188 - VerySuperCool Tools Tablesaw Fence

[@GibbyintheNard]

It's always cool to see woodworkers supporting one another. Tools designed and created by woodworkers, especially like someone as experienced as Allan, seem to be well thought out and actually satisfy a need. Necessity is indeed the mother of invention.

[@merrellnet]

I followed AskWoodMan's video series to build my own VSC Fence and I LOVE IT! It is 100% accurate and very, very flexible. Amazing product.

[@pabillus]

I crave for a workshop like you have. All the necessary machines to get the job done fast and accurate. It's like you're living your dream. Keep up the good work, buddy.

[@Rich32262]

I put this on an early 50's Craftsman table saw that was given to me. I think the capacity was 13" with the original fence. This thing made that craftsman cut dead on. I just bought a new cabinet saw (Harvey tools) and will be putting this fence on it. Always enjoy your videos.

[@READTHISBITCHESZ]

these are industrial aluminuim profiles, and they are made for structural purpose with the ability to connect anything anywhere inline with the tracks, this is some high quality stuff you got here man!

[@theusconstitution1776]

As always fabulous production informative without the crap that other channels add in direct no BS information from a veteran woodworker! Thank you very much I hope you’re enjoying your Christmas vacation with your wife and your children! You’re a good man

[@woodwhisperer]

Honestly, I've been using it the whole time but haven't done anything special with it. It's a reliable fence and when I have time, I'll add more functionality to it. But due to my current schedule, I have no time for extra stuff like that. So as soon as I have anything useful to add, I'll certainly do an update.

[@lencranston8183]

Hi Marc, what have you done with the fence over the past 6 years? Thank you : )

[@lellonhamilton9243]

I'm in Jamaica 🇯🇲 and I saw the guy that made those and I made one for my self thanks to him

[@larrycorron275]

This is a very good upgrade for the table saw. I like that there is an infinite amount of possibilities for add on jigs. One of these will be in my future.

[@woodwhisperer]

I honestly don't think the results would have been questions at all. If you recall, the Clear Vue Mini didn't do so well in that test. In spite of that review, the company was still interested in working with us. Now that's integrity!

[@the_sharp_carpenter]

good on you for supporting other u-tubers and small business I love the fact that you can adjust that fence front and back say if your cutting long pieces and need more registration in front of the blade or flip it on it's side for thin stock. beauty. Great vid as always.

[@oceannavagator]

All right you SOB, this is the third time you've showcased something that I absolutely have to have. One more indecent like this and you'll have to answer to my wife! Seriously man, you're running me into the poor house, but I love the stuff you do. Keep up the good work, just don't tell my wife that I said so.

[@phooesnax]

Allan is a smart guy. His work bench ideas are also awesome.

[@robertterranova7873]

Who else loves these videos?

[@markinmon5766]

I have this fence, all I can say is buy it, it's a awesome fence.

[@woodwhisperer]

Haven't really noticed it on this setup, nor on my previous PM2000 fence. How are you detecting the movement? Is it something that's happening in use? Even if it moves when pushed with your hand at the back, that might not really be a problem in use.

[@woodwhisperer]

Apples and oranges, really. The VSC is really just an upgraded fence. A system like the Incra not only gives you an upgraded fence, but a complete micro-adjustment system, new rails, and a completely different way of positioning the fence for work. Personally, I'm not a fan of the LS32-TS. I prefer the simplicity of the Beisemeyer style. So that's why the VSC fence works well for me as it's nice and straight and has the t-tracks ready to go.

[@blueblur6447]

This shop was great, and the envy of me... However, your new shop in CO has personality and really screams you and your family!

[@lafamillecarrington]

I just discovered how un-straight, not at 90º and slightly warped my fence is. Sadly this fence wont fit my cheap saw, but I like the idea of using aluminium (English, sorry) extrusion as it is so versatile.

[@TheSage1984]

Wow. This is a pretty amazing new "system" - certainly not just a fence. I'm going to talk to Santa and see if I can get one soon.

[@BrownWonTon]

wow this shop is beautiful. heaven on earth..

