16GB vs 32GB RAM M1 Pro MacBook: REAL-LIFE Comparison!

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The new M1 Pro MacBooks are already really powerful and come standard with 16GB of RAM. Not only that, but there are a number of other features on the M1 Pro chip that make that RAM even faster. So the question is - should you bother upgrading to 32GB of RAM? Is it worth it?
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00:00 Introduction
00:39 M1 Pro RAM Explained
02:33 Sponsor
03:18 Testing Methodology
05:23 3D Modelling
10:55 Video Editing
14:35 Photo Editing
16:43 After Effects
22:11 Extreme Multi-tasking Stress Test
27:47 Should You Get 16 or 32GB RAM?
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@CreatedTech
@CreatedTech 2 жыл бұрын
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@iamkailong
@iamkailong 2 жыл бұрын
for 16gb to 32 gb, the difference is small for most people. but 8gb to 16gb is a totally different story.
@rochitgurung9090
@rochitgurung9090 2 жыл бұрын
For both it’s small difference unless you are opening 60 stuffs at the same tome
@iamkailong
@iamkailong 2 жыл бұрын
@@rochitgurung9090 nope, and I don’t think you have ever compared a 8gb and 16gb m1 mac before.
@ninay7685
@ninay7685 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamkailong tout a fait d'accord. j'avais un macbook air m1 8 gigas et ça ramait avec final cut, alors quand je suis passé à 16 c'était le jour et la nuit! par contre entre 8 et 16....suis pas certain que cela change grand chose.
@linhta4630
@linhta4630 2 жыл бұрын
O7
@paramjeetkour6143
@paramjeetkour6143 2 жыл бұрын
Yes dud you are right I am facing this problem and can't upgrade 16gb of ram because lack of money
@Omega6APP
@Omega6APP 2 жыл бұрын
This is the comparison I was looking for, running real-world projects. I'd rather see it without the browser tabs and 4K video running in the background but since it is just to push a bit harder, it still gives a clear idea of how powerful this machine is and in my opinion 16GB of RAM is the best option their performance is most of the time pretty equivalent.
@womp6338
@womp6338 Жыл бұрын
Only for video editors…
@WorksOnMyComputer
@WorksOnMyComputer Жыл бұрын
@@womp6338 How so? The tests ran a number of things and it was basically equivalent.
@adredy
@adredy 7 ай бұрын
wideo in background is almost not use cpu implemented in 2015 😅 must be visible plus decoding is by hardware mean this doing nothing
@VersatBeats
@VersatBeats 2 жыл бұрын
I always buy the base models MBP they're adequate for what ever you need them to do. People keep mention future proofing their machines spending an extra 1,5k/2k and don't seem to understand that you can upgrade to the new one for that money in the years to come, if your feel it's laking the power by then.
@AbirTarafdar
@AbirTarafdar 2 жыл бұрын
Really good point. Might be better to keep the extra cash in the bank allocated for an upgrade. 👍🏽
@danielbroomhall8882
@danielbroomhall8882 2 жыл бұрын
that actually makes sense, especially cuz future basic models will be much better than upgraded ones today. For example, an M1 pro 16gb today is way better than an i9 64gb ram from a year or so ago or even better than a 2020 macbook.
@AV84USA
@AV84USA 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good strategy for most people, however, if your time is worth more than money it’s money in the bank with a faster machine. For me, I usually end up choosing the #2 configuration as I don’t need the bleeding edge, but I’ve found the best value in the middle Macs.
@CowbellkingdomTV
@CowbellkingdomTV 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@S3XYEV
@S3XYEV 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking 🤔! ....98% of us just don't need the MAX chip, nor even 32GBs of RAM. Those that do need it, KNOW they do, and will get the specs they need. For everyone else, if you're wondering what to purchase, just get the base models...... By the time you DO need more RAM or higher specs, the M3 or M4 chips will be out - LOL 😆, and - like Lime said - you can upgrade then! (In 5 - 7 years).... I'm saving the $1000 upgrade now, and I bet these laptops 💻 will have great resale value when I'm ready to upgrade and get a new one.... If you do spend any money on a higher specs, I'd get the 1TB SSD, as it has faster speeds than the already super-fast 512 drive .....so "swap" will be fast and efficient, and you won't even notice any memory slowdowns
@pawecuryo5623
@pawecuryo5623 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you a lot for this robust piece of testing!
@alainkills
@alainkills 2 жыл бұрын
As always, great video. As you already mentioned Parallel. Can you please make a comparison video from 16gb to 32gb running multiple VMs with actual program running on it such as games, apps plus heavy multitasking on the background on the main OS. Please??? TIA
@tokelahti
@tokelahti 2 жыл бұрын
You could have also compared the disk write amounts at the end of the testing. If you booted both macs, before you started.
@sariucar
@sariucar 2 жыл бұрын
It's a great comparison video, good job. It helped me a lot in my choice, thank you. I ordered 14" Macbook Pro M1 Pro 10CPU 16GPU 32GB 1TB, I will have it in a month.
