1904 #4 Jewell Steam Engine Evaluation

[@JustinJennings]

I love these old engines. I also think it's cute that it appears this widow maker's full-time job is to cut fire wood for its own fire box. I enjoyed the video and thank you for sharing. Cheers!

[@GGigabiteM]

I'd argue that this setup is safer than modern saws. There are no pinch points and plenty of clearance around the saw, you'd likely get bounced off or thrown away from it if you came into contact with it. Modern saws with their metal shields and plastic retractable safety guards are death traps guaranteed to suck anything they grab into them. The only death trap really present is where the belt returns to the flywheel, but you'd basically have to lunge into it willingly, there's no reason to be anywhere near it during operation.

[@thomasglynn2282]

Perpetual engine? lol

[@Drifter1969]

My father was called Dr. of engines from collectors across the United States! He had over 350 antique hit and miss gas engines! Titans, Galloways, sandwich etc. 👍

[@jaylittleton1]

Thank you for including the note about Dave Richards. It's great to see folks keeping the mechanical history alive.

[@gbrown4796]

Jay Littleton ,,no oil in cups

[@lespanharddufurania]

1904 --- 2020 = 116 années de bons et loyaux services ...J'adore . Bravo pour cette prouesse ... !!!

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

Merci.

[@jrb_sland5066]

I'm late to the party, but many thanks for the Rites Patent Governor information. I watched the entire video without seeing any sign of a classical flyball mechanism, and was baffled by your references to a governor. Once I read your text all made sense. I have now d'loaded copies of various Rites patents for further study. Great fun!

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

FYI the Rites governor was also applied to the Fairbanks-Morse YH series of stationary diesel engines.

[@Geordo1960]

Watching you run these machines is like watching you make gold!

[@jlucasound]

It is amazing that anything got accomplished before this invention! I Love It!!

[@aridwiutami3695]

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[@crazynmad89]

Video is very much clear and each step is shown while starting this queen...

[@stevenclaeys6252]

A little more TLC would go a long way. Very cool video. Thank you for sharing.

[@wildbill9480]

Great video, I'm a retired operating steam engineer and have falling in love with your boiler and cut off saw. wish you lived close to me, your friend from Fl. thank you for your time!

[@CBeard849]

Lol....that belt looks like a monster laughing! Just a couple days ago I was in the woods visiting the site of an old mine and stamp mill here in Oregon. It was a intensely quiet and peaceful. You know that to run that mill they had to have at least one of these things running constantly to crush the ore. The sound must have carried for miles!

[@fredmanicke5078]

The sound of that buzz saw blade stalling out in that block of wood raises the hair on my arms, I use to hate cutting firewood with my father, who ran a model T ford engine and a similar swing table set up. I had to stack the blocks and being about 10 years old, I was never fast enough or strong enough.

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

Interesting story. A friend of mine really enjoys cutting. When I would take the saw to a show he wanted to do the sawing and I let him. It reminded him of the time he did it with his father.

[@douglassteiskal9097]

Like other people have said “ sharpen the saw, engine won’t have to work as hard . Saw twice as much wood ! Good video! Lovely machinery

[@cosmiccolonel]

“The steam blower helps urge a reluctant fire to life” holy shit, that was the understatement of the year.....

[@raymondgarafano8604]

This is GREAT, cutting wood for the boiler and probably for a stove in the house. I am familiar with governor flyweights, seen those on engines at N.E. steam an wireless museum, love to see a 3 phase alternator with exciter as amps an volts are my thing. This is very impressive .

[@davidrichards5594]

That's a pretty early patent for automatic cut off. You can really see the valve stroke increase as the speed slows down. Very nice demonstration and video. Hope to see more of it when you get it straightened out a little more.....Dave

[@b.h.gillagroindustry3664]

David Richards

[@jameskaade9068]

i was looking for that, maybe my old eyes can't quite see it.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

Is there a name for this particular kind of valve gear?

[@sictransitgloriamundi230]

It is amazing that the drive belt manages such a power transmission despite the low tension.

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

The magic is derived from that industrial elixir called belt dressing. It adds just a hint of tackiness to the belt surface.

[@Slazlo-Brovnik]

I like KZbin because you get to see stuff like this ... from the other side of the world.

