1923 Ford vs 2023 Tesla

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[@MrAPCProductions]

The biggest factor for the Model T in 1923 was the cost. Brand new a T could be bought for $280, roughly $4,500 for today. Making it cheaper than the 1920s tractor options. It mobilized all but the poorest communities in the states and lead to our complete and total production dominance that led the population and wealth explosions of the 30s-40s-50s.

[@maxscott3349]

I would buy a $4500 car today

[@635574]

Cost, speed and volume of production at the same time. It wasn't a car revolution. It was a Model T revolution.

[@bigmike4923]

And now the average car sold is 10x that price🤣

[@Mladjasmilic]

Yugo used to cost 3990 in 1990, and its 4 door version (Zastava 101) sold in 2007 for 4300€. Today it is almost impossible to find cheap new car, all try to go upmarket.

[@crackedemerald4930]

@@bigmike4923 and probably wont decapitate you if a big enough rock flies on your windshield

[@JaronLindow]

The Model T transmission is essentially a manually operated automatic transmission.

[@trey1531]

Thinking the same thing!

[@boingkster]

I believe they used to call such a system a 'turbo clutch' in that it was a manual clutch which used an automatic gear system and valve body. Nowdays people would call you insane but I'm pretty sure it was from a time when automatics were less well understood/supported and may also have been loopholed into racing classes.

[@mrspandel5737]

@@boingkster Where I work in truck mechanic circles a turbo clutch is known as the exact opposite, a conventional manual transmission that exchanges the classic friction clutch for a torque converter coupling. Usually used for extreme heavy duty applications where there would be excessive wear on a clutch.

[@Hawk7886]

More like a glorified tractor

[@hondaguy9153]

A Honda automatic transmission is essentially an automatic shifted manual transmission. 😂

[@e_filippo]

"if someone pulls out in front of you, you are going to die" got me so good

[@mikealbrecht3990]

Even top speed of 35 won't help when you are jettisoned through the plate glass.

[@hackman669]

Seat belts children!🦌

[@TIMEtoRIDE900]

@@mikealbrecht3990 They had laminated safety glass - it fogs yellow. Mandatory by 1910 or so.

[@Trininja11_LEGO]

😂

[@h069401]

The Model T finished the 1/4 mile one hundred years ago, giving it a time credit that only a DeLorean could catch. I still love your work

[@Deontjie]

Make sense....

[@fritsmolenaar05]

By this measuring a Pontiac Aztek would be faster than an sf90 😂

[@ContentWizard]

LOL!!

[@3nd04]

By this logic, a horse... no, walking is the best vehicle!

[@BappadityaNath]

@@3nd04 so basically a human

[@vintyprod]

the differential mechanism is a stroke of engineering genius. the fact that it basically hasn't changed at all is so insane

[@sneaky_krait7271]

Same for the basics for the electric motor actually

[@vintyprod]

@@sneaky_krait7271 electric machinery evolves all the time

[@sneaky_krait7271]

@@vintyprod Makes it all the more impressive that the AC electric motor still uses same basics

[@sepg5084]

The wheel is an engineering genius. There was no need to reinvent it so it stayed the same.

[@Yomotomen]

@@sepg5084 uh, the ford had the rim built in with the tire, with another wooden wheel staying on the car, I get your point, but it did change, also, not a big one but we did go brushless at some point.

[@hopingforthebest1.9]

I would definitely be interested in another video in 100 years comparing the 2 again 😁

[@dougerrohmer]

There's gotta be 3rd one added, the one running on 4 hoverboards. I can't wait to see that video!

[@lordbungle6235]

I bet the Model T would still be running 🤣

[@snapon666]

the REAL question is there are a pile of model T's running around 100 yrs later ...how many 23 tesla y's will survive and be drivable in 100 yrs

[@dougerrohmer]

@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket Well, the way I see it is that somebody is gonna have a "Oh my goodness!" moment in his bathtub one day and run naked through the streets loudly proclaiming that he has decoded gravity, but since he is gonna be doing it in some foreign language (Serbian, oerhaps, to honour Mr. T?) nobody is gonna know wot's wot. But after the immediate neighbourhood chaos is cleared up, our boy is gonna install an experimental gravity switch in his mom's basement (yeah, he lives there...) and flick it on and negate the gravity on the entire block and lift it all up to 10 000 ft. Of course, mom's basement has no windows, so it will only be when our man goes to the bathroom to get some aspirin to mitigate his altitude induced headache that he will distractedly peer out the window and realise what he has done. Not being a very street smart fella, he'll run downstairs and flick his switch to the "off" position, thus earning himself the lowest part in a very deep crater when the entire block lands at Vmax and flattens him as well as everything and everybody in it. Future forensics will be a most advanced thing, and soon they will know what Basement Boy has done, and the Mark II gravity switch will actually be a potentiometer with a radar altitude stabilisation system. And from there, modular hoverboards were developed which were used in many different areas from piano moving to cars.

[@pablopicaro7649]

@@snapon666 No 2023 Y will be operational in 100 yrs, EXCEPT the ones peopl engine swap like rich rebuilds.

