162 - This is Russia, The Soviet Thermopylae - WW2 - October 2, 1942

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@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Indy mentions the Axis war on shipping, which for the first time is failing to sink more tonnage of Allied ships than they produced. This means they are now losing this war, as unless the trend is negative then the Allies will eventually have a larger shipping fleet than the Germans will be able to sink. This is victory in no small part thanks to the US entry into the war, increasing the total number of ships needed to be sunk and providing an extremely safe and wealthy base from which to produce more shipping. So now that the US is involved and the Germans are running out of fuel, this U Boat war feels like its lost for the Axis. Or are there options still available to the Germans? After the war Winston Churchill famously wrote "the only thing that ever really frightened me during the war was the U-boat peril". But historians Dan van der Vat and Clay Blair have argued that this was an exaggeration and that in fact the vast majority of shipping to Britain arrived unscathed even during some of the fiercest German raiding. So we ask you: what role did, and could have, German shipping raiding played in bringing about peace with Britain?
@pnutz_2
@pnutz_2 3 жыл бұрын
sorry about this, but 'losing'
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Fixed, sorry!
@Jay-ho9io
@Jay-ho9io 3 жыл бұрын
You have an wehraboo asshole posting low in the comments.
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not on instagram and don't plan to be but you ought to include links thereto if you want more people to visit it. krasNAHya ahkt-YAH-burr krasniy is masculine, krasnaya is feminin krasniya is just very confused.
@caryblack5985
@caryblack5985 3 жыл бұрын
In my many comments I have neglected to express my admiration for your hard work and commitment to objective history. You have taken on a huge task and you deserve all the praise you have received for your work. I note that there are continual improvements in the presentations and look forward to even more. Thank you for what you have done and will continue to do.
@C.Chandler_May
@C.Chandler_May 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the greatest documentary series on KZbin.
@atzako
@atzako 3 жыл бұрын
If you are into history I would recommned you YT channel called TIK, he is currently creating super super detailed depiction of Stalingrad battle.
@C.Chandler_May
@C.Chandler_May 3 жыл бұрын
@@atzako cheer's! Love bald & bankrupt as well. Check out Peter santenello.
@KoSoS_BO92
@KoSoS_BO92 3 жыл бұрын
You are wrong! This is the best documentaire series!!
@Raskolnikov70
@Raskolnikov70 3 жыл бұрын
Probably? Them's fighting words.....
@gunman47
@gunman47 3 жыл бұрын
@@C.Chandler_May bald & bankrupt is good too, I like his many videos of showing places in Eastern Europe, especially in ex-Soviet areas or eras.
@stanbrekston
@stanbrekston 3 жыл бұрын
one of the great benefits of this series, is that it gives both the 'tactical' & 'strategic' situations.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for supporting our content!
@Atesz222
@Atesz222 3 жыл бұрын
Paulus: This is madness! Zhukov: Madness..... THIS IS STALINGRAD!
@b4nterontilt
@b4nterontilt 3 жыл бұрын
*Chuikov
@Raskolnikov70
@Raskolnikov70 3 жыл бұрын
"Our stukas will blot out the sun!" - until they run out of fuel, that is.
@LuanMower55
@LuanMower55 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raskolnikov70 all the better! We'll fight in the rubble!
@moosemaimer
@moosemaimer 3 жыл бұрын
Please stop kicking people into the gulag of death.
@karlmuller3690
@karlmuller3690 3 жыл бұрын
@@moosemaimer - Witch side? Whitch side shoud stop "kicking people into die"? BOTH sides want to WIN, and WINNING a WAR unfortunately entails at least SOME of the Combatants taking part in it, to DIE. If this is too SHOCKING FOR YOU to HANDLE, then may I suggest the "Childrens Funtime Play Hour Channel" as an alturnitive for you?
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 3 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: The burning oil incident actually forced Chuikov to abandon his second headquarters of the battle. He had to do that often during the fight. But hey he liked to keep his headquarters close to the fighting.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 3 жыл бұрын
He was lucky not to get killed transiting from one untenable HQ to another one.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevekaczynski3793---You might be right.
@bernardobiritiki
@bernardobiritiki 3 жыл бұрын
Like a true leader, fighting with his troops
@Icarusdecending82
@Icarusdecending82 3 жыл бұрын
Chuikov was a certified bad ass.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 3 жыл бұрын
@@Icarusdecending82---I won't deny that.
@SamAronow
@SamAronow 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the Stabilization of the Cost of Living Act is why healthcare in the US is employer-based. Companies needed to find incentives other than wage increases to find workers during the wartime labor shortages, and they settled on health insurance.
@lynnwood7205
@lynnwood7205 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information.
@jackcoleman5955
@jackcoleman5955 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly right.
@dongately2817
@dongately2817 3 жыл бұрын
Universal Healthcare SHOULD help increase wages in the US if its ever adopted. Premiums for employer based healthcare continue to rise and relieving employers, especially small and medium sized employers, of this burden would free up money for employers who could then increase wages. If done correctly this would more than make up for any tax increases caused by universal healthcare.
@NamVetBuck
@NamVetBuck 3 жыл бұрын
@@dongately2817 As a veteran ( VA healthcare available ) and my pockets being picked for my entire 45 year working career for the Medicare scam...NO THANK YOU to " universal healthcare "...now take yer political left wing drivel someplace else than here !
@dongately2817
@dongately2817 3 жыл бұрын
@@NamVetBuck - How about UBI?
@gunman47
@gunman47 3 жыл бұрын
This week, on October 1 1942, the *Bell P-59 Airacomet jet fighter* , the first jet fighter produced by the United States, makes its first flight. The engine for this aircraft was based on a copy of a donated British jet engine as the British were more advanced than the United States in this area. However, the aircraft was still underpowered and ultimately played no part in any combat, though it did lay the foundation for later generations of US jet aircraft.
