1704 Trying Different Fuels On The DIY Heater 1

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Robert Murray-Smith

Robert Murray-Smith

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@792slayer
@792slayer Жыл бұрын
The description of emptying the chili can had me rollin. Just classic.
@dustybizzle1
@dustybizzle1 Жыл бұрын
burst out laughing in my office, what an awesome line that was haha
@rhondasmith7413
@rhondasmith7413 Жыл бұрын
When Patty was away … eating cold chili over the sink just like a rat had me laughing, too.
@TheWingnut58
@TheWingnut58 2 жыл бұрын
Here in the US, carbon felt can be found at most "big box" home improvement stores like Lowe's etc in the plumbing area in the form of a welding or soldering"blanket". Plumbers use them for fire protection when soldering copper plumbing ....
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 2 жыл бұрын
nice one mate - thanks for helping out
@zahialsalman
@zahialsalman 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip, thanks for this!
@leoc4901
@leoc4901 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Great info
@Flashahol
@Flashahol 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I would have searched for eons!
@docink6175
@docink6175 2 жыл бұрын
still kind of $$ when you could use a wool sock or layers of tissue paper, cotton yarn etc.. they should last as long as the burner as long as you dont let them run dry and burn the wick
@themeek351
@themeek351 2 жыл бұрын
I started making one here in the States with a large Ditty Moore can and a smaller chopped pineapple can! I can't wait to drill it out and give it a try! Thanks Rob for all the years of education and superior entertainment!
@Tater4200
@Tater4200 2 жыл бұрын
have you tried it?
@themeek351
@themeek351 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tater4200 Yes! It worked great! The fuel didn't last long though!
@kathryncooper4001
@kathryncooper4001 2 жыл бұрын
WOW!!! If I lived in the UK, where heating fuel is now terribly expensive, I'd be rigging up one of these heaters in a heartbeat. I make my own cleaning solutions, so rubbing alcohol is always on hand, but I'd like to know if kerosene would be a more affordable, equally effective fuel. In power outages in the US, I just use a large inverted, ventilated aluminum can over a couple of utility candles. It keeps us warm enough til the power is restored, but this device could really benefit all the Brits who are choosing between heating and eating. Brilliant!
@onemansjunk01
@onemansjunk01 2 жыл бұрын
If I had any spare income you would be the one I'd join patron for , as alway great fact filled viewing 👍🏻 and thanks to you I got myself a welder and the first thing I built was a rocket stove and a gas bottle wood burner to keep me warm while watching you.🤘🏻👌🏼🖖🏻
@timredd
@timredd 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one Robert. As always when using any appliance with hot naked flames, caution, safety and vigilance is necessary. I came from the 1950s where open fires, paraffin lamps and heaters and even gas mantle lighting were common.
@greenthumbprepper8653
@greenthumbprepper8653 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being the voice of reason. Lots of channels are pushing the fear narrative daily
@tradermunky1998
@tradermunky1998 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 2 жыл бұрын
oh wow - thank you mate
@davidupton4730
@davidupton4730 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the videos, the no nonsense common sense is a breath of fresh air these days!
@ruthcormack1765
@ruthcormack1765 2 жыл бұрын
Just to say I have a commercial paraffin heater that purports to use a GLASS FIBRE wick, which only needs to have the eventual black oily deposits burned off by using all the fuel to empty tank. Apparently no trimming needed! Great show.
@bobsanders1690
@bobsanders1690 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these heater videos! I have a wood shop (with no heat) and I'm looking for a fuel to burn that won't produce moisture as a by product. I was using propane heater - but the moisture produced began rusting my tools. When you talk about fuels can you address this?
@KeithOlson
@KeithOlson 2 жыл бұрын
I just had a few thoughts: 1. The flames travel up the outside of the mesh. What about using multiple layers of mesh with spaces in between them? That will multiply the surface area that can be heated up and radiate IR. 2. Instead of a lid, what about using cheap stainless steel scrubbers, stacked inside the mantle? That would also increase the mass while still allowing air flow. 3. Depending on the stainless steel scrubbers available to you, can you check to see if they can be unrolled to be used as an easily-available mantle? If not, could wire be used to hold them in place so they act as a mantle while in their original form? Cheers!
@regwatson2017
@regwatson2017 2 жыл бұрын
Number 1 suggestion sounds great for Rob to check out - Will it use more oil and be hotter, use the same, or will the heat output be comparatively reduced because of the greater heating surface area required ?
