1922 Holmes series 4, American air cooled car that you’ve never heard of

[@johnboydTx]

We've only just begun by the Carpenters

[@What.its.like.]

Yeah buddy congratulations you got =)

[@kennethanway7979]

Awesome song... carpenters were great... beautiful voices! 👍

[@johnboydTx]

@@kennethanway7979 agreed ✌️❤️

[@johnboydTx]

@@What.its.like. Thanks ✌️❤️

[@josephgaviota]

Karen had such a beautiful voice. Such a tragic story hers is.

[@jacksonn3882]

My father (ironically born in 1922) had a screw-type jack that he used his entire life wrenching on various cars. He told me it was from a Holmes car that my grandfather bought used and he often stated that there "are no known Holmes cars" [to survive]. That's why I was so excited to see you found one!!! Could this be the only survivor? Keep up the great videos!!!

[@What.its.like.]

I found another one I can’t wait to go do it but it’s not going to be until spring summer it might not even be until the fall time I’m not sure when I can get over there to do it it’s in Michigan

[@muckraker610]

Very attractive car, for the, time. It looks like it was carved out of a block of butter.. Smooth lines with great sheet metal flow. And talk about automotive inovations .. The clamshell Hood and the ceiling vent...Wow. I really enjoy when you drag these enigmatic marques out into the daylight, for us to enjoy.

[@What.its.like.]

I wish i could find more information on this car I love doing brands not often part of the conversation =)

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

What's amazing is every vehicle that wasn't a Model T Ford in 1920, looked exactly like that (with various different designs, colors, shaped sculpt, and size). Maybe you should study before getting ready to seperate this as an "ahead of its time" type appraisal when the average vehicle in 1920 was beautiful, not that cheap Ford shit_ that everyone gawks over today. Not to mention California tops, detachable hard tops, in built hard tops, custom phaeton covers, and limousine super structure builds.

[@AMCmachine]

The tales that Holmes could tell if only she could talk. Very interesting--so many early automakers that were part of the story of the American auto industry's formative era are all but forgotten now. Cars are cultural history as much as they are industrial or technological history. Every car is a window on the time that produced it, and every survivor preserves that time in a tangible form that we can look at, study, admire, touch, feel and experience. If we're lucky, we can even still use and enjoy them as originally intended.

[@What.its.like.]

Totally agree the plan is to cover at least one car from every American brand.. =)

[@kenpruvit1037]

"my foot fits on there with room to BOOT " ,good one jay

[@What.its.like.]

Haha yeah

[@josephgaviota]

Playing along at home, I went "Ta DUM dum" when he said that ;-)

[@DSP1968]

Wow, Jay! I've never even heard of one of these, and I found a lot of its features very interesting. And so much quality! Thank you for featuring it. I'll take the Holmes and the Franklin.

[@What.its.like.]

Glad you dig this one =)

[@kirstenspencer3630]

Neighbor has a 1932 Franklin complete. My dad had.a 1928 Franklin. He loved that car and how it rode and drove.

[@victorboucher675]

What a hot ride ... 115 in Scottsdale AZ and trying to drive that ... at that price. Thank you.

[@charlesdalton985]

Rare indeed! I don't think I've ever heard or read of this car. Incredible restoration and build quality. Thanks for the education. WYR: Packard (BIATP) and the Holmes because it's so innovative and attractive. ~ Chuck

[@What.its.like.]

Sweet choice happy to feature a car brand you’ve never heard of glad you dig this episode =)

[@middleclassretiree]

This is the first wyr that I honestly can’t decide because id be delighted to have any of them they all look like very well made cars

[@What.its.like.]

=)

[@joeseeking3572]

You got me Jay - yes, this IS one I've never heard of let alone seen. I had to look it up in a reference book, which I'm guessing is the same one you used - details strikingly similar, though you didn't slam the looks as much as they did :) They've got this one set up as a doctor's coupe - and why not, it doesn't need antifreeze, so in the winter 'it will always start' (well, maybe) WYR: 1) The Pierce Arrow - the 33 was much more powerful than the Packard 6. 2) Probably the Holmes, though as you mentioned, while the Franklin people could work on it, where would you find body/interior parts. Guess you beat panels and sew.

[@What.its.like.]