@BlackBanditXX
@BlackBanditXX 3 жыл бұрын
Let's not bandy words, it was a piece of crap. Underpowered, unstable (for gunnery) at speeds in excess of 290Mph, and was mechanically unreliable. It was a good thing we didn't need it.
@wolfi9933
@wolfi9933 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlackBanditXX It was the US first jet, comparable to the Heinkel He 178 and Gloster E.28/39 so it was not directly meant to be a real fighter, but more of an evaluation/test plane
@firingallcylinders2949
@firingallcylinders2949 3 жыл бұрын
Neat
@konstantinriumin2657
@konstantinriumin2657 3 жыл бұрын
It did take part in many combat missions in War Thunder theatre of operations, where it proved a capable turnfighter, true bane of Zero fighter.
@jpjpjp453
@jpjpjp453 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlackBanditXX Lay off the video games. Basically the damn thing was a technology demonstrator.
@stoffls
@stoffls 3 жыл бұрын
Finally it looks like the tide is turning. Ok, as a historian I know about the outcome of these battles and of the war but I actually never studied it in this great detail. And hats off for the overlap with the "war on humanity" at the end - this is such an important part of the german war economy and as Sparty always says: Never forget!
@2639theboss
@2639theboss 3 жыл бұрын
Um....I don't think you need to be a historian to know the outcome of ww2.
@EnigmaEnginseer
@EnigmaEnginseer 3 жыл бұрын
@@2639theboss You’d be surprised how little some people know about the Second World War
@mariepearl3575
@mariepearl3575 3 жыл бұрын
@@2639theboss put on the song called hey oh yes go oh my God
@xberman
@xberman 3 жыл бұрын
I still don't see the axis loosing anywhere, but rather a stabilization of fronts.... the only axis territory occupied by the allies is Italian East Africa while their enemies still hold onto most of the western part of the URSS, France, the low countries, Norway, huge chunks of China and the Indo-pacific... if anything, at this point, you can only say that the Germans and the Japanese have been shown not to be completely unbeatable ... They are far from losing
@cass7448
@cass7448 3 жыл бұрын
@@xberman But in a war where one side has a decisive logistical advantage, the stabilisation of the front by default means that side is winning because they will, given enough time, overwhelm the enemy. Anything less than a rapid and sustainable Axis advance means the Axis are losing.
@davidroman1342
@davidroman1342 3 жыл бұрын
My dad would have loved this channel. He was 15 years old at Stalingrad then went on to Berlin . This channel Is miles better than history channel. More information. More exciting. Indy you should have your own tv channel. 👍 🇬🇧.
@phil_cassidy
@phil_cassidy 3 жыл бұрын
Would have.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 3 жыл бұрын
@@phil_cassidy Be quiet.
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 3 жыл бұрын
Did your dad like chocolate?
@davidroman1342
@davidroman1342 3 жыл бұрын
@@yourstruly4817 lol I will say yes. Why
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidroman1342 Just a joke, because of the Russian kid that helped the German sniper in "Duel: Enemy at the Gates"
@thomasmcmahon4881
@thomasmcmahon4881 3 жыл бұрын
This series has added to my appreciation of Chuikov as a commander of the highest order. Others may have been more innovative, bold or dynamic but I don’t think anyone in the war was as resolute, adaptable or personally fearless. A talismanic leader like that can make a huge difference.
@bernardobiritiki
@bernardobiritiki 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure his men share that sentiment, he was a very liked commander because of the way he was always near the men
@advisorynotice
@advisorynotice 2 жыл бұрын
You can't say that because there were many commanders in this war it's hard to point out.
@johncmitchell4941
@johncmitchell4941 Жыл бұрын
Any good series acknowledges Chuikov. I'm sure we'll se more here in the next episode ... or two ... or ...
@darkorodic638
@darkorodic638 3 жыл бұрын
I think Rzhev still deserves at least a special.
@johnmann8619
@johnmann8619 3 жыл бұрын
I am hoping that Operation Mars gets the attention it deserves when it comes up soon. Rzhev and the 100s of thousands that died there deserve as much credit as those in Stalingrad or any other front.
@m7md7100
@m7md7100 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnmann8619 it was just a diversion so the germans dont send replacements to stalingrand front
@ДанилаОгородов
@ДанилаОгородов 3 жыл бұрын
@@m7md7100 no. It was a major offensive with more men and two times more tanks deployed than in “Uranus”. “Mars” was definitely an independent operation.
@NoMoreCrumbs
@NoMoreCrumbs 3 жыл бұрын
Star Media has an episode on it in their series World War 2 in the East. Great show the whole way through
@elmojo9591
@elmojo9591 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Rhzev saw some really blood fighting, but its overshadowed in history by the battle at Stalingrad.
@bungobox7454
@bungobox7454 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you mentioned the Rzhev area in your main video. I know Stalingrad draws all the attention, but the forces soon to be launched against 9th Army in Operation Mars by Western and Kalinnin Fronts are truly massive. The aim of Mars was the total destruction of German 9th Army at Rzhev, and was to be followd up by Operation Jupiter, which would destroy the whole of Army Group Centre. The offensive was due to start on 12th October, but bad weather would postpone it, for now...
@guhalakshmiratan5566
@guhalakshmiratan5566 3 жыл бұрын
IIRC, Operation Uranus was supposed to be the strategic 'diversion' for Operation Mars.
@Riverbed_Dreaming
@Riverbed_Dreaming 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually pretty intense. Hours matter, metres are the name of the game and everything switches around day after day, night after night.
@jdee8407
@jdee8407 Жыл бұрын
That dog truck perfectly illustrates how the trucks are going to inactive Italian units. They find such great clips for this show.
@perihelion7798
@perihelion7798 3 жыл бұрын
I think most people believe we are living in tumultuous and chaotic times. However, the world in 1942 was writhing in death and agony. History can give us perspective, along with examples and warnings. I hope folks pay attention to history, and to current events as well. Let's not devolve into violence and chaos once again. To be free is to be informed.