@ScottyHugefellow
@ScottyHugefellow 2 жыл бұрын
@@regwatson2017 the majority of the heat will escape either way so a larger surface area would catch more that would otherwise be wasted. Pretty sure steel wool gets weird when its been heated up, im not sure what a steel scrubber is but it seems like steel wool
@denisripley8699
@denisripley8699 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScottyHugefellow Steel wool made with tiny filaments of steel (which readily oxidizes); Stainless Steel 'scrubber' filaments very much larger -----> greater thermal mass, so less likely to become red hot/vapourise. Copper scrubbers even better conduction.
@ScottyHugefellow
@ScottyHugefellow 2 жыл бұрын
@@denisripley8699 still not entirely sure what a scrubber is, unless its what appears to be a higher quality steel wool. I can test it as a thermal mesh when identified Edit: re-read your comment and it makes sense now. Thanks we'll have results soon
@denisripley8699
@denisripley8699 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScottyHugefellow Sorry Scotty.. I'm in my angloshere bubble ! A scrubber or scourer is, like you suggest, a heavy duty, durable version of steel wool, almost always made of stainless steel and unlikely to irritate bare fingers like steel wool does. It's the stuff that's also used in homemade distillation columns, although copper 'scrubbers' or mesh is a better option in that application.
@andyhiggs6932
@andyhiggs6932 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered from your store Robert! Amazon was a bit confusing. I couldn't find a product that matched your description 100%. Thank you for clarifying exactly what we need in this video.
@C-M-E
@C-M-E 2 жыл бұрын
That bit about the frothing madman over a sink gave me a hearty chuckle. I think we've all gone hooting baboon over a can of improvised chow. I do love my mandarin oranges fresh out of the can, dribbling down my face, spoon be damned! Add: It took me a few minutes to remember, but at last I did. Quite the while back, I recall doing a lot of reading about a particular nut that can grow in some exceptionally hostile conditions, which also happened to produce a huge quantity of oil that could be readily refined into a biodiesel. Something along the lines of the Jatropha curcas (not sure if I spelled that correct, it's been well over a decade mind you). Again going from recollection, it was stated to be sub-tropical but could also produce viable 'fruit' in a bucket of sand. Not an overnight solution, but the temptation still resides to try to obtain a few of the buggers...
@letterofthelaw2567
@letterofthelaw2567 2 жыл бұрын
Jay Zee has 99 problems but a heating bill ain't one
@charlesrobillard190
@charlesrobillard190 Жыл бұрын
If your crib is cold I feel bad for you son. Lmfaooooo
@JasonDiFelice
@JasonDiFelice 4 ай бұрын
I got 99 problems but hypothermia ain't one.
@NavyAssassinOnBLAST
@NavyAssassinOnBLAST 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 RFLMAO Whole new context since Diddys arrest. 😂😂
@letterofthelaw2567
@letterofthelaw2567 3 ай бұрын
@@NavyAssassinOnBLAST XD
@nowthenad3286
@nowthenad3286 2 жыл бұрын
Robert, you have to be one of the most interesting people on the planet. Why on earth do we have to have our TV schedule full of Brian Cox when you exist. They need to give you a series on the BBC!
@amounce1
@amounce1 2 жыл бұрын
Brainwashing Broadcasting Council wouldn't have him on air as he'd solve the coming winter blackouts, which is coming and will kill thousands. But, hey, I'm just a conspiracy theorist...
@archangel20031
@archangel20031 Жыл бұрын
My wife's friend was doing a hand fasting ceremony and they wanted a couple small torches, so I got a couple green twigs off a hardwood tree, wrapped it with gauze, then a bit of copper wire wrapped around it in a pleasing spiral, then doused it in 90% alcohol. When they lit it nothing but the alcohol burned so the gauze stayed bright white, the flame was visible, and they seemed to want to burn forever. When the fuel gets too low the flame gets smaller and the outer edges will start to char, so just smother it, refuel it, and relight it.
@BH-hr9tp
@BH-hr9tp 2 жыл бұрын
I grew sunflowers collected the seeds and processed them into oil, I only got 1 kilo which gave 0.5 litres of oil. Scaled up it would be worth it but you need a pretty big patch of land to get a decent amount and you could turn it into biodiesel, but the oil on its own would still burn.
@islandsedition
@islandsedition 2 жыл бұрын
that seems like a good yield for the weight. presumably the much of the left over matter is protein? how much area did you need to get the kilo of seeds?
@BH-hr9tp
@BH-hr9tp 2 жыл бұрын
I did 50 plants in an area 1m by 4 m, 8 plants died , some seeds were raided by birds , position wasn’t ideal as they didn’t get sun till midday and I didn’t feed them. The seeds were from a pet shop so I don’t know what variety they were , but it said oil seed for birds on the packet I did try to get some Petrovak seeds , that’s what the Russians and Ukrainians grow but couldn’t get hold of any. A good experiment though .if you can grow a bulk lot they store for years. Going to try rapeseed next year as well.
