17MM Mod for Savage Owners

Here is a short video explaining the new way I did to put 17mm hubs on the savage flux. Works out very well and eliminates virtually 99% of slop. If you have any questions please feel free to leave a comment.
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[@skguy31]

i also modded out my shocks with the lst big bore and the conversion kit . total aluminum suspension...looks mean and saved me tons of repair money

[@CardNox]

I like the pin method you used (put the pin through the axle & carrier and seal it with that wrap thing) better than the snap on system like the standard hex has. But this would same me some cash.

[@rico12345areg]

Dicey you are the man bro... Can't wait to mod my savage and be wobble free bashin my flux....😜

[@olds97lss]

Looks like you should have put a .5mm shim on before he drilled so you would have a tiny bit of slop when removed. Seems like when you put the pin in, there is pressure put on the side of the bearing causing excess side load which will chew up bearings. You can hear the bearing binding when you rotate it after jamming the pin in. I had that issue with some cheap knock off 17mm hubs on my t-maxx back in the day. They didn't line the hole up right or leave enough room for there to be a tiny bit of slop once the pin was in, then it just chewed up bearings all the time. I'm curious where the stock axle pin would be in that associated hub, like where it would line up as for a lay person, it would be easier to drill holes in the hub than the axle, depending on where the existing hole lined up. It looks like it's right in the hex the wheel hub would go on. So, in theory, you could drill new pin holes in the hub itself and then tap one side to use something like the traxxas set screw pins they use in their hubs. I'm not 100% sure the diameter of the pin is large enough for the hpi hubs though, would need to check that. Then you still get the benefit of the load being put on the larger part of the shaft, but don't need a good drill press as much to get the holes drilled in the axles. Which in itself is causing a weak point, especially that close to the bearing. Anyway, just an observation that I might try and do for my flux and X.

[@CardNox]

Thinking about it. There is no "meat" in the extensions part which is prone to developing play ... the XL axles might be required afterall. Or perhaps the 5T axles?

[@LoopHoleize]

You got in the hole from the backside, good work!

[@Divey1130]

@RCWinnipeg Yup, put it in a vise and make sure you drill straight. The axles were a lot easier to drill through than I thought. Here are the part #'s. AE 17mm hub-89330 HPI Super Duty Wide Axle-86249

[@Divey1130]

@rcdriver26 AE 17mm hub-89330 HPI Super Duty Wide Axle-86249 I will see what they think. But ya the bearings go quick because of where the load is. it's to far out on the axle.

[@sebastianaguirre7393]

So whats the part # for the adapter? just got the HPI one but it seems i have to either drill in the axle or dremmel the pins in order for them to fit so its a pain in the a.... but if you could please let me know the part # for yours that be greatly appreciated!

[@wolowitzrc1059]

Sorry I habs not quite understand, I have the axes XL what they have shown first, what I have to change the Associated RC8T Wheel Hex (AS89330) to use? Please respond...Thx

[@xxgg]

@xxgg btw,,, i am using wide axles too with purple spacers

[@Divey1130]

They have to be the extended ones to match the savage.

[@skguy31]

thanx for the mod tip..best thing ever

[@xxgg]

Stock Savage Flux HP 17mm. Does strip only happens when nut get loose or come out? I assume it is near impossible to be stripped when wheel it still tightly locked in, right?

[@Divey1130]

@CODYtheHITMAN That's a hard one as I just got a new Droid X not to long ago. I would say which ever one would be used the most. With the economy and the way prices went up for raw materials, things are only getting more expensive.

[@garyfaulk8053]

What is the part # for your hex and where can I get them

[@Divey1130]

@rhysdejager1 Nice, glad it worked for you. I have since sold all my savage stuff as well. Got a 5SC then sold that to upgrade my computer. I still have my other rc's and plan to get another savage for bashing.

[@Divey1130]

@xxgg I don't remember. It was done at my father in laws and he has a ton of tools. I do remember it was x/64. I will try to find out.

[@James1210s]

please can you tell me where you got the blue 17mm extentions from. thanks

[@aaronpeters1770]

Hi...good video I'm assuming. I'm dyslexic and have a very hard time comprehending words spoken. I actually am having help writing you this. Could you message me back and give me part numbers of what you used so I can study and hopefully learn how to convert my e savage sport to 17mm? I Thnak you for your time and wisdom sir.

[@Divey1130]

Yes, they should work.

[@CentralVAracer]

Is this mod still holding up well? I just bought a savage flux hp and would like to do a 17mm hex upgrade and this looks pretty good compared to the other options I've read about.

[@arnaudgossiaux6337]

More details on the parts used

[@nitrorcx1998]

nice vid

[@eagledronestan952]

Just need info on the 17mm hub will work on all savage ??? I have a savage x 4.6

[@fr8cture]

Wait what was that about drilling something?

[@ridermike221]

nice mod

[@maxcomx]

Would you give more detail, which part do we need exactly, which model number of drive pin is it, and where do you get that blue part. Would be a must to put those info in the video description. It seems a really nice fit and sturdy. thx

[@Divey1130]

ASC89330 Associated RC8T Wheel Hex

[@Divey1130]

@skyhighkite I see what you mean now. What I did was put a shim between the hub carrier and axle that way there was the slightest play possible. And if needed I could always leave the shim in if the hole was to big.

[@Divey1130]

@gplays69 I don't have my savage anymore but I do think with the stock axles and the championship edition hexes might work. They are a little shorter but have the same ring locking on them.

[@Divey1130]

@rcdriver26 Nope, they slide all the way on till they hit the hub carrier. They have a little raised spot spot that keeps a small space between the hex and the hub carrier.

