[1595] Sentry Safe’s Lock Design Malpractice

www.covertinstruments.com

[@CaptainEO27]

"I am going to use this paperclip that BosnianBill and I designed"

[@c20ux]

Where did BosnianBill disappeared?

[@Marcel1979K]

@@c20ux He wants to have more time with his family.

[@williamsmith9948]

You can find it over at covert instruments as part of the genesis set.

[@scottbaumgart2206]

@@Marcel1979K In Bosnia.

[@firefly4f4]

​@@Marcel1979K As I understand it, some friends or family members passed away, and he (and his wife) started caring for their kids. It's quite sad, but I've also nothing but respect for him for taking on the responsibility.

[@zKaltern]

'I see you are trying to open a lockbox - Would you like some help with that?' - Clippy

[@jimmyzhao2673]

Wait until Clippy becomes sentient and powerful, we all won't be laughing then.

[@mugoftoothpaste1507]

​@@jimmyzhao2673 Doesn't seem like you do a lot of laughing anyways

[@waterlemon3885]

​@@mugoftoothpaste1507 pretty sure that was just joking back...?

[@cantbedeleted]

​@@mugoftoothpaste1507 So you like your coffee... minty?

[@the_primal_instinct]

The only time Clippy was useful

[@stephenclouse5083]

Once you find out that SentrySafe is just a sub-brand of Master Lock, suddenly it all makes sense.

[@ragganmore6113]

Wait. Is it actually or is this sarcasm?

[@solidoxygen7873]

You can find out in 5 seconds yourself

[@risky8811]

@@solidoxygen7873just answer the fucking question instead of being cocky

[@PepperKatt]

⁠@@risky8811you can find out in 5 seconds yourself

[@honkfiend7981]

To answer on this genuinely, it is, MasterLock is the direct parent company lmao

[@purr_lude]

"Advertised for documents, guns, and jewelry..... sticker inside, informing the user not to store firearms" Queue David Attenborough voice: and here we see, the natural result of a marketing major intern, and a somewhat competent liability lawyer both giving input without communicating to one another. Truly a prime example.

[@cyalknight]

Or an example where the directions make no sense, but need to be put it in, maybe for liability reasons.

[@highpath4776]

@@cyalknight Will Steve Lehto tell us the legal difference between a Gun and a Firearm?

[@cyalknight]

@@highpath4776 I think a firearm uses combustion (fire) to launch the projectile. A gun 🔫 can even be a squirt gun or use compressed air. At least my guess to the difference. So, my spring powered airsoft gun can be stored in the safe and a flintlock musket firearm may not be stored. Maybe a silencer or large explosive devices are firearms too.

[@stephenp448]

​@@cyalknight the only things I call guns are artillery pieces that fire on a relatively low trajectory. I wouldn't be trying to put one of those in a little lockbox like this! 😂

[@beeble2003]

The Amazon listing was probably written by a retailer, not the manufacturer.

[@kyrudo]

One day he’ll just stare at a lock with a dissapointed face and the lock will open put of pure pressure

[@SaiSS961]

😂😂

[@platypusfox73]

Darth Vader Voice: You have failed me for the last time Master lock.

[@dhupee]

McNally style

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

He's already opened locks without physically touching them in a video where he used a magnet to trigger a relay in an electronic door lock

[@METALMAN4Wii]

Thanos Snap.

[@abdulmuhaimin3069]

Welp another day, another useless lock.

[@anteshell]

How is it useless? You can easily use it to dispose of any documents, jewelry and small firearms you don't want to keep anymore for what ever reason.

[@ChairGang3]

@@anteshellit’s a slightly inconvenient trash bin

[@pvanukoff]

Useful for Sentry Safe to make some money with.

[@Konarcoffee]

Why bother having a good lock when someone can literally pick up and walk the thing away?

[@aboredgeek7127]

Another day, another Doug.

[@rickrickard2788]

When LPL uses a "Point & Laugh" emoji, you'd best fire your entire R&D team.

[@dikkie1000]

Assuming there is one.

[@Doctors_TARDIS]

@@dikkie1000 Usually the R&d team is okay, but the bean counters get in their way.

[@SoloNit]

@@dikkie1000 Not this one, these are rebranded straight from some Chinese factory.

[@likebot.]

Ahh. Finally, a nice, secure waterproof safe for my precious MasterLock collection.