[@michaelthomas7898]

The price point of both vehicles would have been interesting, I believe the model T was the only vehicle that got cheaper as it went along.

[@ZoeylaRose]

quick google search says the Model T started at a price of 21,940 Dollars Today money and got lowerd to 9,550 of today money

[@allareasindex7984]

As the volume increased the cost of building the T fell, and Henry Ford lowered the price over and over again. Other manufacturers tried to stop him legally and claimed his tactics were communist or socialist or whatever. Really freaked them out. One year Ford promised if they sold a certain number of cars every buyer would get some money back! Indeed it happened. Also Ford was having trouble finding enough workers, and trouble holding onto the workers they had. The average factory pay around a Detroit was already high, about $2.50 a day. Ford announced he would pay $5.00 a day and people working at the other car companies simply walked off their jobs and formed a huge crowd outside the Ford plant. Oh boy the other car companies didn’t like that either. On the other hand, Ford had a private “security department” headed by an honest-to-god mobster whose job was to stop workers from demanding decent conditions (like bathroom breaks. Sound familiar?). His henchmen beat people with baseball bats to maintain control. It culminated in “The Battle of the Overpass” where Ford’s goons actually shot and killed workers and claimed it was in self-defense. So it wasn’t all lollipops and rainbows.

[@lasskinn474]

@@ZoeylaRose it started at more than average houshold income or around like that.

[@Supreme_Lobster]

The price of the Y will come down and they are already planning a higher volume lower priced vehicle. This year the Y already had price cuts worldwide

[@michaelthomas7898]

@@Supreme_Lobster Don't see it happening.

[@piccalillipit9211]

*DEEPLY APPRECIATED* the "self driving is only a year away" joke

[@aquaseafoamcrayon1739]

By next year, guaranteed! lmao

[@fedyx1544]

"Lidar is useless" -Elongated Musket

[@tunahxushi4669]

yes, we fell for it too...

[@user2C47]

Should probably be good enough by the end of the decade. V11 is coming this year and should be a major improvement.

[@aquaseafoamcrayon1739]

@@user2C47 Yeah right, and Cybertruck will release early 2021, guaranteed!

[@coltonmcrae5873]

I love that while Matt has a fondness for a lot of Tesla's advancements and technology, he's not afraid to take the piss out of them when appropriate.

[@Stu_2112]

I'm the same. Worked for Tesla for over 14 years and was Tesla through and through......now I've left I am such a critic of them 😂

[@sebastianorye2702]

@@Stu_2112 How come, and when did you join?

[@sebastianorye2702]

@@J.PC.Designs Incase you're not kidding, how so? Tesla not only single handily kicked off the BEV revolution, which now accounts for 10% of global sales, yes global (excluding PHEV and HEV). They also added software and hardware to an industry with none of it. While they were at it, they created the most efficient car, safest car, car with best software and hardware capabilities, cars with the best performance for the bucks, and all while making them better for the environment. But most of all, what they did, which far too few know about, is that they revolutionised manufacturing. If you don't know what I'm talking about, just look it up, as it don't have time to explain ti all to you. But some of their biggest innovations stem from the "best part is no part" philosophy elon has. Plus, the giga press.

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

@@J.PC.Designs haha, everything performs well until it's going more than 30-35 miles per hour in the testing facility. I saw a Tesla that went 60 mph and it was cut in half in the crash. The entire body was ripped apart.

[@Perroden]

@@sebastianorye2702 lol it's far from efficient or safe. Tesla is neat but it has tons and tons of issues.

[@Chiaroscuro1991]

I really enjoyed this video. Sold my Toyota years ago in lieu of a 1923 model T Ford runabout as a daily driver, putting around 100 miles a week on it. Two points: your friends model T is not maintained well if it can only muster 35 mph and the poor acceleration is also a function of it not adjusted correctly. From the factory they could top out at 45 mph though few ever had the opportunity to prove that on unpaved roads. I regularly drive mine in the 40-45 mph range and have had it up to 55, though must to see where the top end would be. Also you didn’t bring up parts a availability or potential for consumer to maintain or fix the two cars. Parts for the model T are plentiful, both in new, new old stock and good used parts. The owners manual for a model T is designed for the owner to do their own adjustments and many T owners did their own major repairs.

[@GloomGaiGar]

As a daily? jesus some people are just built different.

[@vulture4117]

lmao forget about trying to repair a Tesla any more than you can repair Apple products

[@alsavage1]

55 MPH? In a T? I've driven two Model As and they were really happiest at 45 and below. They'd do 55, but really weren't happy at those speeds. At least the Model A had 4-wheel (mechanically-actuated) brakes.

[@joelashdod7712]

Yes, it goes 55, but how in the world do you stop it?

[@Jerod_Helt]

This is such an amazing video! It was also a lot of fun to race my Model T against the Model Y. Good stuff!

[@basedmax9029]

I bet if there were to be a third racer, it would be a mobility scooter. It might win.

[@Jerod_Helt]

@@basedmax9029 there’s a very good chance that a mobility scooter would beat the Model T.