@dongately2817
@dongately2817 3 жыл бұрын
If only more people thought this way.....
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 3 жыл бұрын
Depends how you look at it. Panicky headlines about Covid have claimed it is as bad or worse than "Spanish flu". Yet the average age at death of sufferers from the latter was 28 or 29. The average age at death from Covid is 80 or thereabouts.
@perihelion7798
@perihelion7798 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevekaczynski3793 80, PLUS a slew of other issues.
@crowbasen3293
@crowbasen3293 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevekaczynski3793 lost three of my friends when I served as a volunteer for a hospital my mom works at. They were 19, 20, and 20 respectively. The virus itself is not that deadly if by ITSELF, but they trigger other conditions within your body that may result in deaths, ex. Athsma. All of my deceased friends above had asthma sadly. I survived the virus, but it took me a month to recover. Don't underestimate the virus. People fear it for a reason.
@crowbasen3293
@crowbasen3293 3 жыл бұрын
And this was before we had vaccines (mid 2020). Nowadays the rate of death and infection is dropping rapidly thanks to vaccines. We still have it better than what folks in 1918 had, but discipline is still necessary to ensure your loved ones are safe from the virus. It's still not over yet, but we're getting there quickly.
@dainironfoot5198
@dainironfoot5198 3 жыл бұрын
Quick thing to point out, Friedrich Paulus never had "von" in his name, as he was not actually from a noble family.
@michaelkovacic2608
@michaelkovacic2608 3 жыл бұрын
This is a common misconception, even the Soviets adressed him as von Paulus after taking him prisoner.
@cheriefsadeksadek2108
@cheriefsadeksadek2108 3 жыл бұрын
Mistakes happen
@petrhouzar9551
@petrhouzar9551 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkovacic2608 This was probably done on purpose. Because "von" sounds like he was some evil Prussian noble. I remember communist propaganda pre-1990 and they used "von" all the time. I learned much later it was wrong.
@michaelkovacic2608
@michaelkovacic2608 3 жыл бұрын
@@petrhouzar9551 very interesting, thank you!
@davidwong4
@davidwong4 3 жыл бұрын
I hear this misconception all the time, maybe because people hear/read the three Army Group commanders and other generals are almost all von.
@javi009z
@javi009z 3 жыл бұрын
You finally covered a little bit of the Rzhev Meat Grinder. You should cover it more often, especially when Operation Mars kicks in...
@gregom1
@gregom1 3 жыл бұрын
I can't rid myself of the thought of how every second, every word in this video depicts a dire suffer for those people, from both sides, who fought with everything they had for another meter, another room or street corner. The immense pain that is reduced to a few words about strategy. We can only imagine what they went through and the sacrifices that were made.
@oldmanriver1955
@oldmanriver1955 3 жыл бұрын
My father was a soldier in the Australian 2/33rd Battalion, 25th Brigade at Isurava in that advance you mentioned. He completed the advance and finished his war at Battle of Gona/Buna.
@joshualetchford2034
@joshualetchford2034 3 жыл бұрын
May I ask, did he survive? From my memory, we suffered absolutely horrendous casualties at Gona/Buna.
@oldmanriver1955
@oldmanriver1955 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshualetchford2034 I am last of three and I was born in 1955, so yes! Some of the battalions were harder hit than others. They started the advance with over 600 and finished at Buna/Gona with 240+. Most of the missing were medical evacuation. Dad had malaria but recovered. He took grenade shrapnel in the 7 Div. advance into Vichy Syria. Spent 1943 - to Jan 1945 in base duties because of the recurrence of malaria before his discharge in early 1945.
@avanticurecanti9998
@avanticurecanti9998 3 жыл бұрын
You're doing a great job, Paulus. Keep it up and you'll be a Field Marshall someday!
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 3 жыл бұрын
But with four pips as there is no appropriate crossed batons insignia in Stalingrad - or in the POW camp...
@spikespa5208
@spikespa5208 3 жыл бұрын
Give it about 4 months, Friedrich.
@strongbrew9116
@strongbrew9116 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the Lisbon Maru: The Lisbon Maru was torpedoed by the American submarine USS Grouper. The Americans had no idea that it was a POW ship, as the Japanese had failed to put identifying marks on the vessel and had installed a deck gun on it. After the impact, the ships took one day to sink. The Japanese decided to seal the hatches of the compartments to prevent British POWs escaping, and posted sentries to shoot any escapees. When the water started to fill the main compartments, the British smashed open the hatches and tried to escape. Some did not manage to, however. Some accounts claim that many survivors were machine-gunned in the water by other nearby Japanese vessels, until local Chinese fishermen arrived at the scene and started to help the prisoners out of the water. The survivors were then recaptured by the Japanese and sent on to POW camps in Japan, where many more died. Some estimate that around 800-1000 British POWs died in the sinking of the Lisbon Maru. Japanese accounts of this event claim that the Imperial Navy was unable to transfer the prisoners to another ship in time and were unable to save everyone.
@andromidius
@andromidius 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds remarkably similar to the Allied POW ship sinking a few weeks back. Not exactly the same, but similar in the brutal treatment of POW's just trying to survive.
@lycaonpictus9662
@lycaonpictus9662 3 жыл бұрын
The Chinese fishermen who organized a rescue were absolute saints.
@strongbrew9116
@strongbrew9116 3 жыл бұрын
@@ygma1460 The sinking of the Laconia happened before Lisbon Maru. I don't think "revenge" comes into it, either.
@tams805
@tams805 3 жыл бұрын
@@ygma1460 This has already been covered.