[@Blackraven6]

Yeah. "waterproof" XD

[@shamancredible8632]

its where zelensky hides his private pics

[@HomicidalTh0r]

It's owned by masterlock too. It's all coming together now

[@Dunkopf]

​@@shamancredible8632 this implies that he has none. Because if he did the security of this device would insure they would be easily accessible to the world with but a paper clip. Try harder bot.

[@theq86]

If can't even stop a paperclip how is it going to stop water?

[@flint818]

Sentry exec: “How long is the video?” Employee: “2:29” Sentry exec: “Shred everything!”

[@TheAllAroundMan]

More like Sentry exec: "Quick, send a cease and desist!"

[@fluchterschoen]

@@TheAllAroundMan Aye, a cease & desist to all the people who have bought one. "Kindly cease and desist using our product to protect anything of any value whatsoever." 🤣

[@SlowPythonV1]

I feel like I'll click on a LPL video faster the shorter it is 🤣🤣🤣

[@timward4301]

Nah. An engineer might have that reaction. Executives would be more like: "Meh. How badly could someone discredit us in that short amount of time?"

[@AriManPad8gi]

@@timward4301 tonnes LMAO

[@neatogaming9423]

“The lock has only one DESIGNED opening method…” Oh boy…

[@AlanHerrlich]

That is bad? It seems like safes with multiple opening methods can have a security issue with *any* of the methods and it is bad. With only one way to open there are fewer ways to attack it. It would be nice to have a way to externally power it in case the battery dies.

[@rezuredragon]

@@AlanHerrlich the "joke" is that the creators only designed it to work 1 intended way, but with the lack of effort in designing it, they've added extra ways of opening it.

[@slademmxii8759]

my first thought when i heard that line was hes gunna use a magnet probably. after the actual method i realized i gave that box far more credit than it deserved.

[@AlanHerrlich]

@@rezuredragon Doh, yes... thanks "designed" is the key word as even highlighted!

To be honest, I expected more than one alternative to be presented.

[@THERingmaster500]

Excited to see you pick the lock "Works By Design" sent to you 🙂

[@parmesanzero7678]

I love how product liability has become such a joke that it’s fine to advertise something as appropriate for a purpose and then put a warning on the product that says it isn’t for that purpose. Amazon really needs some regulatory smack down.

[@dragonlogos1]

Amazon is a though shipper the individual companies are the ones the regulators need to crack down on.

[@I.no.ah.guy57]

​@@dragonlogos1 yeah, but Amazon should still be able to decide what stores/products they host or not. I mean there's some genuinely dangerous things you can get from Amazon. Like radioactive stuff, as an example

[@gantzm]

Wow, they even beveled the opening of the reset hole to make it easier to get the paperclip in. That was so thoughtful of them.

[@thewilldickerson]

I'm wondering if a bit of hot melt glue in the hole would mitigate this attack? But I'm sure if there was this glaring of an oversight, what others does it have?

[@dracul1986]

@@thewilldickerson It the end user has to change the product to make it work/safe it is a garbage product

[@insertphrasehere15]

@@thewilldickerson Yeah... all they had to do was have a little snap in cover over the hole that can't be removed while the top is closed... But honestly they probably had this feature like this because they WANTED this vulnerability. (because there is no backup key to open the lock, the company probably has a special 'tool' that they use to reset the lock). They didn't think it through enough to realist that a paperclip can do the same job. Idiots. Overall though... I'd say it's probably a decent buy if you don't mind getting out your hot glue gun.

[@MrPir84free]

It's not like the hole could be taped over with a piece of electrical tape. Oh, no..

[@dracul1986]

@@MrPir84free a paperclip can pierce through that with ease, dont find dumb ways to fix problems the producer should have fixed.

[@chrisggoodwin777]

The new Covert Instruments package will not include professional tools, but an assortment of paper clips, butter knives, forks, and trimmed red bull cans and orange juice bottles. All the tools needed to access many of the world's most common locks and safes

[@androiddave1276]

Don't forget the Lego man !!!

[@chrisggoodwin777]

@@androiddave1276 ah yes, the best way to defeat a trigger lock!

[@cpovey1]

But it does need to include a wave rake.