[@hav5n]

Am i imagining it or is the frequency of the videos increasing

[@raw_000]

Three videos in less than 2 weeks, glorious times indeed.

[@DIY-V12]

Fascinating engineering insight into the Model T. So many advances in 100 years but amazing how some old ideas are better for the driver.

[@DrewLSsix]

No, you are taking the wrong lesson away from this. There's nothing about the T that's better for the driver.

[@kenrickman6697]

@@DrewLSsixI disagree. The touch screen control in the Tesla is a classic example of a developer confusing flashy and convenient to design with actually being superior for the user. For some things, yea it’s useful. For others, like the ability to control the climate controls or radio without taking my eyes off the road, an old school physical control is better. I agree with Matt giving Ford the point here.

[@brunoheggli2888]

The modell T dose 95% of the most importend things a car has to do!The Tesla isnt that big of a improvment!

[@yannlavoie]

Yes, no touch screen.

[@DIY-V12]

@@DrewLSsixsome vehicles make us no more than steering wheel attendants, and even that point is under threat. I am an engineer who really enjoys interacting with the vehicle I am driving, and interaction and awareness of the mechanical systems moving me down the road is a big part of my enjoyment from driving. So much so that I am building a 540hp na 7L V12 McLaren F1 replica that uses 2 Honda V6's (build log is on Pistonheads). I understand things have moved on as far as safety but engagement with the driving experience is something the T has in abundance.

[@23rdpotusbenjaminharrison3]

100 years and we've only gone up 5 more letters? Damn, car design takes forever.

[@StyxHackshop]

Awesome video. I have a Model T - no restoration, but one I built completely from junkyard piles across my state in Australia - and every one of your sentiments ring so very true. Love it.

[@DanTDMJace]

you built one from literal junk. that's hella recycling

[@drewwollin3462]

I am a retired R&D engineer not doing well. Your videos bring joy to my life.

[@sneaky_krait7271]

What kind of engineering did you do?

[@NeetoryuKunRHMN]

@@sneaky_krait7271 the kind he cant talk about

[@shootinbruin3614]

Hope you do better soon Drew

[@nahometesfay1112]

Oh I just started!

[@danharold3087]

@@nahometesfay1112 Welcome to the shark pool.

[@Jonathan_Doe_]

That Model T window mechanism is amazing!

[@TassieLorenzo]

Why is it so overengineered compared to the rear window mechanism ?! 😮

[@Freight_Train]

Ford has a reputation for quality for 100 years. ? I remember in the 70s when FORD stood for Found On Road Dead. Also known as Fix Or Replace Daily. My wife and I love the Fords we drive now. Just saying.

[@LQhristian]

Brilliant comparison, Matt!! I often wondered what would have happened if GM continued to develop the EV1 long enough to incorporate the LiON battery??

[@danharold3087]

GM's trouble has little to do with electric cars. They are in the same state as they were in when Japan ate their lunch. Too fat at the top. R&D is too fossilized as in not light on their feet. GM's problems are not because of EVs. They are too deep in for EVs to save them.

[@ouch1011]

My family has collectively owned 3 Teslas. 2 2021 Model 3s and 1 2022. All of them had build quality issues on delivery, although I will say the 2022 is the best out of the 3. It’s still the best overall EV available at the moment, mainly because nobody has caught up with their combination of tech, performance and efficiency. They really need to step up the game with their build quality though, since they’re no longer innovating like they used to. I still prefer to drive my Ioniq5 though, because even though it is less efficient, the in car tech is not as good as the Tesla and it can’t use the supercharger network (yet), it’s way more comfortable, much quieter and has actual buttons on the dash.

[@andgate2000]

All hail the button.

[@sierraspecialtyauto7049]

That was great fun. BTW, that steering wheel is a period-correct aftermarket product often referred to as a "Fat Man" wheel. I have one of a slightly different design on my '22 T Speedster. The original wheel was bolted on in the usual manner.

[@silvertbird1]

Thanks for that info, I was wondering. Have seen a few model T videos and thought the wheel looked different than what I remembered seeing in other cars.

[@cpufreak101]

1922 original or a 2022 replica? gotta love how 100 years makes dates a problem.

[@joeway8641]

@@cpufreak101 Heh...you're right. My speedster is a 1922, built by my dad in the early '60s (1960s😁) as the car he wanted when he was 16.

[@cpufreak101]

@@joeway8641 to think it was nearly as old back then as my car is now, regardless that's awesome!

[@d00dEEE]

I like that Ford was so in tune with safety issues that when they designed the Model A they consolidated the fire with the firewall by making the front cowl the fuel tank.

[@ryanhebron4287]

They actually went to integrated cowl tanks in the last two years of the model T (1926 and 1927).

[@mrspandel5737]

I believe that the Model A was also the first car to use bonded Safety glass, so there is that.

[@Persac7]

What the fuck are you talking about

[@alsavage1]

I think (but do not know) that when the fuel level on the Model T got low, and one encountered a long, steep up-hill, one was forced to drive it in reverse, as the gravity-fed fuel system would not flow fuel to the carb from the under-seat tank. That's the problem that the cowl-mounted tank solved, by raising the tank higher.