Glad you dig this episode, and awesome choices I wish I could have found out more about the company, the name of the Vice President who embezzled money

[@bobmccurdy8881]

Awesome car never heard of these cars Packard - Holmes.

[@What.its.like.]

I found another one to do so won’t be the last =)

[@ROXSTARCorvette4371]

Wow. I've never heard of this one. Nice work! It must have taken awhile to do the research on this car. Well done.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much happy you dig this episode

[@ROXSTARCorvette4371]

@@What.its.like. You're welcome!

[@1lovesgreatness]

Another great video, Holmes.

[@What.its.like.]

Glad you dig this video =)

[@edminas3159]

Thanks Jay, that was fascinating. Do you suppose that they used presses and dies to produce the body panels or did they employ panel beaters which shaped the body by hand. Low production levels make me wonder.

[@What.its.like.]

I’m not sure they might’ve used an English wheel.. beings they didn’t make that many and it had a high price tag.. I still can’t get over how little information is out there about that company I was trying to figure out what different body styles they produced I couldn’t get a direct answer for that..

[@geebs76]

I really enjoyed this video. What an interesting car! Are those wooden exterior door handles? It has so many cool features and I'd love to take that engine apart and see all of its design features. I love this car and would choose it in the second scenario, but I love the 1922 Packard Six even more in the first scenario.

[@What.its.like.]

Happy you dig this video I love featuring brands that may never been heard of.. The goal is to do at least one car from every car manufacturer especially American brands Great choices it’s hard to beat packard

[@don66hotrod94]

Another interesting orphan brand. Thanks!

[@What.its.like.]

=) glad you dig this one

[@Cbourbon454]

That knob on the left side of the dash that you said you didn't know what it might've been for.. I think it was a primer. Throttle it the center of the steering wheel. I do not know hardly anything about Holmes. So, those were two personal guesses. Another great video!

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome thank you so much for that information

[@kennethanway7979]

🎼🎶🎼🎼🎼 now that song is stuck in my head!

[@61rampy65]

Jay, I think that the button on the floor that you referred to was a horn button, and the throttle is on the steering column, just like a Model T. That was an expensive car when new, so it's no wonder they sold so few. Edit: OMG, that hood is so cool!!!!

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome thank you so much for that information

[@josephgaviota]

12:20 That whole engine is very interesting. I'm assuming those little "towers" above each cylinder are the valves, and I assume pushrods are coming up from somewhere inside ...

[@donalddesnoo5303]

Magnificent resto 🤐 guess you never leave without a passenger till the wiping is done 😮

[@bparksiii6171]

Looked in my Tad Burness car book it listed years 1920- 1923, for Holmes but years could be different from the book's info, also shows a Hertz car from the same year range produced by Mr Hertz when his car rental business started, neat if one of those still exist. Great find in the museum..First choice 1922 Pierce Arrow, second, 1922 DAC.

[@What.its.like.]

Yeah Production years were all over the place it’s also important to note there was two companies at least two companies by that name. Great choices

[@joeseeking3572]

That was the first book I looked at too - so someone else still has a copy :)

[@bparksiii6171]

@@joeseeking3572 Yea I own the giant car spotter guide, and the Tad Burness truck and bus guide since the 90's, they are my go to books on obsolete vehicles.

[@bparksiii6171]

@@joeseeking3572 Yea I own the giant car spotter guide, and the Tad Burness truck and bus guide since the 90's, they are my go to books on obsolete vehicles.

[@warrenjr527]

Jay, As alwsys I throughly enjoyed your video. Orphan or rare and defunct cars are my favorite and you cover them better than anyone. The Homes is interesting as I had never heard of it. That said please take what I am going to say as genuine, constructive criticism , not a complaint. One of the topics you promise to talk about is the " buttons ,switches. and knobs. However, it this video as well as others you say " I don't know know what this does". That is perfectly understandable on these rare old cars. They probably perform a function that is no longer needed, or is automated. Since i believe you have the owners permission to make the video of their car, might I humbly suggest that you might ask them what it does. Not only would we have our curiosity sated but you will sound even more knowledgeable. Thank you for all your hard work . I know it takes a lot of work to put together multiple videos per week. It isn't just point the camera and talk.

[@What.its.like.]

