1909 S VDB Counterfeit! Lincoln Wheat Cent Penny ID Fakes

You need to know how to authentic 1909 S VDB Lincoln Cents before you buy them. You also need to know how much a 1909 S VDB penny is worth in all grades before you buy one. Just watch out for fakes, too good to be true deals and cleaned and damaged examples.
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[@kathrynmiddleton9250]

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[@CoinHELPu]

If everyone learns this about the 1909 S VDB Cent then they will never buy a fake again. Education is freedom. PLEASE SHARE!!!! 😀

[@georgematthews2877]

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[@lincolncentralcoins1452]

Thank you sir. I am blessed with two 1909s VDB both are real. This information will help a lot of people. Keep up the great work 💯👍

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you! I hope it will!

[@robertbarker2023]

I wish I saw this video earlier. I had a 1909 S V.D.B. Validated by PCGS and it was counterfeit. Lesson learned.

[@mikebarushok5361]

My dad bought a roll of 1909 S VDB cents at Marshall Fields in Chicago when he was discharged from the Marine Corps in 1953. They were in grades from VF to AU and the price was $50 (plus sales tax). Back when coins were sold in the toy department.

[@DrMatey215]

A "Daniel" Classic! One for the Internet archives!

[@2AEnthusiast]

Good video. The close-ups on the mint mark and VDB were helpful.

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you.

[@michaelc9507]

Thanks Dan for posting video about how to spot fakes

[@silversurfer1986]

Excellent video! The only thing I would add that helped me is the 4 different S mintmark locations. I was able to identify which type mine was. Mine is slabbed NGC VF 25BN. It is nice to also have a NGC grade photo to match the coin in hand to authenticate it. Anyhow, thanks for sharing!

[@CoinHELPu]

Yes, the four die pairs. I was trying to be simple but thanks!

[@themoneyman3766]

🤔 thanks, I'm learning a lot. Have a great weekend.👍.

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you! You have a good one as well.

[@ShikiSenriismine]

My grandfather and I collected wheat pennies, so wither any are fake or real doesn't matter to me. Any time i find one I feel like he's still here with me, but this is good info to have.

[@markdelaney1384]

Another very helpful video Daniel. And timely for me because I just bought one to complete my 1909 - 2009 set. I’m amazed that you find the time to record a video nearly every day. I think I speak for everyone when I say these are extremely helpful and interesting even if you don’t happen to collect the type of coin you’re discussing. All my best.

[@CoinHELPu]

Thanks Mark. I am getting faster. It's the editing that takes a while. I can record a video in less than 20 but take up to a couple hours to edit and release. Thanks for commenting and a pleasure!

[@justingadwaw9912]

Thank you for the video. I'm sure it will help alot of people. Have a great day and as always, Enjoy. J

[@jackvetra2844]

When I found a Lincoln cent that I thought was a mint error i found Coin Help U. I learned that my coin was a vice job but before I learned about the deception I really thought I might have a winner. But alas it was fake but i still have it in my not a real error collection 😂. Thank You for what you do on your channel it's a great service for newbies and pro's.

[@vyesitsme9203]

Thanks very important information!Have a great. Weekend you & family 🎈👍👍🎈🎈🎈🎈👍

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[@ECP]

Great Video... Very well explained... Keep up the Great Work.... Thanks Again for the Proof Sets yesterday....

[@CoinHELPu]

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[@goldscorpion8137]

Very good video Daniel thanks again

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you!

[@ShirlBussman]

I doubt that I will ever get one of these (real) ones. This was a really good video for those who buy on eBay and other sites. I myself have never bought coins on eBay and don't plan on doing so. Thanks for another great video and for sharing. All the best ~ Shirl

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you

[@ShirlBussman]

@@CoinHELPu You're very welcome. ☺

[@jonathancsmelko2361]

Thanks for sharing. I think I would buy a slabbed one.

