(1737) Quirky Flat Lock

[@CoxysPicks]

File that key flat. Instant master key.

[@NothingPicksLocks]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@morpheon_xyz]

Yupp, same thought process here hahaha.

[@danliberty734]

Same idea 🤣

[@leeplatt9360]

@@NothingPicksLocks Yep, me to.

[@greendryerlint]

Ditto.

[@DoRC]

A key that fits on a Keychain?!? Innovation at its finest.

[@rugvedk109]

Ohh, the irony.

[@scape9104]

@Voltaic Fire If it did , I would've IPaid too much for it :)

[@frollard]

​@@mayshack With mandatory software updates that also mandatorily brick it after 2 years.

[@Linkale_]

It's sad that I didn't notice that until I read your comment... at first I was thinking that part was really cool

[@SanityDoesNotSell]

"You can't buy any quirky lock and use the key as a master key" *Buys quirky lock and grinds all the pins flat* Ok Bill...

[@teardowndan5364]

Yup, that's what I thought too as soon as I realized the bumps were static, doing about as much for security as basic warding.

[@SanityDoesNotSell]

@@teardowndan5364 Sadly, I don't even think it's as good as basic warding.

[@ethanpoole3443]

Except the joke is one you once you realize you have been hauling that darned key around for 30 years and never encountered another such lock to use it on.

[@jacobwhite7408]

What's the point of making a master key if it can be picked easier then taking the lock out of its original packaging.

[@SanityDoesNotSell]

@@jacobwhite7408 Dunno, I have little interest in something over a year ago. I believe it was just because he said you couldn't. This lock is trash and I wouldn't expect to ever run into it. I'd actually be surprised if they still make them.

[@adamwest8711]

I’m fairly sure that the floor of the lock lab is 90% springs.

[@FrozenPyro]

Doing a bit of research on this, Quirky looks to be an 'ideas company' taking submissions and working with a select few to turn said ideas into products. Looking at what I assume was the prototype or a 3d build of a first draft, the locking mechanism looked more complex than this. Having multiple levels of hills and valleys kinda like a key along the full width of the lock. I guess that was changed to better sell the 'portability' of the lock for a small bit of metal that could be pulled out and tucked away. As for Mornigsave and the price of the lock; they seem to sell a lot of Quirky products. The first listing said it was sold out, but they also showed a second listing that was the same exact thing for a 2-pack of the locks for... $80. But! They're on sale, and you can get your very own 2-pack for $10. Pretty sure that 'sale' is to give a sense of false urgency considering that the lock itself doesn't look like it'd cost a whole lot to produce.

[@JohnLeePettimoreIII]

@@LordPrecision You've figured out my fiendish plan for world domination! Curse you, Mr Bond!

[@leotam3372]

Yeah this did this wifi air conditioner with GE a few years back

[@NeedaNewAlias]

leo tam I bought all the WiFi cables! Is anyone interested in one, I’ll make a good price!

[@7o177]

@@NeedaNewAlias do these wifi cables work with 5g?

[@AstralS7orm]

They could've made it at least a lever lock...

[@htomerif]

Can't quite call this a "lock". More of an "inconvenient carabiner"

[@NickR..]

This can be said for many "high security" locks.

[@Just_A_Dude]

Still took longer to pick than a Masterlock.

[@leebrink4570]

@@Just_A_Dude only because he had to figure out how it works

[@JosephLedbetter]

@@leebrink4570 Only because it was ... Quirky

[@Rocker-1234]

@@Just_A_Dude XD should see lpls video on it XD he did it with a ziptie

[@grumpygus81]

They get points for novelty. I'd keep that key and grind the bumps off to have a master for any Quirky I came across 👍

[@junkman8742]

The master key is a probe

[@snoopdogie187]

Having a flat quirky key would be just easier. With those springs in there, the probe will need a bit of force. Plus then it also looks like this lock was yours anyway, since you have the actual key and no one will notice some dimples missing.

