(1778) Review: IglooHome Smart Lock

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BosnianBill

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@Genthar
@Genthar 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Finally an e-lock that is not a security joke!
@MrTStat
@MrTStat 4 жыл бұрын
@Based Blonde Guy some deleted comment as it seems
@XxShantilisxX
@XxShantilisxX 4 жыл бұрын
Someone has been paying attention to everything you said is wrong with other locks. This seems like a great lock. Great review as always.
@sylviaaugustine8849
@sylviaaugustine8849 Жыл бұрын
We ended up exchanging this model for the slimmer version kzbin.infoUgkx0jZ_lGlDVJhDnmagEU8gn47cmfPNlLQU because it was too wide for the only door trim area that made sense to mount it on. However, we should have just noted the dimensions prior to purchasing. Otherwise, we love the doorbell. It works perfectly, and the video is very clear, even at night.
@twjohnson1203
@twjohnson1203 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a lock swell with pride more than this guy the more Bill talked about him.
@beachsandinspector
@beachsandinspector 4 жыл бұрын
a electronic lock that is recommended by Bill I wonder if LPL would like this as well ?
@VGScreens
@VGScreens 4 жыл бұрын
3, 2, 1... bolt cutters
@haldyordan2316
@haldyordan2316 4 жыл бұрын
@@VGScreens no sport 😅 at all
@haldyordan2316
@haldyordan2316 4 жыл бұрын
Hardened shackles by pewag, take a shot at that 😁
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade 4 жыл бұрын
The internet connection to these is the bit that I'd be the most concerned about. The rest of this stuff is relatively easy, but the software is always a weak spot.
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 4 жыл бұрын
@@VGScreens it's openable hy physical means but so is every lock.
@mikestone9129
@mikestone9129 4 жыл бұрын
This could be the lock I've been looking for. I have a garage that I share with a friend and he's constantly losing or forgetting his key. And if it passes your quality control, it'll work for me.
@SaNjA2659
@SaNjA2659 4 жыл бұрын
I like how the security screw is deliberately made very shallow so that it strips before you can force it to turn.
@bstrickler
@bstrickler 4 жыл бұрын
One of the few times I hop something is made of pot metal.
@dragade101
@dragade101 4 жыл бұрын
I think it would be worthwhile to crack one open to understand the physical weakness of this lock (knowing if there is a reason to access the back panel)
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 4 жыл бұрын
Why not make it entirely code access? Type in the battery change pin and it pops pops open the back. No need to bundle a screwdriver.
@dragade101
@dragade101 4 жыл бұрын
​@@johndododoe1411 i think the back door is a gimmick. Like that compartment feels shielded enough, so they really dont need to lock it as much as they do
@matthewellisor5835
@matthewellisor5835 4 жыл бұрын
@@dragade101 Maybe to avoid some punk "pranking" you. It could get annoying to have to keep a 9v in the car "just in case he stole my battery again"
@Penske_Logistics_Roseburg-Ore
@Penske_Logistics_Roseburg-Ore Жыл бұрын
I bought this lock and used it for 2 years love it. Just today, I bought the Igloohome lock2 and using it too, I like the fact that it can be charged up with USB C and the charge last 9 months. I paid $160 for mine.
@seanrutter3470
@seanrutter3470 4 жыл бұрын
This lock is awesome! I didn't know that these kind of locks existed. I locksmithed for someone else 20 years ago and have been getting back into it recently with people needing work done. Mostly family but most recently my current boss. Thank you for your channel and content. You're my go to guy.
@bstrickler
@bstrickler 4 жыл бұрын
This would be an amazing lock for the community toolbox I'm working on making for work. This would see heavy use, and allow me to set a code for each mechanic, rather than have to master key a lock.
@Ostsol
@Ostsol 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Sounds like it was designed as a lock, first; tech gadget, second.
@PanduPoluan
@PanduPoluan 4 жыл бұрын
Agree! Too many companies focus on the Wow!Tech aspects and ignore the core purpose.