[@JCHaywire]

That phenomenon you describe--the valleys on the delrin fence plates from Powermatic--is addressed by the manufacturer via Adam Savage. How they are installed is critical to their straightness. I still love the t-slot fence better, though.

[@kimberlyjacobsen4148]

Calibrated the rod style it took som doing but the alignment is spot on .

[@woodwhisperer]

Could just be a general calibration issue. If the fence were moving away from the blade, I don't know that extra mill marks would be the results as you are moving away from the blade. Might be worth running some test pieces and having someone observe the back of the fence to see if it really moves in use and if so, how much.

[@Seeker64]

Hey man, do you have any shows with that Powermatic Chisel mortiser? It looks like it is set up to do the lack mortises in this video.

[@woodwhisperer]

Not that I'm aware of, but I do believe they are working on a solution for non-Biesemeyer fence systems.

[@woodwhisperer]

In most cases that's a good rule of thumb. But in some cases it isn't necessary. Every laminate countertop I have ever seen has been laminated on only one side. Even still, in the case of this fence, it is always bolted to a straight fence, so any warping will be clamped out once the bolts are doing their job. On a piece of 1/2" ply like this, I would expect some warpage but nothing too dramatic.

[@mwilson70201]

Allen/askwoodman, the designer of this fence is a great guy and it's so nice to see you demonstrating one of his products. He and the British woodworker Paul Sellars are two of the most approachable guys in youtube's woodwork instructors community. Since birds of a feather flock together I'll bet your a pretty good guy yourself. I've been watching you for a while now and I'm almost tempted to unsubscribe so I can subscribe again in appreciation of you. God bless and keep up the good work.

[@woodwhisperer]

Yeah it is fully dependent on the square rail setup.

[@brianmeanor7907]

How much did this fence cost?

[@jacobswedberg1402]

You could have just did the same thing to your old fence with aluminum extrusions

[@woodwhisperer]

well thanks for the kind words. Sounds like I made a good choice in reviewing this product. They do seem like a nice bunch of people and I like to support the efforts of people like that. Thanks for staying subscribed. :)

[@woodwhisperer]

I know people who use wood or sheetgoods to make fences and have no trouble. It's a good shop-made solution. Personally I prefer metal for the reasons you mentioned.

[@pespesle]

wow man, thats look like laboratory not wood shop. well done. very neat & clean.

[@RustyCas999]

If you are happy with your existing fence, you can buy this extrusion from 80/20 and easily bolt it to your fence for added versatility.

[@johnwayne2103]

I was thinking about replacing the side of my Table saw fence with an extrusion like you showcased here in your video. Pretty simple and a trip to eBay to get the length I need should work. Thanks

[@popeyhithard2425]

Man what a beautiful workshop you have very nice and clean and filed up whit tools i only can dream off. Awsome

[@austincraft327]

should i get pm 63 artisan saw or new delta 36-725t2 ?

[@Wood_Slice]

Great fence indeed just wonder why that one screw is in line with the center of the blade. Maybe push it forward a bit more till it passes the blade entry/exit point

[@deleetmeeh]

Awesome seeing Allan's and his partners tools on your channel. Been a long time viewer of both channels and nice to watch you show a great American made product. Whenever I need insight or inspiration I look to AskWoodman or The Wood Whisperer. Can't wait until I can get the time to join the guild.

[@LiloUkulele]

On a sliding table saw, Prima 2500 for example, the fence slides forward and back aiding in the alignment of ripping a large sheet, don't need much length after the blade but extending the fence in the front would be awesome.

[@gregandmellissastephens166]

I already have this kind of fence but mine only has a single track on the side. Do you think this is a problem?

[@romonshakra9381]

is also for a portable table saw?

[@jlaviolette1]

That is extremely similar to the fence that came with my Ridgid R4512. It's too bad they made the rail system 2 pieces because the aluminium fence with the T tracks was awesome. Making jigs is incredibly easy.

[@markkoons7488]

Good information but you ought to have a link.

[@WaschyNumber1]

Hello, what is the price for this table saw withe the new fence?