[@chrisggoodwin777]

@@cpovey1 naturally 😉

[@M0UAW_IO83]

I taught myself to pick locks during the pandemic lockdowns using pretty much just paperclips, bits of aluminium cans and some bent bits of metal I found lurking around my office from old computers, laptops etc. really good fun 'hacking' them

[@NevarRyoko]

A raised edge..... A RAISED EDGE! Around the reset button is all this needed.

[@gleggett3817]

or putting the reset button on the inside face of the box

[@garygenerous8982]

But but but… that would cost an extra $0.05 to manufacture… impossible

[@grover-]

Stop giving them ideas! They'd get the raised edge wrong somehow.

[@jorgencederlund2406]

Or a simple plug in the existing hole. 😊

[@Sylfa]

@@grover-"Today we are looking at version 2.0 of the Sentry Safe. This product must be a joke as there is a ridge preventing the lock from latching on properly and even a toddler can exert enough force to simply open it."

[@zillamill]

Whos here from the unpickable lock 2.0 video that works by design made?!?!

[@Sylfa]

Is it a heavy rock?

[@Aging_Geek]

Lawyers for Sentry have begun the process to sue paperclips as a unlawful safe picking tool and demand they are removed from the market.

[@thetachyonhivemind]

Lmfao no way thats incredible

[@fauxque5057]

2014 Master Lock bought Sentry Safe

[@javierpaz7954]

That may happen in Canada

[@keithstarlift8847]

YES !! Google reports: SentrySafe is a brand of safes manufactured in Rochester, New York. It is owned by the Master Lock Company.

[@jimmyzhao2673]

@@javierpaz7954 And Trudeau will give a smarmy speech chiding Canadians to 'Learn from this and to all do better'

[@FokkerBoombass]

There is zero excuse for this, a simple logic circuit that would stop the code change button from functioning if the thing is locked is all it takes to fix it, even if you can reach the button it wouldn't do anything.

[@StefanoBorini]

I am willing to bet it's by design, and it's basically a suggested workaround in case you forget the combination, and want to open it anyway. As for your suggestion, it might be easier to protect the button with something, making it impossible to reach.

[@scragar]

Last digital lock I had like this needed you to press the button, enter the current code, then press the button again, enter the new code, and press the button the final time to save. It was an annoying process, but it worked and requiring you to enter the current code to change it feels like the bare minimum effort you should put in.

[@LoserInChief]

An even more simple barrier around the button or the opening to stop this paperclip attack. Just a bit of molding. My god, it's so useless.

[@albertwong5793]

It would require another sensor, costing them $ per unit

[@spitfire7170]

They could also just you know, position the reset button in a better spot like in the inner wall making it excessively hard to push using a wire from outside

[@gamingSlasher]

The positive thing is that it is a good safe for people that easily forget their codes.

[@glavatazelva]

I don't think it's a coincidence that the last video was published three weeks ago! because a lock from works by design arrived and ruined his career! 😅 the man is such a perfectionist that even after three weeks he is locked in the workshop trying to pick the lock and refuses to do anything else! I hope that one day you will get out, but that the defeat you will carry on your shoulder will make you a better and stronger person! I can't wait for the video

[@ralphkeyser5084]

Ah, the humble paperclip. 📎 Invented in 1890, and still doing more than it was designed for some 134 years later

[@SlowPythonV1]

Paper clip doesn't need a sequel. Paper clip will outlive humanity

[@KaoruMzk]

I think by this point, most people have already forgotten what its original purpose was.

[@johndemeritt3460]

I'm waiting for the lock LPL opens with Clippy!

[@seanj3667]

I've seen that video suggestion too. I will not click it.

[@deineroehre]

Yes, the original puropse is of no use nowadays, there are paperless offices. Nowadays paperclips are handy for jamming up the scanner for legacy documents still not scanned and to reset devices like mobile phones (or open the SIM-tray of the phone) throught the tiny hole. And they open some safes, apparently.

[@JosiahBradley]

Someone should report the Amazon listing for mentioning firearm safe. That's inexcusable.

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

Maybe it's intended for non firearm guns? 😅

[@Jehty_]

@@bosstowndynamics5488 How do I store my 💪 in there?

[@JosiahBradley]

@@bosstowndynamics5488 perfect for my Super Soaker 2000 right in time for summer!

[@Merennulli]

@@Jehty_ Next Halloween, you should make cardboard "safes" to wear around your biceps and write "gunsafe" prominently on each. 🤣

[@johnpublic6582]

@@Jehty_ Cut two holes and wear it like water wings?