@chilldbox
@chilldbox 2 жыл бұрын
Strange they have them in stock at best buy. I just walked in and picked it up. No wait. Mac store has them 2. If I went for the max or 32gig I would have to order
@MelvsAmores
@MelvsAmores 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for shedding light in this! Now we know. Thanks to you of course.
@UXDiogenes
@UXDiogenes 2 жыл бұрын
What I’d like to know is if this changes when using a 4k, 5k (studio display), or 6k display (Pro display xdr), since memory is shared with the GPU.
@the_stem
@the_stem Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I'm thinking about.. How does it performs when using multiple monitors..? Unified memory should theoretically be eaten by the monitors (or even one large monitor). What model did you end up buying? 16GB or 32GB? How does it perform and what model would you recommend for multiple-monitor multitaskers? Thanks you!
@martinedwards6625
@martinedwards6625 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful! I have the M1 Pro with 16GB RAM and mostly use Da Vinci Resolve v18 for video editing. My masters are in 6K or 4K. I have found that the key variants for performance on the M1 Pro are less memory than 1) if you use proxy files to edit, what option you use. The default on Resolve is ProRes HQ, which produces files almost as large as the originals! If you select ProRes Proxy as the format, Resolve speeds up noticeably. The viewing difference between the two flavours is only minor. 2) I have 2 TB SDDs which I keep my files on. I use this to store the cache files, which seems to help performance too - it avoids filling up your Mac's drive. 3) Max out the memory Resolve is using in the setup - you can get up to 12GB. The default is only 8GB I think. Hope this helps folks!
@2392youngmoney
@2392youngmoney Жыл бұрын
This comment really helped. I am only just starting out, I want to learn to edit videos etc. just for personal/hobby. The 16gb is more than enough for me to learn. I want to use fusion and stuff, when I figure out how and I reckon the base 14 mbp will be fine for me to learn and will take long to ‘outgrow’. I.e not being able to use certain functions/programmes due to low ram. Really I think all that will happen is it will move slow/ but from the laptop I’m coming from I don’t think that’ll be an issue. I was worried about the swap usage, but I think that’ll only be an issue with lots/extreme multitasking, which I won’t do
@2392youngmoney
@2392youngmoney Жыл бұрын
How is your swap usage, if you don’t mind me asking?
@mindbomb2000
@mindbomb2000 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic videos. They really helped me in my decision making process. Thank you!
@allencedano3532
@allencedano3532 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video ! So helpful since I’m deciding between the two. How about music production? I know it’s not your thing but that’s definitely going to be my main use
@HowieIsaacks
@HowieIsaacks Жыл бұрын
I run a lot of virtual machines, and I often run them while also running a lot of high memory and high CPU apps along side the VMs. Having more RAM helps. The last MacBook Pro that I had that had just 16GB of RAM was my mid-2015 MacBook Pro. It worked great with Parallels and other high memory and high CPU apps but it did start to struggle a bit when I ran more than 1 VM. When I later bought a 2019 MacBook Pro and configured it with 32GB of RAM, I saw an immediate improvement in my ability to run VMs, Photoshop, and other hight memory and CPU apps. I just bought a new M2 Max 14-inch MacBook Pro with 32GB of RAM. I could have configured it with more than 32GB of RAM but I didn't see a need for it. While I appreciate someone wanting to be helpful and educate others about how to figure out what they need, I know what I need and I buy what I need. The M2 Max 14-inch MacBook Pro costed almost $1000 less than the 2019 model. I was happy about that!
@JussimirPasold
@JussimirPasold Жыл бұрын
Finally a channel that correctly tested After Effects with the new macbooks! I'm interested to seem how do these after effects benchmarks compare with the new m2 pro and max models, and with different ram sizes
@digitalmonkeyab6017
@digitalmonkeyab6017 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work! Very clear informative review.
@duffyrides
@duffyrides 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and very helpful , thanks!
@saulgood2366
@saulgood2366 2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking about returning and upgrading my 16gb machine but the delivery times for BTO have been blown out and I waited for a month for the base model. Hard decision.
@mndgmesvisuals6564
@mndgmesvisuals6564 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat... currently rocking a 16" 16GB 1TB... every other video I've seen makes me think that this machine is fine. That after effects render has me really reconsidering it though.
@anujsoni2089
@anujsoni2089 2 жыл бұрын
@@mndgmesvisuals6564 what about the battery life?
@ScottDeSalvo
@ScottDeSalvo 2 жыл бұрын
Mac Mini with 8GB bogs down with too many apps open. 16 might be the sweet spot for my use case, but I ordered a Studio with 32 GB so we shall see.
@edcgadgets-de
@edcgadgets-de 2 жыл бұрын
For me it’s just for extreme multitasking, lots of programs, tabs and Windows and maybe parallels. I just want a machine that’s never laggy. I chose the 24 core Max too, just because of double the RAM bandwidth.
@drsmith1988
@drsmith1988 2 жыл бұрын
Great post! You are rapidly becoming a favorite of mine.
@ggudmundsson128
@ggudmundsson128 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant and very informative video, thanks!
