1859 Vinegar Pie (Hint: It's NOT From The Great Depression) - Old Cookbook Show

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@BDylanHollis
@BDylanHollis Жыл бұрын
It's unfortunate how reality tussles with sensationalism. I've regrettably danced with the issue often. Seems many simply like the idea that: "the depression was so bad they had to use VINEGAR in their pies!" - Never does the true (and oft more interesting) history much justice. Thank you for the informative video.
@AD-kv9kj
@AD-kv9kj Жыл бұрын
Still gross though. So many old recipes seemed so desperate to just use up random ingredients in everything. "Eeer, we gotta shedload of vinegar still...let's just convince everyone to use it up in pies!"
@shirleyannconfer9651
@shirleyannconfer9651 Жыл бұрын
I’m impressed that one of the content creators that I watch regularly is also a fan of this KZbin channel!
@jmbkpo
@jmbkpo Жыл бұрын
​​@@AD-kv9kj it's called cooking, grow up
@asianshell
@asianshell Жыл бұрын
@@shirleyannconfer9651 yes, same!
@artistpw
@artistpw Жыл бұрын
The people may have not had access to much. No modern grocery stores. In WWII, they also had to deal with rationing so didn't have access to some foods.
@josephdeveau3584
@josephdeveau3584 Жыл бұрын
This show has become a standard part of my Sunday morning routine: walk and coffee, grab a montreal style bagel, watch the Old Cookbook Show while eating my bagel, and then hit the gym.
@derekh989
@derekh989 Жыл бұрын
Same, I make coffee and then check to see if Glen's video is up yet.
@mattjohnson6227
@mattjohnson6227 Жыл бұрын
Same. Coffee and the old cookbook show are my Sunday mornings.
@SeventhSwell
@SeventhSwell Жыл бұрын
Kinda the same except I honestly don't have a Sunday routine outside of watching this channel. This channel is my Sunday routine.
@virginiaf.5764
@virginiaf.5764 Жыл бұрын
Make a Sunday (more involved) breakfast, perk the coffee, sit down and watch the Old Cookbook Show. No gym, but I can go out on my porch, look at the 14,000 ft. mountain I live near, and fondly remember when I could hike it.
@NyxaGrayheart
@NyxaGrayheart Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile I wake up in the middle of the afternoon (sundays are my sleep in day) roll out of bed and have my coffee while watching.
@amyeagleton697
@amyeagleton697 Жыл бұрын
My mom and grandma would take those leftover pie crust pieces, put cinnamon sugar on them, and bake them. So tasty, and it kept the kids from begging for the actual pie, lol
@violetwithey4618
@violetwithey4618 Жыл бұрын
Mine too. They spread it lightly with butter, margarine,Grandma called it Oleo. Then the cinnamon and sugar.
@annethomson4920
@annethomson4920 Жыл бұрын
​​@@violetwithey4618 we had ours with Jam , custard , cream or ice cream or maybe all 4
@crackersmom2679
@crackersmom2679 Жыл бұрын
Yep! I did that when my kids were at home, now I do that for my grandchildren. I loved it and so do they!
@kathrynmaharaj9265
@kathrynmaharaj9265 Жыл бұрын
Here in Quebec they are called "pet des soeurs" which means "Nuns Farts"
@terramarini6880
@terramarini6880 Жыл бұрын
My mom did that too, butter, cinnamon sugar, rolled up like a little crescent roll. I did the same for my kids/husband.
@nicolelasher
@nicolelasher Жыл бұрын
As I understand from some old folks in my family, vinegar pie liquid is basically a base to hold fruit scraps and stale bread, or whatever neutral tasting stuff you have around the kitchen that needs getting rid of before it spoils. I've even heard people putting in leftover potatoes, carrots, and anything that has some chew. Mash or chop it up, and nobody really knows what was in the pie. The vinegar kind of binds all the smells and flavors together. One would definitely also use some sort of allspice or cinnamon mixture as well.