[@TheRenaissanceReborn]

LPL: "For advanced pen testing, I've made a key copying kit." Also LPL: "So, we grab a paperclip..."

[@BennydoesstuffYT]

Try to pick works by designs lock

[@marcohueber5130]

LPL: "Let's give that a moment for the code to set..." All Master Locks in a 20 meter radius: *sweating profusely*

[@DragoNate]

*rusting lmao

[@johndododoe1411]

All *other Master Locks in the vicinity . Sentry = Master = American .

[@seanj3667]

It would have been funny if he used that time to pick a Master lock, just for fun.

[@Zalacans]

​@@seanj3667 lol that would've been hilarious

[@wurgel1]

@@seanj3667 and commenting "Like father, like son"

[@johnsrabe]

I have a radical idea for manufacturers of products like these: have somebody test them.

[@roccobierman4985]

Have the Lockpicking Lawyer test them.

[@UP9724659]

They tested it with someone who forgot the code. This honestly looks like a bypass feature.

[@johnsrabe]

@@roccobierman4985 with this safe they could use a chimp

[@thefogg]

lot of the locks now a days are more for a law purpose. me personally, i only have them so i dont get the smash n grab kind of theft of my items.

[@tsm688]

that would mean designing them in the first place. I'm sure they're just importing someone else's product from a foreign country relabeled

[@SpookyDookySr]

You know it’s bad when LPL puts a “🔒👈😂” in the thumbnail.

[@Sylfa]

Bad as in good, right? But yes.

[@doctoroctos]

MS Paperclip - “Looks like you are trying to get into a safe. Can I help?”

[@hermask815]

MS Paperclip today: Looks like you are trying to hide something in a encrypted file. I’m storing that content and password plaintext on our servers.

[@ukaszpochocki190]

Schrodinger's box. Only after opening it is known that the weapon cannot be stored.

[@jrambo7495]

Aaaaahahahaha!!!!!

[@Merennulli]

Of course not. You don't want the cat to be armed.

[@johnpublic6582]

@@Merennulli Cats have OE claws and teeth, and after being kept in a box he *will* use them.

[@Merennulli]

@@johnpublic6582 Exactly. The only thing worse would be if you gave the cat a ranged weapon.

[@johnpublic6582]

@@Merennulli It is a distinct possibility that cats don't keep pet people precisely because they don't have range weapons.

[@rontesoro9041]

It's remarkable how many poorly made lock products LPL has made us aware of. Sadly we are surrounded by equally weak products in all facets of our lives, appliances, tools, furnishings and lots more.

[@sforza209]

All you have to do is be savvy when making said purchases. Everything in life can’t be perfect. And the dumb junk suits the main bulk of the population.

[@christophersamuelson451]

When I was a kid my parents would buy the best they could afford, take care of it and have it repaired if it broke. They instilled those values in me. Now, you buy one up from the cheapest with the expectation it will break and it cannot be repaired. Disgraceful. 💩 in,💩out. No quality and very little pride in manufacturing.

[@rontesoro9041]

@@christophersamuelson451 I've been a fixer my whole life. If it had a plug, gears, valve, pump, hinges or whatever I was always ready to bring it back to life. Cheap solid state circuitry, touch pads and bells and whistles was the beginning of the end. Always hard to explain to a friend that replacement parts for a 4 year old dishwasher are no longer made...

[@yaacoubi]

Hey LPL, you got a new challenge. Let's go! (from Works by Design)

[@pr1sm55]

Can't wait for LockPickLawyer to pick the unpickble lock he will get by mail soon or already has! 😁

[@Merennulli]

Of course that worked. You bent the paperclip into an "S" and you gained "entry". They even wrote "S entry" on the label so you'd know how to get in the safe.

[@spocksvulcanbrain]

After watching your channel for years, I've come to the conclusion that if a thief, who's watched your channel, ever comes to my house to steal anything, my valuables would be safer hidden in a flower pot than in any safe or place secured by a lock. Keep up the great videos.

[@LittleBallOfPurr]

The safe could probably still be useful for a bit of misdirection, could buy you an extra 7 or 8 seconds.

[@simonspacek3670]

Get a safe like that, inside put a trollface with note "do U think I'm that stupid?" and any thief will be confused enough. They may even leave, because they will feel that something weird is going on.