@ALotOfNthing
@ALotOfNthing 2 жыл бұрын
Did it seem to me or the distance between the keyboard and the trackpad is different for these macbooks?
@marcteleki2801
@marcteleki2801 2 жыл бұрын
Always great content thanks for the video have a great day
@bassereric
@bassereric 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the After Effects 22.3 update changes the result or not. Also, apart from the encoding time, what about the actual user experience of AE on the 16GB version? Will it lag? Will it force quit on its own? Freezed? Or is there just the encoding time difference?
@joshfernandez8475
@joshfernandez8475 Жыл бұрын
Hey bro any updates on the questions you have asked 😋?
@shaunadams1365
@shaunadams1365 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Well done. Helped my decision.
@KutCut
@KutCut 2 жыл бұрын
How is the Blender experience in the new Mac? are there any restrictions or should I stick to my Windows? Thanks
@devluz
@devluz 2 жыл бұрын
In the end all those additional windows and chrome/safari tabs don't make a difference. MacOS dumps these into swap when something else needs the RAM and as long as you don't actively use them they simply remain in swap memory and won't influence any other applications. If you run (browser) games that actively access its data each frame then MacOS can't keep them in swap memory and then you really notice the difference. So for the 32 GB version you really need an application that 1. needs more than 16 GB RAM at once 2. and actively uses this constantly. Only then MacOS has to constantly move data between swap and RAM and then it really slows down heavily (like after effects)
@mrparts
@mrparts 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I find it hilarious that so many KZbinrs don’t get this with these silly tests with 500 chrome tabs,.
@armandolo17
@armandolo17 2 жыл бұрын
Totally true
@yescreative6030
@yescreative6030 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. This video has helped me greatly.
@henrysaputra2340
@henrysaputra2340 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. It helps
@ismlynx
@ismlynx 2 жыл бұрын
Good comparison but I really expected virtualization 16GB and 32GB memory tests
@MoviesAndMoreShorts
@MoviesAndMoreShorts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Where did you get that awesome wall behind you? looks like some good acoustic treatment for a studio
@artwie
@artwie 2 жыл бұрын
the thing is - it's a very different thing when you just play a clip vs when you've added come color grading and fusion work to it; why is no one comparing the machines performance then?? I've got a bit oldish macbook pro (2017) with 16GB and it's still a perfect office machine, but it struggles playing back and rendering any video that has color grading and fusion on it; plus a semi-transparent clip with my logo on it... So my question is: with these new machines, does 32GB vs 16GB still not make any difference even if you add fusion, transformations, color grading etc etc? will they really still perform almost the same?
@chrisnelson2770
@chrisnelson2770 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my question. This video hasn't helped, because it was not a realistic editing scenario
@haoyuanxu7094
@haoyuanxu7094 2 жыл бұрын
Since this 32G version has little pressure but leggy, I am thinking if the base model CPU and GPU is not sufficient enough at rendering 3D model, rendering browser windows, and decode the 4k videos at the same time. I have not finished the video yet, so I might be wrong.
@dawnfirephotography
@dawnfirephotography Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@remoreacts91
@remoreacts91 2 жыл бұрын
I’d be interested to know when each is connected to a monitor or two at 4K, how do the machines compare then. I think almost everyone wfh has a monitor at home.
@BernieMittens
@BernieMittens Жыл бұрын
I use three monitors with the 16GB, no problems
@adp038
@adp038 2 жыл бұрын
Does WindowServer take up 200-500 MB sometimes to anyone else even though nothing may be running? Happens on the new 14 inch for me
@TheNordicHunter
@TheNordicHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, how were the fans when you were trying to overload the system? I couldn’t pick up on any sound, but I know that’s easily cut out in post.
@phanindrasingh
@phanindrasingh Жыл бұрын
no fan sound m1 new chips nalid it
@GunslingerMediaCo
@GunslingerMediaCo 2 жыл бұрын
This is frustrating. I have the base m1 MacBook Air and it can edit and playback all my A7iv footage perfectly. It’s when I start to put luts and transitions and Motion VFX effects that Final Cut Pro basically crashes and can’t load any assets. I’m looking to upgrade to the m1 pro just to use motion graphics and effects on my footage. Every ram test video simply I’ve seen only tests the ability to play the video, none actually do the real world work of editing video. I have no idea if I need 16gb or 32gb. Since the MacBooks are all back ordered everywhere, I only have two options actually in stock here in NYC. A $2600 16gb and a $3500 32gb version. If I can get the cheaper one I would love to know that. I’d hate to have to just spend the money and find out myself, and risk having to pay that 15% restocking fee just to find out if the damn thing works.
@tty2020
@tty2020 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand, if there is no memory pressure in the 32GB model, why it is still as laggy as the 16GB model?? Will this be solved by adding more CPU/GPU?
@MarsorryIckuatuna
@MarsorryIckuatuna 2 жыл бұрын
Wish you could have tested this with Virtual Machines. This is the key decision on the mind, not so much the Pro Apps… anyone with experience with that?