@Klwjjj
@Klwjjj 6 ай бұрын
I remember my grandma making something similar and she would use a potato. As you say - no one knows the difference. 😊
@argie498189
@argie498189 Жыл бұрын
My mom made vinegar pie in autumn. She rolled out several thin layers of crust. She put in some filling into the bottom crust, then a layer of crust, more filling, more crust, not sure how many layers, but then the top crust, and she took an ice pick and poked holes all over the top, clear through to the bottom. She brushed the top with water and sprinkled sugar lightly all over the top. The layers of crust puffed up, and the pie came out higher than the plate it was in. So fragrant, so delicious.
@zaynamoore
@zaynamoore Жыл бұрын
Vinegar Pie is referenced in The Little House on the Prairie series which were based on family life circa 1870...so quite some time before the Depression era.
@essaboselin5252
@essaboselin5252 Жыл бұрын
That's the first time I heard of it as well. Never once considered it to be a Depression Era recipe.
@juliao8428
@juliao8428 Жыл бұрын
That was where I first heard of it as well.
@shelleyhender8537
@shelleyhender8537 Жыл бұрын
Bless you Sheri - I loved “Little House on the Prairie”…and still do years later! I feel like a “dying breed”, as I rarely hear of anyone mention this show and “Anne of Green Gables”! I bought the series this past year and started watching an episode from time to time. Hope you are having an awesome day!☺
@krazycatz
@krazycatz Жыл бұрын
YES!!! That’s where I first heard about it too!!!
@heleneminger
@heleneminger Жыл бұрын
I have been reading this series to my children and they are loving it
@ginya15
@ginya15 Жыл бұрын
In late 50s, my Mom would threaten us “ eat your dinner or I’ll make a vinegar pie for your dinner” until my sister Dotty made one and it really wasn’t that bad.
@sadiedesimone7460
@sadiedesimone7460 Жыл бұрын
I am 83. My mom made vinegar pie when I was a child. I loved it! One day I came into the kitchen and exclaimed, “Oh boy! I smell vinegar pie!” My mom laughed because my face was just above her pot of boiling vinegar-water and sugar looking for that delicious pie.
@hoovesandpaws
@hoovesandpaws Жыл бұрын
Hi Glenn...My Mamaw and Mom used to make this pie and also Water Pie alot. I learned to make my own vinegars from them. So...I use my homemade vinegars which are various flavors ... apple, banana, blackberry, etc. Using one of these flavored vinegars really enhances this pie. And a dab of my homemade complimentary extract really makes a better pie!
@michaelreid8857
@michaelreid8857 Жыл бұрын
Would you please share with me, how to make Raspberry Vinegar? Thanks
@elizabethbednar6338
@elizabethbednar6338 Жыл бұрын
Banana vinegar sounds so odd to me
@ange4739
@ange4739 Жыл бұрын
Really ? Would you share your recipes & how to ?
@hoovesandpaws
@hoovesandpaws Жыл бұрын
@@busimagen Yes and I still do. Right along with pickles and syrup and relish.
@smallfootprint2961
@smallfootprint2961 Жыл бұрын
@@busimagen ... My mom made watermelon rind pickles. They were good. Like a bread and butter pickle.
@n1gak
@n1gak Жыл бұрын
first thing that popped into my mind: In the mid-80s, my sister found a recipe in a magazine for a vinegar pie, attributed to settlers on the Oregon Trail (magazine was called "Old West" or something like that). We made it for a family meal, my younger brother and I loved it, my father hated it. "Vinegar pie" became a term in our family for "something that seemed like a good idea, but did not meet expectactions" (Going on to watch the rest of the video now)
@Abpgsetiloincawdyubkolmbrs
@Abpgsetiloincawdyubkolmbrs Жыл бұрын
As this pie hails from Pennsylvania, it’s cousins in Waterloo county would have likely been made with apple molasses. Apple cider boiled down till thick, as you would maple syrup.
@Iceland874
@Iceland874 Жыл бұрын
My grandma made it. My brothers thought it sounded horrible but I liked everything Grandma made. The only time I’ve ever baked in my 66 years other than cookies when my 3 sons were little, was rhubarb pie in Home Economics in 8th grade. It was the grossest thing I could have ever been forced to make. Enjoyed the video.