[@nothere7198]

@@simonspacek3670 Or have a locked smaller safe inside. Repeat as far as possible. Keep the thief busy lol.

[@thepiperpie]

Silver lining, most of the things he notes about lock failures have to do with skilled or knowledge based weaknesses. Things thieves generally lack. Glass windows on the ground floor are a bigger weakness than the security level of your deadbolt.

[@johnpublic6582]

@@thepiperpie I rebuilt my entry locks with a couple dollars worth of parts and some minutes of my time. I could buy Military Secure facility grade Medico locks, but that would be dumb. I have windows, and the walls are just plywood and sheetrock.

[@ZephodBeeblebrox]

I have a sentry firesafe. For some unknown reason, the nutters at Sentry put a combination lock and an Ace key on it. All it needed was a simple spring latch. It's a fireproof box. It's not robust enough to be an actual safe.

[@beeble2003]

Seems reasonable to put a lock on it. It deters casual snooping, which is not nothing.

[@ZephodBeeblebrox]

@@beeble2003 Then a masterlock on a hasp and loop is more than adequate. The combination lock is just bloody pretentious.

[@Dexaan]

It's a step up from the "push the locking lug aside with a lockpick" I was expecting.

[@KD0AFK33]

I see you have an unpickable lock coming your way.

[@Ljokerz]

lets see your true skills picking Works By Design lock :P

[@4bSix86f61]

How thoughtful of them to chamfer the opening of the reset hole.

[@PlaySA]

Can't wait to see you take on the new Works By Design 'Unpickable' Lock

[@borassictime918]

Meanwhile at MasterLock; “Phew! That’s not one of ours! Oh, wait a moment, we own Sentry 😫”

[@kennedyshits9840]

this actually explains.. well, everything

[@RuthlynWills]

👀

[@flyingrichie]

Video under three minutes, going to be more of the usual!

[@DrHarryT]

"Works By Design" is supposed to be sending you a "pick proof" lock he made. I told him that if you can't pick it, then it's pick proof.

[@Certifier]

I check in on this channel once every couple years. Very glad to see that absolutely nothing has changed. Love you Mr. LPL

[@ForeverLaxx]

They can spin this as a feature: "Forgot your combination? No problem! Just insert one end of an unfolded paperclip and PRESTO, you can change the combination!"

[@drath5679]

And then sell the "paperclip" for an additional $15...😅😂

[@NogardCodesmith]

@@drath5679 right... but they have to call the paperclip something like an "emergency access tool".

[@Jerrythebatman]

this channel proves you dont need a 10min intro 10min talk about the item making a short video 20min like most people do, straight to the point. Love that, keep up the lock picking!

[@bikeny]

And, don't forget that he has quiet videos, and by that I mean, no music is played while is narrating the video.

[@Jerrythebatman]

@@bikeny i know what you means dude lol short sweet and to the point

[@johnpublic6582]

@@bikeny WTF is it with people putting music behind all their vids? It's most great when they have the voice at 80 db and the music at 89db. WTF did he just say?

[@humanboxman]

When are you picking the lock sent to you by works by design

[@jeffcicale]

Sentry....This should be a comical one lol

[@Dirtyharry70585]

They should put looney tunes sticker on it

[@TesserId]

Sentry is a brand that sells at Staples. Ever buy an office chair at Staples? It's all the usual mediocre consumer products.

[@cool110]

@@TesserId It's worse, they're a division of MasterLock.

[@duncanmcewan1049]

@@cool110 I wasn't sure if you were joking or not. Google informs me that you are not. It all makes sense now - it's almost like MasterLock go out of their way to make crappy products 🤣

[@immortalsofar5314]

Forced Sentry?

[@TesserId]

"I'd consider this lock design malpractice, were there such a thing." I guess he's saying that laws governing implied warranty don't apply here. Sounds like a video subject for LegalEagle, because I'd sure like to see the topic covered in depth.

[@quelrods]

It might be a fun legal discussion but LegalEagle is only worth watching if you want to explain how he gets the law wrong.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

That would be one helluva collab!

[@nickbreakfield1257]

Warranty isn't really LegalEagle's domain. If you wanna see a collab on that, get Steve Lehto on it.

[@gw6667]

​@@quelrodsHow does LegalEagle get the law wrong?