@ericcarlson3746
@ericcarlson3746 3 жыл бұрын
I hope people were {punished} for this
@gunman47
@gunman47 3 жыл бұрын
17:11 I have to admit that this is still the first time I have heard of this. Watches, wallets and cutlery, that would be logical but I have often always thought that looted clothing and blankets from evacuated Jews would normally be thrown or burnt, but to be cleaned and resold to Germans is still another level here. I wonder if the buyers who bought or received them were often aware of its stolen or looted origins.
@jasondouglas6755
@jasondouglas6755 3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised and horrified at that as well
@pnutz_2
@pnutz_2 3 жыл бұрын
why throw out consumer goods (which there is now a shortage as ze germans have finally moved to a war economy)when you can resell them for profit honestly we should have worked this one out in WaH when they mentioned stripping everyone naked before killing them, that they'd be using the clothes
@gunman47
@gunman47 3 жыл бұрын
@@pnutz_2 Yeah maybe we should have. It's just that I thought that maybe due to hygiene or disease contagion fears, clothing might be discarded or burnt instead. To be reusing them is a bit of a surprise.
@MarkVrem
@MarkVrem 3 жыл бұрын
Well since so many people at this time would be working at factories part of the war industry. Any little bit of reduced price, slightly used clothing would make great work clothes. But no doubt the people would know exactly the general idea where it was all coming from.
@dezbiggs6363
@dezbiggs6363 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't only sold. It was used for the lebensborn houses, payment for eastern European workers who assisted in the murders (willingly or not), welfare, etc.
@thegunslinger1363
@thegunslinger1363 3 жыл бұрын
"Earthquake." "No captain, battle formations."
@tabe8850
@tabe8850 3 жыл бұрын
The part about the SS economic head and rules for “evacuated Jews”. If I read that in a sci-fi story I would roll my eyes. The fact something like that actually happened? This is why we need channels like these! Incredible and sickening. WWII is fascinating in so many ways, most of it horrifying. I am a person that has much interest in it, and I realize my comment above shows myignorance compared to you true historians. I just want to say thanks for such a wonderful channel.
@thezeropike
@thezeropike 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, there are legitimate reasons why Anti-fascism is a thing. To prevent this type of thing from ever occurring again.
@ryanjackson1999
@ryanjackson1999 3 жыл бұрын
@@thezeropike unfortunately the people calling themselves "Antifa" nowadays do awful things themselves without realizing the irony
@thezeropike
@thezeropike 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanjackson1999 In what way?
@ryanjackson1999
@ryanjackson1999 3 жыл бұрын
@@thezeropike im old enough to remember the summer of 2020 when "Antifa" groups participated in mass rioting across major cities in the United States. I recall them setting up an autonomous zone in Seattle terrorizing people that lived inside it. I recall on a nightly basis for months "Antifa" members besieging a federal court house trying to set it on fire with law enforcement inside of it and blinding those officers with laser pointers.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We appreciate that you think so highly of our work!
@richiecuzzz1
@richiecuzzz1 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect for listening to on my drive to work. One of my all time favorite series to watch/listen to! You’re the man Indy!
@sergeigontcharov1254
@sergeigontcharov1254 3 жыл бұрын
I am Russian and I like your channel.Everything is truthfully clear and to the point without stupid propaganda husks and an attempt to praise or emphasize the justification of some countries. Thanks.My grandfather fought in the Red Army and remained alive.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! We're glad your grandfather managed to survive the war
@Donbasos14
@Donbasos14 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of information in these series is gigantic of scale. Keep it up people you are doing good work for years to come.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words of support!
@soumyadeepchatterjee1262
@soumyadeepchatterjee1262 3 жыл бұрын
The music absolutely adds up to the tension
@alexv3357
@alexv3357 3 жыл бұрын
3:39 National Geographic maps were actually among the best available at the time, and were a common sight in war rooms in the US and Britain during both World Wars
@kieranh2005
@kieranh2005 3 жыл бұрын
I remember an account of the invasion of France, where the German forces under Rommel were navigating using Michelin maps and guides, including the star ratings of restaurants, as they were more accurate, up to date and had more of the critical information he needed than the provided military maps.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 3 жыл бұрын
@@kieranh2005 When the Chinese came into the Korean War, some of them had to rely on school atlases in Japanese. The basic principle was keep heading south, and when they encountered UN troops, to infiltrate around them.
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that the US banned the exportation of NatGeo mags furing the war for that exact line of thought...
@herrdreg1136
@herrdreg1136 2 жыл бұрын
>On more travel news from that part of world": Indy-you're a piece of work. Also, love your content and site as a whole-excellent work!
@nickmcgargill6216
@nickmcgargill6216 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy how the Battles of Stalingrad, Guadalcanal, & El Alamein - all three major turning point battles in their respective theaters are happening at relatively the same time. Moreover, the cross over information and analysis on this channel is outstanding. 😁👍
@yourstruly4817
@yourstruly4817 3 жыл бұрын
I think in the pacific, the Battle of Midway is considered the turning point
@carriertaiyo2694
@carriertaiyo2694 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought that was an interesting coincidence. The major turning points were all happening at the same time...
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Nick! Glad you're enjoying our content for those reasons. All the best.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 3 жыл бұрын
The Axis shot its bolt on several fronts at roughly the same time, and things are now turning.
@lycaonpictus9662
@lycaonpictus9662 3 жыл бұрын
It is interesting how the decisive points of the war, even if seemingly disconnected and occurring in different sections of the globe, seemed to align at roughly the same time. It wasn't just limited to this period in 1942 either, as the Battle of Moscow & the Pearl Harbor attacks occurred at roughly the same time and in 1943 Kursk occurred at roughly the same time as the invasion of Sicily, which led to Mussolini being deposed.
@iljaslundqvist9626
@iljaslundqvist9626 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode, Indy looking sharp as always! One think this episode made me consider that I have not done before is the amount of pollution the war had to cause. Burning oil in the volga can't be good for the flora and fauna, the same goes for all the ships getting sunk spilling oil and chemicals in all the worlds oceans. I can't even comprehend how the habitats on some coastlines must've been devastated.