@mitchellgehman4605
@mitchellgehman4605 Жыл бұрын
As a resident of Lancaster, I feel compelled to mention that Lancaster is pronounced "Lanc-ister", like there is an "i" instead of an "a". Cool recipe, love to see some representation of my corner of the world
@hatjodelka
@hatjodelka Жыл бұрын
My first impression from the UK, when seeing the title was "Vinegar pie? What on earth is that?" I have never heard of it before. The main thrifty recipes come from the second world war when rationing was strict. Sugar and molasses (black treacle here) were very rare then as well as butter. Perhaps Lord Woolton pie is the equivalent.
@candygirl7586
@candygirl7586 Жыл бұрын
I have been making Vinegar Pie for my children, who are now adults, and having it myself since I was a very young child in the southern US. The ingredients my family used were only eggs, butter, sugar/molasses, 1T vinegar, and vanilla... bottom crust only. A Chess Pie included flour...
@sharonbargercarnes4414
@sharonbargercarnes4414 Жыл бұрын
Take out the vinegar, leave the molasses, and it’s closer to Shoofly Pie, which is another Pennsylvania Dutch recipe.
@ryanmitchell4426
@ryanmitchell4426 Жыл бұрын
I had a similar thought, especially since it came from a Lancaster paper.
@mariegarside8830
@mariegarside8830 Жыл бұрын
Shoofly pie reminds me of my grandmother.
@kathleensaenz4717
@kathleensaenz4717 Жыл бұрын
Love shoofly pie ❤❤❤❤❤
@sshirleyks
@sshirleyks 11 ай бұрын
I love Julie’s face when she heard vinegar pie. 🤣
@Amelia.A.T.
@Amelia.A.T. Жыл бұрын
My sister and I were watching, and we both remembered our family vinegar pie. We use my great-grandmother's recipe, which is likely a late nineteenth century recipe (my mother's mother's mother used to make it for my grandmother when she was a girl, and grandma was born in 1901). It had an egg and butter in it, but the egg is not separated. My sister said that our mom said it was a Penn Dutch recipe, which makes sense because our great-grandmother and grandmother were born in rural PA. On a similar note, I'm going to be making a raisin pie that my grandmother used to make for me (back in the sixties) which I still have the recipe for in my great-grandmother's handwriting. 🙂 I'm looking forward to that! Love your show, Glenn, and especially when you dig into the history of the recipes on your Sunday videos!
@margaretbedwell3211
@margaretbedwell3211 Жыл бұрын
Amelia, My grandmother also made raisin pie (often) when I was growing up. I did not like because she made it with raisins that had seeds in it. And we did have seedless raisins back in those days. Why she made it with those raisin I will never know. LOL.
@jcboom6894
@jcboom6894 Жыл бұрын
Raining pie was my Dad's favorite pie
@joanng8601
@joanng8601 Жыл бұрын
The 70 teacups made me laugh, that anyone would think they are same size- love your channel, thank you
@EastSider48215
@EastSider48215 Жыл бұрын
Vinegar Pie is mentioned in two of Laura Ingalls Wilder’s Little House books: Farmer Boy and Little Town on the Prairie. So they were common in the American East and Midwest in the 1870’s.
@andielangemeyer
@andielangemeyer Жыл бұрын
I love how thorough you are Glen! You must love research. I probably wouldn't be watching cooking videos without your awesome history lessons and commentary 😊
@petervanderwaart1138
@petervanderwaart1138 Жыл бұрын
If you don't want to spray the molasses measuring cup, you could put a little of the hot liquid from the pan, and swirl it around.
@RSidneyB
@RSidneyB Жыл бұрын
Yup, thought the same thing. I often do that; e.g., getting the last bit of tomato paste out of a can .