[@wallypryse7389]

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[@UnderPressurePowerWashingLLc]

Someone finally showed the oiler working. Good stuff. A+ video....

[@brucebellinger9783]

Ah, the memories this video evoked. You might want to check the dish on the saw blade. It should "sing" when buzzing wood. Also the RPMs are a bit low. Or perhaps, get a larger diameter blade.

[@michaelamos8271]

Sweet setup you've got there , thanks for sharing it with us .

[@rosellerodriguez2082]

Its an old engine

[@balinhpham1536]

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[@boatshaper]

When crosscutting, having one hand on each side of the blade will close the kerf and bind the saw. Use both hands on one side, or one hand and a push stick when the stock gets short.

[@mathuetax]

Can't wait to hear how this sounds after the bearing knock is gone. Subscribed!

[@crazyhorsetrading8655]

thanks for the upload. An amazing engine, gosh I sure would love to have one to play with

[@lesterbowman9558]

Very interesting Video. Jewels are well made engines. You have an interesting channel and do nice work.Good projects.Lots of behind the scenes "work" goes on behind these short videos and I can see how hard you work at it. Thank you:) Lester Bowman.

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

Thanks for the compliments. I am trying to tell a story that is both entertaining as well as informative with each of these videos.

[@blues145j]

Cheap worn crankshaft bearing fix is to cut up beer cans and place around the shaft. The aluminum last way longer than you would think.

[@kurtdietrich5421]

You have a lot of nice toys. I'm envious.

[@entrad157]

I loved counting the many OH&S issues with this whole set up :) ;). A great sound and smell.

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

Snowflakes need not apply.

[@entrad157]

Love It!@@lineshaftrestorations7903

[@craigmilligan616]

The flat belt seems loose, which lets it slip. Also,, from my experience in belt work, you might want to flip the belt inside out on one side, which makes the belt stand on it's side in the middle. It keeps it from flapping up and down. It also wears on both sides, extending belt life.

[@ponkkaa]

Beautiful engine. I would love to have one of those in my yard... My neighbors on the other hand would probably not be thrilled.

[@stevelamperta865]

I am so glad I don't have neighbors ! I could never live beside anyone... I have to have my own space... I would go into a deep depression without it..

[@Romin.777]

I would keep it running 24/7 Live in a ghetto..

[@gregorymalchuk272]

@Pennsylvania Mike "An aging, lawn ornament, power boiler". Those are some pretty scary words.

[@dannypoorboy906]

Love the dancing belt seems a bit loose but seems to be working fine

[@clivekibbler4578]

i always miss a heart beat when we shown a log cutter

[@kenzpenz]

Oh OSHA is gonna get you...:-) great video. That thing scared me and I'm watching on KZbin. I thought the engine was take off the way it was going. Great video, lots of hard work on your part...thanks for sharing...

[@zippy3711]

Wonderful machine, Looks like fun !

[@jordangrubbs9687]

Great stuff thanks for sharing amazing how high of quality stuff was then

[@ajayindunegi]

Very satisfying. Thanks for the sharing.

[@tiotheberk]

So cool, I love to see ingenuity from our history live and in action. Though this whole set up makes me nervous as hell!!

[@glasslinger]

It's like the saw blade doesn't have enough set to the teeth.

[@Antipodean33]

Great stuff really interesting clip, the industrial revolution was a huge leap for mankind

[@sinclairopaline]

Not only are the pillows loose and worn ,the wobbling is beating the rod and eccentric bearings. I know I would be running it and sawing and playing also ,before taking apart and re bearing it. It’s better and more fun that way,it’s the only way, and as you are rebuilding ,you hear it running in your head!

[@joedover9514]

I realise the valve slide is pitted and leaking to the exhaust port but also the bearings being shot on the crank are affecting the valve timing too..

[@johnandjudivalley]

He should check the blade in one early shot it looks like it is in backwards. Yes it will cut but look just how long it takes

[@VSTARMAN51]

Wonderful video of a classic steam engine and boiler procedure! Only caution might be that there probably should have been a locomotive-style or screen type spark arrest on the smokestack of the boiler - given that the demonstration was in a wooded area...cheers, from Toronto

[@williamchrystal2828]

TIGHTEN THE BELT OR TAKE A PIECE OUT WILL MAKE FOR AN INCREASE IN WORK RATE AND LESSEN THE BELT SLIP. NOTE HOW THE SAW BLADE SPEED DROPS BECAUSE OF THE SLACK BELT.

