1880s Victorian Crochet Showdown: Roger's Pick | Just Vintage Crochet

[@rogerauclair9778]

Hello everyone it’s Roger, aka Mr. Smartie pants 😂. I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you for the wonderful comments, and mostly for all the kindness and genuine support this community has shown my sister. She’s an amazing woman and a great blessing in my life everyday ! Look forward to the next showdown at the crochet corral 🙈🥰

[@rositaminichiello8869]

Love these patterns you find and following your instructions 🧶

[@joicosta-mello3861]

We look forward to the next Showdown also!!🤗👍

[@deniseporter217]

I luv your relationship, we can truly see and feel the luv you two have for each other!!!❤️ I can’t wait for the next showdown either!!!😁👍

[@blktauna]

You sister is a gem. I'm glad you appreciate her :)

[@The_Crafting_Gamer]

I love it so much I got the book

[@WinkTartanBelle]

This is a good example of why patterns that start out saying something like "Chain in multiples of X plus Y" work out so much better for most people. Having a repeating motif, one can count the number of stitches required to complete the motif once, then add whatever number of chains needed to start a row at the proper stitch height. It's so much harder to explain in just words than it is with pictures and words together. I *think* this is going to work out in multiples of 8 plus 4, but I'm going to need to test it out to be sure. Things get so much more complicated when switching stitches/patterns part way through, and then the additional complication of going from back-and-forth rows to in-the-round work. Then there are the usual variances of yarn and hook size, individual gauge (how tension affects the size) and how exacting your "square" must be to satisfy your own eye. Experience and a good eye go a long way towards making these types of patterns work out in a way that doesn't break your brain while still looking nice. Sometimes you just gotta wing it! It'll be ok. It's not like we are carving things in stone here. You can always pull it out and try again. I'll play with this and report back if I come up with a solid recommendation on the starting chain count. It's too hot here to do a full day in the garden, so I'll have some time to play with it.

[@mariankay6482]

When/if you decide to work this out, will you put the answer here as a comment so it's easier to find in the thread of comments? Thanks. I am gonna try it but I don't know if I can do it. It looks like they have 3 spaces in between each shell in the photo, that said, some look a bit different. A woman, back then, would be able to figure it by reading the pattern and looking at the photo before she ever started it. It also might have been oblong by having one row less than square to make the stitches play out right all the way around. Good project to hone some skills for writing my own patterns!

[@MaryAnnMakes]

How would you then know how many rows? I would think a set number of rows would be easier to deal with to get "square* or even a multiple of rows.... I dunno.

[@WinkTartanBelle]

@@mariankay6482 I will do that! Probably sometime this week. 👍

[@tabbykitten05]

It seems to need a multiple of 5 + 4 filet squares on each side when the main square is done and you start the edging. So, chain a *multiple of 10 + 9* (then start next row with the extra chain 4 added to that for the first *dc ch1*) Work until approximately a square with a multiple of 5 + 4 rows. I haven’t tried it yet as I’m trying to finish another project first but I’ll definitely try. (this is my best guess but I absolutely could be wrong)

[@LadyValkyri]

In terms of ease and understandable, YOURS. Prettier? Rogers! I applaud your efforts on this one, for sure! You amaze me, taking all that nonsense and translating it for us into small, bite-sized chunks. You rock! YAY for Spanish Barbie shawls! Hugs

[@rosemarycreollo4326]

My my my.....I love this beautiful shawl and may make it for my sister. Kudos to Roger for his good taste. And I love the beautiful little sachet - I may enlarge it to a purse for myself. Kudis to you Corrina for your good taste. Sounds like you two need to treat the family to a big family dinner! Bring on more duals! Thank you for another excellent tutorial!

[@Middle-Road.Kim.K]

I *really* tried to be objective, but I'll give BOTH patterns a double 👍👍... If you held my hooks hostage until I decided, I'd have to pick the shawl as the pattern has both a fast workup part (yea!) and gorgeous detail (ooooh!). I make both pocket-based things AND shawls and I love 'em both equally! ❤❤❤ But what I love more is that this is a family thing, with your son prepping the mysteries and Roger coming to play with us. That is my favorite thing of all. 💁‍♀️🙋‍♂️🙆

[@Troutay]

I agree! It is Roger's fault! If you can't blame your sibling, who can you blame? J/K. While the shawl is lovely, I do like the small sachet you made the best. It seems to be more useful than the shawl and not so fiddly. So in my mind, you win!