@kjj26k
@kjj26k Жыл бұрын
An even more horrific example of war pollution is happening right now in Ukraine. When Russia destroyed the Kakhovka Dam last month, the wave smashed into a fuel depot, adding crude to every affected area downstream. The wave also picked up land mines and scattered them in a way such that no one will ever know where they are the easy way. Then of course, that wave also tore up the estuaries and river banks and islands, covered it all in the debris of destroyed structures. All of this aside from the obvious deaths of a significant portion of the human and animal population, including a zoo from which there were no survivors apparently. That was downstream. The reservoir above the damn is of course completely gone now, leaving a dry lake bed layered with dead fish. That lake bed will become a spawn of mild dust storms most likely. The reservoir irrigated both Southern Ukraine and Crimea, those ares will now desertify. I think I got everything. Now if Russia blows up any of 8 nuclear reactors they occupy in that same region-- War is a f***ing mistake.
@silentdragon1555
@silentdragon1555 3 жыл бұрын
Not for Chuikov...at this point, this is his 12th Brush with Death....
@garcalej
@garcalej 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a joke going round. Chuikov played cards with Death…..and won so much money Death kept coming round trying to win it back.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 3 жыл бұрын
@@garcalej More lives than a cat.
@rooseveltdarbey9493
@rooseveltdarbey9493 3 жыл бұрын
Chuikov and his men were in a hell on earth. Imagine being trapped in that hell hole and being told you can't retreat across the volga, just stay there and fight till the death.
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 3 жыл бұрын
it was a bad spot, but for Soviet soldiers, still better than being captured by the Nazis.
@briantarigan7685
@briantarigan7685 3 жыл бұрын
Soviet in real battle of stalingrad: we are understrength and our divisons are half their strength every man count!!!! and we will hold these city with everything we got Soviet in every western movies: haha human waves and 1 in a 2 guys have the rifles and the other have the ammunition goes brrrrrr
@audreygatey1274
@audreygatey1274 3 жыл бұрын
Pick up the weapon of your sibling and keep fighting. Brilliant.
@ਪੰਜਾਬੀ-ਸ4ਟ
@ਪੰਜਾਬੀ-ਸ4ਟ 3 жыл бұрын
@@audreygatey1274 sibling
@ryanheng9562
@ryanheng9562 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that in almost all cases Operation Uranus was glossed over. Many people still think the battle was won in the city only.
@Gonzalouchikari
@Gonzalouchikari 3 жыл бұрын
I understood that reference.
@ciprianbodea7838
@ciprianbodea7838 3 жыл бұрын
So were the german ones. And the kicker is, the Germans fighting at Stalingrad, since the hole operation to reach Astrakan started, have not received any substantial reinforcements. Worse still, not only did they not receive men to fill up their depleted forces, no actual fresh recruits have yet to be sent to the southern front fighting at Stalingrad. Meanwhile, all the other fronts in the East receive fresh reinforcements, with the notable exception of the Southern front, as per the instructions of the OKW(German Army command). And this is all while the Axis(Germans + their allies) have slightly more soldiers in the USSR than the Soviets. Imagine how this incompetence on the part of the Germans would pan out if the Soviets would manage to get more men and material on the front lines than the Axis. Does not bode well for the famous German efficiency.
@lolathescruff
@lolathescruff 3 жыл бұрын
Indy and Mr Ballen really are the best story tellers on KZbin
@Michael-jx9bh
@Michael-jx9bh 3 жыл бұрын
That last point (at about 18 minutes in) about the possessions of the people murdered really highlights the amorality, tastelessness and general vileness of the War on Humanity part of WW2. The people forming those policies probably just considered it practical, while STILL profiting personally by channeling the best items to the SS. It just about made me PUKE. And yes I knew already.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, it emphasizes the grim, inhuman reality of this war. It's sickening. If you haven't already, check out our channel's War Against Humanity videos for more in-depth coverage of the crimes committed against humankind during WW2.
@Michael-jx9bh
@Michael-jx9bh 3 жыл бұрын
@@aleksazunjic9672 Just to be clear: personal profit doesn't have to be financial - being well regarded by your bosses, co-workers and subordinate by ensuring good things coming their way counts as personal profit in my book - especially in this case since they as all SS personnel they themselves could buy those things (legally). No offense meant :/
@lycaonpictus9662
@lycaonpictus9662 3 жыл бұрын
Even the hair that was shaved from the unfortunate people sent to the concentration camps was repurposed for industrial use or to make things like blankets & socks for U-boat crews. Only a decade ago rolls of textiles made from human hair that hd been shorn from as many as 40,000 people that had been sent to Auschwitz, were found by historians in a closed down Schaeffler (a German car parts supplier) plant in Poland. The plant had been involved in tank production for the Germans during the Second World War, and analysis of the textiles also detected traces of Zkylon B from the gas chambers. The atrocities committed were bad enough, but as you said the way in which not their personal belongings - including parts of their bodies - were recycled for profit added an extra level of vileness to that regime. It is hard to imagine how so many people could have allowed themselves to sink that low.
@auguststorm2037
@auguststorm2037 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning the Rzhev battle which is often overshadowed by Stalingrad
@fooo2241
@fooo2241 3 жыл бұрын
"The Motherland Calls!" a statue/war memorial in what is no longer Stalingrad. WOW! Google maps is great side tab for me with these episodes, as I dont know Russian, or S. Pacific lands at all... but really appreciate the details. Looking today at Mamayev Kurgan, couldnt miss this massive, amazing statue.
@ImperativeGames
@ImperativeGames 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. The statues there for a reason. We shall not forget history or...
@VladTevez
@VladTevez 3 жыл бұрын
Best thumbnail so far! (ok, along the art thieves episode)
@carriertaiyo2694
@carriertaiyo2694 3 жыл бұрын
The "Britain chooses war crimes" episode also had a good thumbnail.
