Tinian. That’s enough for now.

[@g7alger]

@@glypnir After my initial shock, I’m not that surprised by the mistake. If I wasn’t a former Marine or didn’t do my masters on Marine Raiders/special ops, I wouldn’t have known much about Makin.

[@NoMoreCrumbs]

If I recall correctly, the first episode of The Pacific, the companion series to Band of Brothers, includes the Battle of Alligator Creek

[@RapturianCitizen]

Step 1: Offensive Burst to Stalingrad Step 2: ??? Step 3: PROFIT

[@rabihrac]

Great episode, it made me feel as much suspense as in a movie. Big cheers Indy!

[@hallamhal]

"It's over Russia, I have the high ground!" "You underestimate my power..."

[@sylviahofer1246]

That intro was utterly brilliant!

[@jaxwagen4238]

You know things are not going well for the Nazis when Hitler is not happy with a symbolic feat like planting a flag on a mountain

[@themagicrabbit1877]

I've always thought that Evans Carlson commanded the 2nd Raider Battalion at Makin. Then again, the caption on Roosevelt's portrait says second-in-command, so maybe something just got confused in the script and it doesn't matter. Anyway, excellent episode as always!

[@stevekaczynski3793]

The detail of Marines being left behind and the killed was echoed in 1975, when Marines were landed to take the ship Mayaguez, which had been seized by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. In that operation three Marines were left behind and the Khmer Rouge killed them. I remember reports at the time depicting it as an American success but I do not remember the detail of the three Marines and it may have been suppressed at the time.

[@g7alger]

100% Roosevelt was 2ic during Makin and the long patrol on Guadalcanal. He would later go on to command 4th Raider battalion.

[@mariusionita266]

15:57 Dunno what stings harder: the cold-heart fact of the statement or that I have no proper way to counter it.

[@jamestheotherone742]

@17:38 Securing the southern end of the Arkhangelsk-Astrakhan line and at at least checking one of the boxes on Plan Barbarossa?

[@bragr_]

I wish they would post the day by day somewhere else as well. You can't look at Instagram without an account.

[@richardbourke9412]

I knew a Bavarian guy. A keen mountaineer pre-war, drafted into the Mountain Division. He was high in the Caucasus and probably involved in the flag-raising featured this week. They enountered no resistance that high, fortunately for him. He considered himself lucky to be transferred later to Italy and away from the eastern front.

[@timl.b.2095]

I love the foreshadowing about that city, what's it called? Oh yeah, Stalingrad. Probably nothing for the Nazis to worry about.

[@Supergforce777]

They will nazi what’s coming

[@Raskolnikov70]

Or as I like to call it, "the speedbump on the road to Astrakhan". I'm sure they'll get some nice pictures standing on the Volga while they're there, but the Wehrmacht won't be staying for long.

[@commandernightstrike]

The Dieppe Raid left an indelible scar on the psyche of the Canadian Military; many are to blame for it, but the scar remains

[@strongbrew9116]

Many people overlook the fact that the operation was referred to as a "raid", and not an "invasion". The raid at Dieppe was also used as a way of getting a four rotor Enigma machine without alerting the Germans to the fact that the Allies knew of its significance (This was not the only reason for the raid, but it was one of the main ones). No. 30 Commando were sent in retrieve the new version of the Enigma device, along with any new codebooks, from the German Admiralty headquarters in the town. Ian Fleming (author of the James Bond series) was present and in charge of the mission.

[@blueboats7530]

The Marines saw alligators because they desperately wished they were in Florida instead

[@stevekaczynski3793]

Probably. A little bit of Americana. Centuries earlier English settlers called a North American bird a robin, because it had a red patch on its chest. It was no relation to the robins found in Britain but calling it one made them feel less home-sick.