[@quelrods]

@@gw6667 try searching for what LegalEagle gets wrong? I remember three different attorneys all making videos regarding one of his. Most of lawtube just tries to forget he exists unless it's completely egregious

[@qcvitals]

Looking forward to see you pick the Works by desing lock

[@aeebeecee3737]

Have you picked up 'works by design' pickproof lock?

[@MisterGames]

So a tupperware container with elastic bands around it would be harder to get in to.

[@KT-pv3kl]

depends on the number of rubber bands XD

[@johnpublic6582]

Did you ever accidentally snap yourself with the elastic while taking it off? Ouch!

[@WyvernYT]

Use an opaque Tupperware container, label it Spare Computer Cables, and put it on an upper shelf. Thieves can amuse themselves stealing the portable safe instead.

[@DarkWolfsDen]

Since SentrySafe is a subsidiary of Masterlock we all know what this REALLY is... an attempt to make Masterlock look better by comparison.

[@Merennulli]

Honestly, they're both in the same section of the market where quality is less important than price point and shelf space (or in this case, showing at the top of Amazon results).

[@jenconvertibles]

This is the only channel I enjoy where the shorter the upload, the more I enjoy it

[@Trubyd44]

It's so amazing that products like this are even designed!

[@cliffontheroad]

Equal Employment Opportunity. Unqualified people risen to above their level of ability. Lock design, computer programmers, persons elected to govern you, ....

[@bermchasin]

they figure more people would be mad at not being able to get in the safe after they forgot their code than would be mad when LPL breaks in and steals all their docs

[@BL-yj2wp]

It's mainly for fire protection, but strill, this is such an unnecessary flaw.

[@bermchasin]

@@BL-yj2wp if the box is in a serious fire, how do those buttons and electronics fair?

[@BL-yj2wp]

@@bermchasin Doesn‘t matter, it‘s fairly easy to break open. I suspect that it is too small and thin to keep its contents cool enough for a longer period anyway.

[@THEPLANETEARTH]

Cabt wait for you to test that dudes lock

[@Unmixable404]

I'm here waiting for the new lock from locks by design.

[@alfredotheimpasta]

We need the Works By Design lock picked please!

[@koreywilliams4570]

Looking forward to the works by design lock.

[@ThePropertyProject]

I bought my gun safe (VAULTEK) after watching your videos. Thanks for reviewing so many locks. I know the bulk of your videos are what locks not to buy. Occasionally you come out with a “not bad” or “ok for use” one.

[@mandisinclair1632]

I just love watching these videos!

[@MatthewSmith-cu2pm]

Me here 8 mins after watching Works By Design vid to see if LPL got it yet....🤓🤓

[@andreys7944]

Imagine being product manager of this safe and watching this video...

[@Pwnopolis]

They don't care. These companies have been spitting out useless trash for decades.

[@frialreevus971]

I believe they just don't care, if they did then this video would just not exist

[@riendetout8812]

LPL: "It is clear very little thought went into this product" Sentry PM: Uh, what's that supposed to mean?

[@Roddy556]

​@frialreevus971 they didn't care about it when they designed it so yeah I don't see why they would care now.

[@lonksnek]

Your channel's continued prosperity is not only a sign that burglary is as popular as yesteryear, but mostly that your amazing content continues serving the customer and forcing companies to do the same.

[@Girlscouts81]

I love your videos. They are helpful, Thank you!

[@Julie-mf]

Why do safes like this not have a lip seal like sandwich containers? Using the method shown in the video would be much more difficult if there was an obstruction blocking access to the code change button

[@simonspacek3670]

When a sandwich box has better security than a safe, something is wrong. Also, I'm not sure if this safe is waterproof. That would be a nice thing if I store papers in it.

[@tmg7476]

@@simonspacek3670 I worry about flooding and certainly wouldn't trust my papers to this. And I can find better looking jewelry boxes with as little security. But yeah, I even doubt the heat resistance with that opening.

[@msromike123]

You just saved them a lot of money. Great solution. Email them! An extruded plastic lip that surrounds the reset hole that mates to a recess in the lid, or vice versa. Genius.

[@IMarvinTPA]

I'm convinced that security products like locks and safes are designed and built by thieves for thieves.

[@billfargo9616]

DUH!