@Verlisify
@Verlisify 4 жыл бұрын
This is a VERY impressive product
@peteremmet4093
@peteremmet4093 4 жыл бұрын
After showing this vid to a friend, I think he might have ended up buying one for his shed! I only just found Bosnian Bill myself, otherwise i would have tried to win him this one! ;D
@tomdickharry673
@tomdickharry673 4 жыл бұрын
Hey what’s up it’s so cool to see a fellow gamer KZbinr on this channel
@kalelhank1924
@kalelhank1924 3 жыл бұрын
a trick : you can watch movies on Flixzone. Been using it for watching a lot of movies lately.
@kashtonpeter6462
@kashtonpeter6462 3 жыл бұрын
@Kalel Hank yea, I've been watching on flixzone} for years myself :D
@GregM
@GregM 4 жыл бұрын
Wow nice to see a company that actually took the time and effort to design a lock that actually is worth buying. Loved the review.
@Penske_Logistics_Roseburg-Ore
@Penske_Logistics_Roseburg-Ore 4 жыл бұрын
I just received my Igloo Lock and programmed it and Love it. I'm going to use this on the back of my Bobtail Truck, Roll up door.
@stevenhodgson834
@stevenhodgson834 4 жыл бұрын
There really is no greater accolade for a lock than Bill giving it his approval. I bet the manufacturers were high-fiving each other once they saw this video!
@xntumrfo9ivrnwf
@xntumrfo9ivrnwf 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to get my hands on this to evaluate the security from the software side... I have a feeling it will not disappoint but software is often the shortcoming in electronic [insert widget here] Edit: for context, I'm currently researching how secure various IoT style devices are (spoiler: atrociously), both from the hardware and software side, but it looks like BB already took care of the hardware side :)
@tyrgoossens
@tyrgoossens 4 жыл бұрын
@@marionette5968 Or like the guy who at one point could send commands to every Tesla car out there. The potential for mayhem is huge. Yeah cybersecurity is hard.
@JoeHamelin
@JoeHamelin 4 жыл бұрын
@@marionette5968 I'll put a Nest in my house when it can load the wood stove and start the fire.
@carpdog42
@carpdog42 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect it will disappoint when we start asking how it works from anywhere in the world? Who else can unlock it remotely and what protections stop them? If the cloud access is hacked, do they key the keys to the entire kingdom of similar locks? I fear these sort of devices have simply found a way to sweep their real security issues under the rug.
@Motor_Cackle
@Motor_Cackle 4 жыл бұрын
@@carpdog42 If I don't know who can control it, then it's a no-go for me.
@tigerground
@tigerground 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Carpenter there is no cloud connection on these. Cannot be remotely hacked. But sure, maybe a really skilled hacker could hack it through Bluetooth if that is even possible.
@AJISFREAKENAWESOME
@AJISFREAKENAWESOME 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a lock manufacturer that has been watching you and LPL. This is the E-Lock I’ve been looking for. Happy to see a company finally do it right!
@Penske_Logistics_Roseburg-Ore
@Penske_Logistics_Roseburg-Ore 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, I just bought this lock just now and will try it on my Bobtail Truck Roll up back door, I hope it fits. I like the Idea of not having to reach for the keys many times a day to open up the rollup door on the bobtail truck.
@Lizlodude
@Lizlodude 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see an electronic lock that doesn't suck for a change.
@frankbiz
@frankbiz 4 жыл бұрын
That gives hope that some lock manufacturers are paying attention to security. Great review, you always are a pleasure to watch. 👍🏻
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not in the habit of liking stuff before i watch the whole of it, but this time i pressed that like way before end time. Great work, and a great review
@panman1545
@panman1545 4 жыл бұрын
About 10% of Amazon reviews suggest issues with outdoor battery life and water ingress after about a month - can this be tested?
@teancoffee208
@teancoffee208 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah- buy it, spray it with water for different amounts of time and see how long it takes to stop working
@nocalsteve
@nocalsteve Жыл бұрын
I bought two of these and they came with silicone covers that cover the whole lock and allow you to push the buttons.