[@johnfloyd4015]

great video....can you tell me what plastic material you added to your fence and can you point me to wherer I can purchase it?

[@jeffreykibler6156]

I started noticing swirl marks in my workpieces from a blade that used to cut like glass. This could be one of those things that has been that way forever and I just never noticed it, but I don't think that is the case. I had the blad professionally sharpened by a company that does it on CNC and the blade still makes the swirl marks. It's a Freud industrial 80T ultimate cutoff.

[@garychristiansen508]

I have an old Steel City Tools 3 HP cabinet saw w/52" rip capacity, The nylon threaded set screws on the fence for adjustment broke and I can't find replacement parts for it. Steel City Tools was bought by a Canadian company and they don't have the parts for the older saws anymore so I was thinking about the very super cool tools fence from your 2012 video. Do you still use the vsctools table saw fence, if not , why? Love your videos!

[@Mac-mu9cs]

How do you square the fence to the blade ?

[@georgewoerner4219]

I saw other comments about this, you got it free etc. I have watched a lot of your videos, I know if it were crap you would tell us, keep on fighting the good fight and Thank You for your wisdom.

[@woodwhisperer]

Thanks George!

[@Wood_Slice]

The tall fence addition is awesome but wish the bolts were further apart near the blade.

[@HenriqueMarcondes1]

Hey man my name is Henrique I'm from Brazil... After I found your channel but I can not stop watching your videos, it seems so easy to do things that you do that will make too... congratulations for your channel, I'm your fan, follow you on facebook also to learn some new things!

[@CarolinaNomad]

I noticed the Wood Whisperer Logo above the Air Filtered moved at the 5:50 mark. I think it needs to be bigger and slightly lower than it is now. Scratch that, slightly lower than it was in the video.

[@jbuilds1]

I designed and built something similar using 80/20 10 series extrusions except I'm also using aluminum extrusion rails and my system costs significantly less.

[@21BDP21]

P.S. I think that it is 8020 extruded aluminium. Nuts = drop in t-nuts. My high school used this stuff for the FIRST robotics program.

[@sjscreations2608]

Good stuff looking after those that scratch your back. Especially when it is a great product! Cheers, Aussie Sean

[@whatthehank1]

Marc, Being the leader in the video training of wood working - my suggestion to help these guys is do a little more of what you just did. Based on your video I would buy this fence - going over to the website (probably a little too harsh) It looked "fly-by-night" and basically untrustworthy! It is simply - you and Nicole put out an EXTREMELY professional learning program - they should too and I think you can help. Just my little opinion!

[@brucealvarez9263]

Sadly I have the "same" Craftsman (1990) saw with the "must adjust both front and back" fence every single time it is moved. I have to measure from the fence to a slot because the distal end kicks to the side when I lock the fence down. I don't know if there are good aftermarket fences for such an old thing.

[@TimothyRitzer]

On the Very Super Cool Tools site he actually has a full set of links to youtube videos and instructions on how to make your own from some raw metal. No welding needed, but some drilling, and he goes into way way more detail than really needed.

[@drowization]

Great vid good sir but what would recommend for a table saw for someone who is just getting into wood working please ????

[@woodwhisperer]

I don't know about "best", as there are tons of books on various area of woodworking. Both Taunton and Popular Woodworking put out some excellent content in book form.

[@luisromero3734]

Forget the fence...Love the Shirt!!!

[@davidpass4281]

Got to love the Thundercats...

[@berrytate8540]

I have been thinking about adding a plastic fence face on my rip fence, how did you add yours.

[@ZXCharlieR]

Hi, I am currently building a fence for a smaller table saw that I am extending and wondered about the height and width of the main aluminium part of the fence, could you share them please?

[@havenisse2009]

Very nice. Heh your table saw is just about as large as my small shed where I can do woodworking. You are spoiled with so much space. And.. your workshop looks like a cleanroom. Good job.

[@MURRD0CK]

Great video as always Marc! Do you know if they sell a front and back rail for the table saw to accommodate for this fence? I have a Ridgid R4512 and I don't think that fence would fit correctly. But I do know that the rails on my saw can be changed out. Thanks.