@sammycrockette
@sammycrockette 2 жыл бұрын
I like your tests and videos but could you do the same test with music softwares? Because for example audio software use a lot of ram... :)
@mbvglider
@mbvglider 2 жыл бұрын
M1 Pro SSDs are getting like 6 GB/s transfer rate. That's about as fast as PC2-6400 DDR2 RAM, so these SSDs read/write as fast as RAM from a decade ago. Knowing that, I'd rather max out storage (bigger SSDs test faster on these computers) before spending a single cent on more memory, because it is my opinion that external drives will be a bigger bottleneck to performance than running out of RAM. After all, even 64 GB isn't big enough to actually hold entire sample libraries in memory, so speed of storage is very important. I personally kept my RAM at 16 GB but went all the way to 4 TB storage just to I never have to think about storage capacity.
@skeLPCgamez
@skeLPCgamez 2 жыл бұрын
This! I get it’s not his field but both him and Luke Miani never do music tests, the only one who I know has done them is Max Tech.
@CreatedTech
@CreatedTech 2 жыл бұрын
@@skeLPCgamez There's a reason why I don't - it's because I have no experience with music production. I don't want to give an opinion on something I know very little about. It would be misleading. I prefer to leave that up to actual experts that use Logic Pro for example on a daily basis. Max Tech's music tests are ok, but it's clear they have never done any music production themselves, which is why they keep their music-related tests very simple. Also to be fair - the music production userbase is very small compared to something like video editing or even coding, so it makes sense for me to focus on the more popular areas.
@jrcenina85
@jrcenina85 2 жыл бұрын
@@CreatedTech that’s interesting about the music production user base being significantly smaller than coders or video editors. How much smaller are we talking?
@diverman1023
@diverman1023 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm the swap is so fast that 16gb is enough in logic
@mhoeij
@mhoeij 2 жыл бұрын
Any impact on battery life?
@martinlacher7932
@martinlacher7932 Жыл бұрын
Great test, thanks! I was wondering, if I want to use parallels just for Office stuff (Powerpoint, Word), is it worth going for 32GB or is 16GB doing well without fan noise? On my old MBP 2018 32GB the fans are coming up quite quickly...
@piotrkmita8570
@piotrkmita8570 2 жыл бұрын
wow amazing video! thanks
@joeyah8542
@joeyah8542 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you very much.
@CreatedTech
@CreatedTech 2 жыл бұрын
No problem, glad you enjoyed it!
@morganBH
@morganBH 2 жыл бұрын
I mainly just use FCP and pixlemator at the same time, with chrome (2-4 tabs) and apple mail in the background. 16 be okay? Thanks.
@Windflowerize
@Windflowerize 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a backend programmer, mainly using IntelliJ with multiple Java or Kotlin projects. Sometimes IntelliJ data are assigned on swap memory then it gets slightly slow, which is quite frustrating. So for me, I need 32G. Swap memory, however, eats up SSD's lifespan and that concerns me a little.
@kelniai2770
@kelniai2770 2 жыл бұрын
Swap is definitely a concern. Do you run containers, kubernetes locally?
@Windflowerize
@Windflowerize 2 жыл бұрын
@@kelniai2770 Yes, Kubernetes eats up lots of memory.
@armandolo17
@armandolo17 2 жыл бұрын
Can you test now a M1 Pro 32GB ram and a M1 Max 32GB ram? would like to see if the 200gb/s vs the 400gb/s makes any difference.
@greyspaniard
@greyspaniard 2 жыл бұрын
Anandtech found that the Max doesn’t meaningfully exceed 200GB/s of bandwidth. I think under load the most they saw was around ~240GB/s
@carloisidoresalcedo6325
@carloisidoresalcedo6325 2 жыл бұрын
That shud be interesting to find out.
@Mr.BobsDog
@Mr.BobsDog 2 жыл бұрын
@@greyspaniard thanks dude
@TheNordicHunter
@TheNordicHunter 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think there would be much difference. The major difference is the GPU being able to handle double the monitors.
@AgentStarke
@AgentStarke 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing such a comprehensive test. Definitely going with 32 as I use After Effects a lot.
@HeGarJun
@HeGarJun 2 жыл бұрын
But if you use after effects a lot would windows system be a better choice for you? I'm struggling with that now. :[ what's your standpoint?
@AgentStarke
@AgentStarke 2 жыл бұрын
@@HeGarJun I was considering a Windows system initially but now that Adobe has optimized After Effects and most the other CC apps for the M1, I decided to go with the Mac for the battery life and performance. So far it's working flawlessly.
@blackmamba6938
@blackmamba6938 Жыл бұрын
You honestly wasted your money. They both edit the exact same. Only the export time is faster, but how often are you actually exporting? Instead you should've put that money on bitcoin and in 7=8 years you can buy a brand new Macbook
@ceementality
@ceementality 10 ай бұрын
@@blackmamba6938 telling someone to put the money in one big source is about the worst advice ever 💀
@blackmamba6938
@blackmamba6938 10 ай бұрын
@@ceementality you’re only putting the price of the RAM upgrade on bitcoin. So that’s like $400. It’s not even that crazy.