@Alex_dlc
@Alex_dlc 4 жыл бұрын
I imagine after this video came out this lock started selling like crazy.
@zwz.zdenek
@zwz.zdenek 4 жыл бұрын
Every product a renown youtuber approves of becomes sold out for years.
@OverTheVoids
@OverTheVoids 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, he's only got near 20,000 views right now so I doubt it was selling like crazy. He did say it was a $100 which is even more of an incentive for people to stay away from it since not that many would be willing to pay that kind of price for a single lock.
@nekminutee
@nekminutee 4 жыл бұрын
@@OverTheVoids ur kidding right? do you know how much abloy locks cost..
@Walking_withGod27
@Walking_withGod27 3 жыл бұрын
@@OverTheVoids All a known KZbin has to do is hint at a product and they are gone in minutes.
@nicolek4076
@nicolek4076 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see what a "cyber-security" expert makes of it. How well-secured are the communications?
@CyberVeggie
@CyberVeggie 4 жыл бұрын
If it's secure now it most likely will not be in the future. Physical security will always rule.
@adhimahajan
@adhimahajan 2 жыл бұрын
It's AES-128 bit encrypted
@nicolek4076
@nicolek4076 2 жыл бұрын
@@adhimahajan You can still make a mess of securing communications, no matter how difficult the cipher being used, if you don't know what you're doing.
@johncage3025
@johncage3025 4 жыл бұрын
This was a welcome surprise for sure, not a piece of plastic that falls apart right away.
@22k203902
@22k203902 4 жыл бұрын
6:15 you need to be within Bluetooth range to remotely unlock it, it doesn’t seems to have WiFi.
@PanduPoluan
@PanduPoluan 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, that's a good info. I still have zero trust in IoT / Internet-connected security devices. But Bluetooth connection is kinda okay.
@xoniq-vr
@xoniq-vr 4 жыл бұрын
You could have a device nearby working as a relay. You connect to that device and that one connect via bluetooth. A bit like how HomeKit works. An iPad in your home or Apple TV connects to devices in your home, and that way you can connect to HomeKit from anywhere without opening ports on your router and stuff.
@SamGib
@SamGib 4 жыл бұрын
Just checked on official page. It is Bluetooth and PIN. No WiFi.
@ryanwilson_canada
@ryanwilson_canada 4 жыл бұрын
Have you been drinking? I've never seen you actually approve a smart lock. Hahahaha Great as always. Hope everyone is staying safe.
@Madlintelf
@Madlintelf 4 жыл бұрын
Nice a company that learned from everyone else's mistakes, have a good one Bill!
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 4 жыл бұрын
This one makes a refreshing change. Thanks Bill.
@nbrowser
@nbrowser 4 жыл бұрын
Takes a lot to impress Bosnianbill, finally a company that got more right than one would expect...nice lock!
@bjglesener
@bjglesener 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for everything you have done for us. Happy Retirement, Sir!
@MalinaM1
@MalinaM1 3 жыл бұрын
Man I'm so sorry I wasn't Subscribed until now but your one of the best I come from LockPicking Lawyers channel and he has recommended you many times but here I am also love your video you made i'm for sure gonna pick this one up your like the pros pro meaning you are not only a pro but i'm sure people whom are pros look up to you... May have over exaggerated there but none the less
@hydorah
@hydorah 4 жыл бұрын
The only problem with any product that depends on an app for any part of its functionality, is that that app only works as long as it's maintained. As soon as the company that made it moves on / folds or whatever, that's the end of that aspect of the product - unless you keep an ever increasing pile of legacy equipment, for chatting to old hardware via obsolete apps! For all 'smart' products l think it remains to be seen how smart a purchase they actually are, even if they don't fall apart when you look at them sternly. I'd say always ensure at least basic functionality is present without app support and be aware that support could disappear at any time, that's before we even get into software security
@ericleung8172
@ericleung8172 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this lock sounds super awesome! Legit to the max!