@terebrown2892
@terebrown2892 Жыл бұрын
Don't know if you (rsidneyb) meant put the hot liquid in before measuring molasses to "preheat" it to make it slide out or after to rinse it out and get the last of it but I do both. I often fill the glass with hot water before anything hard to get out, (honey, peanut butter, shortening, etc) but using hot liquid from the recipe would make even more sense, thanks for that idea. And, of course, being Grammy Sarrett's favorite granddaughter, we don't waste anything, so we always rinse the jars and cans out, preferably with part of the recipe. I even throw browned ground beef or mushrooms in the spaghetti sauce jar and shake it around to clean it out without watering down the sauce.
@jrkorman
@jrkorman Жыл бұрын
I was sitting there talking to my screen "Glen, you've got a pan of hot water!!!"
@t_y8274
@t_y8274 Жыл бұрын
Or if measuring by weight, you can use the negative on the scale (by measuring the molasses jar)
@jamesmcinnis208
@jamesmcinnis208 Жыл бұрын
"No one really knows what a teacup is."
@quintessenceSL
@quintessenceSL Жыл бұрын
Something I've witnessed with events I have first-hand knowledge of is the re-writing of history (intentional or not) and dissemination through the web from people whose research/opinions are maybe one degree removed from wikipedia. It has impressed upon me the need to track down original sources (and even that is going to be a bit fraught) and nullius in verba.
@itzel1735
@itzel1735 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Reminds me of the seven sweets and seven sours from the Pennsylvania Dutch tradition. I would have cooled the filling before putting it in the crust, but your experiment seems to have worked.
@Jaeler9
@Jaeler9 Жыл бұрын
Can I suggest doing a series of “mock” pies? Cause I stumbled across a mock apple pie (quite a few family members are allergic to apple and I wanted to share the deliciousness that is apple pie without making them sick) that is made from zucchini and I have no clue when it is from. It was in a home canning chat group when I found it. But it is exceeding delicious and if I don’t study the “fruit” inside I can’t tell the difference in taste.
@terebrown2892
@terebrown2892 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of the mock apple pie made using Ritz crackers? You won't believe it till you've tried it! And, yes Glen, a series of mock pies, or anything else, would be greatly appreciated. ps, our local American Legion Auxillary cookbook had a recipe for "mock pineapple" that started with zucchini
@joantrotter3005
@joantrotter3005 Жыл бұрын
I think originally zucchini pie is an old Italian tradition?
@michaelreid8857
@michaelreid8857 Жыл бұрын
I would recommend using a good apple pie recipe and substitute the apples for pears. This keeps it fruit and pears have similar flavour to apples!
@LilyoftheValeyrising
@LilyoftheValeyrising Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard of a mock apple pie made from whole ritz crackers. I heard about it in early ‘90’s.
@crackersmom2679
@crackersmom2679 Жыл бұрын
I've had them made out of Ritz crackers, but not zucchini. Sounds good.
@lenalyles2712
@lenalyles2712 Жыл бұрын
This was one of my Grandfather's favorite pies. Sweets we're a treat when we was little and this pie was easy and enjoyed at our table.
@derekh989
@derekh989 Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in an episode explaining how you research old recipes across different newspapers and time periods. Are there searchable databases online? How do you look through your old cookbooks for a specific recipe if you're not sure it will be in any of them?
@SeventhSwell
@SeventhSwell Жыл бұрын
Oh, that would be neat. I do enjoy a good behind the scenes video, like the tour of the kitchen set one. Maybe I've missed it, this channel has been around a long time before I found it during Covid, but if there isn't a video just showcasing the cookbook collection I'd love to see that too.
@virginiaf.5764
@virginiaf.5764 Жыл бұрын
There are searchable newspaper databases online. I think some require paid. subscriptions.
@derekh989
@derekh989 Жыл бұрын
@Virginia F. Yes. But that doesn't help me understand the process of using them to track down recipes from different regions through different centuries and decades.
@johnhpalmer6098
@johnhpalmer6098 Жыл бұрын
I bet Glen spends lots of time looking in the stacks at the public library looking at actual books and of course, many stacks will contain many old newspapers, bound and can find the recipes that way, as well as online and making copies of certain parts of pages as needed.
@Vickiib
@Vickiib Жыл бұрын
I've made a vinegar pie for decades! I grew up eating it and I have a copy of my great grandmother's recipe for it. She died in 1897!