Haha yeah I’m generally really good at finding owners manuals that discuss with the button switches and knobs do some of the cars pre-World War II are hard to get information for World War I is a totally different subject for whatever reason there’s like an information barrier. Thank you so much it means the world that you gave me this construction criticism I really appreciate it sometimes when putting these episodes together I try to figure out a way in which to say I don’t know something but also know saying that isn’t the best approach so going forward I guess if I don’t know something I just won’t say it because some of these cars this car belongs to a museum, director was busy

[@DL24StaS]

If I am not wrong, this is an example of the so called "Four-Passenger Victoria Coupe" body style - a two-door body with three fixed seats and a collapsible jump seat in the front row. A very tall roof and an integrated ("bustle-back") trunk are also characteristic of this body style. It developed into the Club Sedan, a shorter version of a regular two-door sedan. Also, Ford used the name for its hardtops in 1950s. There's been an excellent topic on AACA about it.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome information I could find information on body styles that were offered all I could come up with was this model and four-door seven passenger tourer Thank you so much for sharing that information and insight

[@cartmanrlsusall]

Would like to see it parked next to a franklin they have a lot of similar features besides the engines

[@Frank-sf1wh]

Another good coverage Jay. I still prefer the Packard.

[@What.its.like.]

=) happy you dig this episode it’s hard to beat packard

[@jamesmcgowen1769]

Thanks Jay! Again another vehicle I never knew about If you asked me to name two air cooled engine manufacturers, I ‘d offer Indian and Harley… Such a handsome car also, lovely clean lines. One thing I didn’t hear you mention, is it 2 stroke, or 4 stroke? What a beautiful car!!

[@What.its.like.]

I think it’s a 4 stroke engine the plan is to cover at least one car from every manufacture I love doing the off the beaten path cars from brands that don’t exist anymore

[@josephgaviota]

3:57 _... double elliptical leaf springs in the front ..._ Leaf springs, double leaf springs, torsion bars, coil springs ... I wonder if it'd be interesting to do a dive on various ways, pros and cons, of springing automobiles through the years, or would it just be boring ...

[@What.its.like.]

I’ve rode in one car that had double elliptical leaf springs and it was bouncy

[@seed_drill7135]

Pierce Arrow among the first lot, but of the three air cooled, I like the Holmes.

[@What.its.like.]

Sweet =)

[@JefferyHall-ct2tr]

Hi Jay!: I think you are right no one has heard of this, but. . .somehow I think I have seen one somewhere! There is another museum in Canton, maybe it was there. The name caught me! It is somewhere in my FOGGY memory banks! Anyway, a VERY interesting litlle coupe! Everyone comfortable but the front seat passenger!!! The engine is VERY interesting! Franklins had a big fan at the front at that time, but the Holmes seems to have something different! Maybe at the back? Pulling air from front to back? VERY interesting! That Detroit air cooled is definitely one I've heard of, either. Knox was famous for its "waterless" air cooled cars during the brass era. WYR#1 Going to be Packard! #2 I WILL take the Holmes as I like that coupe body style too much!!

[@What.its.like.]

I’ll have to see what the other museum in canton is everybody’s been telling me that I need to go to the Crawford museum I’m not entirely sure where that’s at I think it’s in Cleveland maybe not sure could be wrong Great choices =)

[@hcombs0104]

I guess I would go with the Packard and the Franklin if I had to narrow it down. If it's seven feet tall, that might rule out parking it in a conventional car port. But I like how that front hood opens! It probably made it easier to work on the engine.

[@VintageCarHistory]

WYR- First one, the Packard. I just don't like the PA headlights. For the second, I'll take the Holmes. Great video! We got lots of cars in Canton! Did Howard do the restoration on that car? He did the Moon and his work is quite crisp.

[@What.its.like.]

Great choices idk if Howard did this one I’ll have to ask him the next time I see him

[@61rampy65]

If anyone out there has, or has access to, there is a book titled "The Complete Encyclopedia of Motorcars 1899 to Present" by G. N Georgano. It was published in 1968 (I think). There is ONE paragraph about the Holmes, including a photo of a 1918 Holmes, which can only be described as Phuggly. Other than saying it was a bit more expensive than a Franklin, and that the company went from 1918 to 1923, there was no further info. The car you looked at was *much* better looking than the 1918 model.

