#17 Candelabra of Andes (त्रिशिराः काञ्चनः केतु), Valmiki Ramayana and Radiocarbon dating

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श्रद्धा and प्रज्ञा With Nilesh Oak: Part 17
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Subjects covered: Bhagavad Gita, Ayurveda, Darshana-Shastra, Mahabharata, Ramayana, Veda, Upanishad, Vedanga, Bharatiya Jyotish shastra

[@gargsamyt]

According to local Peruvian legend, this carved trident represents the lightning rod of the god *Viracocha,* who was worshipped throughout South America. This is a much closer match to Sugreeva's description in the Rm & a close parallel to Indra & his weapon Vajra.

[@RiteshSingh-ik7bb]

Guess what..lord Bali's father name was Virachona which is much similar to Virachocha

[@uhura647]

Thanks

[@amitdixit2362]

🙏🕉️ हर हर महादेव 🕉️🙏

[@AnujSharma56262]

True ! here is full refrence Ramayan 4.40.52 Thank me later 👍🏼

[@KumarResearch]

What is 4.40.52..kindly clarify...

[@SholayTv]

​​@@KumarResearch 4th Kanda (Kishkinda Kanda), 40th Sarga, 52nd Shloka

[@KumarResearch]

@@SholayTv Thank u

[@पवनभारतीय]

कंचन केतु पर्वत श्रंखला बाल्मीकि रामायण में वर्णित पर्वत श्रंखला है मुगलों और अंग्रेजों ने समस्त विश्व में कट कॉपी पेस्ट के जरिए लोगों को गुमराह किया हुआ और हमारे धर्म ग्रंथों को माइथोलॉजी करार दिया गया है अब हमें सततोलाजी प्लेटफार्म के जरिए इसका पुनर्निर्माण करना होगा लोगों को सच के प्रति जागरूक करना होगा

[@keystothetruth]

Great intel as always!! Thank you :D Peru पेरु actually means Golden Mountain in Sanskrit, so there was definitely a relationship between people's back then, that has since been occulted from us. Does Sugriva mention if other people's spoke Sanskrit or different languages at the time of Ramayana? I watched the 2 Sangham talks you gave on the subject when they came out. Excuse the request, could you do a video dedicated to all the directions Sugriva gave Shri Rama in Ramayana? With details possibly. I'm sure your other listeners would find it as useful and enlightening as myself. Does he mention Mount Meru? Does he mention VishaVriksha विश्ववृक्ष ? Does Sugriva happen to mention Kumari Kandam at all? Perhaps other "unknown" lands we are not familiar with in today's geography? Namaste 🙏

[@NileshOak]

There is a word 'Parujam' in Indian narratives referring to a type of gold. Please let me know if you come across it. Also references to your insights above (Peru). Thank you.

[@nuclearcasserole]

the facts speak for themselves, the design is the biggest design of its kind on the entire planet, cut two feet into the surface for a long time for it expected to remain visible, to be sure, all these thousands of years later it still looks pretty good, it was put there deliberately, visible from space deliberately,

[@surendradevgaur3331]

पत्थरों पर निर्मित इस चिन्ह के बारे में एक प्रोग्राम डिस्कवरी चैनल पर देखा। उसमें बताया गया था यह चिन्ह हमेशा से ही वहां था। आसपास रहने वाले मूल निवासी बताते हैं कि उन्होंने अपने पुरखों से सुना था कि यह चिन्ह हमेशा से वहां था। उस प्रोग्राम के अनुसार यह चिन्ह समुद्र में कई मील से देखा जा सकता है। संभवत यह नाविकों की मदद के लिए बनाया गया था।

[@NileshOak]

Thank you.

[@tresajessygeorge210]

THANK YOU... DR. NILESH OAKJI...!!!

[@ravs4461]

Thanks!

[@NileshOak]

🙏🙏

[@ravs4461]

@@NileshOak 🙏🙏Ji...pranams to you Sir

[@vardanmishra1781]

is there any platform to rise all about this evidances that all world can accept this as history of bharat ?

[@nitink15]

Shrimadbhagavatam 8.11.31 : tadāpatad gagana-tale mahā-javaṁ vicicchide harir iṣubhiḥ sahasradhā tam āhanan nṛpa kuliśena kandhare ruṣānvitas tridaśa-patiḥ śiro haran Meaning: O King, when Indra, King of heaven, saw this very powerful spear falling toward the ground like a blazing meteor, he immediately cut it to pieces with his arrows. Then, being very angry, he struck Namuci’s shoulder with his thunderbolt to cut off Namuci’s head. Tridashapati as per Jainism is head of 30 demigods... Equivalent term to Devraja Indra. त्रिदश: - Heaven त्रिदशा: - Demigods

[@NileshOak]

Thank you so much for this beautiful reference.