[@jimc4731]

That's a real jewel you have there! JIM PS if you sharpen the saw it will cut better and be safer to use.

[@theAussieG]

The oilers looked empty. Should they be filled before running the engine to lubricate it?

[@davewilson1591]

Great video. Hypnotizing. At 18:24 is your fireman the boiler inspector? Ha that is so cool. Are you going to poor new Babbitt for those wayward pulleys? Thanks for sharing your work and ingenuity. Dave

[@pochosousa4653]

Gracias por mostrarnos como funcionan estas máquinas. Parte del mundo moderno fue hecho con máquinas como estas. En un futuro apocalíptico el mundo volverá a ellas (Ojalá nunca pase). Mis saludos desde España.

[@jaimeespinoza-tiomacje4142]

excelente video, pero para los que no conocen el uso de estos motores, su fuerza no viene de la velocidad, sino de la inercia, por eso JAMAS se pone la cinta de tracción en el volante de inercia, solo se debe poner en el eje plano que tiene al costado, ya que si lo pones en el volante pierdes un 60 y hasta un 70% de su fuerza, la prueba es que cortando un simple tronco ya se frenaba, en cambio si lo pone en el otro eje, gira mas lento pero con 4 a 6 veces mas fuerza, sin frenarse y compensado por el volante de inercia podría mover maquinarias mas grandes (yo use muchos meses en el sur uno de estos y solo con correas, daba poder motriz a 2 tornos de precisión enormes y 1 fragua al mismo tiempo), y el motor ni siquiera se frenaba.

[@Ironmanxp]

All very romantic, but if cutting wood is your goal, there are better ways.

[@mauser1018]

Terrorific blade design bro, terrible dangerous...

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

It demands great respect.

[@randolphtorres4172]

Steam has an awesome amount of power but only when you reave your belt correctly. You have the belt on the flywheel it should be on the drive wheel, sharpen your tools, more often. It will not stall if you set up the ratio properly.

[@ZainulAbidinDevelopers_hub]

No he placed the belt on right direction because high rpm for blade is needed for cutting operation if he place the belt on drive wheel then blade will rotate with low rpm with no optimum cuttings!

[@davida1hiwaaynet]

It sounds good to me, considering the worn main bearings and age. I really have enjoyed this video! Definitely understand your explanation of the loose governor pin. Even with modern electronic governors there is a parameter providing "tightness" to the calculation to prevent fluctuations as you saw!

[@franzotto448]

Den meisten Spass, macht das feuern des Kessels, dann kommt die Versorgung der Dampfmaschine und, naja als notwendiges Übel, die Arbeit an der Kreisäge, damit man wieder feuern kann. Ich liebe diese Maschinen. The most fun, makes the firing of the boiler, then comes the supply of the steam engine and, well as a necessary evil, the work on the Kreisäge, so you can fire again. I love these machines.

[@pistolpeds]

Sounds like the old blade needs a tad sharpening

[@mamdohhossam1702]

شكرا جزيلا من 🇪🇬

[@АНДРЕЙКУЗНЕЦОВ-ъ7м]

комментаторы из россии .для вас пишу -показ техники на принципе паровой двигатель-механизм .показывают во первых он выпущен 1904 году и 2 .он до сих пор работает.и на конец то третье он у частника в собственности .вопрос на засыпку всем тем из россии гениальным техникам .похвастайтесь хоть одним сохранённым паровозом .трактором или просто паровым двигателем который есть вот так в свободном доступе на который можно сводить ребёнка и наглядно ему всё это чудо техники показать .что вон оно как ......что не только в планшете можно сидеть....а!ну?а я погляжу что вы там можете сопоставить ....самое важное то!что у россиян нет всего этого .(всё на метал уже сдали )-но и чужое толи из зависти толи из глупости вы россияне обгаживаете---))))видимо у россиян натура такая ....вот русские люди это другое дело.даже на чужбине созидают и творят

[@repr26]

Route the engine exhaust into and up the boiler smoke stack. The discharge up the stack will help draft the fire box a stoke the fuel. And running you belt on the smaller diameter "belt drive wheel" will let the flywheel do its job and you wont experience as much speed loss when cutting. And your belt is really loose!