[@LadyLocks]

Wow, that certainly is lock design malpractice! They should be ashamed of themselves for this one. Thanks for bringing this issue to light! 🥰😍😘

[@sinteleon]

Eh, the one where there is a easily removed handle still beats this in ease of access. :P

[@sirskidney7998]

Oh no! Again? Thanks LPL, great job exposing yet another product that should never have got beyond design stage. 🙏

[@jpendowski7503]

A satisfying video. Thanks.

[@proscriptus]

Short and sweet. Gets in, savages a product, gets out.

[@GryphonBrokewing]

I'm sure the thought was "no one will download the instructions online to know how to change the code if they don't own it". Because lock designers are designing a lock, not thwarting those who'd open a lock.

[@edthelazyboy]

I can see that this safe was designed with cost heavily in mind. 1. The control logic is probably very simple: * If the user inputs the PIN matching the stored PIN, activate the latch release. Add timeout to clear ongoing PIN entry in case PIN entry reattempt is necessary for legitimate user. This safe doesn't seem to have a door open / close switch. If so, it doesn't know if the door is opened / closed and it doesn't care either. * If the user presses the program button, accept the upcoming PIN input, store the user input as new PIN. With the simple logic, you can significantly reduce controller development and controller cost. I hope this safe has a retry timeout logic to prevent bruteforce attempts. 2. The program button is likely edge mounted on the PCB that's facing the membrane buttons. You might notice how close the program button is in relation to the PIN keys. Running wires to locate the button in a more secure location increases parts / labor cost. 3. There are only 5 keys rather than 10 keys for the PIN entry. Fewer keys means less cost for membrane keys. Each of the keys are labeled with two decimal digits to give the illusion of support of 0-9 digits for PIN. There are 5 ^ 6 or 15625 possible PINs. A four digit PIN would only yield 5 ^ 4 or 625 possible PINs.

[@myleskelvin]

Man I think more about lock security *much* more than I used to. Thanks LPL!

[@GuyPipili]

At this point, a zip tie or velcro strap is more secure. A lot of these locks are a joke! We're looking at you Master Lock!

[@livinghypocrite5289]

Just put enough duct tape around the item you want to be protected. LPL did spend more time in removing duct tape in the past, than opening that lock or any of master locks crappy paper weights.

[@zancloufer]

Zip Ties are really easy to unlock. Just jam a small knife point or pen into the outside end that runs over the notches. You can hold the locking bit up and just un-zip the tie. The bigger and heavier the Zip Tie the easier it is. Also you get a free Zip Tie out of it. Probably the best way to take of zip ties.

[@adzkaatharizzramadhan]

Please test out the works by design lock.

[@ardeet]

Each time I think I couldn’t possibly be amazed …

[@jerryrobinson7856]

Sentry has always been the proverbial McDonalds of safes by professional security specialists. Sentry (originally John D. Bush Company) are experts in marketing and distribution to retailers. These are more just a box intended to ‘keep your hands off’ container for households for papers, medications or gun’s, etc. Some are fire rated up to a specific temperature over a specified period of time. Never use the term fireproof as it’s not impervious, it’s fire rated. Papers for example have a char rating temperature. A USB memory stick may fail well below the temperature of charing of papers. Many fire rated units have a moisture in the insulation that creates a mist inside the box to cool off papers buying more time. Over years, this becomes dried out. If you have a need for a real safe for valuables, these ‘containers’ are not suitable. Most households would benefit from a chest high wall safe the depth of a medicine box and a press button lock. They are held in with lag bolts into the studs. This is convenient for limited cash, daily or weekly jewelry, medications, etc. These are not fire or burglary rated. If you have a cleaning person, contractors in the house or just want the kids to stay out, these are well suited for limited valuables. Floor safes under three feet tall are larger for papers and valuables but require people bend way over or get on their hands and knees to access. These royal pains mean it’s for things you might access six to twelve times a year. People resist putting things in the safe because it is a royal pain. Often things that should be in the safe are left about. Safes with valuables under 750 pounds need to be bolted down. Some safes are fire rated, some premium (professional) safes are burglary rated and some composite safes are both for burglary ratings and fire. If you have high value contents, seek a professional for proper advice. I am also a fan of multiple safes for high value, one very hidden, one visible, one wall safe, etc.