[@arunavabhowmik241]

By refering to the map it seems the Candelabra of Andes is facing to the North and hardly be seen from the west side. What is the significance of describing this symbol as a marker of East side in Balmiki Ramayan?

[@NileshOak]

Do read Valmiki Ramayana descriptions (by Sugriva) for the east direction. Sugriva explains it. We must put our own efforts to understand it.

[@Yash_K999]

On Google maps I see that the three top points of the Trident point towards the south. It could be a marker from Ramayana but I don't know during that time what they considered as north or south. Mostly Europeans set the map such that they were on the north (top).

[@sauvikpaul6980]

I watched this subject before in other channel..

[@NileshOak]

Great. Thank you. Please post the link if available.

[@sauvikpaul6980]

@@NileshOak this was you in sangam or sattology.

[@NileshOak]

@@sauvikpaul6980 I have spoken about Sugriva's Atlas at both Sangam and Sattology.

[@adityaanand3495]

Jai shree ram

[@keepitsimple6642]

Mahadev 🙏

[@devidattagiri5000]

Satsangi ji of Satology had made the site video

[@nuclearcasserole]

The design, has it ever been carefully measured? It would look cool as heck, computer generated

[@anujamahajan7308]

Go to the place and check it yourself

[@devidattagiri5000]

Aditya Satsangi also discussed in Satology

[@niteshpingale8336]

There are so many visitor in time in between today and 12k years so I think we can't connect the ramayana date to the pot carbon dating 😅

[@enjoyparents]

You Rock 😍

[@nahidbin1600]

You are mentioning about east , but Andes and South America is in the west direction from India.. I'm unable to understand this direction. Would love to get an explanation so that I can dig deep into it

[@SantoshKoppa]

If you go in the east direction of India, you go to Thailand, Indonesia and from there is big ocean which is Pacific ocean and continue in the east direction from there and you get North/ South America. In South America you get current day Chile which has Andes Mountain. You open the Google Maps and just move the map in east direction of India and you can see. Hope you can understand now.

[@user-fv9sf7rx9z]

Nilesh ji, Please explain: 1. Tridasheshwar: 2. Hemmaya: 3. Shrimanudayparvat: Does it mean some golden mountain?

[@TJSaw]

The Incas had another name for Indra. They called him Viracocha.

[@nuclearcasserole]

Quetzalcoatl, as he circled the Earth in his upuat(boat without oars) going toward the great Leap, he circled the Earth twice, in his ship of the Promise. The Trident of Paracas was inscribed from the air as the vehicle was gaining altitude to exit the Planet. The Mayan Calendar started on the same date.

[@unbeastable957]

proof/source or else bullshit

[@woozie1637]

Virochana parent of King Bali

[@Health-Blitz]

@@unbeastable957 show me proof that your great great grandfather ever existed. if you show me his birth certificate, i will say that anybody can write stuff on a piece of paper

[@Don38586]

मराठीत येतंय तुमचं पुस्तक, आनंदाची बातमी आहे, त्यासाठी काही advance booking करायला लागेल का हो???

[@NileshOak]

Thank you. Watch for the updates on this very KZbin channel.

[@woozie1637]

Is this true sir or fan channell?

[@prasadasgoa]

Kindly enlighten us on what exactly is carbon dating.. & how it is done..

[@NileshOak]

I may do it in the future. However, there are many videos and articles on this subject.

[@drumstick-marblebag]

If 15,000 years of itihas produced 2 great people like Shree Ram and Shree Krishna then there is a chance that there were 10s of more such great people in Bhartiya itihas 100000s of years old (as back as 10 rajanya yudh, Rigveda, etc). This is probably just a tip of ice berg. We probably lost our precious memorised itihas and books after invaders destruction.

[@NileshOak]

Indeed Too many names with no to little info about them. 1. Agastya 2. Brihadratha of Ikshavku 3. Mandhanta of Ikshavaku many more...

[@jhaG_]

​@@NileshOak sir please write about all characters in many more section in comments

[@myna2mac]

Peru in South America is in South East direction and is in Southern Hemisphere…if we travel East from Central India, after Japan, we get North America and a great Ocean separates Japan and Americas, North or South…the logistics of crossing that ocean would be formidable…or maybe the land-mass is contiguous. I wonder if Occam’s razor helps here…ie Sugriva’s army did indeed saw a trident but not the in etched in Chile.

[@NileshOak]

Both Occum' and Hitchens's razors apply here.

[@JaiAryavart108]

🙏

[@RM-yf2lu]

So if i find a plastic spork at stonehenge, can i assume stonehenge is 2 years old!?!? The logic of those archaeologists is beyond flawed

[@NileshOak]

And unfortunately this is mainstream academic archaeology aka Dirt archay.