@johncmitchell4941
@johncmitchell4941 Жыл бұрын
@@carriertaiyo2694 Britain looted enough from the colonies without being at war.
@lussdoru3108
@lussdoru3108 3 жыл бұрын
Indy, u are doing a great job in pronouncing all these geographical locations from all over the world so I want to add one more to that list - Russian city on a Black sea cost - Tuapse is pronounced the way its written - the last letter "e" is pronounced (like "e" in "Mexico") and stressed - TuapsE.
@MRFlackAttack1
@MRFlackAttack1 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting touch to show flashes of gunfire in the map graphics.
@johnmann8619
@johnmann8619 3 жыл бұрын
These have been some great episodes lately (as they all are). Thank you for mentioning Rzhev. I don't "do" Instagram. I am hoping that Operation Mars gets the attention it deserves when it comes up soon. Rzhev and the 100s of thousands that died there deserve as much credit as those in Stalingrad or any other front.
@megahop01
@megahop01 3 жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t this channel not have millions of millions of subscribers is beyond me ✊🏼
@markrook6085
@markrook6085 3 жыл бұрын
The Red Army soldiers who crossed the Volga on boats were the inspiration for Alexander Alexandov’s classic piece, “Song of the Volga Boatmen”. Listen to a Red Army Chorus version, and you’ll get just a hint of the feelings of dread those men were subjected to. You can feel it in your gut. Powerful. The Soviets were masters of the use of music to inspire the population.
@Loreless
@Loreless 3 жыл бұрын
song of the Volga boatmen is a russian folk song created hundreds years before Alexandrov.
@charliesmith4072
@charliesmith4072 3 жыл бұрын
I love this week-by-week study of history. In college I spent two years studying the first 15 days of July, 1863 (As well as biology, math, and German), and got a real feel for history. These clips have the same feel. It is hard now to recall what a near-run thing WW II was.
@gunman47
@gunman47 3 жыл бұрын
Also this week on September 29 1942, the second of the Lookout Air Raids occurs in Oregon state. Like in the first raid, a Japanese Yokosuka E14Y floatplane piloted by Nobuo Fujita is launched from Japanese submarine I-25 and drops incendiary bombs, but there was minimal damage.
@howardbrandon11
@howardbrandon11 3 жыл бұрын
But were the baseball fields fine?
@jebatevrana
@jebatevrana 3 жыл бұрын
This keeps getting better and better.
@korbell1089
@korbell1089 3 жыл бұрын
Some of those units around Stalingrad weren't even paper divisions...more like wood pulp. I can imagine Zhukov walking up to a private in the 23rd Tank Corps. Zhukov:"And who are you?" private: "I'm 1st Company!"
@caryblack5985
@caryblack5985 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to know which Sopviet divisions fought and their strength read Isaev Stalingrad City On Fire.
@steeltrap3800
@steeltrap3800 3 жыл бұрын
You might want to consider updating your portrait of Zhukov, at least his title. Zhukov served as Chief of the General Staff for only 5 months, being relieved from that position in July '41. He went on to command various critical points from then, including the defence of Leningrad and Moscow at critical phases during the initial German onslaught. As of August '42 he became Deputy Commander in Chief, or Stalin's direct subordinate, and retained that throughout the war as he took command of decisive fronts/operations up to and including the surrender of Germany. Minor point, I know, but Chief of the General Staff really is the least appropriate of all the titles you may have given him as he was only in it for a month during the entirety of the war against Germany. You do a great job of educating people about the war in both broad and surprisingly detailed respects depending on the topic, so I thought it worth mentioning as I figured you'd want to have it correct. Cheers
@Southsideindy
@Southsideindy 3 жыл бұрын
That is a glitch in the editing that I managed to miss. Usually when an episode is reviewed things like that get noticed. Sorry, but thanks for pointing it out.
@steeltrap3800
@steeltrap3800 3 жыл бұрын
@@Southsideindy Nothing to apologise over, but thanks. You and your team's attention to detail is excellent and that's why I bothered as I suspected you'd likely want to alter it. Keep up the great vids (I'm sure you will). I've been putting my nieces, nephews and friends (plus their school age children) onto the channel plus Spartacus' "War Against Humanity". These are some of the best available WW2 education resources around (and I've been reading military history for near 40 years; I started young, lol). Cheers
@rabihrac
@rabihrac 3 жыл бұрын
The scale of the attacks in USSR is so gigantic that I am still impressed after all those episodes!
@Yeeren
@Yeeren 3 жыл бұрын
Franz Halder: "You can't just set the Volga on fire" NEW MISSION OBJECTIVE: SET THE VOLGA ON FIRE
@tanker4516
@tanker4516 3 жыл бұрын
"SET THE RIVER ON FIRE" That's when you know, hell has come with a second wind.
@billweitzel1750
@billweitzel1750 6 ай бұрын
This is your best intro for any episode thus far. No better "German" response than: 'NO! Set the River on Fire!' 😂😂😂 Had me cracking up. Indy, you're hilarious and your delivery and explanations are on point. I love this channel, can't believe I'm half way done already.
@stevekaczynski3793
@stevekaczynski3793 3 жыл бұрын
Front-line soldiers allowed to buy looted watches, but the SS keep the gold ones. It says a lot about the Third Reich pecking order.
@michaelkovacic2608
@michaelkovacic2608 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed.
@jamesa4566
@jamesa4566 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your inclusion of war against humanity snipits. I find those episodes too disturbing to watch but I realise that the military war cannot be untangled from the wider situation driven by crazy ideology. Splitting the series as you do was a very goog idea and I hope it brings people on to understanding the war crimes. Thank you.
@edduran2484
@edduran2484 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to believe Indy's intro phone conferences are with people who sound like Charlie Brown's teachers.