@Subgunman
@Subgunman 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Mas Hamilton combo lock I fitted to my safe years ago. Can get all sorts of reports as well as having a duress code with alarm output. I fitted one to a friends safe as well who wanted it interfaced to a claymore. No problem! The problem is for the individual who tries to open the safe. They will have a blast!
@sunbonanza
@sunbonanza Жыл бұрын
I thought about digital algorithmic pin locks about 10 years ago, but I am just glad they available on the market after years of googling for them.
@McTAnGuS
@McTAnGuS 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive little lock
@xXDeltaXxwhotookit
@xXDeltaXxwhotookit 4 жыл бұрын
Now the question: is their wall mount key box up to the same standard...? (or a nice 'dumb' key box that isn't a major security hole)
@LockpickingsGal
@LockpickingsGal 4 жыл бұрын
This would be so amazing!! I need more locks like this!!
@tunespt
@tunespt 4 жыл бұрын
I think manufacturers are really paying attention to video reviews :) Bill recomending an e-lock! First time? :D
@matthewellisor5835
@matthewellisor5835 4 жыл бұрын
That looks like a fun one on which to try a MitM attack or power analysis on the backup contacts. Not in the threat model of your typical user but I'm interested if they've covered that attack surface.
@StyxHackshop
@StyxHackshop 4 жыл бұрын
Real keen to see what this thing looks like, and how it behaves during various functions, on its LAN.
@TheOfficialOriginalChad
@TheOfficialOriginalChad 4 жыл бұрын
I seriously doubt a MitM would work out here. HSTS and DNSSEC are too easy to implement into infrastructure this day n age.
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 4 жыл бұрын
MitM would be a pretty advanced. It really requires both planing and time to get the opportunity to intercept the communication and then skill and time to break the encryption. Still interesting to see how hard it would be. Power analysis would probably prove another hard one as it has that internal capacitor that would if not totally mask then at least smooth out the power draw significantly masking the internal working. I think that with the right programming it would be possible to make a power analysis attack impractical if not even impossible. My idea is to buffer the code entry and perform a code verification only once all numbers has been entered. That way no fluctuation should be detectable as the code is entered. Also the code analysis should set a go and a no go flag for each of the numbers, that way the power draw will be the same for a valid digit as for an invalid digit. With some thought to the hardware side it should be possible to almost entirely mask any power fluctuations coming from the electronics.
@matthewellisor5835
@matthewellisor5835 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheOfficialOriginalChad Too easy, sure; Still, rare to find implemented properly.
@matthewellisor5835
@matthewellisor5835 4 жыл бұрын
@@blahorgaslisk7763 Absolutely correct. When have you seen engineers for a consumer product bother? If they do, someone higher up forces either time constraints or demands pinching .03/unit and security be dam ned.
@tomherron4334
@tomherron4334 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you test out their other products. If their deadbolt is as well thought as this it would be perfect for an AirBnB.
@donpyers3638
@donpyers3638 4 жыл бұрын
I’d be interested in a review of their smart deadbolt. Seems to have all the features of the padlock but also has a key override. Would like to know how difficult picking the lock would be.
@novo1178
@novo1178 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent E lock Bill! Who would of ever thought that was possible. Thanks for the review Bill!!!!
@ukdnbmarsh
@ukdnbmarsh 4 жыл бұрын
Bosnianbill the best sales rep for your company :)
@rarbiart
@rarbiart 4 жыл бұрын
Airbnb hosts would like this on a wallbox. Finally a good locking mechanism plus all the features you like to have!
@ruhtraleoj
@ruhtraleoj 3 жыл бұрын
Igloohome has a deadbolt version that works with Airbnb directly
@tigerground
@tigerground 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I've been eagerly awaiting an honest review for this!
@jameschamberlain9813
@jameschamberlain9813 4 жыл бұрын
Wow what a cool smart lock. I need one of these in my life. Great review Bill !!!!
@jianfonglui4425
@jianfonglui4425 4 жыл бұрын
Nice idea of the removal shackle, if needed to cut the shackle, the lock can still be reuse.