[@bladder1010]

I don't think any Tesla will ever last as long as a Model T.

[@aquaseafoamcrayon1739]

I have pants that will out last a Tesla!

[@markpitts5194]

The one in orbit round the sun will probably last quite well.

[@dathat555]

@@markpitts5194 - For sure. But whoa! The mileage.

[@kevinragsdale6256]

@@markpitts5194 the radiation has probably already killed it form working again, if they got it back that is.

[@Phoen1x883]

Basically nothing made today will outlast a Model T. Simplicity is durability, but simplicity isn't safe enough.

[@martinpik1]

The thing is the Model T will probably survive another 100 years but the model y will be scrap in 10yrs

[@whochecksthis]

I had a 36 model A and I always thought the 24” wheels were neat compared to the 14 and 15” wheels of the time… nowadays, 24” wheels aren’t far from standard anymore. Also, liked the push button starting of the early Ford… something that started reappearing in modern cars.

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

Yes, larger tire walls back then except for the ford exception. That Novel-T was all sorts of cracked up. Every vehicle at the time had something going for them, the model T was just overproduced. That was its charm...or the black paint during 1913-1924.

[@eslmatt811]

I was at a friend's house around a holiday. A guy pulled up to his neighbors's house in a model T. I asked him if I could ask some questions. His response was great. "I never take it out when I am in a hurry, it's not fast and people always ask about it" He then talked about it for almost an hour, gave a few rides.

[@Chris-ut6eq]

Came for the sarcasm, stayed for the history. (and the sarcasm)

[@hem1kat]

I own a Tesla Model 3 and a 1926 Studebaker Country Club Coupe. The Studebaker has a straight 6. I wanted to make a video comparing the 2, but Matt does such a great job

[@Michael-pi8ps]

Isn’t it also kinda nice that two of the most revolutionary car companies are both American? We forget that Ford as a company is an incredible achievement and so is Tesla. They took something previously unavailable to the public and gave it actual potential. That’s not nothing.

[@nobody7817]

"...you barely have to slow down for a cliff..." OMG that was PERFECT! I do appreciate your comparison!

[@iFerg]

In love with your videos since the Porsche one

[@angryboianimates4444]

Hi sir big fan

[@XmarkedSpot]

You're one of the few for whom i've turned adblock off. Love what you're doing.

[@markm0000]

Get premium. It’s so much better.

[@joe_moms_lover]

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[@markm0000]

@@joe_moms_lover you do realize you’re sharing your Google login with a unauthorized app. Even adblock will capture your logins.

[@DerSchoermbro]

@@markm0000 Adblock won't capture your login... It just blocks certain elements from loading, nothing to do with logins or secure connections

[@100percentnothing]

@@markm0000 Google knows your logins and so much more so don't act like you care about that stuff.

[@Chris.Wiley.]

It's always a good day when SuperfastMatt drops a video 🙂

[@erebostd]

Now do the first car ever (Benz Motorwagen) against the newest Mercedes electric vehicle! That would be such a blast 😁👍👍

[@VintageAmmoTim]

This is the first video I watched from you somewhere around a week ago. And sadly I must say that I have worked my way through the majority of your videos already…and all because you are fu*#ing hilarious. Seriously, you’re humor on here is refreshing; please continue with the never ending sarcasm and dead pan humor. And never forget that your best friend is Mr. Schadenfreude(yes I had to look up how to spell that more than once).

[@Northbaylandscaping]

13:12 I think the quality issues are a tie because I had a friend that when he recieved his brand new Model T the paint was still wet. It was their wedding day and when his wife got in she got black paint all over her wedding dress.

[@drybread1146]

Dude, I almost wanted to disagree when you gave points to the model T over the Y (eg: diver features, off road capability), except I couldn't. Your points are valid. Sometimes simple is better.

[@nasonguy]

Simplicity definitely still counts. My newest vehicle was built in 2009. It’s a Toyota. It’s pretty darn easy to work on, on the rare occasions it needs it. My oldest vehicle is a 1943 Ford tractor. You can do just about everything on it with like 4 different tools. I’m not kidding. It is devilishly simple to work on. Nothing on it every breaks and I use it often and HARD. Most things just need adjusting, cleaning, and lubricating.

[@charlesbowers8845]

Every time I see a video that explains how to drive a model T I get so confused.

[@BlindIo42]

I appreciate the FSD shot at the end - and the honest assessment of Tesla quality and concept issues

[@sebastianorye2702]

Yep, choosing quantity over quality is a risky step, but Tesla wouldn't likely be here if it weren't for that. Oh yeah, that's another thing in common. In the US, there have only been 2 automakers that haven't gone bankrupt, that's Ford and Tesla. Though, it will be interesting how Ford comes out of this EV transition. Right now, my best guess would be that they will be much smaller, but at least alive, something that cant be said for GM.

[@GOLD117on]

That was actually pretty interesting. Never would’ve thought of the two in the same comparison.

[@gsmdo8836]

Excellent episode Matt - algorithm hailed👍

[@acf2802]

Only one of them has DRM, surveillance, and monthly subscription based features.