@joserosenblatt5164
@joserosenblatt5164 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode as usual, great documentary series! One suggestion to make it even better: before showing any detailed action map (e.g. Stalingrad or the Caucausus or Guandalcanal), you could start form a more general map (e.g. Central and Eastern Europe for Stalingrad and the Caucasus, South pacific for Guandalcanal) and then zoom in to the detailed action map, or maybe even zoom out a little and then zoom in again (e.g. show shouthern USSR when the story moves from Stalingrad to the Caucasus). I guess it would take 3-4 seconds in each transition, and would give us a better idea of disstances between defferent flashpojnts and their location relative to grat centers like Berlin or Moscow.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your tip. We're always trying to improve the maps
@Noobmaster-ch7hr
@Noobmaster-ch7hr 3 жыл бұрын
All I can say is that friedrich paulus is going to get a promotion when all of this will be over.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 3 жыл бұрын
Spoiler: Paulus gets into a tight spot, but is saved when Hitler sends in Steiner.
@wimdefoort7698
@wimdefoort7698 3 жыл бұрын
Bedankt
@wimdefoort7698
@wimdefoort7698 3 жыл бұрын
Does this go go the creators to KZbin?
@wimdefoort7698
@wimdefoort7698 3 жыл бұрын
Cause i would give some more
@wimdefoort7698
@wimdefoort7698 3 жыл бұрын
I meant does this go go the creators or to KZbin. Because i would like to sponsor with small or large sums but not monthly
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for asking. You can always sign up to Patreon or the Army and end your subscription when you feel you have given what you would like to. You can also sign up to the TimeGhost Army without giving any money and just be part of the community. Having an active and growing community helps the channel in many ways other than just financially. You are also already supporting us by subscribing to the channel and commenting as well though, so thanks for that.
@wimdefoort7698
@wimdefoort7698 3 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo thanks a lot for your response. Class acts you are. Ill think about it because i am a daily listenor. Question remains though did you get my five bucks or did it go to KZbin?
@geniemiki
@geniemiki 3 жыл бұрын
What fascinates me is how divisional commanders had to adapt from being responsible for miles of frontline to being ordered to storm a factory the size of my high school, with 3000'ish men.
@forksandspoons7272
@forksandspoons7272 3 жыл бұрын
I'm chuckling at the long E in "chuikov" Anyone familiar with the Star Wars franchise is hearing "Chewy, cough!" And picturing a Wookie during a very uncomfortable visit to the doctor. ROFL 😂 In fairness, I had to google the pronunciation and I'm not sure I'm saying it correctly either. Keep up the good work guys!👍
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
@Forks and Spoons Thanks for the laugh, and thanks for watching. Be sure to subscribe and check out our Patreon so we can make more great historical content www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory
@montevallomustang
@montevallomustang 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I had no idea who won ww2, it would be awesome for this to be the first time to learn all of this
@joshuapatterson3264
@joshuapatterson3264 3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel . now I'm binge watching . I love ww2 history
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Joshua! Glad you enjoy our work! Welcome aboard!
@MartieD
@MartieD 3 жыл бұрын
Small correcrion: The German general was called Paulus, not von Paulus. Common misconception.
@AndrejaKostic
@AndrejaKostic 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently, even the Soviets were quite surprised to find out that his last name is in fact not von Paulus.
@beachboy0505
@beachboy0505 3 жыл бұрын
4:35 Look at the American Marine advancing on foot and firing his belt fed .30 calibre. Not invented by Arnold Swarzenegger. Lol
@bingrasm
@bingrasm 3 жыл бұрын
Rokossovsky: Von Paulus, surrend. Paulus: Nah. Rokossovsky: Why not? Paulus: My name is Paulus, just Paulus. Rokossovsky: Paulus, surrend. Paulus: Ok.
@rand0mn0
@rand0mn0 3 жыл бұрын
Small matter: Around the 5:10 mark, Indy says, "Well, on the 28th, 69 Japanese fighters and bombers raid Guadalcanal and are intercepted by 34 Wildcats." When he says, "Wildcats", a flight of TBF Avengers is shown. No Wildcats. As I said, small thing. Usually, you guys get the things right. Love the shows.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Feedback incorporated
@toby9509
@toby9509 3 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for Indy to end a phone call with “Love you, bye”
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Challenge accepted!
@carolineruof6034
@carolineruof6034 3 жыл бұрын
....this is the first time someone has mentioned General Richard Ruoff, I've been trying to research my family members who participated in WW2 both the Allied and Axis sides, so I'm impressed.
@GunnyKeith
@GunnyKeith 3 жыл бұрын
OUTSTANDING COMMENTARY & COVERAGE INDY. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND RESEARCH.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
It is my great pleasure!
@stargazer7184
@stargazer7184 3 жыл бұрын
Love the new lighting. Looks great!
@Mr_M_History
@Mr_M_History 3 жыл бұрын
The most epic of titles for the most epic of history videos!
@chimerafortysix9406
@chimerafortysix9406 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great episode thank you for it. If I was going to try to introduce new people to this series, this is the episode I would use for that purpose.
@angeledduirbonesu1989
@angeledduirbonesu1989 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, best thumbnail by so far!
@nickthenoodle9206
@nickthenoodle9206 2 жыл бұрын
That almost last bit with Roosevelt I didn't know about. Most interesting.
@keiththoma2559
@keiththoma2559 3 жыл бұрын
The part about 50 kg of gold teeth reminds me of the tooth scene in Schindlers list. Honestly little details such as that really do help show the true horrific scope of the Holocaust.
@kornaros96
@kornaros96 3 жыл бұрын
That was ew.
@ponza7978
@ponza7978 3 жыл бұрын
This series is absolutely gas! You guys are amazing for doing this
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Aaron! It's thanks to our fans and their support that we're able to do this, so you are just as amazing.