@pjedidiah
@pjedidiah 2 жыл бұрын
not ram related question i guess, but I wonder how it will perform if it has 2 or 3 32” 4K monitors with same number of chrome tabs, doing photoshop, then video rendering etc..
@MrRiffbear1
@MrRiffbear1 2 жыл бұрын
Would they behave different with the M1MAX?
@xX_N.Y.P.D_Xx
@xX_N.Y.P.D_Xx 2 жыл бұрын
What’s that foam behind you? It looks great!
@rickyip7308
@rickyip7308 Жыл бұрын
very helpful suggestions.
@anaumrabbani7100
@anaumrabbani7100 2 жыл бұрын
How do you run the tests on the MacBook?
@AndrewMcSpadden
@AndrewMcSpadden Жыл бұрын
if i use multiple monitors (3 displays total) - zoom (screensharing)&OBS (1 display) photoshop(2nd display) and many chrome tabs (3rd display) - do I need 32 gb? or would I be good with 16?
@mustafasfotography6736
@mustafasfotography6736 Жыл бұрын
Hello Matt! Should I buy 16inch MacBook Pro base model m1 for mainly video editing of A7S iii 4k 4:2:2 wedding film of 30mins of final edited video with 10hrs of total 4k footages in a project. Or i should buy 32gb, Please help with a solution.
@christianjimenez6004
@christianjimenez6004 2 жыл бұрын
Do I have enough Ram for using Adobe premiere pro with 16 GB RAM?. I want to use it for editing pictures ( Luminar Al) and drone footage using Adobe premiere pro. Thanks bro.
@rodrigomalutta
@rodrigomalutta 6 ай бұрын
Could you please do this same test between 18 vs 36gb RAM M3 PRO? This methodology is the best!!
@caseykronos
@caseykronos 2 жыл бұрын
For binned v unbinned, do you foresee the lack of CPU and gpu cores being a future proof bottleneck? Possibly worth the upgrade? My concern is that I completely will not be able to complete a task due to lack of cores. Thank you!
@mbvglider
@mbvglider 2 жыл бұрын
During most day-to-day use, 6+2 cores will do just fine, and until you're maxing out all the cores, like during an export, binned M1 Pro is just as fast as M1 Max in terms of CPU. If anything, binned models have better battery life. Sure, $300 upgrade doesn't sound like that much when you're talking about a $1999 computer, but only do it if you want the benefits now because I don't think it adds to future-proofing. Spending $300 more will give you a computer that is exactly as fast 98-99% of the time, but once in a while, you might shave a minute off a 5 minute task. Is that actually going to change how long you keep your computer? That's why I think people should buy for now, not for later. It's not like the Intel days when an i3 MacBook Air was like 15-20% slower than an i7 in even simple tasks like web browsing.
@DJ-Coma
@DJ-Coma 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of stuff are you doing?
@caseykronos
@caseykronos 2 жыл бұрын
@@DJ-Coma various video editing softwares along w final cut and Logic Pro. Also most of Adobe creative suite. I don’t do much 3D modeling but would like to have the hardware capable of handling after effects. Possibility of Rhino. I’m not doing 8k anything lol or even much 4K.
@caseykronos
@caseykronos 2 жыл бұрын
@@mbvglider great point. I’m pretty concise when it comes to running applications and idc if it takes slightly longer. Just want to be able to play when projects involve higher levels of after effects/ graphic computation lol
@Salfriel
@Salfriel Жыл бұрын
thanks for the video, i was torn between the two, and after watching many reviews, including this one i have decided that i am way too broke to afford any of these.
@debdootmanna
@debdootmanna Жыл бұрын
Hey, I have a question. I'm a music producer and I'm planning to buy a new MacBook (probably m1 pro) and the software used in Ableton Live, a Digital Audio Workstation (DAW). These types of software are CPU and RAM-intensive applications. The more I add tracks/layers to my project, the more instruments and audio clips I add, and the more it acquires RAM storage. So which one should I go with? 16 GB or 32 GB?
@mandable
@mandable Жыл бұрын
in my experience, 16gb is enough due to the new type of RAM management they utilize. if you are producing regular music (not music for blockbuster movies and surround sound with huge libraries open all at once), 16Gb will do the job. get 32gb if you are producing using huge libraries of sample-synths and soft synths with 100s of tracks for each project, typical for a hollywood movie music producer's needs.
@sadersan9860
@sadersan9860 Жыл бұрын
super beneficial video, thank you for help
@rangeo2526
@rangeo2526 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know the remaining battery comparison after the test. I heard that using swap memory makes more workflow to CPU, compared to using RAM.
@bartonlynch
@bartonlynch 2 жыл бұрын
Correct, it creates a bottleneck among other issues. RAM is king.
@dirlidinga
@dirlidinga 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, I'm using docker (+10 containers are live ) and + 4 IDE (2x phpstorm, 2x Goland) at the same time. 16 GB will be enough for me or it is worth to buy for 32 GB ?