@user-rw3qq2sr1z
@user-rw3qq2sr1z 4 жыл бұрын
That lock is awesome! 😎
@alanclarke7868
@alanclarke7868 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, and i love the selective entry timing capabilities etc.
@CDP135Z
@CDP135Z 4 жыл бұрын
Love the “Approved” designation. Do they make a similar door lock?
@sferg9582
@sferg9582 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Any thoughts of how resistant it would be to freezing and water penetration? Would it be suitable for northern climates in the winter?
@malikto1
@malikto1 4 жыл бұрын
Bill, you gotta check their deadbolt lock too. It has a key entry in addition to the pin and app that I suspect is pickable. Is it worth buying?
@donnierobertson3088
@donnierobertson3088 4 жыл бұрын
Great job and video like always
@Mutisi0n
@Mutisi0n 4 ай бұрын
This even makes cooler sounds than than Master Lock's.
@realberserkpanda
@realberserkpanda 4 жыл бұрын
Got to be honest I was surprised to see the green "Approved!" seal over a e-lock when opening my subscription tab on youtube!
@TheDarkLordSano
@TheDarkLordSano 4 жыл бұрын
Okay. I'm curious on the door line of IglooHome's products now!
@horseshoe_nc
@horseshoe_nc 4 жыл бұрын
That is definitely a surprise to see you give an approval rating on electronic lock.
@108CAM
@108CAM Жыл бұрын
My local tennis club recently replaced their old Lockwood 334’s with a weatherproof version of this lock so that the club members could access the courts without the need for new keys to be cut. When I first saw the locks, I thought that they wouldn’t last very long because of weaknesses in other similar locks but upon watching this video, my opinion completely changed. Hopefully they remember to change the batteries so the members don’t get locked out.
@axemeagain2554
@axemeagain2554 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive lock!
@GAIS414
@GAIS414 11 ай бұрын
Would be really cool to have a feature which measures continuity through the shackle, and sends an alarm if the circuit is broken without the lock being open.
@aihtdikh
@aihtdikh 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see that you used the date in ddmmyy format for the demo pin - I thought people in the US all thought in terms of mmddyy!
@Jester-Riddle
@Jester-Riddle 4 жыл бұрын
Well spotted !
@freedomfreedomfreedom
@freedomfreedomfreedom 4 жыл бұрын
impressive lock
@js1600
@js1600 4 жыл бұрын
Wow awesome lock. 🙏🏻
@-Be4st-
@-Be4st- 4 жыл бұрын
Please send one to LPL so that we can finally see the video title "Lock opened with blade of grass" or "Lock opened with nothing but air" lol
@aierce
@aierce 4 жыл бұрын
They are at similiar skill levels
@WilliamHaggerty
@WilliamHaggerty 4 жыл бұрын
Intersting stuff, you are right, they put some thought into it.
@MrFmiller
@MrFmiller 4 жыл бұрын
All those features would be great for a door lock.
@tonyholt90
@tonyholt90 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely a cool lock 👍
@hypnoboutique
@hypnoboutique 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that you enter the date the UK way ddmmyy 👀. Nice review, thank you!
@jamiemoore2550
@jamiemoore2550 4 жыл бұрын
At 3minutes 57 seconds, am I the only one who thought B.B was going to tell us how far in the future he is to us Normies, but I should know better than that by now,anyhoo great video MR.B.B and hello from Wales..🐉🔥🐉
@PitotHeat
@PitotHeat 4 жыл бұрын
Nice hardware. As a software nerd I would love to see a software audit of this thing. IOT devices frequently fail miserably (inc bluetooth) on the security front...but who knows. Maybe they did a great job with software security as well. Maybe.
@onsenguy
@onsenguy Жыл бұрын
i've owned and used this lock daily for 2 yrs for gym use. it's a heavy and very nice lock. it will definitely dissuade the average thief, who would rather pick or shim the multitude of master locks in a gym locker room setting. however, this lock may have limited protection against a physical attack like prying/twisting or a double wrench.