[@alanstant9356]

That's pretty cool to watch the starting on the engine. I enjoyed that very. Thats pretty much the same engine they used on the locomotives isn't it.

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

In a general sense it's the same as a steam locomotive. Typically they don't hav governors. The engineer/driver performs that function.

[@alanstant9356]

From what I knew, I never knew that. Thanks for sharing that with me.

[@philstercaddy8855]

Belt just a tad slack? Put some pine tar on that flywheel

[@michal_c9007]

I really have no idea why this was in my "recommended" but it seems rather interesting to watch btw the connecting belt seems like very dangerous thing if it slips out of these wheels

[@themadfarmer5207]

Nice rig... Saw not sharp. Or replace with insert tooth. correct me if I am wrong but suggest that the timber meeting saw at too high position. Really should not be so easily slowed /stalled. Belt too loose but might not be slipping though👍

[@charlesfaingnaert8249]

That is a great steam engine. I fully understand why you want to play with it. You are loosing a TON OF MECHANICAL POWER DUE TO BAD BEARINGS... If you keep running it. YOU WILL COMPLETELY DESTORY IT! I clench my teeth listing to her eat her self on every turn of the crank turns. Being the crank bearings are bad. I would be willing to bet the cylinder is also worn out and you are loosing a lot of mechanical work there as well. I truly hope your restore the engine. Thanks for sharing it with us...

[@TheGbab]

Fabulous! That saw scares me though. I'd do an upgrade on the work rest to preserve the fingers.

[@gsxrsquid]

do you used softened water in the boiler and do you use any kind of water treatment?

[@Mercmad]

Quite interesting to see the bearing shells bounce around like that ......

[@rogerdavies6226]

out here in the west, that much smoke would have two fire trucks on the way and a slurry plane on standby

[@aphexteknol]

I think it is really great to see that Brownell boiler in action, as it was made not far from where I live in Dayton Ohio. Hard to believe Dayton used to be such a center of heavy industry at one time, but it is true.

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

I like the Brownell boiler too since it an Ohio Standard boiler which it is built heaver than contemporary boilers. Most boilers this size, built for 100psi, would have a 1/4" shell. The shell on this one is close to 5/16"

[@이석화]

물을 끓여서 수증기로 터빈을 돌리는 원동기 잘 보았습니다..

[@plutonioable]

Fantastic machine.. what happens at 23:37? Oil in the water?

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

That is a device for feeding oil to the engine. It uses the weight of a column of water to displace oil and then, by the use of a needle valve, the feed rate is regulated. It is known as a hydrostatic lubricator.

[@plutonioable]

Thanks, very interesting!

[@oveterinaryTR]

Hi, I wonder how long is it work with fill water the boiler while feeding fire?

[@traktorworks3200]

Sharpen the saw all ready. Sharpen the saw all ready. Sharpen the saw all ready. Sharpen the saw all ready. :)

[@lexpee]

This steam engine is totally worn out, everywhere there is slack, to start on the head crankshaft. Those bearings are totally worn out. Fun hobby project for the winter.

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

Yes it would be but I have a few projects ahead of it.

[@daheick]

Very nice engine and boiler. I also have a steam plant similar to yours in my back yard. I also use it to cut fire wood. I also make home made ice cream with it.

[@manfromthemist1958]

should the belt not have a twist in it to maintain tension

[@FMHammyJ]

Sounds like the sawblade could use a sharpening......seems to be leaning a little heavy into that wood.....

[@наваливалюме-с3з]

Interesting machine

[@frankgaletzka8477]

Thank you for this wonderfull Video Yours Frank

[@SeattlePioneer]

I was waiting the whole video to hear the steam whistle!

[@raymondgarafano8604]

That whistle looks like it could be made by 'lunkheimer, as i have a large 3 chime from a steam loco, sounds good too.

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

It's a 5" Lunkenheimer.

[@rickautry2759]

I know, I'm in a completely different industry, but you've gotta have negative feedback to prevent oscillation, and keep the load line balanced right down the middle. An antique engine, or an antique amplifier, it's not really all that different in theory.

[@tomasinacovell4293]

Would I be correct to assume that this would be the equivalent power and size of a steam tractor?

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

It would be equivalent to a small one.