@islandsedition
@islandsedition 2 жыл бұрын
@@BH-hr9tp that's fantastic stuff and good luck with the rapeseed. I did see an episode of Cody's lab where he distilled oil out of a common weed in his parts. Looked a bit like ragwort, but I can't recall it exactly. How did you extract the oil?
@jor9463
@jor9463 2 жыл бұрын
@@BH-hr9tp Check out Terra Preta tutorials, if you want good soil for the future. Haven't started planting properly yet but it is a good insider tip from a bio-farm worker I know
@lsmith992
@lsmith992 2 жыл бұрын
@@islandsedition As a child, friends would be travelling to see family in Romania and they would come back with sunflower seed "cake". I think this was the residue from the oil extracion process and just pressed into cake. They loved it.
@elgorrion52
@elgorrion52 2 жыл бұрын
A great video as ever! Regarding ventilation, as a comparison Natural Gas fires fitted to a chimney only need a vent providing outside air for combustion for 7kw input or greater, the average gas fire being only 5kw, "adventitious ventilation" - draughts under doors etc - being enough. Decorative flame effect fires DO need a vent: (yellow flames = incomplete combustion). A chimney/flue is still needed for the above. I couldn't begin to calculate the input of one of these heaters, but I would favour using only the fuels that burn blue (yellow flames = incomplete combustion, soot) - then you could warm tortillas on the top bit! The fact that it's a radiant heater means you can "heat the person not the space" so you can feel the benefit quickly without depleting the oxygen in the room, but use caution with any open flame appliance, maybe get a carbon monoxide alarm, check for soot etc. Room size matters. If this sounds a bit r-c, a friend of mine died of CO poisonning by falling asleep in his campervan with the cooker on to keep warm.
@joedee1863
@joedee1863 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert your topics are becoming increasingly more practical and interesting than ever. I am dying to see your coverage on heavier oils. But my main favourite will be WASTE ENGINE OIL 👅
@andreawelsh6786
@andreawelsh6786 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for addressing the ventilation issues. I am still waiting on carbon felt being delivered and then good to go 😁😁
@dinosaur0073
@dinosaur0073 Жыл бұрын
That Jay zee 40:40:20 interesting one. Goes well with environmental issues 🤔. Thank you, Robert
@AhJodie
@AhJodie 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for adding how to put it out, and for repeating the wick material. This is great, and so dangerous for people who are going to try this in unsafe situations, but, it is cool too! Thank you!
@fontybits
@fontybits 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for elaborating on the alternative fuels. If I hadn't subscribed, I'd probably have missed this helpful info.
@leesykes9988
@leesykes9988 2 жыл бұрын
From experience make sure that botb ends of the carbon felt insert meet inside the can quiet tightly, if there is any gap here the flame will ignite the fuel contents of the bottom tin
@douglasjones5880
@douglasjones5880 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and educational..love listening to this gentleman 👌 👍
@gen81465
@gen81465 2 жыл бұрын
Where I live in the US, many people use waste vegetable oil in their furnaces, lamps, and even diesel vehicles (once processed a bit). Fast food restaurants near me actually have to pay to get rid of their fryer oil, as it's considered industrial waste. One of my friends goes to a series of local McDonalds and Burger King places, and ends up with about 100 gallons of waste fryer oil. He takes it home, filters out the sediment, and uses it in his tractor on his dairy farm. I guess it's a lot better to have the farm smell like a fish and chips shop than a cow barn.
@allenlong1445
@allenlong1445 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to finding out what this system dose with used veg oil I got lots of it Im hoping to use as a green house heater over winter as gas will be going up in price soon you love your job we love watching you do it keep it up 😜
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 2 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@nw4x4adventures
@nw4x4adventures 2 жыл бұрын
How did you get on with it mate
@allenlong1445
@allenlong1445 2 жыл бұрын
@@nw4x4adventures not started making one yet as my gas bottle still got some gas in it after i put foam flooring down helping it insulate it just doing that and the bubble wrap inside has dropped gas usage alot
@stevenjarratt2454
@stevenjarratt2454 2 жыл бұрын
Good common sense and practical engineering. Love it!
@rhiantaylor3446
@rhiantaylor3446 2 жыл бұрын
Something very pleasing about watching that red hot stainless gauze, quite apart from the heat.
@freeholdtacticalmed
@freeholdtacticalmed 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome stove system. Been burning Fancy Feast alcohol stove as a kayak camper. Yours is the same system just a step larger! I love the mantle. make a pot support and you have a reliable spirit stove for emergencies. I love it being multi-fuel as well.