@miharix
@miharix 4 жыл бұрын
If it can be remotely opened from enywhere, how does lock connect to IglooHome servers? Do you input WiFi credentials? Does it include SIM card? And if so can it be configured to connect to private server?
@thespectator2976
@thespectator2976 4 жыл бұрын
Finaly something what Bill say, APROOOOOOVED :)
@alexanderelderhorst2107
@alexanderelderhorst2107 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. A replacable shackle for overtime damage or an attempted break in, remembers the codes even after replacing the battery, that intelligent design with the 9 volt battery charge for emergencies, the inability to access the battery and no way to access the internal parts through the battery, the ability to unlock it through wifi from anywhere in case someone you trust needs access to the stuff, duration pins, this piece is amazing and I want one.
@Masirah1
@Masirah1 4 жыл бұрын
After looking at the FCC document of the lock, I have some doubts about the metallic pin left center of the battery compartment. It looks like it is connected to reprogramming or bypass button in the circuit board. In this video the pin is not the and you can access the button with paper clip. If the rubber in the back cover is open also, then you will need paper clip only!!!
@aierce
@aierce 4 жыл бұрын
But you can't access battery compartment without unlocking the lock first
@Masirah1
@Masirah1 4 жыл бұрын
@@aierce maybe the battery compartment is made of rubber
@Rocker-1234
@Rocker-1234 3 жыл бұрын
@@aierce that security screw is a tiny diamiter you can see that hen he opens it and it shows the locking paul. if you could get leveratch under an edge it would snap really easily i reckon
@triple-s2918
@triple-s2918 2 ай бұрын
Great Informative Video
@pyratemage
@pyratemage 4 жыл бұрын
That is one heck of a lock! Do they make deadbolts too?! Thanks, Bill!!
@PanduPoluan
@PanduPoluan 4 жыл бұрын
They make the IglooHome Smart Deadbolt 02
@progandy
@progandy 4 жыл бұрын
They have mortise locks, deadbolt locks, padlocks and keyboxes, all with the same mechanism.
@JohnADoe-pg1qk
@JohnADoe-pg1qk 4 жыл бұрын
The weak point for the user over a long time (years) might be the battery cover because if you forget that it can only be opened if the lock is open you can easily deform the security screw(?) with the tool. A sticker or tag on the tool to remind you of this would be good. But they did really put a lot of good features and thoughts together for a reasonable price.
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 4 жыл бұрын
I think I'll stick to ABUS disc locks for my gates, as there is no internet connection to worry about, or software to worry about being hacked.
@SkunkTreeCarvings
@SkunkTreeCarvings 4 жыл бұрын
great review... i like all the options at this price point.
@kamencic
@kamencic 4 жыл бұрын
That's a perfect lock!
@darlene5216
@darlene5216 Жыл бұрын
I just ordered this lock.
@sonub5401
@sonub5401 4 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised they forgot to put a camera in it. This way it can take a pic of who ever is trying to open it.
@aserta
@aserta 4 жыл бұрын
That would suck up a lot of battery power. We're talking picture, processing, storage, sending. Besides, why complicate things. Whomever designed this clearly knew exactly what they were doing. From the market they were aiming for, to the way things were done. This isn't the lock made by design school students with delusions of grandeur, this is the lock made by locksmiths or locksmith advice.
@sonub5401
@sonub5401 4 жыл бұрын
aserta I never really thought of all that. Good point.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 4 жыл бұрын
Camera hardware would significantly add cost.
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade 4 жыл бұрын
@@sonub5401 It's possible to wire these into the house's power, but it's rather challenging. You'd need to use an inductor like the kind used for wireless charging and you'd need to drill through the door jamb near the deadbolt. Those are both probably reasons why that isn't normally done. But, with a specialty door, it could probably be done, but apparently it isn't a big enough problem for people to fix.
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade 4 жыл бұрын
@@johndododoe1411 Only in terms of power, cameras these days of the appropriate size are not that expensive.