@janborkowski6659
@janborkowski6659 6 ай бұрын
Please tell us your grandmother’s recipe. How did it differ from this one?
@321southtube
@321southtube Жыл бұрын
My first impression?...it was exactly what you're impression was after the first bite. The lemon does sound like an interesting fix. When you announced on the "validity" of information on the internet, I could hear the collective sound of jaws dropping from everyone under 30. I might just try this. Thanks so much. I truly appreciate the work behind the scenes as much as the final product. Always intriguing, interesting, and entertaining. Thanks so much
@KnitterWho
@KnitterWho Жыл бұрын
my first thought was logging. I remember visiting Hartwick Pines State Park in Michigan and there was a recipe for Vinegar Pie in one of the displays.
@TheIronDuke9
@TheIronDuke9 Жыл бұрын
Something about your reaction of "weird, oh so weird" at the first taste really had me laughing, especially as I have no idea how this would taste. It's about what I imagine I would say were I to try it
@eivujeienin
@eivujeienin Жыл бұрын
The first place I heard about vinegar pie was in _Come an' Get It_ by Ramon Adams. It's a history of the chuck wagon and cattle roundup trail cooks. Sadly the book doesn't give very clear recipes, but it calls for sugar in this pie.
@intuitivemedium3814
@intuitivemedium3814 Жыл бұрын
Im so overjoyed I found Glenn and Friends again! I left FB behind over a year ago and missed this show! Hey Jules!!👋
@Markephillips77
@Markephillips77 Жыл бұрын
As a resident of St. Cloud, MN I get giddy every time our city is mentioned on your channel! Thanks for doing all of this footwork to mix two of my passions: cooking and history! Super cool stuff!
@KyzylReap
@KyzylReap Жыл бұрын
Hello from down river in Winona!
@cindywalker1252
@cindywalker1252 Жыл бұрын
I live in St Cloud too!!
@glendaweiss5500
@glendaweiss5500 Жыл бұрын
You sent my Mom and I on a hunt for her Grandmother’s recipe. Very similar except she used white sugar and added a teaspoon of cinnamon.
@Klwjjj
@Klwjjj 6 ай бұрын
My grandma’s recipe includes 3/4 tablespoon of cinnamon and 1/4 nutmeg. Otherwise exactly the same.
@JoeAuerbach
@JoeAuerbach Жыл бұрын
The first thing that pops into my head when you say vinegar pie is a sweet tart sort of sugar based evaporation pie common enough here in Ohio. Checking the recipe .... yeah, that's it. It's a good one.
@FranceG.Ouellette
@FranceG.Ouellette Жыл бұрын
This pie is a tradition in my family (I am from Quebec) and we make it using white vinegar, brown sugar, water, a bit of flour and butter. Maybe it is an acquired taste, but we all love it.
@julejustjule
@julejustjule Жыл бұрын
Julie's face when Glen said vinegar pie 😂 exactly mirrored my face.
@jjudy5869
@jjudy5869 Жыл бұрын
Mine, too!
@Allurade
@Allurade Жыл бұрын
Right? You could just hear the enthusiasm melt away when she found out what kind of pie it was
@superstar5123
@superstar5123 Жыл бұрын
assumption is the instinct of the willfully ignorant
@helenedesmarais8697
@helenedesmarais8697 Жыл бұрын
I could guess that it started early in Britan with the sugar trade , a thickener and a bit of acid to balance. It propagated to the colonized Americas and got regionnalized. Here, in Québec ( previously Nouvelle-France way back), it got personnalized into " Tarte à la Farlouche" with the same type base with optionnal addition of raisins ( or not ).
@YeshuaKingMessiah
@YeshuaKingMessiah Жыл бұрын
Yes! I’ve heard of it with raisins too! I knew it was missing SUMthing
@julieschneider5973
@julieschneider5973 Жыл бұрын
The rest of this newspaper page is certainly making for interesting reading! I’d love to see the whole page so I could get the entirety of the stories!