@straight-narrow-path
@straight-narrow-path 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic
@Szi90
@Szi90 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Robert!
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 2 жыл бұрын
wow - cheers mate
@philbebbington1755
@philbebbington1755 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Ireland, great videos, great ideas and you speak perfect Hiberno-English too " scares the bejayziz outa you " !
@NoName-ds5uq
@NoName-ds5uq 2 жыл бұрын
This is great! In 1976 when I was little we moved into a house which only had an open fireplace for heating in one room and no insulation. We also had a portable kerosene heater. Considering we(Tasmania) have a not too dissimilar climate to England this was, shall we say, slightly insufficient. I learnt common sense around fires early. 😂 Mum used to put a bowl of water on top of the kero heater to remove the smell, but I have no idea if that really works or not.
@tuppybrill4915
@tuppybrill4915 2 жыл бұрын
Similar, grew up in a house with two open fires and several paraffin (kerosene??) heaters one of which my older brother knocked over on one occasion, it went out and didn't burn the house down.
@NoName-ds5uq
@NoName-ds5uq 2 жыл бұрын
@@tuppybrill4915 lol, I just looked it up and it seems paraffin and kerosene are the same thing. I know it can be used as jet fuel too, but it’s not as refined.
@elusiveeskimo3013
@elusiveeskimo3013 2 жыл бұрын
Flame heaters and wood stoves tend to dry out the air in rooms/homes where they are used. For this reason I have always used a bowl or pan of water placed on them, gently releasing moisture back into the air. Helps prevent the wood of my many musical instruments from drying out and cracking. Never noticed it having any effect on smells.
@mikebond6328
@mikebond6328 2 жыл бұрын
My mama would put orange peel and the like in a pan of water on the woodstove. Helped with dry air and smelled good too.
@azazel_5319
@azazel_5319 2 жыл бұрын
At the age of 6 both my parents were at work when I got home from school so my first job was to make the fire, I would light the kindling in the fireplace then wedge the coal shovel in the opening and cover it with newspaper to block out the air and draw the fire, I guess they had different rules about kids and fire in those days 😂 alternatively we had a gas poker which you could light and shove under the kindling until caught alight.
@taurielnightblade7200
@taurielnightblade7200 2 жыл бұрын
I did it in smaller version ( just recycling corn tins, saucepan lids and other stuff in kitcken ware) and it works, really works, great invention for penniless homes. for the mantle I got a piece from an old mosquito blind for windows. for the back shield aluminiun I picked from a broken quartz heater. Methane I got it in plumb or DIY stores. ( even there are outlets from work places or giving away)
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 2 күн бұрын
Small correction, Robert. Snuffing is not the same as extinguishing. When you snuff a candle, or a lamp, you are trimming its wick, both to regulate the flame size and to stop it from smoking excessively. Modern candles and most modern lamps or paraffin heaters, don't need snuffing. If you use the correct Carbon wick in that heater, it will never need snuffing, because the Carbon withstands the flame heat without burning back irregularly.
@johnstott140
@johnstott140 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for your video's, I am enjoying both the subject matter and also your presentation. I have only just found your Chanel as it came up with this heater which I am interested in. May I be so bold as to suggest that you take a look at the video's of Heath Putnam. He has spent quite some time perfecting the alcohol stove and I am positive that it will give you some food for thought. May I ask what gauge stainless mesh are you using? As I want to have a mess around myself with my various types of wood gas stoves. You can't beat "free" fuel. I use these for camping and if you have a look on KZbin you will see a great amount of interest in this. I also wonder if you would try adding some disc's of mesh horizontally across the mantel to act as flame diverters. Which I think on some of the more aggressive flames would both control them and also increase the inferred output. Keep up the good work and your jovial attitude and I will be a follower of your Chanel. Many thanks John
@juniusvindex769
@juniusvindex769 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert, been randomly watching you for a few years, subbed last week, and binge watching you every spare moment 😀 Your ventilation statement is what I needed to hear, I hear conflicting theories online. 👍🏻 I am currently looking into heating my metal shed whilst working on junk etc, you sir are a gold mine of information (I just wish my science teachers at school were as funny and informative as you) so I took biology........ 🙄 Thanks matey, I'm off to the shed 🍺
@colinsmith7233
@colinsmith7233 2 жыл бұрын
Thats just what I was going to say. x
@jimmcdonald3004
@jimmcdonald3004 2 жыл бұрын
I made an ammo can wood stove last year to heat my 8x10 metal shed. It worked great (90° at times w/o insulated walls) but had to be fed and kept an eye on. I'm going to experiment with incorporating this in the ammo can stove. I'm really curious if waste oil could be used, or maybe I'll convert the oil to biodiesel.