@TolarRay
@TolarRay 2 жыл бұрын
After effects is one of the only updated apps to utilize all 32 gb of ram, so no surprise it is twice as fast as 16
@studiovivazofficial
@studiovivazofficial Жыл бұрын
Finally a video which shows actual indepth daily heavy load usage with background tasks eating up the RAM. amazing video for indecisive souls ... like me! 😅
@GA7studio19
@GA7studio19 2 жыл бұрын
What is the best option to use Revit 2022 the MacBook pro M1 pro or M1Max ?
@invi_carlos
@invi_carlos 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!
@anthonyvidil3698
@anthonyvidil3698 2 жыл бұрын
For blender, cinema4D users, is it better to take 16 or 32go ram ?
@sheshewantit45
@sheshewantit45 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic video man! think imma go with the base 16gb !
@mr.lelito9524
@mr.lelito9524 2 жыл бұрын
It would be very nice to choose between 16 and 32 Gb if only they weren’t all of stock in all stores
@NNS2822
@NNS2822 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Everywhere
@joshmchin
@joshmchin 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great video
@Jakereviewsall
@Jakereviewsall 2 жыл бұрын
I went with the 16 inch M1 Max with 32gb, I wanted to go with 64 but the ship time was so far out I settled on the 32gb. I went with just the 1tb SSD since I figured I would just use externals to store all my video and photo files and soon I plan to setup a NAS.
@bombjelly5795
@bombjelly5795 2 жыл бұрын
U saved good money and u now have a beast of a machine
@Jakereviewsall
@Jakereviewsall 2 жыл бұрын
@@bombjelly5795 definitely, editing is so much faster on it, Took a bit to get used to though after using windows for nearly 30 years.
@bombjelly5795
@bombjelly5795 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jakereviewsall lol I been on windows my whole entire life. I’m 30 years old and I finally got my first Mac book pro. I got 14 inch bass model with 32 gb ram . I’m still not used to it at all. Muscle memory at its finest ha
@Jakereviewsall
@Jakereviewsall 2 жыл бұрын
@@bombjelly5795 indeed, I am 38 myself and this is my very first mac. I received mine on November 23rd and still getting used to a few things but I unhooked my desktop and forced myself to only use the mac and just figure everything out. Some of it has become muscle memory lately finally but sometimes I still catch myself trying to do something that would have been in windows. Control alt delete dangit, oh wait there is no control alt delete. When I also found out you could simply close a window just using command+Q I was in awe for a moment, it's the little things lol
@danielbroomhall8882
@danielbroomhall8882 2 жыл бұрын
if u r gonna save everything on external hard drivers then you wasted money on a 1 tb ssd.
@pimvijgeboom8950
@pimvijgeboom8950 2 жыл бұрын
What is the go to when u use programs like Autocad, Revit, Sketchup and rendering >> is the 16 GB enough ?
@StacyODell
@StacyODell 2 жыл бұрын
I would be more concerned with the reduced lifespan of the primary SSD due to all of the extra I/O from swapping
@gongosama4492
@gongosama4492 Жыл бұрын
Excellent point ! This is not a small issue, most people have no idea that SSD has the lifespan given by how much write and re write data its cells can take. And with all the swapping in video editing the ammount of daily re writes can easily reach over 100 tb a year. Since these machines are not cheap Apple should be honest, adress its clients and tell what is the limit of data writing before the cells begin to fail and give bad errors in the best scenario. I highly doubt they can endure more than 300 tb. And with the swapping abuse its like they have their days already counted but no one knows when ... 😰
@WorksOnMyComputer
@WorksOnMyComputer Жыл бұрын
@@gongosama4492 It is an issue, but I would expect double the life your estimating.
@kelvinjunior3359
@kelvinjunior3359 6 ай бұрын
Or you can get an external ssd??
@ignskeletons
@ignskeletons 2 жыл бұрын
You can get a refurbished Macbook Air (2019) for about the same price of JUST the $400 RAM upgrade from 16GB to 32GB.
@timogronroos4642
@timogronroos4642 2 жыл бұрын
If you are going to keep your expensive machine for many years, like 5-7 as I have done with my Macs, going 32GB now will probably give longer life for the SSD (much less usage for memory) and better performance on future software down the road. My sweet spot will be Max 10/24GPU / 32GB / 1TB combination either in 14" or 16" , haven't decided that yet. BTW, You have very few benefits going for a Max 32GPU with 14" model due to throttle down effect to safe battery life and avoiding heat. I would go to 32 cores only on 16"
@mrparts
@mrparts 2 жыл бұрын
Lol the people wasting money on “future proofing” this laptop, will be next year buying the next version with the M2max super pro 64 cores 128 gB ram version and justify it again with the same “future proofing” excuse, lol
@johnaart
@johnaart 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrparts 😂😂😂True
@Teluric2
@Teluric2 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think this mac will last more than intel macs because there are more soldered components.
@crazycrypto9454
@crazycrypto9454 Жыл бұрын
Hey great video. How do you find the difference when running fusion from da Vinci resolve
@MrFL08
@MrFL08 2 жыл бұрын
Youre a legend thanks for including photoshop in the test. I use photoshop heavily, well heavily as in daily and work with 300mb-3gb files as a rough guide, I use an M1 air and I will keep it for travel but just ordered the 16 inch 16gb 1tb Pro as an at home photo editing machine, some light video too. Sick of spending money on the absolute best spec so this vid was helpful. Happy Christmas dude.