[@starryfoxplushie]

This is such a beautiful shawl! It's almost unfair to choose, because even if this was Roger's pick, the video and the company is all you, which is always pleasant and fun to watch 🥰 I must say, however, I'm very partial to the sachet. I'm almost done with mine and it's just such a lovely thing 💕💖 So if I gotta cast a vote, I say you win!

[@melindakleczek222]

I like them both but for my own personal preference, I would be more likely to make the shawl over the sachet. But for the sheer fun of it, I would still like to make everything in the book!

[@kairenlewis7526]

I liked both patterns on their own, but taken side by side and being asked to choose? I think Rogers pattern might have looked better if it was all one colour, for me it was just too busy. Therefore, the sachet gets my vote, as there was nothing I didn't like about that one, it was gorgeous!

[@stephanieroberts4474]

That would look adorable on that back of a couch or chair

[@doreenmoss8589]

This reminds me of my great grandmother cookbook, her favorite dishes I had to figure out the recipes and write them in the book so fun to get them just right

[@mariankay6482]

Yes! Add a dash of this or a pinch of that and a scoshe of the other. ??? Or, "the recipe called for a half a cup but I added a little more to make it...." Yes, exactly!

[@leahbailey447]

I liked them both. I could see Roger's patter in all white as a baby blanket. But I would more likely make Corrinas choice. GREAT SHOWDOWN !! This was fun

[@yazdhenab.]

This mini-shawl is beautiful! For a full size version, I guess a 2 metres wide brown center square should be enough for covering the shoulders and be fold on the chest. Would you do it in full size? Maybe in only one colour that you have in you stock^^

[@DLRyoung]

I’m not going to lie, I love this one, they are both pretty cool, but this….. is the bee’s Knee’s! God bless

[@CatTravis]

Sorry, Corrina, Roger got this on. Love how you made adjustments to the instructions to make them more understandable.

[@cindywalker1769]

So I just had a lightbulb moment. Because these projects are both very beautiful, you could always make them a set. You could add the medallions on satchel to match the shawl Or add the ruffles & medallions to the satchel. Or add the satchel flowers/bows around the shawl to match. Have the colors the same. I know the satchel is a chevron & the shawl is shells which is different styles of stitches, but they would be unique with some similarities. 🤣I’m trying here. 🤣🤣🤣 Both are so beautiful. You both had great picks. Thank you both ✌🏻🫶🏻😀

[@shannonvickers145]

You are so smart to figure out theses patterns. That little shawl is the cutest thing. Hadn’t ever seem that way to construct a shawl. Frankly I think your brother won this time although I did like yours too.

[@johnnywasp1333]

Well That is a fact! I will pick Roger! I LOVE this shawl !!

[@susananderson3478]

Corinna dear wonderful lady, I am not a big fan of shawls, if I make one I use them as a swag…I absolutely loved the sachet! I love black and white and can’t wait until I can crochet again! As always you inspire me!Can’t wait to see your next toot! Love❤

[@bethtuten9378]

The patterns are so different, a side by side comparison isn't exactly fair. They are both beautiful in their right. That being said, this is my personal fave. But I'm biased; I love lacy, ruffley things and am personally not a big fan of chevrons - with the one exception of round star blankets. Size wise, I think this is more of an American Girl dream shawl 😂 Thanks for sharing your beautiful creations with us! I always look forward to watching your videos, and love your mystery patterns. Maybe we can look forward to more sibling pick videos? 💜

[@AmoCultumAlo]

They're both very pretty, but if I have to choose, it would be yours. The original sachet pattern is gorgeous. Your modifications were stunning as well. It's very versatile and looks in some ways simpler than this one. For many reasons, I'd say you won this showdown.

[@doninis1354]

I really like both. "Mr smarty pants" has a great tast, too.