@Milkybar3320011
@Milkybar3320011 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmcdonald3004 hope you post a video of your improved heater
@SchwaAlien
@SchwaAlien 2 жыл бұрын
I experimented using bacon grease in a small tin can with a half-size paper towel rolled up as the wick and let it burn in a basic wood stove fireplace - it was enough heat to warm the place up quite a bit for several hours, not as much as a wood fire but it was pretty good and if I put 2-3 cans in at once that would probably get to a decent temperature... which is pretty good for using up waste, and if you had access to something like [expired/cheap] ‘vegetable shortening’ it would work too. 😉
@DFPercush
@DFPercush 2 жыл бұрын
That must have smelled amazing. 😋
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 2 жыл бұрын
There are many KZbin videos that show how to make long-lasting candles and heaters out of store-bought shortening. Having waste lard or tallow would be even better!
@QUADBOYification
@QUADBOYification 2 жыл бұрын
Its a basic Kerosine heater design with the same principal of a fluid sucking wick with a mesh around the flame. The thinner the mesh the better. Very cheap to build design you made. Ofcourse a Kerosine heater uses pressure to push Fluid through a little generator to pre-heat the Kerosine making it a evaporate into gas and burn more violently. Hence your burning time is reduced but the heat generated is more intense. Makes sense. Your system if carefully re-designed could be used in a tent and even heat a pot of water. Simply foldable (nested) into each other packed in a sturdy cylinder. The mesh is the expensive part and should be easily replaceable on the go. To glow the whole mesh (ideal) the wick should be used with a special heater head. Something that burns the full length of the mesh. Probably a tube with very tiny holes over its entire area. Genious, thanks.
@VacuumTube88
@VacuumTube88 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see the heavy fuels video, I have some filtered oil mix from frying accumulated throughout the year that is painfull to dispose and it could be nice to use it this winter for a bit of room heating, I tried it on a simpler wick and cup but it puts out a lot of smoke and i would like to see the video and read comments to get ideas for a solution to that smoke
@daviddotson2432
@daviddotson2432 2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos 100% now a part of my morning routine love the simplicity of these projects and using mostly what you have kicking around in shop keep them coming sir
@AndreaDingbatt
@AndreaDingbatt 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this information with us!! Awesome Upload 🙂👍
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 2 жыл бұрын
I am glad you like it Andrea - cheers
@georgeswampy6224
@georgeswampy6224 2 жыл бұрын
You could use a magnet to hold the tin to the base on the stand.
@RichardFarnsworth1961
@RichardFarnsworth1961 2 жыл бұрын
Magnets loose their magnetic properties if they get hot. Might not work.
@docink6175
@docink6175 2 жыл бұрын
I add a bit of epsom salt, copper sulfate , borax or table salt to make the flame a little more visible.. regular table salt will change the flames to a yellow, copper sulfate=green, borax=light green, epsom salt= orange, you can also add a copper wire at the wick top and get a blue/green flame, salt substitute/potassium chloride gives a purpleish color
@docink6175
@docink6175 2 жыл бұрын
carbon felt makes a great wick but you can just use tissue paper or a piece of cotton towel, a wrapping of cotton line etc.. I just use beach sand in my alcohol stoves... it also works with oil.. dried coffee grounds also work AND chases mosquitoes
@docink6175
@docink6175 2 жыл бұрын
another "wick" is also a safety factor, fit a roll of tissue in the can, saturate it, you can lay it on its side and no alcohol comes out... use a metal disk to control flame size, either leave a small gap around the edge or drill burn holes in the plate... the bottom of the can stays cool, you can actually pick it up (carefully)
@garywillis5790
@garywillis5790 2 жыл бұрын
Great that Robert... Thanks mate!
@Jimbo878
@Jimbo878 2 жыл бұрын
Another useful video, it's great also you've attracted a small community of inquisitive minds, i.e one of the commentors mentioned wax as a thermal storage solution 🤔, I never heard this before, and it's given me an idea to make small copper boxes/flasks and fill them with wax pellets used in moulding applications 👍🏻
@johnburrows7938
@johnburrows7938 2 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos, some peoples comment are so ridiculous it’s hard to imagine them watching your vids with any kind of serious and safety thoughts. It’s so obvious you have to be extra careful with this kind of heater. 😊
@taurielnightblade7200
@taurielnightblade7200 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot the carbon filter take the one from broken or old vaccum cleaners.
@nattsurfaren
@nattsurfaren 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining this Robert :)
@6.5x55
@6.5x55 2 жыл бұрын
WW2 my dad and his buddies heated fox holes with ration tin heaters on same principle...but petrol mixed with motor on oil. Warm but sooty.