@nitesharora
@nitesharora Жыл бұрын
How is this working out for you. I am about to get the 16GB 1 TB version and its at 1999 right now. Spending another 900+tax on 32 GB seems too much
@2392youngmoney
@2392youngmoney Жыл бұрын
How have these machines worked out for you both? How is swap usage with 16gb
@sebastianmadrigal7766
@sebastianmadrigal7766 2 жыл бұрын
6:36 love that cat in the corner!
@CreatedTech
@CreatedTech 2 жыл бұрын
She’s just making sure the benchmarks were being performed correctly
@dnmqyt
@dnmqyt 2 жыл бұрын
I'm buying the M1 Pro 16" 1TB version already and I'm thinking of upgrading a bit. So should I go for M1 Pro 32 Gb ram 1TB SSD or 16 Gb ram 2TB SSD? I do 4k video editing, photo editing and am going to learn music production (Logic Pro). I really want my device to last 5-7 years. I have a 3TB external HDD. I'm confused because many reviewers are saying that swap usage on this new ssds is so good that instead of upgrading the ram, I should upgrade the storage. Please help me! I always have the music app, 5-7 safari tabs, and the WhatsApp app open.
@RainbowHii
@RainbowHii 2 жыл бұрын
Hey have you made the decision? I'm exactly the same situation as you, still don't know which one to choose.
@dnmqyt
@dnmqyt 2 жыл бұрын
@@RainbowHii Yes! I went with M1 Pro 16” 1TB 32 GB Ram version coz we can’t upgrade the ram in the future but we can always buy an external SSD whenever we need. I barely use even 60% of the total ram. But 32 GB gives me mental peace while working and will be great for running future apps as well because future Apps will be Ram hungry. So I think this laptop would easily last for 5-6 years.
@RainbowHii
@RainbowHii 2 жыл бұрын
@@dnmqyt lol man we are doing the same thing, I was asking for your help... I/ve no idea how to choose, sorry Idid'nt help you
@dnmqyt
@dnmqyt 2 жыл бұрын
@@RainbowHii Haha! Yes I’m saying that you should go with the 32 Gig version. It will totally be worth it if you are going to use the laptop for 4-5 years.
@RainbowHii
@RainbowHii 2 жыл бұрын
@@dnmqyt Thank you🌈
@csiistandard
@csiistandard 2 жыл бұрын
The laptops specs used..was this a 8core CPU, 14c gpu with 16gb ram and 8c cpu, 14c gpu with 32gb ram??
@vankhanhnguyen1518
@vankhanhnguyen1518 Ай бұрын
What should i choose between a macpro m3 24 gb ram, 512gb ssd and macpro m3 pro 18gb ram 512gb? Same price but different ram and chip. I do code but not really heavy, however i want to keep this mac for like 5 years lol
@ignatiusandi2802
@ignatiusandi2802 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure I will survive with just basic specifications. Currently, using MBP 2015 with 8gb Ram, 512gb storage: running Chrome, photoshop, sometimes light room, illustrator, keynote and Spotify/tidal. It’s alright.. if it’s slowing down, I just use particular software im working with, machine still working fine. Thank for the video, time to upgrade and checkout my bag.
@elijahmodnar1
@elijahmodnar1 Жыл бұрын
nice, but i wonder whats the difference from 16c gpu 16gb vs 32gb on 24c/32c gpu
@jasperdany
@jasperdany 2 жыл бұрын
How about with Logic Pro , Cubase or any DAW in that perspective ? .
@ricardotubeman
@ricardotubeman 2 жыл бұрын
I have 16gb M1 MacBook Pro and I'd say - you can get by with 16gb ram but it does struggle sometimes when lots of apps/files open - I wish I had 32gb
@2392youngmoney
@2392youngmoney Жыл бұрын
Do you see lots of swap usage when using lots of apps/files open? I’m looking at 16gb MBP 14. I don’t mind using one app at a time. Would likely be just Lightroom/Resolve and then a few tabs in safari and Apple music
@iandennis1
@iandennis1 2 жыл бұрын
Right now I would be happy either right now having waited over five weeks so far for mine
@yervandpapazyan4473
@yervandpapazyan4473 Жыл бұрын
I did not get it, if there is a 4 GB free space on a 16GB version why it uses memory swap?
@profintech
@profintech 2 жыл бұрын
Quick tip. If you are planning to use free version of DR you need as much ram as possible and a huge Ssd for cache files
@verynormali5163
@verynormali5163 2 жыл бұрын
I have a new base model 16” and it's quite enough. I use adobe cc, three apps open, big safari load. Also I produce music in Ableton, sometimes very big session, many tracks with multiple fx chain and it seems to be ok. Previously I had 2019 intel i7 with 32 ram and this m2 pro is noticeably heavier beast. Who cares if it's swapping, compressing... or not. Wired ram is no more than 4gb. The ram management is really great now. Also I haven't heard any fan yet. Of course you will have to change the computer in a few years. But in fact, you'll have to do it with any configuration. The M2 is coming and the processor could be many times faster in a three years or something. Yes, if you are working with really big files, like many gb original files in adobe or something, it could make sense to change your ram. But I saw a Lightroom using 16,53 ram on intel i7 one with only 16gb ram installed and still the system was able to go fairly well......