[@alexdavis9324]

I wouldn't expect to see any of them tbh lol

[@grumpygus81]

@@alexdavis9324 certainly not by choice or the exchange of any of my money..lol

[@merendell]

@@snoopdogie187 Its always better to be able to use the tool you have thats good enough vs wanting the perfect tool that you dont. If you carried around a "Master Key" for every niche lock with a simple bypass you'd have way more keys than you could carry. on the other hand if a probe will open 50% or more of them almost as fast you may as well just carry the probe. What are the chances of finding this particular lock in the wild vs some other lock that can be bypassed? This lock is basically security through obscurity. Chances are a person who wanted to pick it would never have seen it and would need a min or two to figure it out. Then again most thieves would just break it off as I cant imagine that would hold up to any brute force attack for longer than it took to get the tool of choice into position.

[@idkidk4334]

I love the unique locks

[@Bakamoichigei]

From the standpoint of function, it's an interesting design...it's like something one might 3D print as a fun little project. 🤔

[@helidude3502]

Might have a few niche uses to keep someone from futzing with your stuff while your back is turned or you step out of the room when actual theft isn’t a concern.

[@moconnell663]

I could see this being acceptable for LOTO use, requiring the key to re-lock it provides some additional control.

[@MinecrafterMAST3R]

Would be easy to create a master key, by grinding the pegs of the key down flat.

[@pkz420]

I was thinking the same thing. But to be fair, I don't think it claims to be anything more than a nuisance lock. It is thin and small enough that breaking it would be easy, even if it had a more sophisticated lock. It's there to keep the honest people out, not for high security.

[@MinecrafterMAST3R]

That's true, and it really wouldn't be worth the effort to create one, as you can just use a pick.

[@twentyfourtythree1190]

@@pkz420 "Breaking it would be easy." Hardened steel: hold my beer

[@Aliyah_666]

@@twentyfourtythree1190 even hardened steel breaks... One swift hammer blow.

[@JasonW.]

Finally, a thin easily carried lock to secure my lunch at work with

[@davep5698]

That's about the perfect use for it. Not super important but enough to know you have been messed with.

[@verios44]

Working from home, a beautiful thing for the IT tech nerds :)

[@craigf6277]

that you can easily bypass when you lose the key :)

[@timothyneiswander3151]

THanks to Bill, I will have your Little Debbie cake 30 seconds after you leave your lunch in the company fridge.

[@SanityDoesNotSell]

I have steak today... I'm breaking out a M5.

[@aaronshapiro2542]

Someone really needs to get this man a set of ceramic tipped tweezers so he can stop sticking to little parts and springs.

[@prjndigo]

You could stick three of those through the same pawl! 3x as secure as a master lock!

[@Gkitchens1]

First time I've seen a company build protection against using their own Keyes, but not against attacks.

[@Mister_Brown]

i mean every warded lock is this

[@noba4696]

My Vocabulary can't even begin to grasp the extent of how much I despise this kind of packaging.

[@Timooooooooooooooo]

That blister packaging is a better security measure than the lock inside of it 😆

[@fshieldsii]

Lock's website says, "Use this lock and add a _sense_ of security to your belongings..." Exactly!

[@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32]

I mean I guess the benefit is they are rare and will confuse the shit out of any lock pick wielding thief.

[@llamaloaf8134]

Problem is of course that only 1% of thieves wield picks. the other 99% come with screwdrivers and boltcutters. And i have a feeling this lock won't stand up to those for very long. lol

[@bradw0535]

As others have commented, sure seems like you could rid the dimples from the key, and have a master for these Quirky locks! Basically just a novelty. Thanks for the video Bill!

[@artemisjones3443]

They missed the perfect opportunity here, could have called it quirkey

[@snoopdogie187]

The Quirky Quirkey

[@twjohnson1203]

Oh, I see what you did?

[@gragreiser1501]

I just came here to say that.

[@mrpowdercoater]

You missed an opportunity, you just gave it to them (or someone). You should get paid.

[@SDHoF]

I feel like you could just cut the shackle with a pair of regular wire snips, considering how thin it is.

[@BCM1959]

Cute little item. Not sure what use it is but it will probably sell. Have a good day and enjoy the weekend.

[@lordkureto7852]

Sooo this is a warded lock that's super bypassable?

[@s0nnyburnett]

Yes.