[@crackedemerald4930]

You could argue regular dealership maintenance is a subscription feature, because otherwise you couldn't make money selling cars.

[@acf2802]

@@crackedemerald4930 I wouldn't argue that. You can repair your own car or take it to an independent mechanic. How often your car requires maintenance is entirely dependent on your environment and your usage.

[@ikani1]

@@acf2802 and the reliability of the car. The T definitely wins out there, though my maintenance trips have been significantly less with any EV I've owned than the 2012 Ford Fiesta I had. That thing went through 6 transmissions! (double-clutch style auto, regular commute driving.. had to replace it every 25k miles or so)

[@billunderwood5453]

You can pee in less than 37 seconds???? I'm impressed. Oh to be young again.

[@CraigHair]

Still procrastinating finishing the Jag eh? 😉 Great video Matt. Fair and balanced as always. Loved that you took one away from Ford 😂

[@802Garage]

I question one part of this video. Ford has a reputation for reliability. ;)

[@neonalon]

The model T has red wheels and gray bodywork. The model Y has red bodywork and gray wheels. Coincidence? I think not.

[@jcorkable]

As frustrating as it sometimes is when you go weeks without uploading, it’s nice getting sort of a surprise bonus Saturday morning episode. I really liked this one too. Videos like this or the Porsche one make a great complement to your typical build videos. All hail the algorithm!

[@chrismartin6544]

Yea a new SFM video it’s gonna be a great year P.S. All hail the algorithm.

[@camerontechstuffs]

Is someone gonna tell him?

[@johngifford7725]

This is just about the smartest thing I've seen in a very long while. Thank you for sharing this. Great info, fantastic presentation, and outstanding production quality. Very well done.

[@Superfastmatt-On_te.legram]

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[@king_james_official]

15:08, and so does elon.

[@ACoustaDC]

This was a great video. Keep in mind, there were probably more people running around in electric cars back in 23 than in gas cars. So henry destroyed the electric car market as well. LOL!

[@jsquared1013]

There were very few electric cars by that point. Fifteen years earlier than that, maybe.

[@ACoustaDC]

@@jsquared1013 Do you like taking the joy away from people on purpose.. or do you like stumbling on it accidentally.

[@xthegrim]

That first comparison for the driving had me in stitches.

[@thecheese302]

the more things change the more they stay the same. The dive into simplicity was amazing. Did not realize that the engine operates more like a power glide where your feet are the valve body.

[@michaelbenardo5695]

Transmission, not engine.

[@thecheese302]

@@michaelbenardo5695 dang, look at that typo. thanks! i brain farted.

[@SteveP-vm1uc]

I had a very rough day, working on redecking my utility trailer and then working on my tractor, all required a lot of bending and my fused back doesn't do that anymore. So once I was done and washed up, I sat down to my computer and watched this extremely fun and funny video and actually laughed my pain away!!! So thank you very much for that, Matt!! I alllllways look forward to your videos. You never fail to amuse me.... Signed: Stoved up in Floriduh.....

[@paulegan1296]

Another fun and informative video..will success spoil SuperFastMatt? Somehow I doubt it. All hail the algorithm!

[@25Celtics]

When describing the third future car, I was expecting Matt to draw a diagram of the aerodynamic design with two booster propulsion systems, perhaps something like this: 8=>

[@rennkafer13]

Or just toss in a pic of a DeltaWing...

[@jsquared1013]

Well if you had watched his aerodynamics video, you'd know that sharp edges on the front of things are not good, and it's better for them to be round. So probably more like this: 8==D

[@TheCruxy]

That flipping up wheel on the model t is very interesting

[@spatchist]

Also seen in the early Mercedes gullwing cars , and probably some others.

[@jameshoffman552]

What utter BS about Ford having better build quality. Ford has the highest recall costs of any OEM, and Teslas from Fremont for the last 3 years are superb,.

[@wyattnyfeler7270]

My Great Grandfather wrote an autobiography and I remember reading about him driving a model t backwards up a hill to get fuel into the carb 😂

[@DrTheRich]

Little correction the Model T engine is cast Iron not vanadium steel. All other steel in the car is vanadium steel tho.

[@emmajacobs5575]

The engine *block and head* are cast iron, but the crankshaft and rods are forged steel, aren’t they?

[@DrTheRich]

@@emmajacobs5575 yes

[@bluetannery1527]

This is a rare breed of high quality youtube videos

[@nick_0]

U don’t get around much do you

[@Riiludragon]

Where's the instrument cluster on the tesla? Some kind of HUD thing? If its on the computer screen off to the right I'm going to think they are unsafe

[@aquaseafoamcrayon1739]

No need for instruments, it will drive itself by 2017, I mean 2019, I mean 2021, I mean next year for sure!

[@clonkex]

It's on the centre screen. You look there for your speed. Some people say it's fine once you get used to it, and honestly I don't think it's inherently dangerous, but it's absolutely controversial.

[@shaynegadsden]

Yeah definitely not the first car to have the gauges in the centre of the the dash

[@dennisliebig7622]

The Ford works without internet .... and can easily be repaired by own hands.