@matejcigale8840
@matejcigale8840 Жыл бұрын
I just love the face Juesl makes when Glen declares it's vinegar pie.
@rebeccaturner5503
@rebeccaturner5503 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was using vinegar instead of lemon juice because it was an acid and you would have it ready to hand. If you had different vinegars I am thinking you would get some real interesting differences in flavor. .
@murlthomas2243
@murlthomas2243 Жыл бұрын
It looks good, but I like molasses a lot. Grandma made molasses bread that I wish I had the recipe for, and it started my fascination for using molasses in other things. I will have to try this. Thank you Glen!
@throttle4593
@throttle4593 Жыл бұрын
My grandmother, who was born in 1903 used to make that pie, and taught my mom. I remember it was one of my favorites when I was a little girl.
@justmefolks1863
@justmefolks1863 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I tried one of those older recipes about 25 years ago. It was a mock apple pie made mostly with saltines. It was hilarious because my kids at the time 2 teens and 2 preteens, all tasted it with eyes closed and thought it really was apple pie. I only made it once because the pan was a nightmare to clean....LOL. I really love that you showed all the different time periods also.
@LadyElaineLovegood
@LadyElaineLovegood Жыл бұрын
I grew up in York which is just down the road from Lancaster. Sweet & sour is a popular flavor combination around there so maybe that's the reason for this pie, but when the ingredients also give cider as an option it could be just be a desert option for when fresh fruit isn't available.
@ThankfulQue
@ThankfulQue Жыл бұрын
I was going to write to you and see if you would make one of these! My mom made them and they are delicious! We were told they were “mock apple.” It was like a cobbler when she made them. The vinegar was really mellow. Thanks!
@darrellbedford4857
@darrellbedford4857 Жыл бұрын
This is the only cooking show I subscribe too. I may watch other show on the occasion if the show something interesting but Glenn And Friends is my go to show that I look forward to every episode. I am with DerekOnPurpose who asked about seeing a show on how you do the research on the recipes. Can we have one Glenn?
@annehall2591
@annehall2591 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that you guys had such different reactions. Don't know if I would make this pie, but it was definitely interesting to watch!
@darnstewart
@darnstewart Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you do a Treacle Tart on the Old Cookbook Show someday.
@michaelreid8857
@michaelreid8857 Жыл бұрын
I was about to post, that this had some resemblance to that!
@adrienebailey9010
@adrienebailey9010 2 ай бұрын
I have ate vingar pie a million times. My grandmother made it once a week when I was growing up.
@MrBeav1018
@MrBeav1018 Жыл бұрын
i made a vinegar pie a long time ago. and it was delicious.
@aliceewing9417
@aliceewing9417 Жыл бұрын
First thing that comes to mind is a book I read last week that was based in the 1800s where a man told his wife that he would leave her if she ever made him vinegar pie haha. After finishing this video, I was surprised by the recipe. In the novel I referenced above, the characters used the term vinegar pie to refer to a fruit pie that used vinegar instead of lemon juice. I wonder where the author got that from.
@kbjerke
@kbjerke Жыл бұрын
Very interesting bit of culinary history, Glen! Thanks!
@oldgloryhillfarmturtlewoma9132
@oldgloryhillfarmturtlewoma9132 Жыл бұрын
My Grandmother taught me how to make vinegar dumplings. Yum! One of my favorite desserts.
@Lalscell90
@Lalscell90 Жыл бұрын
No idea what vinegar pie is. I'm glad now I know thanks to you!
@Reuben-
@Reuben- Жыл бұрын
Glen, maybe it’s in your back catalog, but after all the mock apple pies you’ve made what would your recipe for one be? Not a riff on an existing one, but something taken from your lessons learned? I always love these old cookbook episodes, and all your content too. Great stuff! Thank you!
@sherrienale9974
@sherrienale9974 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy you're show...Unfortunately, that pie I will pass on...Have a great week friend..
@bkd69ster
@bkd69ster Жыл бұрын
I love learning when things just aren't so. But as others have noted, what you got there is a shoo fly pie. With vinegar. It'd be interesting to see where the shoo fly and the Lancaster vinegar pie parted ways or merged on the recipe tree.