@i_sometimes_leave_comments
@i_sometimes_leave_comments 4 жыл бұрын
From a software security point of view, the hard-coded (?) permanent unchangeable PIN is a huge security issue. Since it's the master password & can't be disabled or changed (if that's what Bill meant), the whole lock would become hugely compromised the moment anyone besides the owner gets that code. Can't really tell how hard or easy it is to attack the lock through digital means, but it's probably not hard to extract the master PIN once you've got the firmware.
@bosnianbill
@bosnianbill 4 жыл бұрын
Hey John! This is a perfect example of something that is easy to SAY, but not easy to execute. Every time I look at a bluetooth or wireless lock several people end up mentioning how "vulnerable" they are and how easy it is to hack. Yet....scan KZbin... outside of a controlled laboratory or conference hall these theories haven't been demonstrated. Now, having said that, keeping the 9-digit PIN secret is the same thing as keeping control of your key to a keyed lock. If you lose either of those, the security is definitely compromised - a no brainer. So, before anyone else jumps on the "Bluetooth/Wireless is easy to hack" bandwagon, I'd really like to see you post a video showing how "easy" it is. After all, this is a padlock...not a bank vault. It cost $110...
@bstrickler
@bstrickler 4 жыл бұрын
That was my concern as well. But my hope is that if you're securing sensitive stuff and not your back gate or a toolbox with it, you're using something better than this, and have trustworthy employees.
@JohnDoe-bd5sz
@JohnDoe-bd5sz 4 жыл бұрын
@@bosnianbill Does the lock have a software update feature. (It seems it has) Usually it is a nightmare for a company to have truly randomized master codes, so they usually get sloppy and make the master codes, based on some algorithm and a seed. If for example they use the Bluetooth MAC as the seed, if someone found out the algorithm, it would be instant access to all access codes, based on a MAC, that the unit itself transmits. In such a case, it would be nice to have firmware updateability to be able to change the code....But still not ideal, as this would mean that the master code would change and the user would need to be able to know the new code.
@i_sometimes_leave_comments
@i_sometimes_leave_comments 4 жыл бұрын
For $110, it certainly is a great lock. However, cheaper locks that aren't susceptible to common attacks like shimming are also really good for most people, since not many thieves can proficiently pick locks like you & LPL, so similar security for a much lower price. Then again, I'm mostly interested in stealth & digital attacks and personally prefer physical bypass & wireless hacking over lock picking (though I do like lock picking). I'd love to test these smart locks if I can get them and the necessary tools. Another point for smart locks: they almost never get security patches. If someone finds software vulnerabilities, even if the manufacturer sends out patches, few people would know about it, and even fewer would bother to apply the patch, if patching can even easily be done. Also, if you can unlock if from anywhere in the world, anyone who manages to get the lock's ID (may be by shoulder surfing) would be able to have something running to brute-force the PIN. Not likely, but still a valid vector. ... but then again, it's probably much easier to break your windows or door.
@bosnianbill
@bosnianbill 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz Again, an excellent THEORY. Easy to SAY and for a few people that is proof enough. But me? Show me. Theories are 100% worthless unless you can demonstrate their viability. Show me a video of you doing it. Then, when you're done I'll laugh at how long it took and how much the equipment cost to crack a $100 padlock. Then I'll use a $50 die grinder and zip it off in less than a minute. There's THEORY, and there's APPLICATION. Sometimes technology makes people lose sight of that.
@richl6725
@richl6725 4 жыл бұрын
A very nice lock and review.
@skygh
@skygh 4 жыл бұрын
Good report!
@alastairreid6486
@alastairreid6486 4 жыл бұрын
Great lock, great review. Even where higher security is required a second or third lock could be used. But where else would you get that level of access control. Data logging. Limited time access, one time access, tamper logging etc for $100 approx. By heck you could even use it as a time clock for payroll. Or to log security patrols or to allow one time deliveries. I hope this review helps sales as there's a lot of criticism of locksports for pointing out vulnerabilities and outsiders can miss the positive purpose to the hobby. Cheers everyone.
@Andy404
@Andy404 4 жыл бұрын
Looks impressive for the price!