[@Superfastmatt-On_te.legram]

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[@jakemakes]

Technological advancements are great... but there's something to be said about the absolutely ridiculous price of cars today. A Model T could be bought for $4500 in todays money. In 1980, the average price of a new car adjusted for inflation was $22k. The average price of a new car in 2023 is $50k. Guess what? A 1980 car does 95% of the things a 2023 car does. We need to go back to basics, there is no reason a car should cost more than my yearly salary.

[@mechanismguy]

My old boss told me that when he was young, the steering wheel came off when driving a model T down a hill. He said he pressed all three pedals, low-rev-brake!

[@allareasindex7984]

Pressing all 3 pedals to slow down was common practice because it prevented the brake band from wearing out faster than the other two!

[@mechanismguy5059]

@@allareasindex7984 That makes sense. I think for him it was out of panic though :) He was reminded of that story as he piloted his workboat (basically a small wooden Maine lobster boat) through some modest waves. He was able to hang onto the wheel, whereas the nearest handhold for me was a vertical pole which happened to be the exhaust pipe. I guess it occurred to him that steering wheels hadn't always been a reliable handhold for him.

[@cheesedoff-with4410]

No plastic on the Model T? Not even a smidgen of bakelite? Great video. I loved it. Thanks

[@shaynegadsden]

Would depend on the version but if it had no electrical system then no bakelite

[@DeadBaron]

was the Model T really that slow? Or was it just an early model? I thought they could reach 50mph (though you shouldn't)

[@SuperfastMatt]

I found some numbers online showing faster top speeds, but that was the actual speed of this Model T

[@DeadBaron]

@@SuperfastMatt Poor thing must just be old and tired :(

[@TheOtherBill]

@@DeadBaron Nah, it's barely broken in!

[@allareasindex7984]

Given a good tuneup and favorable road the T might go faster than 40. But the tires, brakes, suspension, engine oiling, crankshaft bearings, etc were totally inadequate for that speed.

[@Felipera_]

Something about breaks being oil soaked cotton bands rubs me off the wrong way lmao

[@ogzombieblunt4626]

I would be curious to see how many sketchy build quality model Ts were delivered, the expectations were so much lower considering it was literally the first mass produced car.

[@Redmenace96]

Good point. I've never seen any information on that. Consumer satisfaction had not been invented, yet? Ha, ha. If you bought it, it was good enough and you were happy.

[@dunklematerie3990]

it would be a dream for me to have either of these 2 vehicles.

[@DrTheRich]

A drivable Model T is pretty affordable. You can get one for 6 to 8k if you don't mind it not being very shiny restored. I drive a model A daily, bought for 13k and I'm 30

[@IeeIee778]

@@DrTheRich how reliable and easy is it to get parts for?

[@DrTheRich]

@@IeeIee778 Very, not many parts that can break, just make sure you check everything and grease the moving connections every so often. The car has very little plastic pieces (it has some bakelite parts) and no sensors, which is what most often fails on modern cars. And the gravity fed flat head engines just keep running forever. And the times I had something wrong, everything is easy to get to and fix on the side of the road if you know what you're doing. The only time i had to be towed was when i had a flat tire, and my spare tire was still bad and just decorative (i've replaced that one with a new now) Parts are readily available, especially in the US since there are so many still driving around, there is a healthy economy in reproduction and refurbished parts. outside US where i live, it depends on the country. Mine has pretty sizable Model A community, and some webshops that regularly import parts. If you learn to do basic car repair yourself (anything short of body work or engine machining) it's not that much more expensive or even less than upkeeping a quickly rotting away modern tin and plastic car

[@DomingoDeSantaClara]

You can buy manual buttons for a Tesla, just use an app to assign functions. Some things just seem quicker and easier with a physical button rather than having to scroll through a menu just to change the ac or heater settings, especially while driving.

[@sallerc]

What are they called, which company make those buttons?

[@DomingoDeSantaClara]

@@sallerc the company is called Enhance, the product is called s3xy buttons. I saw the ad on the latest Munro Live video, scroll to the last part to see how it works.

[@sallerc]

@@DomingoDeSantaClara Thanks!

[@SetsuneW]

15:08 Given what he's been posting, you can go ahead and put that arrow above both cars.

[@ashleyhamman]

When the point got added on Tesla I was like "I can't wait to see how poorly this ages."

[@jsquared1013]

Tell me you don't understand things further than what the media tells you think, without directly stating it.

[@SetsuneW]

@@jsquared1013 Just write "sheeple" and save us some time, yeah?

[@lamarkelsaw9740]

*Model T* (“Requires effort and brain power to drive) -Meanwhile *Tesla* (“hEHE! pEDaLL gO VRoOOm! 🤪”) -BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@FlintTD]

My guess for cars from 2123? Probably a return to better off-road capabilities like the Model-T. Also, probably an electric drive system like the Model-Y. Synthesis.