@Waldenpunk
@Waldenpunk Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite pies!
@MrBradmyre
@MrBradmyre Жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching for years and never comment. I feel this is your best episode ever. A perfect video that sums up exactly what I enjoy about your channel.
@alysoffoxdale
@alysoffoxdale Жыл бұрын
I'm amused that the molasses flavor is pulling you away from the concept of apple pie, because our family apple pie recipe includes a big dollop of molasses as the "secret ingredient"!
@lindafletcher1628
@lindafletcher1628 Жыл бұрын
When you asked about vinegar pie and what was your first thought -- mine was raisin pie which is a pie I loved and havent had since childhood. Love your videos...a fan from down the road in Whitby
@stevewhitcher6719
@stevewhitcher6719 Жыл бұрын
When Julie started eating it she had a sort of pained look, and then she kept going back to eat more so she must have liked it!
@virginiaf.5764
@virginiaf.5764 Жыл бұрын
I'll bet homemade cider vinegar was used in that time period. Commercial vinegar was around then, but maybe not everywhere.
@theresafinn4257
@theresafinn4257 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting history.
@Dios67
@Dios67 6 ай бұрын
"the Letter of a Dying Wife" in the newspaper in the end is some metrical structure you wouldn't find so much these days.
@joeyhardin1288
@joeyhardin1288 Жыл бұрын
My great uncle's favorite pie (Cobbler). I was the only one to make it for him. Thank you. God Bless and stay Safe.
@kathya739
@kathya739 Жыл бұрын
A commenter below, Lori Shirrin was hoping to fine this cobbler recipe....
@divagonzo
@divagonzo Жыл бұрын
Childhood for me was infrequently punctuated by vinegar pie, although my mother made it as vinegar roll, in a rectangular metal pan, not a circular pie shape. Both sweet and tangy, I enjoyed it, and I've missed it for the last 60 years.
@Locumparadisi
@Locumparadisi Жыл бұрын
It's so cool to see my city pop up more and more in media. It's definitely brought all different kinds of newcomers to the area.
@VHangout
@VHangout Жыл бұрын
I miss my Mom...first thing I thought was because she made vinegar pie for me. It was my favorite. The last one I had was about 5 years before she died. Fond memories.
@dazedconfused5019
@dazedconfused5019 Жыл бұрын
I read my great-grandmother love to make vinegar pies, I thought why and how could that be good. I will make this in the near future to taste for myself.
@eabt
@eabt Жыл бұрын
I associate vinegar pie with rural late winter cooking. Like sugar pie and butter tarts, it's a way of making a high-calorie food (like a fruit pie) when all the summer fruit has been used up. I didn't even know that it was associated with the Great Depression!
@Marielm1
@Marielm1 Жыл бұрын
No thank you! That was the first thing! Still watched. You are a delight.
@juancamilopen
@juancamilopen Жыл бұрын
And this is why I love this channel!!!
@Rigel_Chiokis
@Rigel_Chiokis Жыл бұрын
I do like the history lessons that come with your Old Cookbook show.
@ApeSkit01
@ApeSkit01 Жыл бұрын
Julie had the same reaction when Glen said Vinegar Pie as I did when reading it the video title. I'm glad it turned out better than it sounds.
@shirleyannconfer9651
@shirleyannconfer9651 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos. I’m watching from close to the geographical center of Pennsylvania, and I probably have relatives in the Lancaster area.
@flashqueena979
@flashqueena979 Жыл бұрын
I think of preparing for lean times and that did get me to the time of the Great Depression. Thank you for the story that goes along with this recipe!
@gisman_2000
@gisman_2000 Жыл бұрын
I made Vinegar pie about 10 years ago just to see what it was like. It was good.
@wmschooley1234
@wmschooley1234 Жыл бұрын
For what it’s worth, several years ago on the Civil War Talk forum Receipts of the Blue & Gray Sweet Baked Goods there was a discussion thread on Vinegar Pie. Respectfully, W.S.