@devanshsoni8622
@devanshsoni8622 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your experience... I am also a singer/misician, currently i don't have a powerful system but i am looking for 16 inch macbook pro but i am unsure that whether shiuld i go with the 16gb or 32gb ram? For music making with long projects with big sound libraries... (Serious Music) I have heard that many people are saying that there apps are crashing in 16gb models so i want to know is that true or should i go with the 32?
@eduvivan2562
@eduvivan2562 11 ай бұрын
Do you think that Davinci fusion users will have issues with 16gb?
@nishadgmusic5829
@nishadgmusic5829 Жыл бұрын
Macbook pro M1 pro 32gb ram 512 ssd VS macbook pro M2 pro 16gb ram 512 ssd Both are for same price right now Which one to buy ? I use Logic pro alot and wanna upgrade Please let me know
@matthewapsey4869
@matthewapsey4869 Жыл бұрын
How cheap will a maxed out M1 Macbook Pro be after Christmas?
@nomadhedge
@nomadhedge Жыл бұрын
Can you do a similar video but for the new M2 Pro base models? (16gb vs 32gb).
@JW-mx3qg
@JW-mx3qg 2 жыл бұрын
Would you say that it’s good to get the 32 gb if you are installing parallels with windows? That way in theory you would give each OS 16gb of ram and would be optimal for speed?
@CreatedTech
@CreatedTech 2 жыл бұрын
Yes for Parallels I would recommend 32GB. 16 is usually ok but if you’re doing anything moderately intensive the extra RAM is very helpful
@jackbaggaley8836
@jackbaggaley8836 2 жыл бұрын
For an architecture student constantly having safari open with 20-30 tabs, rhino 3D modelling software, photoshop and cad open all at once would the 32gb be worthwhile compared to the 16?
@Fhwgads11
@Fhwgads11 2 жыл бұрын
Probably yes, I imagine that the 3d modeling software, photoshop, and cad all want a decent chunk of memory each. How much ram do you use now?
@kelniai2770
@kelniai2770 2 жыл бұрын
RAM is not a problem. Bad software usage habits are the problem
@Wablestomp2
@Wablestomp2 Жыл бұрын
@@kelniai2770 lol imagine if product companies had this mindset of “it’s not our product that needs to evolve to meet consumer demand, but it is the use cases consumers desire that need to change.” I hope you don’t design consumer facing products lol
@kelniai2770
@kelniai2770 Жыл бұрын
@@Wablestomp2 not saying that. I mean, if you give someone 64 gigs, they're not gonna smart about usage. I run Docker on a Mac and a VM for Linux, for example. For each I can allocate a certain amount of RAM. If I don't care about storage, I could give both of them 10 gigs which would be stupid. Also, a fellow engineer likes to keep 20 projects open, just that it's easier to find, faster to open. Each project is 0.5GB of RAM or something. In short, people will use up all the resources that they have and no amount will be enough. Talking about consumer-grade hardware of course where RAM is up to 64GB, etc, not workstations.
@BeierFilms
@BeierFilms Жыл бұрын
Somehow I knew After Effects would be the one to break the 16 GB model. In my own workflow, I often have After Effects, Premiere, and Photoshop open at the same time (along with a bunch of browser tabs). I settled for 32 GB on my MacBook Pro but my custom desktop runs 64GB and there are still times when I still wish I had more.
@blackmamba6938
@blackmamba6938 Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't see the point. Even if the ram is beneficial to export time, how often are people actually exporting? That's the very last step of the project and people are rarely ever doing it. When it comes to just editing the project they both run the same and that's where the bulk of your time goes.
@mosijahi3096
@mosijahi3096 Жыл бұрын
You’re one of those people who think buying a bigger house will solve your space problem, no matter what size house you own you will fill it with things you don’t need. Just close some of the browsers you don’t need.
@pritambiswas4185
@pritambiswas4185 9 ай бұрын
@@mosijahi3096smartest answer ever existed. out of 16gb after effects will consume 80% and out of 32gb it will do the same.
@mr.international23
@mr.international23 2 жыл бұрын
I just got my base 14 space gray loving this toy! Question, I’m only using it for school and video editing for my Vlogging . Should this base specs suffice?
@S3XYEV
@S3XYEV 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 👍😃 I have a base model and it's lightening fast. I'll be exporting a video, while working in Photoshop, and it works great. The video exports in 5 or so minutes. No effect on my multitasking. 😎
@mr.international23
@mr.international23 2 жыл бұрын
@@S3XYEV nice! Thank u man
@2392youngmoney
@2392youngmoney Жыл бұрын
@@S3XYEV hi, I’m also looking at the base model. I want to use it for video and photo editing. Are you still enjoying your machine. How is the swap usage? Thanks!
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