[@hariharakumarnyshadham6717]

Sir,Curious to know ,how sugriva know all these details ?, did he travel even before he told these details to vanaras ?

[@NileshOak]

Yes.

[@jaybharat3677]

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[@rayaugustine6908]

The date of ~14,000 years ago could be because of the shifting of the magnetic north pole (ala Charles Hapgood) Augy San Diego

[@NileshOak]

The Charles Hapgood analysis and evidence beautifully matches for Valmiki Ramayana descriptions. Yet, 14000 BP is based on 575+ astronomy descriptions of Ramayana and their empirical, scientific and logical validation.

[@rayaugustine6908]

@@NileshOak Thank you for your comment. But embarrassingly I don't understand what your saying? For one thing, what does BP stand for? Is that like BCE?

[@NileshOak]

@@rayaugustine6908 before present.

[@dhamalsri]

200 BC is rubbish, ir is the approximate date Paracas Culture which lived in the area. By that logic if some one tries to date Candelbra Glyphs in say 4000 AD and find pottery of present culture dating to 2000 AD...Then does it mean that CANDELBRA Glyphs were made in 2000 AD. This ridiculous conclusion is widely publicised by Mainstream Researchers and shows the typical hurry to compress all known history whithin Judaeo-Christian time line.

[@aisakyu7480]

I think you should find some carvings and stucture in indian sub-continent

[@NileshOak]

Great! Please report on the existing ones and the new ones when found.

[@krishnareddy6626]

For ex if I born 2020,jaya samvastara in particular tithi,vara,nakshtram,masam etc .why in purans rama swamy and Krishna swamy etc only have particular tithi ,vara,masam and nkshtram there is no mention numeric year and name of the year .is 60 years names mention in puranas and without numeric year how they identified events occured in past times .

[@NileshOak]

Namaskar You are asking a great question. I do not know the answer.

[@krishnareddy6626]

@@NileshOak thank you for reply sir,is their any source available for getting the answer in purans etc

[@NileshOak]

@@krishnareddy6626 I don't think so. They appear to have used indirect method, e.g. astronomy configurations to indicate a specific time of important events. Thus, we have use Tantrayukti, Tarkashastra and VijnanaBuddhi ... assuming sufficient evidence exists, to figure out. Hope this helps

[@krishnareddy6626]

@@NileshOak thank you sir

[@suryadevararao1795]

Map of How Early Humans Migrated Across the World kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5THg56bicdpna8 This map shows early human migration to South America happened 14,000 yrs ago. This also shows homosapiens migrated to Turkey around 50, 000 yrs ago from India.

[@zensualgreen]

The Candelabro of Paracas is not in the Andes (mountains) but on the rim of the Peruvian Pacific coastline.

[@UdayAbhayPethe]

रामायण किती वर्ष जुनं आहे? युग प्रमाणे बोलल तर कमीत कमी 8.65L वर्ष जून इतिहास राहिला पाहजे

[@NileshOak]

12209 BCE. Check out my books at Subbu Publications or Amazon. The Historic Rama aka 12209 BCE

[@UdayAbhayPethe]

@@NileshOak मग जे युगा बद्दल बोलणं चालू अस्त की इतके लाख वर्ष जुनं आहे, त्याच काय

[@NileshOak]

@@UdayAbhayPethe Answered in this 3 part series. kzbin.info/aero/PLHXmB06jKN8WDbBA5FibTHU-XKxrJQTZA

[@UdayAbhayPethe]

@@NileshOak sir, when will Kalyuga end as per your calculations

[@NileshOak]

@@UdayAbhayPethe answers are there in the above 3 part series

[@sridharahullumane4558]

I am following you and Sri. NityanandaMishraJi......who is a sanskruta Linguist pandit..... to my surprise he presented a publication which says all your findings on dating of Ramayana and Mahabharata are non-scientific and are imaginary.......... is there a likely debate with the other person Sri. RajaramMohanRoy.......of this time period...... I'm curious.....

[@NileshOak]

Do they have an alternate claim, other than 12209 BCE for Rama-Ravana yudfha? Do they have scientific acumen? I am curious, too.

[@NileshOak]

Study both sides and reach your own conclusion.

[@NileshOak]

Debate is done when both parties have specific claims for the same question. Still, you can watch this and decide for yourself kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZC3fpuqp9Vlm8U

[@rubyashraf]

Allah hu akbar Muhammad P.B.U.H created it...

[@tattvamashi]

Indra Created it.

[@skyepage6237]

Muhammad and his followers are chutia. Muslim meaning in dictionary: A big mandali/society of chutias.

[@khittaykachoudhary2360]

😂😂😂

[@Health-Blitz]

But in your Quran it is said that your pbuh used to run home everytime he saw a beautiful woman , and he couldn't control his excitement so he would M-bate 😀

[@harshvardhannegi700]

Pseudoscience