@anniehope8651
@anniehope8651 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for answering my question on moisture.
@danieljordan4320
@danieljordan4320 2 жыл бұрын
In US - rubbing alcohol is often sold cheaply but at 50% concentration or less. Maybe a video on concentrating or ‘drying’ alcohol up to 70% with salt
@offgridwanabe
@offgridwanabe 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff and lots people can do it. Because I too am stuck on DIY and would need a fuel I could make myself would it run on Brown's Gas because I think I can make that. Keep up the good work and great videos.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 2 жыл бұрын
working on it mate - this is part of a series
@Liowen
@Liowen 2 жыл бұрын
I have been curious if you could add carbon felt to a round kerosene heater? Now I know the greenhouse heater didn't work with the carbon felt, however I wonder if it would have worked if a piece of copper tubing was used to hold the wick under the heating element. If so then the same idea could be used on a round kerosene heater and be a long term heating solution if the need arises, and as a bonus you could use other fuels if need be instead of just kerosene. Also the round kerosene heaters are kind of a mantle based heater just scaled up to 11 so it does kind of fit in with this idea.
@d.beaumont9157
@d.beaumont9157 2 жыл бұрын
Common sense is in short supply these days, love the way you make the videos idiot proof and fun at the same time.
@guyspencer4322
@guyspencer4322 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard it said that if common sense were so common you would see more of it around...
@d.beaumont9157
@d.beaumont9157 2 жыл бұрын
@@guyspencer4322 Very good, I'll have to remember that one. 😀
@Milkybar3320011
@Milkybar3320011 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as one idiot is out of action, plenty more to reply him/her, I put my brother in law in this category, heart of gold, no common sense 😂
@jimsiggy
@jimsiggy 2 жыл бұрын
"Or you just like to rub yourself a lot" lol🤣
@TheZombieSaints
@TheZombieSaints 2 жыл бұрын
"like a rat"... that made me lol 😂 Great video. Quite interesting. Well done
@artytomparis
@artytomparis 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert. You go to a lot of trouble and expense to put these together.
@Flashahol
@Flashahol 2 жыл бұрын
A stainless steel kitchen sink is a great place for testing these and there is a super great chance you'll be able to put them out from there... Plus the fan is usually pretty close.
@settlece
@settlece 2 жыл бұрын
thanks so much for all the info on this
@freeholdtacticalmed
@freeholdtacticalmed 2 жыл бұрын
Mini-stove. Fancy feast cat food can. Carbon felt. Small tomato paste can cut down to 2.25”. 4 holes around the bottom edge of tomato paste can with bottom cut off/ 3-4 small holes at the top edge prevent over pressure flush fires. 1 oz of alcohol will boil 2-3 cups of water for field rations and beverage. Wt: less than an ounce. You’ll definitely want a windscreen. Cook pot (1 liter titanium kettle/mug is best, but many people use military canteen cups with a foil/lid. I burn mine a bunch, but have been sticking with yellow bottle HEET, denatured alcohol or methylated spirits. (I’d be into a biodiesel/multi-fuel trial)…I’m making your heater tomorrow…(if I can get the mantle material)
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 2 жыл бұрын
I can tell you Robert that adding a little bit of epsom salt or table salt, say a pinch will let you see the flame better. Not perfect but it does help with the flame vision.
@Milkybar3320011
@Milkybar3320011 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea, wonder what other table condiments might work too
@prevengeix8551
@prevengeix8551 2 жыл бұрын
Borax is supposed to make a green flame
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 2 жыл бұрын
@@prevengeix8551 The test for borax burning in methanol alcohol is a vivid green flame. That is right on Prevenge nine.
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 2 жыл бұрын
@@Milkybar3320011 Maybe try Gulden's mustard. Just a wild guess, very wild for sure. Can you tell I like yellow mustard ?? Peace
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 2 жыл бұрын
@@prevengeix8551 TRUE !!!
@Gemism1
@Gemism1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert, I was wondering about the smell from burner, thanks in advance
@Milkybar3320011
@Milkybar3320011 2 жыл бұрын
To find a clean smell free combustible fuel, bit of a tall order. Hopefully someone has a solution
@mozzareller8858
@mozzareller8858 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! I'm so grateful for this Video. I already bought 2 laundry bins of chromesteel for making such a Heater. Which i'm very interested in is what's the size of the TIMESETL Mesh. The Holes. 30, 80, or 120 Mesh? What's the best for this heater?
@andrewbowden1076
@andrewbowden1076 2 жыл бұрын
E85 is next to try for me, Much cheaper than K2. Perhaps mixed with vegetable glycerin to tame it a bit.