[@flatfingertuning727]

The warding could have been made much more effective if the lock had to be squeezed in order for the key to actuate the mechanism, and squeezing the lock would push warding through holes in the key. If the possible ward placements overlapped, punching away enough of the key to dodge all possible warding would leave the active end of the key detached from the bow.

[@lockhenge1752]

Always enjoy seeing your approach to something out of the ordinary...

[@medina5k]

Amazing what someone can do with small redesigns with a sidebar!

[@lyfandeth]

Easy to pick, but a very thin compact way to tamper proof things like a daypack in casual use someplace. That does kinda fill a nice niche!

[@LegalLockPicker]

Just got the same thing in the mail, good upload. Well done

[@MrJools70]

That`s a great looking thing though regardless of it`s ease of open,One for a collection of ``quirky locks`` for sure :)

[@_BangDroid_]

Reinforced ziptie is better security

[@billcarson1966]

Was that lock sturdy or flimsy? Considering how thin it is, I can't imagine it would be hard to brute force it. A simple screw driver and some twisting would probably pop that sucker right off.

[@ferrumignis]

Looks very flimsy to me, maybe even weak enough to defeat without any tools. The thin sections of the hasp that slide into the lock body look weak enough to bend by hand a few times until it snaps off through metal fatigue.

[@roku_nine]

0:29 it says hardened steel.

[@josephdanielwest9500]

MasterMAT hardened steel or not just get a flat head or really anything and it Will snap off

[@AlcerusOfficial]

Locks keep honest people honest. That's it.

[@mh_vegas]

At first I was like, well that's just a super easy bypass, this lock is useless. But really, it's probably fine for some purposes and it is a neat design.

[@facedeer]

Indeed, I suspect the purpose behind making it so conveniently portable is so that you'll have a lock on hand when the only option is no lock at all. Put your stuff in locker and stick this on it and at least then the first person to come along won't just walk away with it.

[@AlagomSwede]

​@@ShootBigBucks It's what I would call a "claim ownership" lock; it doesn't protect something any more than just saying "that's mine" would, but there are plenty of cases where that is sufficient.

[@jackdaniels7913]

Keeping honest people honest 😂 good fun! 🥃cheers🍻

[@mal13able]

haha loved this cool little thin lock,and how you are so intuitive at all makes and models because of your past experiance ,cheers all the best Mal in BC

[@johndododoe1411]

So you're that mal1ci0u5 guy from "Bring Cash" ?

[@RiddleTime]

The example was really nice with the colors, try green instead of black maybe. Cool stuff!

[@xpndblhero5170]

That thing looks like a harsh insult would unlock it..... But for some reason I can relate to it trying its best. You go quirky lock.... 😁🔒

[@DonzLockz]

A+ for thinking out of the lock box. Alien technology. I'd like to get one for the quirkiness. 😃✌

[@RWBHere]

So any flat piece of metal with the correct shape will open the lock. But it looked so flimsy that a sharp twist would probably break it anyway. Definitely quirky. Junk, but quirky. Thanks Bill.

[@ArmedTechs]

I understood it when I saw it exactly how it worked. Those dimples are like the key bidding it won't allow another key to be inserted the match the bidding on inside and outside on the key.

[@firesurfer]

bitting not bidding.

[@chuckoneill2023]

Basically a warded lock. So file the bumps down, you’ve got a skeleton key.

[@noahway13]

It is like a warded lock, The dimple act as the wards, you have to have the right shapes or it will get stopped by dimples.

[@blueto16]

Reminds me of warded locks or whatever they’re called... the problem is that the key checks if it’s the right lock, not the lock checking if the key is correct, allowing for very low skill attacks/skeleton keys

[@TurboNitroMonkey]

That's a great way to word it.

[@markgallistel9456]

Could the dimples be a modern version of a warded lock? As with all these types, they're nice toys.

[@proberts34]

Thanks for the video, Bill. Fun lock. Great channel. I have a personal request for you to consider. . . Please slow your onscreen movements and don't flip things back and forth so fast. When zoomed in as close as you get in these videos, it's often difficult to see things when they're flipping and twisting around on the screen. And when you draw our attention to something with phrases like "look how thin that is", hold steady for a couple seconds so we can orient and focus. Thanks.