@MH-tr4kn
@MH-tr4kn 3 жыл бұрын
Man those maps are incredible.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@nozecone
@nozecone 3 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo Love those little flashes to indicate battles in progress - brilliant!
@terracewalker8919
@terracewalker8919 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen many documentaries on these events. I feel these give an in detail perspective and I for one find I have a much clearer understanding. It was total lunacy when seen in context. Thanks guys, keep up the excellent work.
@jamesharmer9293
@jamesharmer9293 3 жыл бұрын
Everything looks much crisper and sharper and with more colour saturation. Have you got a new camera ? Or is it just Indy's tie ?
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Better lightening;)
@JaJDoo
@JaJDoo 3 жыл бұрын
interesting fact about the burning oil tanks situation in stalingrad - chuikov was told the oil tanks were empty, thats why he initially set his hq there. when eremenko inquired as to the whereabout of the 62nd command, chuickov answered something along the lines of "where the smoke and flames are"
@TheEvertw
@TheEvertw 3 жыл бұрын
Wetzel: You stand between me and the oil I want? This is madness! 16th Battalion: This is Novorossiysk!
@MrRobbi373
@MrRobbi373 2 жыл бұрын
The whole eastern front part of the video reminded me of all of the different Red Orchestra 2 maps....
@alexamerling79
@alexamerling79 3 жыл бұрын
"Have we really lost so many men? Damn this Stalingrad!"-excerpt from Wilhelm Hoffmann's diary, October 3, 1942.
@andrewfavot763
@andrewfavot763 3 жыл бұрын
Great job this week Indie and crew!!!
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@thatoneguy7765
@thatoneguy7765 3 жыл бұрын
I'm now picturing in my head a German kid getting a new coat for Christmas while wondering where the neighbor kids he played with went... I need to lie down now...
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the work that yall do.
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Shawn. Glad you enjoy our content.
@ar494
@ar494 3 жыл бұрын
Indy and crew never fail me on Saturdays. I am more excited for this every week than I ever was for Saturday morning cartoons
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Your appreciation means a lot to us!
@simon6872
@simon6872 3 жыл бұрын
13:58 What's that armored vehicle moving in the background?
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
That's a Marder 3, which is a Panzer 38 chassis with an anti-tank gun placed on top.
@ATINKERER
@ATINKERER 3 жыл бұрын
At the start of the war, the US military didn't have the maps they needed so they went to the National Geographic building and got the maps from them. True story.
@sephsticles1016
@sephsticles1016 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of that bit during the Norway arc where the German commander had to plan the invasion on such short notice that he had to use a Baedeker tour guide for the maps.
@nicolasheung441
@nicolasheung441 3 жыл бұрын
"Eat well because this night we are going to dine in Hades (Hell)!" Dies. Wakes up. "Oy,, tovarish! We found some flour in that bombed out apartment building, want some blins?"
@joseaca1010
@joseaca1010 3 жыл бұрын
how much of a miserable human being one has to be to resell the clothes of the people you are mass murdering, if it wasnt such an immeasurable human tragedy, it would be completely pathetic
@Blazcowitz1943
@Blazcowitz1943 3 жыл бұрын
Miserable enough to consider things like clothes, watches and tooth fillings to have more worth to a regime than human lives.
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 жыл бұрын
You can reuse clothes, you can't reuse dead people, or so the Nazi train of thought goes...
@ImperativeGames
@ImperativeGames 3 жыл бұрын
They also made soap from the bodies of people murdered in concentration camps (Jews, dissidents, communists, Soviet citizens). Also Nazi working there committed all kinds of horrible acts, like wife of camp's commandant ordering to make lamps from the prisoners' skin and collect tattooed skin en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilse_Koch And from the point of view of Nazi party member there is nothing wrong with that. That's why I strongly dislike any government, ideology or religion that dehumanizes people.
@joseaca1010
@joseaca1010 3 жыл бұрын
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 not even a common robber would steal your clothes after taking your wallet
@DrVictorVasconcelos
@DrVictorVasconcelos Жыл бұрын
I had never considered how to hold a BAR (@4:33), but man, holding it by the mag has to be weird af.
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 3 жыл бұрын
These titles and thumbnails keep getting better 😂
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them!
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 3 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo glad you make them 👍
@phillipsmith6704
@phillipsmith6704 2 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic work!
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Phillip! Stay tuned for more every week
@longboardinghhb
@longboardinghhb 3 жыл бұрын
14:14 the dude is a litteral anime character blowing out some steam before he makes his epic move
@ngqinaunathi1655
@ngqinaunathi1655 3 жыл бұрын
The most simple yet detailed documentary, I love you guys keep it up! 💯❤️😭🤭
@WorldWarTwo
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! We appreciate the kind words and are happy to know that you're a fan!
@katfrog98
@katfrog98 3 жыл бұрын
When do we talk about the legendary "Pavlov's House'?
@Southsideindy
@Southsideindy 3 жыл бұрын
In November.
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 3 жыл бұрын
When the dinner bell rings.
@lawrencesmeaton6930
@lawrencesmeaton6930 3 жыл бұрын
Tbf, Pavlov's House was a minor skirmish that was overblown for Propoganda purposes by the Soviets at the time. Look up TIK on youtube, he has a good video mythbusting the engagement and also covers it in his regular Stalingrad documentary which is over 20 hours long now.
@Southsideindy
@Southsideindy 3 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencesmeaton6930 I'm well aware of that, and the Michael Jones research, which is the main reason I won't talk about it until Captain Naumov dies the week of November 27th.
@alexv3357
@alexv3357 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the descriptions of shipping losses would be better in context, like how many tonnes sunk out of how many were shipped
@brunovrancic8330
@brunovrancic8330 3 жыл бұрын
Chuikov wrote a book about the battle.
@kurtwpg
@kurtwpg 3 жыл бұрын
Been enjoying 3 years of this. The worm is about to turn.
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