[@faustinpippin9208]

current ev cars are stupid, the right to repair basically dosn't exists The best car would be a velomobile, some need only 150 watts to go 60km/h, That's 100 TIMES more efficient then current evs, Current evs need a 500kg battery that uses rare earth minerals that are mined by children in terrible conditions, current EVs also need rare super chargers to charge your car in a reasonable amount of time These super chargers put a lot of strain on the grid and sometimes are more expensive then if you would tank with GASOLINE! And when everyone start charging their ev's the grid wont keep up and the electricity will get more expensive which means everything else will also get more expensive. Meanwhile a velomobile could charge from a normal house outlet(3600watts max) and get like 200KM of range from 16 MINUTES of charging if you have a 1KW/H battery I know that I can't go on a camping trip with my family in a velomobile or transport a couch from Ikea but how often people do stuff like this?

[@SexyEarHair]

Dont really like teslas but let me say some stuff. That is 37 mph, barely city speeds except in huge cities. 1 person per car so congestion would be at least twice as bad or maybe more. You can charge evs in your home as well. No need for the super chargers unless you are going on a trip or long miles. And its not just camping, moving furniture or stuff like that. It's also going to the grocery store, carrying a briefcase or backpack for work, taking your children to school, or going on the highway/interstate to commute. If you are that worried about it all, invest in buses. They solve almost all the issues and are better for cities

[@faustinpippin9208]

@@SexyEarHair 50km/h was just a example for the 150watts, you can drive them way faster, and btw in what cities 50km/h is barely city speeds? where tf do you live? In my country everyone drives 40-45km/h even outside of the cities because people are scared of the speeding tickets that can literally make them homeless, "1 person per car so congestion would be at least twice as bad or maybe more"- velomobiles could be for 2 people easily (the passenger seat behind you) and when I see cars on the road most are used by only 1 person, and the congestion wouldn't be so bad because they are way smaller then normal cars "No need for the super chargers unless you are going on a trip or long miles"-well not everyone lives in the US suburbia with in 300m square homes with a private garage. "And its not just camping, moving furniture or stuff like that. It's also going to the grocery store, carrying a briefcase or backpack for work"-stuff like that can easily fit into a velomobile unless you buy groceries once per month

[@crackedemerald4930]

I mean, petrol is extracted in sketchy countries with leaky pipelines and refined in nasty hazardous places.

[@SexyEarHair]

@@faustinpippin9208 Most city limits have a speed limit of 35-45 mph. Highway speeds (not interstate) regularly sit at 55. Most people go about 10 mph over the speed limit at all times. Even though they are smaller than normal cars, if everyone had one instead of sitting 1-5 people, it wouldn't matter how small they were. it would take a minimum of 3 to seat the same as a car would. And cars can carry all those peoples stuff where as a velomobile couldn't. Your counter point doesn't make sense. You can charge a tesla at home off your wall socket, the chargers in the city are for topping up during the day, which if you charge over night you don't have to worry about unless you are driving more than 200 miles which most people aren't doing during daily commutes or similar. Even if you don't have a garage, you can still plug up at home with an extension cord rated for that power. Lets be generous and say family of 4. Mom dad two kids. They grocery shop pretty much at least once a week. If not more. They fill up the trunk with groceries. You cant do that on a glorified scooter.

[@faustinpippin9208]

@@SexyEarHair I see you didnt read or just didnt understand..let me say again. It can go faster then 50km/h Most people drive 50km/h at most (not everyone lives in the US) This would be just a commuter for max 2 people and it wouldnt make the traffic worse because most cars on the road today carry 1 person anyway You can charge a tesla from a wall socket (3600wats) but you will get only 6km of range per 16min of charging VS the velomobile 320km because a tesla uses around 15kwh/100km and a velobile around 0.3kwh/100km which means you dont have to look for a supercharger when you run out of your battery And I want to remind you again that not everyone lives in the US suburbia, many people live in flats, you can't run a extention cord from your apartment thru the street to your car. "Lets be generous and say family of 4. Mom dad two kids. They grocery shop pretty much at least once a week. If not more. They fill up the trunk with groceries" how much do you people eat holy shit

[@ThatRcThing]

Something tells me in 100 years you won't be able to pull a tesla out of a field and get it going again quite as easily as the ford

[@twinturbotaj]

I disliked because instead of showing your own creativity in a project, this seems like a content video about the corporate matrix lullaby sponsored by car companies.

[@syroalto]

Saying that you can drive a tesla off a cliff and be fine is kind of ironic because some guy drove his family off a cliff in a tesla and was not fine.

[@Superfastmatt-On_te.legram]

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[@redFurry303]

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[@backmarker44]

That was even more entertaining and educational than I'd expected. I wound up here largely for the projects, but that was super rad; well done! (And holy crap that Model T window mechanism... I haven't experienced that feeling about gears since visiting the watch collection at the Science Museum in London...)

[@poplaurentiu4148]

He He.. even today i would still choose that model-T over the Tesla because it is better overall.. it can go even thru fields where the Tesla would obviously get easy stuck and not even mention the fact that when are sold for the model-T price at any auction one could get at least 2 Tesla.. Ohh and BTW i'm European..

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

@@poplaurentiu4148 its even better when the vehicle isn't completely jacked up like this sad excuse for a model T they used...