[@allan4276]

Yes i got screwed on e-bay fighting now with seller wish me luck

[@lamairepr]

Great video and information, definitely helped me as it hopefully will others!

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you

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[@garykane7354]

That helped me a lot thanks

[@CoinHELPu]

You're welcome and thanks for watching!

[@robertbarker2023]

Most excellent! I can now validate mine.

[@marccrawford2764]

I actually own 2 of these. Both PCGS, one is a 62 RB and the other is a AU 58 RB. Good Info to know. Both are from my brothers collection.

[@richardbehappy5412]

Another awesome video.

[@alanhykes9544]

Thanks Daniel. Very informative

[@patrickcanonigo6307]

Thank you!

[@JOSEPH-qo7fr]

Great video

[@Meravista]

Late 70's for Christmas my dumb dad gave me the best gift of all: a true 1909 S VDB from a reputable dealer. It was years later as a young adult that I actually looked at the damn thing and saw that the 's' was mashed over a very obvious P underneath. You think you'd look for such a thing in this particular coin

[@CoinHELPu]

All die pairs are known, there's no such S over P, the coin is either fake or the mint mark is damaged.

[@rf-bh3fh]

BIG Difference between real wear and fake wear. Need to check both sides, need to see if there is unusual wear like similar dents , being put in a tumbler!! We wise crooks can be found everywhere.

[@CoinHELPu]

Yes and yes

[@johnconnersmithllc6095]

Thank you

[@DrMatey215]

I purchased a 09 S VDB on Ebay last year. Ungraded. When I got the coin I immediately sent it to ANACS for authentication. Came back as counterfeit. Forger added the S. The seller gave me a hard time about the return. I paid $1,700, it looked good and seller purported this was RED! I fell for his bag if wind. Turns out he got this coin on an online auction for $1,170 I purchased for $1,700. I got my money-back but it took about 8 business days.

[@jpsned]

I just realized something in watching this video--Brenner is the only U. S coin designer who put periods after his initials. Perhaps if he didn't include the periods and made his initials a wee bit smaller, people would have let him keep them there. 🙂

[@ttsuter87]

After watching your video....I have, wish careful examination, determinated that I was ripped off for $950 for a fake 1909-s V.D.B. coin....my heart hurts

[@CoinHELPu]

Sorry to hear.

[@harrybond1485]

That seems like an awfully low price for an AU example of an s-vdb. I cannot buy one of that grade for anywhere near as low a price as that.Anyway, thankyou for the video Daniel, have a nice day.

[@CoinHELPu]

The prices in this video are three years old.

[@harrybond1485]

@@CoinHELPu I missed that Daniel. My bad.

[@kabuti2839]

i have a fake, before i watched this video, i noticed it had a very different appearance in general, from my other vintage pennies but the bvd & mint mark are just exactly how you point out as forgeries. I wonder what my dad paid for it. He has some other obviously fake coins, now im wondering about the silver.

[@BlueWaterSTAX]

Great info. Thanks

[@jumemowery9434]

When you buy from a reputable dealer always double check the coins for yourself. Most dealers are pretty busy. Sometimes things slip by.

[@CoinHELPu]

Might be true for a small percentage but no way is a fake 1909 S VDB getting by me.

[@jumemowery9434]

Maybe not an S VDB, but I've seen (and I know you have too) some common date fakes. No dealer has the time to thoroughly check every coin that passes through their hands.

[@michaelhansen6977]

I bid on one of these that was super cheap just to see what the price went up too. The auction was canceled. I assumed it was fake, but with the canceled auction I wonder if it was real and nobody believed it so they wouldn't bid

[@jimw1274]

Love to see the same review of the 1916-d merc.

[@CoinHELPu]

It's coming. I have a few fake on the 16-D.

[@Christian-zx2ol]

Nice

[@mariacontreras-zb5gf]

Thanks i was looking for 1 is not real thanks for this info.👍

[@codyhahn2359]

Great video

[@skizzo84]

Thank you, really helpful

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you!