@dixiechampagne2892
@dixiechampagne2892 Жыл бұрын
I prepaid for more e85 than my truck's fuel tank would hold. Rather than getting a refund, I put the rest in a gas can in the back. Have 3+ gallons that I'd love to burn in my kero heaters. Been running diesel with a splash of iso in the Perfection, didn't realize diesel=methanol+glycerin 🙄
@stewartpalmer2456
@stewartpalmer2456 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Smith, I see you have given precautions, here is one more, as you almost demonstrated it removing the mantle, with a highly combustible fuel source such as alcohol, if you tip it over, you will be very unhappy. might I suggest as well as your ceramic plate, a metal ballast plate and a magnet in the can bottom. Keep up the awesome teaching.
@brucereichert6509
@brucereichert6509 2 жыл бұрын
My larger heater is homemade, close to that and I use 1 % rubbing alcohol, 12% kerosene, 85% used motor oil and 2% antifreeze. It burns like a champ. Mine also has a triple cone wire mesh and a damper.
@pattiannepascual
@pattiannepascual 2 жыл бұрын
is antifreeze safe to burn indoors?
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard 2 жыл бұрын
Blimey, that's a very specific recipe. What's the thinking?
@Milkybar3320011
@Milkybar3320011 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it has a chimney to outside
@brucereichert6509
@brucereichert6509 2 жыл бұрын
@@pattiannepascual it hasn't caused any problems in 3 years and there is a chimney for the exhaust gases.
@pattiannepascual
@pattiannepascual 2 жыл бұрын
@@brucereichert6509 I will have to try it for my shed house. the fuel can't get any cheaper. wish stupid jerk tube would still allow us to post pictures.i would have loved to see your setup.i live stealth in a city so can't burn anything that produces smoke, like wood.
@TheSummersProject
@TheSummersProject 2 жыл бұрын
Could large empty paint tins be used instead. Or would that be too dangerous?
@paulwright8378
@paulwright8378 2 жыл бұрын
You know when folks get a tin of tuna an stick a wick in the middle to make a candle,would a mesh round that improve it or does the flame need to be on the outside
@Milkybar3320011
@Milkybar3320011 2 жыл бұрын
Believe the flame heats the mesh to increase the radiance heat output
@crazypayz9362
@crazypayz9362 3 ай бұрын
Will olive oil work ?
@thisisnumber0
@thisisnumber0 Ай бұрын
@@crazypayz9362 Popeye says no
@crazypayz9362
@crazypayz9362 Ай бұрын
@ what does bluto say
@user-cn2fb1so6t
@user-cn2fb1so6t 11 күн бұрын
I have some old olive oil I had when I was making soaps, I'm sure it's quite rancid, do you think a heavy oil like that can work, or should I mix it with something lighter?
@Kangsteri
@Kangsteri 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Could these be any good affitives for pellet, trash, leaf, woodchip, or other dry compressed organic waste, etc? Seems like more heat is better, so there is not that much residue or smoke to block the gimney on closed systems.
@pattiannepascual
@pattiannepascual 2 жыл бұрын
all that wood, leaves sounds like it would make a lot of smoke indoors. I tried a very small solo stove indoors. the initial lighting caused so much smoke,I had to leave my shed.
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN 2 жыл бұрын
If you're putting it into a wood stove with a flue it will work, there are video how to's on KZbin Kangsteri.
@glevideo
@glevideo 2 жыл бұрын
I'll suggest that fiberglass insulation can be used as a wicking material in place of the carbon felt. Let me ask about denatured alcohol. Is it methanol or ethanol or something in between? I can buy it in one gallon cans at the hardware store. I've used denatured alcohol for many years in my little homemade soda can cooking stoves for light weight backpacking.
@mondo2417
@mondo2417 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert.
@justinw1765
@justinw1765 2 жыл бұрын
The easiest way to vent these stoves is to create an insert for a window and put a chimney through it. For little stoves like this, a 2 to 3" or so chimney should work ok. To save money/cost, use steel for like the first foot or so, but then use Al for the rest of the pipe. Make sure you paint the chimney pipe with some kind of high temp paint to increase the emissivity (so that the IR radiates out of the pipe better).
@enkhyy
@enkhyy 2 жыл бұрын
What type of hybrid fuel would you mix to burn biodiesel in the heater?
@Johny40Se7en
@Johny40Se7en Жыл бұрын
4:46 a lot of people like to do that, regardless of having rubbing alcohol laying around. I'll show myself out 😅🤭😆😝👉 Brilliant experiment, cheers. Also, you know when there's a yellow flame, don't you get soot too, so you can't use it indoors? 🤔
@1JasonBradly
@1JasonBradly 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, not safe for children. Love the common sense advice at the end. It's an open flame device, care and respect must be applied. Like the tile you use to set the whole thing upon. Enjoyed and attained info from these videos and experiments, thank you. From, Vancouver Island Canada.