[@vasiliysaenko8430]

Станки и оборудование - Супер !!!

[@HepauDK]

That looks like a lot of air under the aluminium extrusion. Won't that become an issue with thin material? Looks like anything under 1/4" might become a problem...

[@Djwceend]

Hi, did is ever work with an europe tabelsaw? If you have, do you not want one?

[@rogerwhiting9310]

Who makes that fence?

[@mrsaezs]

Hi , I have a dewalt745 table saw and I like to upgrade. I live out of US and is not possible to find inch iron tubing, as VSCT shows in drawings to build own support for the fence. VSCT help me and provide options to build the rail with metric tubing. Other option that I am thinking to buy is incra, at the end the cost will be the same. Any comments about which choose?

[@FreeBallard88]

Hi Marc, now that you've been using this for a few month, maybe you could create a short follow up video to say how it's going with the fence. Also would be interesting see any jigs you might have created for it or hear how you've been using it.

[@shockdocracing]

I put this on my rigid table saw. It was AWESOME! I then thought I was upgrading and bought a Powermatic PM2000. Compared to the VSC, it was absolute garbage. Talk about regret. I need to buy a VSC for the Powermatic.

[@davem5843]

In regards to the Biesemeyer fence, do you know if their still made in the US ? I'm going to replace my Delta unisaw with either the Biesemeyer or a Vega fence.

[@ctpctp]

I just bought the Vega after reading the Biesemeyer reviews on Amazon. It sounds like Delta has really screwed it up since buying them. The Vega was easy to install on my old direct drive 12" Craftsman, and so far I am happy with it. I didn't go with the VSCT because I have way too much to try to get done already without also having to make a set of guide rails too.

[@ivehadenough17]

Its been a couple of years now, can you give an update on this please?

[@gamepurpose]

he never use it. Its sponsor video, free stuffs

[@michaelglaser1669]

@@gamepurpose not true, he uses it in all of his new videos...

[@garychristiansen508]

I didn't notice the date for your super cool tool video for the table saw fence. How do you like it now that you've used it for a while? I'm thinking of getting one myself, just hope it will fit my 3 h.p. Steel City table saw.

[@JohnSmith-te1pm]

what is that huge clear box over the jet machine?

[@rchavez5056]

Look again it's not over the jet machine. I thought the same.🤣😂 I think it's the take saw dust collector that goes over the blade.

[@woodwhisperer]

All I know about it is it's called Acoustic Sunrise. It comes as royalty-free music with Apple products.

[@HappyJackCreations]

Will you be keeping the verysupercool fence on your saw?

[@seumas2]

macduff used the same extrusion for the fence, but the biggest difference and thinking out of the box is the fence being fixed or stationary on the the table which slides left and right to by pass the blade for the width of cut up to 49 ins, it is pure dead simple with no deviation ever. It has a name. slainte mhath

[@jeffreykibler6156]

I just recently found your videos and thanks to you I have done nothing but watch youtube for the last 3 days. You are awesome. Regarding the fence do you get much movement towards the back of the fence. I have a PM 66 saw and my acufence moves up to an 1/8" towards the back of the fence (side to side) and I cant get it to stop. I have tried all the obvious stuff with no luck (tighten rails, tighten adjustments, etc.).

[@David-pz4jq]

+The Wood Whisperer, I see this video is from 2012. Do you still use this fence? And if so or even if not could you please do another video showing where you are currently with you fence issues. Thanks and love your channel the most. i am a very new, self and youtube taught woodworker just getting started.

[@Psychlist1972]

I haven't seen it in use in recent videos.

[@JayBates]

He's still using it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJOpgqRnpaqrnJY

[@craxmasta]

There are a few components to building a table saw. One plan I found which succeeds in merging these is the Wilfs wood blueprint (check it out on google) without a doubt the best guide that I've seen. Check out all the super info .

[@bobbg9041]

Jessem clear cut table saw guids for sheet stock.

[@woodwhisperer]

Honestly there isn't much to it. As long as you get the tape in roughly the same position, you can make the fine adjustment where the little plastic window attaches to the fence. Should be a pretty quick job.