[@spinnetti]

The Model T (especially the interior) look like the Minecraft version of the Model Y

[@MegaWilderness]

The most important feature has been overlooked and is just as important today. The price. The winner will always be the biggest bang for the buck. VW Beetle, Toyota Corolla, so many examples including the first Model T.

[@4literv6]

The average corolla sold in 2021 cost over 31k(we don't have 2022 numbers yet) The last vw beetle(a car Hitler was directly responsible for bringing into existence way back in the day) yeah those aren't cheap either. And suck to do any maintenance on as well.

[@MegaWilderness]

@@4literv6 That's not the Corolla I'm talking about, it's evolved into an abomination

[@4literv6]

@@MegaWilderness one of my neighbors has one that's a couple years old now. Couldn't believe it when he shared it cost them over 30k. It's not any nicer imo than our little beater ford fiesta se from 2018 which cost us just 12k brand new at the end of 2018. 🤔

[@Colt45hatchback]

I know the corolla he means, the 70's and 80's ones. The ones some kid can abuse in a paddock for 10 years after being mums daily for 20 years, then i come along 10 years since it last ran, put a battery and fresh fuel in it and drive its beaten up rusty, muddy ass 100km home and it doesnt even overheat. 1977 ke30 se sedan. Bought it for some parts for my 78 and 79 corollas.

[@kustomzone]

I'd dock Ford another point for: . "Ford never built a vehicle with the Model E name, but it has sued [and threatened in Tesla's case] to keep other automakers from using it, saying that Model E sounds too much like Model T." .

[@Digitalstorm007]

Lmfao, ford having some form of reputation for quality. Yea right. They build the shittiest cars I've ever seen.

[@RyanWithAviators]

Incredible comparison that rivals the comparison reviews seen on topgear back in the day. Bravo.

[@abbynormal7538]

Fascinating! Extremely informative. Funny, when I saw the title of this video, I was thinking of the time I saw a Model T next to a Lunar Rover. Never knew the Model T was so complex to drive. (will never complain about manual driving again.) Plus, why does the Tesla NOT come with a spare? I used to work for a auto glass company & replacements for Model T glass was surprisingly available, however, now (or then), the replacement glass was tempered glass. (Legal / regulation? Safer - Yep) Your friends Model T looks amazing.

[@abbynormal7538]

@@dr5290 Wow, no more spares?! Did not know that. Though I haven't owned a car in a decade or two either. oh well.

[@alsavage1]

Neither my 2010 Sienna nor my 2014 RAV4 EV (with a Tesla drivetrain) had spare tires from the factory: both were supplied with tire-goop-in-a-can and the RAV4 with a 12v air compressor.

[@TassieLorenzo]

Modern cars don't come with spare tyres as it saves space and weight.

[@jordanlewis3790]

Teslas havent changed the way i think about cars at all

[@6891s]

well no cars can changed the way i think about cars at all cuz they like a horseless carriage but some with more passion than others

[@NekoBloxYT]

There also plenty of prof that peoplr destroying teslas because they hate it making it looks like have a bad quality when the owners back

[@Pecola1FromScratch]

13:50 Ouch. Looking at the numbers today, unfortunately I'd point to recall numbers and continued problems as evidence that Ford no longer has this reputation. They had #1 recall numbers this past year, Tesla I think was #3, so still also not great.

[@bluetannery1527]

the king is back

[@randomniss8676]

Idk if you’ll ever see this but I love your videos I look forward to every release

[@SuperfastMatt]

:)

[@TJPDmember]

I really like the intake/exhaust manifold stud design! Curious to what kind of gasket/feature they use to seal that.

[@WreckRod]

There are 2 intake ports and 4 exhaust ports. In a stock T there are 6 guide rings, these are just sheet metal rolled into a ring. Then 2 gasket cards, each with 3 holes for the ports, with cutouts so they hang on the studs. It’s a bit of pain to juggle both manifolds, make sure the rings are in place, and that the gaskets are also in place, AND THEN tighten the 4 nuts that clamp all of it against the block.

[@TJPDmember]

@@WreckRod I guess it is! hahaha We've been in need of a third hand for a while.

[@thedahlins]

The curb rash was likely from the delivery, not exactly something Tesla would know about...

[@matthewwilson4592]

This old tony meets top gear= super fast matt

[@alexgallagher4594]

yes in that both are built by mega racists. that is the similarity

[@shakinspider]

15:07 I mean. So does elon arguably

[@rickitysplitz7035]

Actually, not. lol

[@wheels2fun526]

Love how this guy is a hypocrite when it comes to Musk. I was just reading on twitter the guy who has this channel deletes anything when he is challenged.

[@ackraux1010]

I thought this was just going to be a stereotypical crapping session on Tesla, but no I was completely wrong. Very compelling arguements on why Tesla or Ford won a point

[@danpickett9103]

You've explained why my father, born in 1910, would say he was married and had kids before he ever drove anything that had brakes. Thank Matt.

[@benthomson2780]

Though the model T was not the fastest or most luxurious car of the 1920s, still incredibly clever and innovative for the auto industry, and I’m sure was a godsend to the lower middle and lower class families