@hjjackson05
@hjjackson05 Ай бұрын
It might be helpful to provide measurement of can size. Love your videos.
@MrGeorocks
@MrGeorocks 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask if this could just be placed in a fireplace with a reflector to allow the gases to just escape up the chimney.
@shawnio
@shawnio 2 жыл бұрын
if you dont have a functioning fireplace and you havent used it in years, the flue is rusted shut
@MrGeorocks
@MrGeorocks 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnio I exclusively use the solid fuel stove these days but I did clean both at the start of autumn so it's clear at least.
@angelusmendez5084
@angelusmendez5084 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, thanks!
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 2 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@hoss3433
@hoss3433 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still trying to figure out why my inside can blew out the top of the outer can quite forcefully. Set my porch on fire and got a slight cut on the face when the can hit me. Anyone else having an issue with what appears to be a minor explosion blowing the inside can out of the outer one? As far as the carbon felt. Welding blankets from Amazon is what I used they don't burn or melt and seem to wick pretty good
@ronaldhart6362
@ronaldhart6362 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I must be the only One to fail this test.. I have made several bombs now... I don't have my wicking material as yet! Waiting... So I tried old jeans...this looked good until lift off.. So I repeated with old towel and again with a sock...same results... So I went from one small vent hole on top to multiple... Same results.. In the end I removed the top of the inner tin to stop the combustion... I'm missing something here...I thought the vapour was wanted...as part of the burn process...? I'll go sit in the corner 🤣🤣
@hoss3433
@hoss3433 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldhart6362 I am yet to be successful with it. Not sure what I'm doin wrong. I'm gonna try his newer design with the screens making the burner itself and see if I have any luck that way he said it was safer because if tipped it will go out on its own immediately something about the flame bot being able to travel through the screen. I dunno bit gonna try it
@donaldcadwell3911
@donaldcadwell3911 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if it was covered but what size mesh is recommended for the stainless steel mantel? I've seen #40 mesh and #80 mesh on Amazon. Also...in the US, what cans (products inside the cans) are recommend that works best? Thanks.
@if5566
@if5566 Ай бұрын
I dont intend to build one of these, but i was inspired to add a fire extinguisher to my cart.
@duckednk
@duckednk 2 жыл бұрын
Its the same carbon felt as the welding blanquets?
@roger2641
@roger2641 2 жыл бұрын
Do infrared heater remove toxic fumes. Is it safe to use for heat in house if home heating source goes out.
@Jtronique
@Jtronique 2 жыл бұрын
@Robert Murray-Smith, can we make a second aluminum shield to "turn down" the heating level, also thus making fuel last longer? Thanks for the guidance. - J
@alexandrunistoroiu452
@alexandrunistoroiu452 2 жыл бұрын
This would work also with used cooking oil?
@LaurenceVonThomas
@LaurenceVonThomas 2 жыл бұрын
quick question about a gravity feed for this type of burner, with methanol or ethanol, is there any danger of backfire into your reservoir if it runs out and only some gasses remain?
@maxinedurling3425
@maxinedurling3425 2 жыл бұрын
I found the carbon felt on Amazon but it says its Acrylic is that ok, Also if it goes into filters could you use an old over the hob hood filter
@johnstemp1330
@johnstemp1330 2 жыл бұрын
What's the burn time for around 200ml of each mixture. Iso prop and VG being my preferred mixture at 50/50.
@darrenaldridge7815
@darrenaldridge7815 2 ай бұрын
I'm a plumber in Australia great heater but my main concern is the carbon monoxide ,if useing a heater like this you need room ventilation.Heaters like this are banned here.
@brianhickson2537
@brianhickson2537 2 жыл бұрын
Would your heaters work with filtered used cooking oil?
@monkeyscience3973
@monkeyscience3973 2 жыл бұрын
Freezing thanks 😊
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 2 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only sink eater...
@moses5407
@moses5407 2 жыл бұрын
Fumes of concern in interior space for each fuel type?
@timteller1400
@timteller1400 2 жыл бұрын
How did you bend the aluminum reflector into this half circle form? Is it possible to do that without special tools?
@mistersync100
@mistersync100 2 жыл бұрын
Yes easly very soft
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 2 жыл бұрын
by hand around a fire extinguisher - so yes - i feel a short coming on - i'll do it for tomorrow for you mate
@DonFrankLin74
@DonFrankLin74 2 жыл бұрын
I use a 60/40 methanol water mix in my camping stove. I find it burns better. I would imagine it would work just as well in your heater.
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