[@bigg4057]

I bought my aluminum tee nut fence in the late 90s Nothing new there Bought from Peach tree woodworking supply's I have on on my table saw and my router table .. Best thing ever made ..

[@AnasSuhaimi]

How is that aluminum extrusion different than the other already in the market?

[@airwolf61970]

Anas Suhaimi probably the price

[@ExploringCabinsandMines]

YOUR SHOP IS TO CLEAN !!

[@ThekiBoran]

davetileguy Do you mean too clean?

[@ericdefratis7109]

Is there any flex at the back of the fence?

[@woodwhisperer]

+Eric DeFratis Not that i've ever noticed.

[@ericdefratis7109]

Cool

[@ericdefratis7109]

What happened to the Incra system?

[@woodwhisperer]

www.thewoodwhisperer.com/articles/impressions-incra-ls32-ts-table-saw-fence-system/

[@elvisoshaughnessy1255]

Hi would you be able bring a video on building sacrificial fence for those who don't have dado blade

[@airwolf61970]

elvis o'shaughnessy it's a straight thin board clamped to your fence.

[@rchavez5056]

@@airwolf61970 WOW you are so technical. 🤣😂 The funny part is that it's as simple as you explained.

[@Damin-Danger-Ledford]

The Wood Whisker is another name for The Splinter. Same with the Wood Whisperer.

[@howmuchbsisthis]

That really is an amazing fence just checked out the web site for a price & I don't think so to get one here in Australia it would cost me twice what I paid for my saw very nice but just to expensive

[@Epostaxis]

i am SOOOOOOOOooooooo jealous of your new workplace Marc... :)

[@dennisfahlstrom7422]

Mark, I like this idea a lot but think the prices they are asking are out of touch. $350 for a 48” fence is bordering obscene. I’d think they could do far better in profit on volume if they charged half this much ...or less. There can’t be much more than $60 in parts here. Maybe a pro finish carpenter can rationalize this - I can’t, especially since I already have all the jigs I can use made for my Biesenmier style fence and they work just fine.

[@billdvorak]

biesenmier fence

[@garykarczewski6678]

Marc, Sorry to be redundant but on Video 3 you state you just up graded to the INCRA TS-LS fence system. Do you use the Very Super Cool Table Saw Fence or are you using the Incra TS -LS system? I am on the fence on both of these but only want to purchase one. Thoughts as per feature/benefit of both from your experience?

[@garykarczewski6678]

You have moved a few times and your shop gear also has been evolving. I have an old 1. HP Craftsman saw and was curious does it makes sense to invest in upgrades on old saws or get a newer saw then get the upgrades?

[@richardpatterson4312]

He doesn't use the incra tsls anymore, he responded to a later comment with a link to his blog review. Basically, it just wasn't for him.

[@BoxcarJerry]

Allens a good guy !!

[@thiswoodwork]

Biesemeyer sytle fences seem to be pretty much unheard of in the UK. My new saw doesn't have one but to be honest the fence system it has is pretty good, it's an aluminium extrusion which is pretty nice as it already has the t-tracks, not sure how much I will use that feature but it is cool to have it there. :) Cool product this one nonetheless!

[@promold350]

Your new shop has an echo in the audio. I too have a drywalled shop with high ceilings and it can get loud.

[@lintelle2382]

add a chunk of 8020 extrusion to something that rides on the fence bar. pretty simple idea.

[@Lumens1]

Do you still use this fence?

[@woodwhisperer]

+JoshL an updated version, yes

[@CaptonTypo]

Love your videos AND your t-shirt!!!

[@flipspiceland64]

Powermatic 66 with round rails. I guess that means I have to buy new rails?? to use this fence?

[@bobbg9041]

No he said a craftsman he had had round rails, the powermatic has a besmier type fence, and that is what this works on. Both my Grizzly, and Jet also have that style fence. And if you didnt know they with sawstop and almost every brand are made in the same factory in Twian. If you can weld you could make one of these.

[@markpersaud5768]

What u doing with the old one