[@What.its.like.]

Going to do another Holmes this year and the guy has more information than I had access to the first time can’t wait =) should be spring/summer

[@kennethanway7979]

Never heard of that one....and I'm old!

[@What.its.like.]

I just found out about it a few weeks ago

[@kennethanway7979]

@@What.its.like. fair enough!

[@warrenjr527]

Interesting video about a car I never heard of. WYR 22 Packard, 22 Homes just because it's different. I would have to sneak in a fuel gage somewhere , not knowing if I need gas would drive me nuts. Also any plans to feature the Detroit Air Cooled car? I never heard of that either. I learn a lot from your channel.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome choices I have to apologize. I came down with a sickness whenever I was south and I haven’t been able to post anything because my voice has been all screwed up. I’m going to try to post an episode tonight but I don’t know. I want to cover at least one car from every American automobile manufacturer. Also want to cover all of the companies that went under might do a series eventually car companies in different states. I’m from Pennsylvania. There was at least five companies that produced cars here. .. but they fizzled out long ago Pullman was made in pa I’m really hoping to cover at least one more early electric car before the years over. I went to the Greenfield Village last year and they had a Melbourne. I would love to cover that that was an exquisite electric car.

[@androidtexts6948]

Headlight glass is neat

[@lizshoemaker6569]

You said it’s almost like the cylinders are cast separately, they are completely separate and the four bolts at top release them

[@johnboydTx]

First three i could never pick one 😉🤷 DAC ive never seen 🤔 but It looks good 👍 .. Franklin engine Franklin suspension setup Franklin used a drop axle 🤔❓ I'd love to compare brakes and bearings with a Franklin 😊.. Put a truck bed on it and you'd have a modern X-tra cab 😂 .. Great Episode 👍 Happy Motoring ✌️🤠

[@What.its.like.]

Glad you dig this episode that DAC they were only in Business from 1922 to 1923 Has to be a super rare car might not even exist anymore.. I would love to find one I wonder if they use Franklins engine as well might have to do an episode on air cooled cars made in America.. I’ve been tossing around the idea of making an episode discussing all of the different manufacturers and break it down by state

[@johnboydTx]

@@What.its.like. Interesting 🤔 I don't know how much information would be available??? Would make a great project or challenge 👍😉.. Enjoy your adventures ✌️🤠

[@P_RO_]

A bunch of small carmakers came and went in the early days, and several of them are known only through ads found in newspaper archives. Most really had nothing worthwhile to offer and cheaper/ better competition cut them down quickly, but some hung on long enough to be noted. It's elementary economics my dear Watson (I just HAD to do that, sorry 🙃). Yet this one seems as if perhaps they should have done better, especially using the renowned Franklin engine and the apparent build quality of this example. Even the styling is good here. The height could have been an issue as most cars were stored in carriage houses with doors about that same height. It's clearly aimed toward those with hired drivers not needing to transport friends or family too; not uncommon then but excluding a large market section due to that. I do like it but who wouldn't want a Pierce Arrow back then? It does top the others in the second WYR for me though. I like the time-related ads you clip in Jay. A suggestion if you can find one, but maybe cover the "Reddy Kilowatt", one of the first attempts at a modern EV with very few examples left 😁

[@What.its.like.]

I’ll see what I can come up with I try and get product/event ads from that year at the end because it helps set the time and stuff associated with that time, ads show a lot hair styles, clothing choices =D how brand logos changed I love watercolor ads from 1930-1960ish I guess they had good mustang ads through the 60s I wasn’t a fan of the deep high contrast with tons of grain.. Great choices =)

[@terribelbliss9646]

I’ll take the Pierce Arrow and the Franklin. Thanks👍😉

[@What.its.like.]

Sweet choices =)

[@kenpruvit1037]

we've only just begun the carpenters

[@kenpruvit1037]

that was to easy

[@kenpruvit1037]

interesting intake manifold it looks like seam welded formed sheet metal ,unless thats could be a heat shield

[@What.its.like.]

Totally agree

[@wanderinggentile]

I just want to know how you have a funcional temperature gauge on an air cooled car.

[@What.its.like.]

Hahaha yeah great catch Clearly that was muscle memory most of the cars that we do a feature on the channel are water cooled that was a big blunder

[@farcohollis1369]

It’s a head temperature gauge. Air cooled cars measure head temperatures.