@figmo397
@figmo397 Жыл бұрын
This pie reminds me of Shoo-Fly Pie, another Pennsylvania Dutch staple. Given that the cookbook is from Lancaster, PA, it makes sense, as that's "Amish Country."
@heidiedelman6840
@heidiedelman6840 Жыл бұрын
I have never heard of vinegar pie before. Thanks for the great content here
@maryrowe1504
@maryrowe1504 Жыл бұрын
My grandpa told me his father’s favorite desserts were vinegar and chocolate pie. He was born in 1920 so this would have been during the depression. For years I thought he was BSing me and then I found the recipe
@elmerkilred159
@elmerkilred159 Жыл бұрын
I suppose one should probably ask the questions; What were the qualities, and varieties of the the ingredients that were used in this 1859 recipe? Was the molasses sulfured, unsulfured, dark, light, blackstrap, sorghum, sugar beet, cane, clover, maple syrup... ? Was the flour A/P, 00, whole wheat. barley or rye mixed... ? Vinegar- wine, apple cider, distilled, malt, cane...? Each combination of just these three ingredients could make a complete different flavor for each pie made. This episode just popped up in my feed today. I haven't seen an episode since the Cream Soda, and Cola experiments. I thought I was subscribed, but for some reason I was not. I am now. I have a lot of videos to watch now!
@kjmwired
@kjmwired 11 ай бұрын
So, never heard of it till shows like yours & my Italian immigrant grandpa had a bakery in NJ. 😁 However, I find it fascinating 😀🏖 Kj in Tampa Bay ❤️
@sandra.phillips
@sandra.phillips Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. When I heard that it tastes close to an apple pie, that gave me some cool ideas. I have a keto/low carb lifestyle. I love apple pie, so I'm going to try this with a low carb flour mix, low carb sweetener and add some cinnamon. I think that you may have helped me figure out something for my occasional sweet tooth. I also love the simplicity of the basic recipe. I think doing a low carb version of that will be a great low cost basic pie.
@annehacker8840
@annehacker8840 Жыл бұрын
Love vinegar, so must try!
@bdavis7801
@bdavis7801 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I haven't heard of it before. I've actually have a couple of different vinegars that I'm excited to try this with! 😆
@CreeSweetSage61
@CreeSweetSage61 Жыл бұрын
Interesting pie. I'm not a fan of molasses, so this would not be for me. Can you actually make the mock apple pie you were talking about? Have a great week!
@janicek6399
@janicek6399 Жыл бұрын
First thing I thought of was Grandma Jones 😁 my mother's mother. A fabulous cook and pie maker. I think she used sorghum She was from Southern Missouri.
@DeliaLee8
@DeliaLee8 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting!
@jennacomberbach9982
@jennacomberbach9982 Жыл бұрын
My husband loves vinegar, so he will love this.
@KKnits
@KKnits Жыл бұрын
I remember Laura Ingalls Wilder in the Little House books talking about how vinegar pie was one of the pies served to the threshers in the later 1800’s.
@JacquieG
@JacquieG Жыл бұрын
This looks similar to my husband's favorite pie. It's called chess pie and sadly we no longer have his preferred recipe as his mom passed before she shared it
@JCKay
@JCKay Жыл бұрын
Glen made "Chess Pie" before kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKrbi3psadicmpo
@sennest
@sennest Жыл бұрын
Glen has a chess pie on the channel in the archives 🎉
@jjudy5869
@jjudy5869 Жыл бұрын
Why do mothers/grandmothers do that? Our love for them is not dependent on what they cook for us.
@kathya739
@kathya739 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I thought the same as a resemblance to Chess pie.
@raeannuria5691
@raeannuria5691 Жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@critterjon4061
@critterjon4061 Жыл бұрын
Been hoping you would do a video on this recipe
@patrickwingard1927
@patrickwingard1927 Жыл бұрын
very interesting
@juusotauriainen8159
@juusotauriainen8159 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I would like to see that 1875 version now.
@freakzillaformozilla
@freakzillaformozilla Жыл бұрын
Love the channel!
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