[@ryanomalley8201]

At 4:57 are you simply dumping any water that has condensed?

[@j-man6001]

Man I love these! A wonderful feat of engineering. Back when there was pride and craftsmanship. A true product that was meant to last. As opposed to the disposable garbage built today. Lets see any Wal-Mart junk last 100 years HAHA. I love seeing these old engines be them steam, or oil/gas/diesel fueled, still alive and kicking, and still being put to good work!

[@Rebel9668]

What a load of BS. That's like all those people that say how much better old cars were because after spending thousands of dollars on them they can be made to run and look new again, so somehow they must be better than a modern engine that can go for 300,000 miles without a major rebuild whereas those old engines were basically shot after 100,000 and needed a rebuild.

[@arunagnihutre7160]

Beautiful

[@enginebill]

You need to run the belt much tighter. The proper tension for a flat belt is 600 pounds of tension for every square inch of belt cross section. A good rule of thumb is to measure the belt length with a steel tape measure and then subtract 1/10" per foot of belt length. That will give you good tension.

[@bobkelly2447]

I hate to be negative ...BUT fix the bearings on the flywheel before you do irreparable harm to that lovely machine ! their pour in bearings and easy to do in an afternoon ! and Oil the slide ! fill those oilers ! the setup you have is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars but will be worthless scrap metal if you do not maintain it carefully ! that engine should not be ran till the bearings are fixed !....Period ! ...and sharpen the bloody saw too !.... I see no governor on that thing just an oiler.... don't run it faster than 250 RPM ...AFTER the bearings are fixed ! ..... beautiful setup I wish I had it ! way to go ! Bob.....

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

Though not obvious in the video, the bearings were never dry. Not long after this video was posted, the engine went back into storage.

[@marcosurra7203]

Usa la puleggia più piccola, aumenta i giri e la sega circolare non si inchioda, very good

[@КонстантинСоболев-д2э]

Я думаю всё заточено под бревна гораздо большего размера и длины , а иностранец пилит на кусочки "пятаки"! Леса то у них нет! Хотя и у нас, теперь, нет. Классная техника! А диск просится на подточить.

[@mimiporsche]

Wow was a wonderful movie with music and steam !!! of course it takes the license to turn on all the gimmick !!! congratulations to the driver were very interesting life minutes☺☺☺

[@АНДРЕЙКУЗНЕЦОВ-ъ7м]

молодцы что сохраняете то что во многих странах утерянно

[@neilmacleod5371]

In june - " hey Ma, I'll at the barn cutting cord of fire wood, should be back about September, have supper on for me "

[@mhector89]

I love old American steam from small to giant Awesome piece of history enjoy.

[@jordank.4606]

Nice piece of machinery! Its awesome

[@MrRobziee]

I wish I were your neighbor! Thanks so much.

[@speedstick77]

Have flywheels ever flown apart at high rpms?

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

Historically speaking, yes. If an engine governor failed, the flywheel could reach a rotating speed where the forces produced exceed the strength of the materials. Factories often purchased flywheel insurance to handle such a failure.

[@wacoflyer]

Loved this well produced video! Tell me, how much of the engine and boiler are original? A lot of the fittings don't look like they could be over 110 years old. And what is that other machine behind the saw do?

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

The boiler is from 1934. All of the fittings are period or as close to period appropriate as can be found today. The smoke stack and smoke hood are new as of 2015 and is ALL riveted following period practice. Look for a future video on the boiler. The engine is all original to me. See video #1 for the machine behind the engine.

[@hootche1]

The blade is painfull.

[@sinclairopaline]

The way it’s going is, saw a few pieces of wood, put them in the fire 🔥,adjust the engine, saw some more, elicit the help of an inspector,saw , drink ,eat ,stand and marvel in awe of the awsome set up. But there is no wood to sell to support the operation?🤑. So it’s a closed loop? I would not change a thing.

[@ShowCat1]

Outstanding video! Thanks! I do have to say though that wearing gloves around a saw blade is a really bad idea. If one tooth of the blade barely catches the leather it will pull you into the blade. Same with long sleeves, rings, necklaces, long hair or shirt tails. Be careful sir. I am now a sub.

[@BirdTho]

Don't they usually put the belt on the smaller wheel off to the side? But let me guess - you want more speed.