[@wanderinggentile]

@@farcohollis1369 That makes sense. I've seen those on early Corvair Monzas.

[@farcohollis1369]

@@wanderinggentile …..and many VW Beetles!

[@Kagaines]

I wonder if that first thing on the dash is a light?

[@What.its.like.]

I’m not sure it was very disappointing I wasn’t able to find a dash map or an owners manual for this car

[@winstonelston5743]

WYR1: Packard or Pierce. Heck, power to weight I'd take a Model T over the Holmes, and seventeen tears later add Crosley to the better choices. WYR2: Franklin over the air-cooled alternatives, but I'd go for almost any liquid-cooled alternative in the price range.

[@larryalexander4833]

Cool car and info . 🛠️🔧Good Sunday afternoon to everyone. Remember everyone as we go into this new year. With uncertain times and through the Good and the bad times. Have faith and look to Jesus Christ he is the answer through it all . ✝️🙏👍

[@aaronwilliams6989]

The Packard and Pierce.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome choices =)

[@askcgr]

we've only just begun

[@What.its.like.]

=)

[@retrobilly1719]

I Guess the Pierce Arrow ,Hard to imagine driving these Cars ,But they were top technology then,DAC,Just pray none of them breakdown as getting the parts would be a Nightmare

[@What.its.like.]

Totally agree

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

You're thinking with the mindset of a cheap Ford.

[@rdmineer1]

Wicker tool box. Floor button is the starter, lever is the throttle. Vacuum spark advance is developed by this time. A chauffeur driven car, but embarrassing at these prices. Real money went for the three P's or Duesenberg. Caviar was very expensive, so serving it also reflected financial status. Social status was everything in those days. Credit was hard to get, so wasn't so easy to fake it.

[@stanleycostello9610]

Since the Holmes was so costly, I think that the owners would have a chauffeur. As far as the tall roofline goes, I don't know if gentlemen wore their top hats in the car or not. If they did, it one can understand why.

[@dehoedisc7247]

Parking brakes are sometimes mistaken for so-called "emergency" brakes ( they don't exist) and you got it partly right by calling it the hand brake.

[@What.its.like.]

The reason I call it emergency brake is because if your brakes go out that is your backup breaks use in emergency.. finding out called different names depending on where your located dash is also called binnacle in areas

[@dehoedisc7247]

@@What.its.like. Yes, that is obvious by the use of the term "emergency" by people who are in error as to braking systems and a bit slack-jawed as to safety concerns. It is a term NEVER used by any reputable automotive source, since it suggests an actual use in an emergency which would likely result in false reliance on a marginal PARKING brake.

[@What.its.like.]

It’s both.. some use as parking brake others use it for emergencies and calling it that.. idk I’m in Pennsylvania we have weird names for everything.. drivers ed thought me to call that the emergency brake.. more than one name for something

[@dehoedisc7247]

@@What.its.like. Nonsense. Some folklore reference to "emergency" brakes is not a good reason to postpone the regular service brakes maintenance. It's not a Word Game as you suggest Your "Last Chance" Handle wont do the job.

[@What.its.like.]

Seems petty to get upset with the way people say things.. you’ve inspired me to do an episode about it one day www.wagnerbrake.com/technical/parts-matter/automotive-repair-and-maintenance/all-about-your-emergency-brake.html According to this site it has many names but it calls it an emergency brake.. like I said there are multiple names for different things like toilet has many names like commode, throne, can, John, loo honestly it’s a great conundrum of the English language a language in which we have multiple words to describe the same thing.. potato patato same thing

[@kennethanway7979]

What was the torque?

[@What.its.like.]

Not sure I didn’t calculate that one sometimes I do but for whatever reason the formula that I use versus the formula that manufactures use isn’t the same formula

[@kennethanway7979]

@@What.its.like. maybe 110ft lbs.?

[@ColtonRMagby]

WYR: All of them. I don't need to see what they are to want to drive them at least once.

[@What.its.like.]

Haha nice =)

[@rdmineer1]

Temptation Eyes - The Grass Roots

[@What.its.like.]

At the very end yes I love that song

[@jeffreykurth2703]

Johnboy was close. We've only just begun by the Carpenters.