[@firesurfer]

Use the < or > buttons on a keyboard to frame advance when paused. (above the period or comma) not the left, right buttons.

[@billdunkjr]

it you were to grind off all the dimples on the key, I would think that would become a master key.

[@johndododoe1411]

Actual skeleton key

[@frankbiz]

Good push picking. Interesting mechanism but as far as security goes it probably can be twisted off.

[@davekreskowiak3258]

It would appear that you can just sand the dimples off of any key and that makes it a master for any of these locks. Worth a test?

[@firesurfer]

Add a clear plastic cover to show how the mech works. It will at least make a display piece.

[@Cl-2048]

I've never seen a lock quite like that. It's very flat, uses a grid of dimples, non-turning core, uniquely shaped key...

[@MiklosGalicz]

You should get a Bosch package opening chainsaw, like the one AvE has got :D

[@roysammons2445]

I am still chuckling at the strong arm on the back of the packaging saying it's strong.

[@JohnLeePettimoreIII]

Maybe Bill could file the key flat and see if it still operates the lock (or a different one). Basically, it looks like another attempt at a warded lock.

[@AlbertLebel]

That fork on the key was a hint. I would guess the dimples are just key control if anything at all

[@towerclimber7277]

Would that be considered a type of warding? Interesting design

[@twjohnson1203]

I think the people who make the package should go into the lock manufacturing business... and vice versus.

[@rbondy008]

My curiosity natures loves these cut aways. Thanks

[@johnnysox5813]

What if you grind knobs off the key, then may work on ANY Quirky flat lock?

[@zwz.zdenek]

It wouldn't have taken much to put the tensionable part of the pawl further away from that blue detent. Having to stick two picks in working on different spots would have been a big improvement against casual pickers. And making the position of the tensionable part variable while blocking the rest would even prevent a master key from being made.

[@marc96able]

But what if you grind down the bumps on your key, would that not turn it into a master key ?

[@gratefulot360]

I I think that this lock was sent to you by one of their competitors. I enjoy your channel, Thank’s Bill!

[@twjohnson1203]

And you are said competitor? 🤔

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

Cool Lock. Low security, but what do you expect from something you could break with a screwdriver.

[@grapsorz]

yes you can use a Quirky lock key an duse it in all other lock's.. just grind down all the dimples first ;)

[@likebot.]

Of course you _could_ grind down the little tabs to turn any Quirkey into a master key.

[@thisoldboy4111]

That inro is dope, bill should be a let's player

[@loz11968]

Looks like the packaging is harder to get open than the lock

[@GRAYgauss]

High thought: Lock that works by using a Vs pin array and Gnd pin on the body and make the key an embedded monolithic zener dode network and with precision multipoint uF / mA delta instruments... It would be diabolic... Or a gradient biased doping. Good luck on those tolerances ;) You could maybe measure them simply if the contact grid was of a small dimension...But theoretically you'd still have to take many measurements. What, like, !(dimension^3) permutations, i may be botching that? But however many permutations, depending on design you would need to measure a large and arbitrarily(to technical/financial limits) granular range for your arbitrarily many point measurements... Just modelled a mock up version in ltspice, works as intended, key and receiver...would totally work, probably already some patents out there it's so simple.gotta check.

[@amateurshooter6054]

Thanks

[@spraggerdogwilko333]

What if I took my lighter out my pocket and heated the blue bit would that melt and let the lock undo?.

[@firesurfer]

No. It's not plastic.

[@muh1h1]

It takes longer to open this packaging without a knive or scissors than it takes to open the actual lock without a key ^^

[@dragonblast9805]

Hi. Noob here. I'm looking to get one of the LearnLockPicking locks as a first lock to get started with. Would anyone recommend the 6 pinner for the wider key-way or the 7 for the slightly more restricted one. Thanks for any info.

[@stevensenlacere1619]

grind off all them nubs = instant master key. Masterlocks newest lock!

[@monstercyberdemonskickesli3247]

Hello bill is possible to do a review of the new multipick elite 28 lockpicks from christina palmer ?

[@andyd2960]

Good for low security I guess it's better than nothing. I really wish they'd have put more effort into it. It's like a great product that never met the finish line. So much potential if they used those dimples right and changed the locking mechanism.