[@DSMC46]

I love them both! I want to make the shawl as a baby blanket for my new granddaughter 😁. It’s so pretty. Then I’m making the other one for myself lol Beautifully done and I love the way you figure stuff out!

[@cathifasching2770]

Unfortunately, I am unable to choose. Both are so creative. Love, love, love!

[@TheKatherine1958]

Hi Corinna & Rodger 😊 I like them both. But I would. I just enjoy watching you work out the patterns and watch you creating the pattern and your precise stitching. I really like the colors Rodger chose and the frilly little Barbie dream shawl!

[@justvintagecrochet]

He says yaaassss , n thank you :)

[@virginiawilkinson5038]

You do a beautiful job, and explanation really helps . This is one I would have gone to my mother in law, she knew everything. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and working out the pattern.

[@devils.advocate2354]

Beautifully worked as always. I’m partial to your pick but both are lovely. Really liked Rogers color choices. I’ll be you Huckleberry when you start slinging crochet hooks 😂

[@miketa87]

Wow, was this ever fun!! I am partial to the shawl, but the sachet is also pretty. Well done to both choices!

[@C.Paxton]

I love them both! The Lil dealybobs r cute as heck. Medallions. Roger's pic for me .Sorry Corrina.😅 They are both beautiful I'm thnkn of purchasing this book. But alas I do NOT have your endless patience. Oh btw love your channel , sharing this with all the younger ladies is priceless. Isn't it? Thanks again young lady.

[@RDGrandy]

I love everything you do! But if I'd have to choose... I have to say yours. Only because, I'm personally more likely to make and use the sachet before I would the shawl. Thank you for all the time and effort you put forth for us to have access to all these Beautiful works❤

[@frozenstone1787]

I love them both. But i would have to pick the shawl love the colors andvI make more shawls.❤ 😮

[@olgs37]

BTW, I just wanted you to know that I love your mystery crochet videos! I get sad when I realize I've seen all of them and am always very anxious for another. Please don't feel like you're going to bore us with them. I hardly doubt I'm the only one thinking like this!

[@merrybond8520]

This turned out so cute! I am consistently amazed at how you are able to decipher these historical patterns. 🥰

[@carolannramos6691]

Like how you did the medallions. Added it to my arsenal of stitches. Thanks ❤❤❤❤

[@MarthaDiazTaylor]

I like the sachet best!

[@ruthyoung1302]

Love both of them. Roger you do have good taste lol

[@brendagarner6367]

I can't decide! They are both beautiful!

[@annemcginn1086]

I think your choice wins - with a little modification it could become a clutch bag!!!!

[@elliesr]

I've got to say that I like the sachet more than Roger's shawl. But I love Roger's voice! It's a radio voice. This was fun!

[@doreenmoss8589]

I like both they go together ❤

[@susanty3946]

I Soooo wanted to choose your sachet, but I have to say I like this shawl better, so I will go with Roger's pick. I'm a sucker for shawls though. Looking forward to seeing what other shawls you make from this book.

[@patricialittle2406]

Loved both projects but the nightdress purse was alot easier to follow. I will try the shawl but on a day when I can focus on each row and get them lined up. Thanks for the videos, they are a great reference and the items are fun to create.

[@mariankay6482]

I liked the shawl best. I just have to say it. I am not a chevron fan but I have a friend who is and i may make a little sachet for her. She sews, so, I will let her so the lining and I will give her some lavender and rose petals from my garden to place in it and then she can put it in one of her drawers probably where her "drawers" are. 😂 I do wish you had made the "bobbles" like the pattern said on the edge of the shawl, even just a few, to see what they looked like worked up. I think the bobble stitch would have made a cute edge, with rounded balls instead of flat double crochets. But, I guess I'll have to work it up and see. I love the shawl!!!

[@liberry]

Lovely pattern! Roger's choice of colors is amazing!

[@LauraS_1194]

Very cool! Shawl pattern❤🎉😊

[@Kelli.Hicks.5]

Those medallions are so much fun.

[@margaretwatson7255]

I like both of them and I think you are very clever to work it all out. I love watching your videos thank you so much for taking the time to show us how it’s done xx

[@alisonmary1443]

Ruffle edge, my kind of shawl Love Love! I'll keep this one for nearer the winter, going to make the bag now. Thank you both for the on screen sibling hand fight 😂💖

[@kaytiej8311]

Both are gorgeous. I think the showdown is a win/win.