[@What.its.like.]

John boy got it

[@edminas3159]

1922 Pierce Arrow, 1922 Franklin

[@What.its.like.]

Sweet choices

[@billolsen4360]

WYR 1. Pierce Arrow 2. Franklin!

[@What.its.like.]

Sweet choices

[@tedecker]

Wait… did I hear Jay say coolant temperature gage?

[@What.its.like.]

Yeah that was a mistake haha

[@josephgaviota]

4:15 _... no motometer or mascot here ..._ Since the original reason was to see the temperature of the radiator, and if it's air-cooled, no radiator, hence no motometer?

[@What.its.like.]

Very true but there could still be a mascot right..

[@1lovesgreatness]

Hexagon shaped headlights. 3:33

[@stephenholland5930]

Or even octagonal.

[@smartysmarty1714]

The original Holmes automobile was designed and built by a man they nicknamed "Long John", for whatever reason.

[@What.its.like.]

Haha yeah when researching saw there was more than one Holmes.. The Internet only knows Sherlock Holmes, I was bummed I couldn’t find information on this car

[@queensapphire7717]

Surprised there is no fan in there, especially for an air cooled motor.

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

That is a very sweet looking front end! Wow! $85,770.86 today is equal to buying a fully loaded 2023 GMC truck - that car was designed for the wealthy. LOL! Same "Bash your head in" type of hood concept like on the 1970 Oldsmobile. Really different type of engine block. Scenario 1 - Packard. At least you could still get parts going into the 1950's. Scenario 2 - Franklin. Love the windshield.

[@What.its.like.]

Great choices =) It’s crazy how much this car cost when new but if you think about all the features it has for the time period built-in trunk heater air cooled engine for instrumentation on dash as well as clock dome light privacy shades.. what looked to be a moon roof in the back..

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

@@What.its.like. Oh yes, Well worth the value. I'll have to look at one of your Duesenburg videos to see the price on those in comparison.

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

@@What.its.like. You know, that might be an idea....add in a current car at the same price value to choose from in your "Would you rather?" section of the video. Example "Would you rather buy a 1922 Holmes, a 1922 Packard, or a fully loaded 2023 GMC Tundra for the same modern market price of the 1922 Holmes?"

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

​@@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage Average good vehicles for the enclosed sedan body are marketed around $2000-$5000, the 1917 Dorris enclosed, was $10,500. Peerless got up to $23,000 in 1912. A big vehicle obsession was the huge enclosed sedans from 1915, two tone roofs, embellishments, huge wheels, and a extremely luxurious comfortable interior.

[@MonsterHobbiesModelCarGarage]

@@WitchKing-Of-Angmar For sure. Some of those years of cars were so huge that they dwarf the driver and passengers in comparison. Look at the Thomas Flyer touring cars.

[@winstonelston5743]

9:47 Temperature, for sure, but it's air-cooled.

[@JamesAllmond]

32 HP is not to impressive, but the calculated Torque is about 105 ft-lbs...that is...for the day. Pierce Arrow Franklin

[@What.its.like.]

Great choices awesome information and insight =)

[@jamesgudgeon4868]

jay I think that There Was Another Air Cooled car Called A Fox? 17:37

[@What.its.like.]

I’m not sure I’m just learning about all the air cooled cars that were made in America I didn’t know about holmes until a couple weeks ago..

[@cadillacdebois]

Packard, then Franklin.

[@What.its.like.]

Sweet choices =)

[@androidtexts6948]

I'd take the peirce arrow

[@What.its.like.]

Sweet choice =)

[@biggerock]

Why does an air-cooled engine have a coolant temperature guage?

[@stephenholland5930]

Cylinder head temperature.

[@What.its.like.]

Haha yeah that was a mistake big blunder

[@charleshunziker7416]

Chevy also built unsuccessfully an air cooled in 1923

[@What.its.like.]

I just watched an episode on that today that is a car that I am definitely going to try to do this year

[@JohnCBurzynski]

I'll take the 60 Impala.

[@What.its.like.]

Hahaha nice

[@markchandler1130]

Pierce Franklin

[@What.its.like.]

Sweet choices =)

[@aaronwilliams6989]

That is one weird ass car!

[@glennjones6574]

Wtf

[@What.its.like.]

???