[@rosedruid]

So grinding the quirky lock dimples off would make a master key for their locks.

[@AnthonyBowman]

If you ground ALL the pegs off the key, wouldn't it work in any other Quirkey lock?

[@GavinColbourne]

I think a master key could be possible if the dimples were ground down?

[@potatosordfighter666]

In essence, this is really a warded lock but they put it together weirdly.

[@demonzero677]

Honestly the dimples on it are under used as hell. Like if there was a plate with spring loaded pins, that when the key was first inserted caused the pins to free the whole plate, and the whole plate had to move with the little blue mechanism pointed out in the video, it might have been an actual lock. Still, useful for like a backpack lock to keep someone from subtly snooping on it as easily.

[@agvulpine]

Wish you had talked about the dimples on the opposite side of the key, and how they're just decoration. And, as others have said, it would have been nice if you filed down the warding dimples on the key and made yourself a Quirky skeleton-key.

[@jainouye]

Reminds me of a classic warded lock

So it is flat 2D version of the *warded lock*?

[@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse]

Not a great security device but it would have any airport security checks reaching for the croppers.

[@parapicktog7734]

I wonder what happens when ya force a screwdriver or a strong knife blade into the keyway then twist and pry. Forget the pick, just jam a tension wrench in there and spring it.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

So this is 1 pin implementation of pin tumbler lock and the correct lift height for that single pin is to push it fully in. Talk about security by obscurity!

[@999wilf999]

When I saw the video title I assumes you were describing the lock as quirky, rather than that being it's name! Seems to be basically a warded lock, with an unusual type of key. And about as secure as warded locks usually are.

[@tin2001]

So it basically works on the "security by obscurity" principal... Which IT people also refer to as "having no security".

[@FokkerBoombass]

If it provided any actual security it would've been perfect for my gym, you're required to bring your own lock to secure your locker.

[@penfold7800]

Gerda sell 30mm double locking ALL STAINLESS steel padlocks for £9. (I got one from eBay). It's rounded on the edges too (and it's a 5 pinner). Perfect for putting in your pocket or keeping on your gym bag cos it won't rust from sweat (and it's a pretty looking thing). Yes it can be picked, but the keyway is too small for cheap Chinese picks and it's a little paracentric, so heaps better than a master lock.

[@LtKernelPanic]

Low security but still a neat little lock.

[@jonasthemovie]

So, is this picking or bypassing?

[@NothingPicksLocks]

Nice video Bill, thanks as always for showing people what to avoid 😁

[@taududeblobber221]

Happy retirement!

[@dasy2k1]

Now if you actually had a set of 2 position pins that lined up with those bumps that would actually be fairly secure and probably a PITA to pick

[@johnmorgan1629]

Looks like this might be tougher... ...Oh no wait Bills got it, from now on 2 seconds your in.

[@timhenwood747]

You could of course buy one and file the key flat

[@AstroBlakeD]

tbh i think i could just be able to bend the hook off it or atleast get it to unhindge or snap-in pieces with my bare hands also a flat enough stick would be able to pick this thing.

[@parapicktog7734]

Well...they named it right. It IS a quirky little thing.

[@14768]

I bet they regret sending that to you now.

[@scottymediamachine1013]

All I know is that if I ever make a lock company I am not sending it to him.😂😂

[@Sirenhound]

If they did, it's not a bad idea. I'd rather buy from a lock company that encourages this and listens to feedback than one that just makes security claims without any proof. I wouldn't be buying this particular lock though.

[@Djslackx]

Morningsave is a deal-a-day type site for closeout stuff. The lock is there because Quirky had an overstock of them, and I think they were selling them 2 for $10. I bet one of the customers who is a fan of Bosnian Bill sent it for fun.

[@matthewmiller6068]

@@scottymediamachine1013 dunno, get free R&D testing and told why its bad...then revise and try again

[@CodeKujo]

At least the shackle can't be shimmed?

[@penfold7800]

Weird. Definitely quirky. I wonder what it's meant for? Maybe to prevent someone stealing your bag for life off from your shopping trolley hook?

[@metamorphicorder]

Bill, the kinda guy to miss an opportunity to collab with doug demurro.