[@daisygirl9914]

Love both picks. Must add this book to my wishlist.

[@bonniel3679]

Although I like them both, I have to give the edge to this one because pinks & burgundy are my favorite colors. Also, this looks more Victorian to me than the other. I enjoyed watching you make both. Thank you 😊

[@roxanamcglinchey6613]

Its hard to choose a winner, I do really like both. I love the colour choice of Rodgers. I do think the Sachet was easier to follow though. I just love your work Corrina, you amaze me with your talents!! I thoroughly enjoy your tutorials ❤

[@adelacoburn1396]

Oh I like the first one as much as this one but I do love this pattern 🧶🧶🧶. Awesome video Corinna, looking forward to the next one 😊. Thank you M. Smartie pants!! 😁😉

[@maverickmayhem6409]

The sachet....its definitely the sachet more use out of it for the effort. I love the color combos of the shawl...just order something yummy.

[@maryfore2250]

I enjoyed them both. I would really like to see the blouse next to them

[@aolster3198]

(I was typing and it disappeared!) I like Roger's shawl. I made a triangular shawl very similar some years ago. It was meditative as each section repeats for a significant number of rows. I like your sachet as it's a small piece and I like the modern touch of the back lines and the variation you worked for the edging. Both pieces are beautiful. Because the sachet is a small piece and something I've not worked before, it edges into the winner's circle by a thread! 9:06 Looking forward to the next head to head!

[@yvonnepiperata5995]

They are both beautiful, especially because you put your own little twist on them. This was a fun challenge between you and your brother.

[@novamcclung5382]

I've been trying your pattern and taken it apart quite a few times. I finally got the idea to make in the triangle and make a shawl. This made it work out much better. ❤❤❤

[@brendacarter1574]

Hard decision! I think I will have to say it’s a tie! I love how you made the shawl and I can think of many possibilities with yarn colors! And of course you can adapt it to fit dolls! Thank you for sharing!

[@lindacurry2117]

I have to say that I just love both projects. 😊

[@TeaAndFloppyDisks]

This is very pretty too! My tastes are less "ruffly" though, so I would prefer your pick if I were making something for myself.

[@annseigman1824]

I like them both, but Roger’s shawl has the edge❤

[@cindyfrye3026]

It does seem so easy after watching this tutorial. I'm planning on using it in a kitchen set.

[@carolwolf2083]

I couldn't choose. They are both beautiful!☺

[@dare-67]

They are both beautiful, but I love the purse the most. Thank you

[@LeetQuilter]

Love both , they are lovely !

[@stevejacques6585]

I looooove all shawls anything fancy lacy and I love the purse you designed so sorry I can't choose. Thanks to you both for the entertainment portion of your videos

[@christinaczarnecki625]

Love both but...sachet a tiny bit more ! Thank you for the fun !!!

[@jmolvera8337]

Beautiful nails, "Just Vintage" lady and of course exceptional instructions!

[@justvintagecrochet]

Thank you so much!

[@joannadelbuono6132]

both are beautiful -

[@barbarasturges8020]

I think it's a draw. Both are beautiful. Thank you

[@karenallen8424]

I like them both so much but I think I like Rogers a bit more because I would possibly use it more and I like the colors he chose too! I also just noticed that I moved about an hour away from you earlier this year when I knew my Dad was close to passing away so I could help my mom. I’m in Kingman but used to live in Fort Mohave off Camp Mohave on Caitlin Ave. Much love ❤️

[@karenalbery2773]

I dont think i would make either but i liked both videos because i like you and obviously your brother is sort of awesome. My brother would not engage in any yarny conversation much less understand a crochet project. So you each get a point from me. What a fun idea. Next time announcement and release both videos together then post a poll to vote!

[@Teerae11]

It's a tie for me , but partial most to the Shawl , Roger picked some nice colors too , love the spins on the Sachet you did , it really looks better than the frilly fril frill lol great video !!! Thanks Corinna and Thanks Roger love the video cover too eye catching 33:28

[@leestreeter7265]

I want to try the shawl with a gradient/color changing yarn. Cannot wait.