[@DarrellLarose]

Jeebus, it would be trivial to have a sliding metal plate pushed over while opened that would cover the reset port, blocking a paperclip attack. Sad to see Clippy fired by Microsoft led into a life of crime..

[@RealCadde]

Makes me think it should be criminal to be so bad. Something along the lines of "Negligent property endangerment". The team that designed, made and marketed this product should all stand trial and many of them should see the inside of a cell. When they do, they might actually learn something about security so they should see it as free education.

[@WickyMA]

Love how you keep the videos short and to the point too 😂

[@DavidSmith-1951]

Naysayers Harumph!! All great personalities need a Foil! What would LPL be without SentrySafe? Or MasterLock? Jack Benny? Rochester. Johnny Carson? Ed McMahon. You get the idea.

[@MikePiesco]

Makes sense when you look up who owns Sentry Safe 😅

[@ragtowne]

Master Lock 💸 And in 2016, Master Lock closed its Rochester, New York production facilities and moved production to Mexico.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

​@@ragtowne Does it even matter where the item is made when the engineer is the same, the blueprints are the same, and QA is the same? Let's blame the real culprit here.

[@ragtowne]

@@DinnerForkTongue I think where an item is made can have a significant impact on the quality - for example I find a lot of products whose production was moved to China have much poorer quality than before so moving production from the United States to Mexico could affect the quality of master lock products - it’s not an indictment of people but rather the source materials used and the manufacturing processes implemented - after all the move was probably done to “save money” during the manufacturing process.

[@cliffontheroad]

@@ragtowne You speak the truth on quality, but the theme was design, not construction. Extending that idea, would I interject "item could use a drainage hole for liquids"

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@ragtowne Again, that's outsourcing the cheap way (purely to please shareholders at the expense of everything else) and QA being sloppy. Not a matter of production origin. China for example (since it's currently the planet's industrial heartland) can and does make excellent products, _as long as_ you hire them to make excellent products and not garbage on the cheap.

[@maxdon2001]

Great video!

[@elementneon]

Speaking as someone that lost THOUSANDS of dollars slowly over the course of a year to the non-electronic key based Sentry Safe, where the thief just went out and bought their own, and they keys it comes with work on any of the same model safes, YEAH, I have to agree.

[@mikoro88]

LPL! Have you gotten the "unpickable" lock from Works By Design yet? 😅 I'm so curious what you think. Even though I have a sneaky suspicion you'll finesse that lock, _somehow._ ^^

[@Behemoth3434]

The locks from the channel "WORKS BY DESIGN". Nothing further your honour.

[@Davlavi]

Thanks for sharing.

[@danieloconnell695]

Just saw an ad for the Stopbox. Claims to be a quick one hand access for a gun but still robust enough to frustrate a curious kid into not cracking it open. This needs a test.

[@microsoft-pox]

2024s finest minds at work hear. We’re all screwed!

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

Audio?

[@SirusDiarota]

here*

[@GenericInternetter]

here

[@subliminalvibes]

0:19 - You know there's been lawyers involved when a manufacturer includes a sticker changing the description/expectation.The password reset button working when the unit is locked is sheer lunacy. 🙄

[@sabinrawr]

This is good for keeping your old code a secret!

[@DWM864]

when will you pick the work by design lock ?

[@Pwnopolis]

75 dollars defeated by half a cent.

[@dandeve]

Wow… just wow!

[@amateurshooter6054]

Thanks LPL

[@TheI3utcher]

Works By Design channel has an unpickable lock being sent to you. I can't wait to see you pick it! I am really looking forward to that video. I love your content. Thanks for the hours of entertainment.

[@JohnSmithShields]

There is a wave rake crying somewhere.

[@brianhawthorne7603]

“Useful for fires or floods” That’s what I use my Sentry safe for (well the fires at least). Mine has a keyed lock holding it closed, and to ensure that I never lose the key, I keep it in the lock.

[@analog_guy]

Yes! Your method is a good option in case of a fire. (I can only imagine what this thing will look like after a fire. I'm absolutely sure those plastic buttons won't melt and the electronics and battery will continue to work and the gap between the lid and body will keep the fire away from the contents!)

[@TheBostonstapler]

cool! i bought this unit when i bought my house to store house purchasing documents, and some backup cash in case of a fire.

[@iansazama9383]

2 days ago "Works by Design" posted a video on a lock he made, one was sent to you! I can't wait to see how you handle this one