[@Divey1130]

I think there is an adapter piece that can be bought to allow 14mm hexes. If not I am not sure because I don't have a slash anymore to mess with.

[@Divey1130]

If you mean the 17mm ones then yes. Most are standard 17mm so you should be ok unless you run something like Losi wheels which are different.

[@Divey1130]

@xxBLKChEvY07xx 17mm nuts. I think I used some from AKA, Hot Bodies, and HPI. Also the Associated fit as well.

[@Divey1130]

@skyhighkite Are you talking about the hole for the bearing. If so then nice and snugg.

[@REDFOXMOTOVLOG]

nice thank for the tips . now my esavage for wider now + off set wheel combine =)

[@RcNerd]

Question :- how can I covert my slash 2wd from 12mm hex to 14mm please help.

[@Divey1130]

Because of the length. The axle and 17mm hub are about the same length.

[@ABPalacios]

what nut fits these?

[@Divey1130]

Are you meaning this part ASC89330  Associated RC8T Wheel Hex

[@trez0r1]

What about ASC89329 Associated RC8T Wheel Hex, which are narrower? Wouldn't that be a better option? Or for some reason they will not fit the flux axles? Thank you!

[@foxy4242]

You can also use the Jammin truggy CVDs as an all in one solution, CVD and 17mm truggy hex all in one. The CVDs can take 6S no problem. Use OFN40657 x2 and OFN30058.

[@fluxful]

nice.I had the same, but a piece of lost ;-/

[@rico12345areg]

@james I just ordered the Parts from a uk store complete with hex nuts for 42€.

[@gplays69]

good video thanks ,so do you have to use the xl axles can it work with stock flux axles?

[@robsmith420]

Awesome tip man. You need to put a little hair around that hole to find it easier. LOL

[@sheilstar12]

where could u get them from and can i use them on the savage 5.9 xl

[@alfdirtbike]

LMFAO at you.Not experienced in getting it into hole lol.

[@mortenopsahl1477]

Hallo where did you bay that set cant find it online?

[@sheilstar12]

does the associated adapter fit the savage xl wheels??

[@xxgg]

Do you have any tips to avoid wheel hex stripping out?

[@trez0r1]

Thanks for the reply but can you elaborate why so?

[@xxgg]

Which wheel/tire do you use with your Flux HP?

[@IRISH0627]

When thought out!

[@sheilstar12]

what is the name of the adapters.??

[@sheilstar12]

thanks for your help

[@Divey1130]

@xxgg Are you stripping them out with my mod or the stock hexes on the truck. Also is it 14mm or 17mm. With mine you will not strip anything out unless your doing some major 100 foot jumps. Stock hexes from the savage flux are junk and come loose all the time and that's when they strip.

[@Divey1130]

@xxgg Yup, a very common issue on the flux. People complain about it all the time and myself included. That's why I wanted something better and looked in all my parts to see what I could come up with. This mod has been working great with no issues at all. If you look at my easter bash video you will see the jumping I do with it. No small jumps at all and no stripped wheels.

[@Divey1130]

@skyhighkite I'm sorry, I was thinking of a different video. Anyways make the whole to the size of the pin. Of hand I can't remember but it might be 5/16 drill bit but double check. Then the slop from the stock setup is gone. This mod was the best mod I have done for the savage.

[@Divey1130]

@skyhighkite It depends, your limited with wheels when you go with 23mm hexes. Most standard sizes are 17mm so it's personal preference on what you want. I don't have my flux anymore but when I did I never broke the ones I made. And I bashed the snot out of it.

[@Divey1130]

@xxgg Ya, that is what I use for this mod. If your going to stick with the stock nuts/hexes, use a socket wrench (like for automotive) and some thread locker and crank that nut down. Other than that there really isn't much to do. Sign up to Savage Central forums and they have a savage flux section. A ton of good info.

[@Divey1130]

@skguy31 No problem bro. They actually work and work good. Also if you wanted a shorter wheelbase you could use the championship edition hexes which are narrower. They have the same locking ring like these ones.

[@Divey1130]

I made them. Use the savage extended axles and associated rc8t hubs. Drill the hole and your done. Very simple but very efficient.

[@Divey1130]

@Bmr4life Np bro. It has been working out perfectly. It's very easy to do if you have a drill press. If by hand, it's real hard.

[@Divey1130]

@xxgg I use many different kinds. JConcepts 1/2" offset rulux with HPI Savage 25 tires. Proline Badlands on Rulux wheels. Or truggy wheels when on my track.

[@priejonas83]

guys please im live in brazil so i dont understand many things he says ..so please someone can send me please the parts that i need buy?

[@sebastianaguirre7393]

I'm getting those, and is this the part # for the extended axles? #86249 SUPER HEAVY DUTY WIDE AXLE 8x11x59mm (2pcs)? and thanks again

[@mavrick0pm]

Thanks for the great idea. Only thing I will/would do differently is change where the pin hole is to give a hair or two of play.

[@Divey1130]

Thanks guys. I am always trying to mod my trucks.

[@zStone941]

Is this still working well for you ? I got a Savage flux 5t Conversion donevand I'd like to add some width to her.

[@TheSavageBerzerker]

Hey do the HPI Nuts work on the associated Adapters or do you have to use the nylock nuts?

[@trez0r1]

I finally watched the video on a computer that has sound. I see what you mean, thanks!

[@xxgg]

One important question: What size drill bit should be used to drill the hole ?

[@stefandwoodham]

Think you need to put some hair around it. That alsways helps (just sayin)

[@saulgoodman9550]

great vid matey