[@HildeStitzinger]

I love it just as mutch as the tablerunner.❤ you both keep up the good work 😅😅😊

[@staylor5687]

I like them both as well. I would never use the purse but it was really pretty. I would likely use a shawl and so if I were choosing which to make, it would be the shawl. But that has nothing to do with how pretty they are, just what would be the most useful to me. I love them both.

[@tinacasko7882]

I am obsessed with shawls❤ 1:23

[@diane64yorks]

Hello, I preferred the sachet, it was much more usable, the shawl is nice but I don't like the dangly bits, my preference on shawls is fringe or nothing 😊 Best wishes from Yorkshire, England 🇬🇧

[@ShyHill1111]

Hi Corinna, my Mom and I love watching you and your channel. She's 86 years old (a master at crochet) and she taught me to crochet when I was about 10. Mom loves tiny crochet with small hooks like you do on your vintage challenges. We watch you together and have the best time. She designed and crocheted 4 gorgeous framed Christmas Trees for me and my siblings --- and she has asked me to send pictures to you because you enjoy and understand intricate crochet. She believes you will appreciate seeing the little "ornaments" she made for her project. Is there a way I can do this for her? Can I please email pictures to you? Thank you so much and keep up the excellent work you do to show others the joy of crochet. You're so fun to watch and quite an inspiration for all generations.

[@ziggycrafts5316]

I think sister has it in the bad! It was so gorgeous. I want to make one now, and I don’t even use purses 😊

[@crisstole6830]

Hi thamks for a great day just watching your mystery patterns as i sit and crochet myself xx

[@leissavogler138]

I like both patterns but prefer the bag...only because I don't wear shawls sorry Roger. Love what you do on this channel! You are very talented!

[@yvethemetriccrafter688]

I love them both and i think they both have equal use , they are very different objects so impossible to choose .

[@adrahtaylor7993]

Love them both can’t pick just one !

[@lpost7915]

Well I haven't made anything u have shown. But I absolutely love your videos.and one day I will make something you show. The mystery videos are my fav

[@dianeboughan6840]

I liked both but prefer your pick. Your work is inspiring thank you for sharing ❤

[@Aegopodium]

I probably would do as many rows and stiches and hope for the best 😆

[@nataliethomas6673]

I absolutely love both of them. I am, however, partial to a good shawl. Am not sure how I would get on with this pattern, but I can't wait to see when you do it to the right size 😄😁

[@tanyasnyder9033]

I love both patterns. But I go more towards the sachet purse

[@belindajackson1158]

I'm loving you vides so much the old patterns and Inspire me to want to crochet more. By the way, I think the show was better than the first one that you picked out. But they both like you said, are beautiful. Thanks again.

[@Summerrainfalling]

I can't pick so I'm going with a tie 🎉 Congrats! You both win 😁

[@Pammy_Yolo]

They're both gorgeous! Honestly I don't know if I can pick 😊❤

[@debbiehannah4817]

I love everything you do, your skill is absolutely amazing, you must have a large store of patience to decode these old patterns. Thank you for sharing

[@justvintagecrochet]

Thank you so much!

[@ArtJunkie]

It’s gorgeous. I love them both. But I must say I will be making Rogers the other one has really no purpose for me ❤😊

[@RealMelodyBlue]

I could see a T shirt with "Make it Work " on it with a crochet hook , a yarn and a really janky mess of a work on it, lol 🤣😂🤣😂

[@lauriekurad]

I'd wear one !❤

[@RealMelodyBlue]

@@lauriekurad I'm thinking about designing the picture and have our local t shirt printing shop print it out for me, lol 😂

[@lauriekurad]

@@RealMelodyBlue ... I'd by one in light Blue with a v neck ☺❤

[@LadyWiggin]

I enjoyed both patterns. Both were lovely

[@cruzianfibergeek]

I do like them both but I'm parcial to the sachet especially the black stripe in the pattern

[@aliwilson4130]

I really like the sachet best.

[@melindaschluter1669]

Beautiful colors! ❤❤❤