[@vonsboy]

The coin you displayed is on EBay at the moment but is an “s” and not vibe, am trying to find a reasonable s vdb as a one coin collection saw ads “Have you seen this coin?” On the backs of comics all through the 1960’s but never found one

[@JOSEPH-qo7fr]

Mine is real certified by PCGS xf45 with a lamentation error on the front

[@triunity686]

I have One 1909 penny that's barely legible on the year and has some gunk on the back but I can't tell if it's an S cause of the wear! It kills me not knowing lol

[@Moe-me4rz]

I have a 1909 vdb and 3 1920 s and a few more I'd like to show you and eventually sell

[@rf-bh3fh]

What are the real chances of finding a 1909 VDB s cent in a box 📦 from the bank. For sure if you find one in a box from the bank IT IS REAL. The best thing about searching boxes is it is much better than playing the Lotto.

[@CoinHELPu]

Very slim but doesn't mean it is real. Anyone can place a fake in circulation an it end up in a bank roll. You just need to know the difference.

[@rf-bh3fh]

CoinHELPu Agree however the why is so much more important than the what. Take note to make a fake takes a lot of effort time and money. If there is no profit there is no reason. Yes I need to know the difference. Yes others want to know how to tell. I am just a self taught novice, you make it your occupation. I learn from you because I seek more knowledge. Finding a rare coin in bank boxes are far more likely to be real.

[@ricktempleton3415]

I'd say zero but there's always a chance someone Is turning in an estate collection and they don't care about coins.

[@CoinHELPu]

@@rf-bh3fh A bank box is coins made up from coins people took to the bank so chances of finding a real 1909 S VBD are not going to be better. Bank boxes are not just sitting at the bank for decades. You're more likely to find and authentic 1969 S DDO than an 1909 S VDB.

[@tvtommm]

my 1909 vdb has no dots on VDB

[@vyesitsme9203]

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[@floydlovell9281]

Should a 1996 D Lincoln penny have a VDB on the bottom of his coat ,on the front of penny ?

[@CoinHELPu]

Yes, they all do starting in 1918.

[@mikepeters5016]

What if it says vdb and no s mint mark

[@CoinHELPu]

Then its a normal 1909 Philadelphia mint Lincoln Cent.

[@semperidem6589]

Im quite confident i have a 1909vdb ddo with possible ddr would you be interested in me sending you a picture?

[@Fishingduh]

Is it possible the “s” on the penny has Deteriorated? But you someone can still know if it’s authentic? I have one that you can barely see the “vdb” but it looks like the S is barely hanging on.

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[@xjackiex24]

How do I get a 1909 vdb s authenticated? If I send it off , will I get it back ? Been ripped off before by a local coin place.

[@CoinHELPu]

You send it to ANACS. Go to their website and call them.

[@markiswilliams5428]

How do I get a coins instead

[@jaredtomochak4946]

I was given one in my change today what do I need to do I came home and started searching it is it worth it too get it graded how could I just go get it sold

[@CoinHELPu]

Since it's not professionally authenticated you don't sell it, it's more than likely fake. You can buy fakes online easily.

[@Aguilar7131]

Hi, where i can sent photos of a 2019 shield penny to know if it's double die. Thank you

[@CoinHELPu]

These are really common but you can post it here coinauctionshelp.com/forum/index.php

[@bigboy8030]

What's the 1909 V D B worth without the S mint mark.

[@CoinHELPu]

It is worth a few dollars and up depending on the condition. coinauctionshelp.com/lincoln-cent-value-wheat/

[@LuisGuerra-kd9wh]

Hi my name is Luis I have a 1909 penny who can I talk to about them

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I have

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[@Izalith-Witch]

Mines real

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[@Jay34341]

I just got a philly 1909 vdb today, was hoping for the S though