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, a company implemented a smart lock intelligently, and not some electronics and cell phone app with huge gaping holes in physical security.
@BryanTorok
@BryanTorok 4 жыл бұрын
This is the sort of feature set I was describing as what I wanted in lock for a door. That was the last time BB reviewed a piece of junk electronic door lock. I have to wonder if they make a similar lock for doors?
@Mikej1592
@Mikej1592 4 жыл бұрын
I would love one to use on my stupid little locker at work. ive been there 20 years, they took away my cube and gave me a locker. Forcing me to squat in conference rooms, cafe, or sit in the noisy factory for 12 hours with no restroom near by, without a 10 minute walk and having to get out of the cleanroom suit. But I digress. I have a long standing haltered for thumb dial combination locks. They are time consuming bits of garbage. I might just start using a shim instead of running the dial all the time. But this lock would make it so I could open it with my phone as I walk to the locker saving me valuable time. Every minute I spend opening that lock eats into my lunch and delays my going home.
@davidstowe5652
@davidstowe5652 4 жыл бұрын
Great job and good luck, stay safe
@MrOMGROFLMAO
@MrOMGROFLMAO 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you review the keybox 3 they sell. With the software capabilities I think this would be great for a vacation cabin that you can allow temporary access to friends/family to get the keys.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 4 жыл бұрын
Or for rental (AirBNB or their competitors).
@omarpagan8020
@omarpagan8020 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a local locksmith in South Florida. There’s a national property management company that I do work for that installs the Igloohome S2 deadbolts on all their properties and according to my contact, they’ve tried other locks and have found that these are the best option as the software can link to your Airbnb account and auto generate and schedule the pins for the people staying on the properties. I’d be interested to see what @Bosnianbill has to say about their deadbolts.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 4 жыл бұрын
@@omarpagan8020 Is that one of the companies that take homes off the market to use them entirely as holiday rentals?
@Platypus_Warrior
@Platypus_Warrior 4 жыл бұрын
How many GOOD locks you need? 2? padlock+bike lock? This thing is amazing! For 110$ I would get this anyday. Great gift too (not a sponsored comment lol)
@bf0189
@bf0189 4 жыл бұрын
I am not a fan of internet of crap stuff normally but this is quite a nice lock!
@bradw0535
@bradw0535 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like a pretty decent unit, as stated, not fort knox by any means, but an affordable option for folks looking for the convenience on the tech side. I see many folks mentioning about hacking it, and while I'm sure someone, somewhere, with the right equipment and know-how can.. would anyone put that sort of effort into getting at something this lock is securing? Doesn't seem like a huge concern, just my opinion
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade 4 жыл бұрын
That's the thing, now isn't it? This type of lock is frequently attached to relatively weak hardware, in many cases, you could just smash off the lock and get the stuff behind it. Where cracking is a particular issue is that it can be done remotely, and the lock relocked without anybody noticing. The attacker could then come and do whatever they want knowing that they can be in and out in a small amount of time. If somebody does seem them, they likely won't think there's anything strange as they would have the ability to unlock it as normal. At this point they could remove, tamper with or add whatever they like. Obviously, this is a rather extreme amount of work and not something that's likely to happen in practice. If you're that important, then you should be getting more secure kit and definitely not connecting it to the internet.
@bradw0535
@bradw0535 4 жыл бұрын
@@SmallSpoonBrigade exactly my thoughts, its all about the application. Typically, I'm not overly concerned with the tech side of attacks. Seems to me, typically, criminals after physical goods are much more at home with a hammer and prybar, than they are with a laptop (or lock picks for that matter) to get at my rakes and shovels in my shed 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Silvers24
@Silvers24 4 жыл бұрын
For once something good! But...no mention of physical attacks like the other one that crumbled when hit with a hammer?
@jamesfair9751
@jamesfair9751 4 жыл бұрын
Nice even the security torx screw holding the battery door on turns clockwise to open which is counterintuitive to the standard. I would instantly want to try and turn it counterclockwise. Just a small detail yet important.
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