1933 SS JAGUAR BARN FIND - SS2 - what should I do with this very rare car?

[@lars-eriklundin6845]

It deserves to be fully restored. Looking forward to see you work on it

[@paulgammidge-jefferson9536]

A car that rare deserves to be fully restored. What a find.

[@Jonnythebaker]

Absolutely amazing project, a real example of British engineering, please keep it as original as possible, even though it is a massive commitment and may take many years it would become the centre of attraction wherever it was displayed. Our heritage is important especially in today's environment. Bill Lyons was a very respected individual and futuristic engineer how lovely the E Type looks today and you have the forerunner of that car. I do hope you make the right decision. Best wishes from an 80 year old retired Coventry toolmaker.

[@lablackzed]

Your not starmers dad by any chance.👁😳😱😂

[@WeeShoeyDugless]

​@@lablackzed😂😂😂😂

[@Jonnythebaker]

@lablackzed I could be, but if I was and he wanted to vote for labour, a clip round the ear would ensue, thinking about it, both ears would have been clipped.

[@lablackzed]

@@Jonnythebaker 😂😂😂😂👍🍺

[@Dave5843-d9m]

The post war British car industry failed, because every good engineer was working on military projects. How else could we make Vulcan bombers and Lightning fighters both of which first flew less than 10 years after the end of WW2.

[@ianbrinckman7256]

Full restoration please would be fantastic cheers Ian.

[@timwerner001]

Great find! Given its rarity, a full restoration seems like the most appropriate path, but as you say, that's big money, time, etc. Perhaps opportunities for partnerships and/or sponsorships will arise when you start to display it. Thanks for sharing your great stewardship.

[@larryreece1403]

What a great find! I think with such a rare car it has to be restored. Might I suggest to do that in stages. Get the Chassis sound and make it a driver. Then as time and funds are available Bring back the body.

[@GordonStephen-j7s]

My personal view would be for you to fully restore the SS to its former glory. I have watched your videos before and I know that you have the skills and talent to do a perfect restoration. Because of all the history you received along with the car regardless of the time it will take you, you will have a very unique and valuable car at the of the day. I would love to see you restore the car. This is just my opinion but I know you will do a fantastic restoration. If you restore the car I hope that I catch all the videos that you post on the restoration.

[@jonathanspanswick9854]

Brilliant find, sounds like it’s in safe hands.

[@peterkilner512]

oilly rag runner All the best Peter

[@gregself6203]

The car is so rare it would be a shame not to do a full resto. If you can't do it please pass it on to someone who will. Watching with anticipation.

[@kevinvile5223]

Hi Tom, defo restore to original as possible, you won't regret it, lovely find.

[@simoncarney9944]

What a fabulous project Tom! I could see the excitement in your face. Personally, I think it’s important to keep it as original as possible, it’s too important to make it a special. It’s a huge responsibility on your shoulders but you’re very skilled in this sort of work. If I had the money I’d try to help you out. I’m sure it would be a great project for KZbin, I’m hooked already!

[@Growlingv8]

This is quite beautiful Tom….I’m so looking forward to following your initial early progress of stiffening up and getting it moveable. It would be brilliant to see a full restoration but respect your decision (whatever that ultimately is) in terms of both time and financial commitment .

[@leslieaustin151]

I think the right person has got this car. Will keep an eye on your work here! Les

[@PerrieHulett]

Wow, just wow. That has to be one of the best finds in recent years. I normally prefer an oily rag car left with all its patina but I think this is so important it deserves a full restore. Definitely do not special it, I am currently building a Morris 8 special but your car is to important historically I think. Thank you for sharing this with us all.

[@DLee1100s]

I trust you will keep us all fully updated throughout the next chapter in this car's journey.

[@greg5639]

Wow ! Just found your channel this morning and couldn't resist subbing in the hope that you do rebuild this beautiful car . Obviously I have to watch your other video ,me duck .👍

[@michaellittler2616]

I would preserve it trying to retain it's originality as much as you can no new shiny paint but that's just my thoughts, great find looking forward to seeing you working on it what ever you choose to do with it thanks for sharing it

[@Dave5843-d9m]

The original paint is long past protecting the car. It also makes it look uncared for. However repaint it with an original looking finish. Modern paints provide long term protection that a car like this deserves.

[@RobertHayes-tu5fp]

One of the most amazing cars I've seen on youtube! I would say a restoration is called for as it is historically so important. I guess it will end up in a collection as what would an ordinary Joe such as myself do with it? You are hardly going to pop down to Lidls in it to get some shopping!

[@chrispenn715]

Apart from the Jaguar heritage collection, I've only ever seen one of these: A beautifully restored one that has been on the Felixstowe Classic Car Run a few times. Won't be cheap or easy, but definitely worth the pain of restoring this one 👍

[@frankxerri1564]

Amazing find Tom, this car being so rare should be restored You have the skills to do it Ultimately it’s your car and you need to make the right choice for you

[@joescully566]

You deserve this Tom because it should be in the hands of somebody who has the craftsmanship that you have. Please don't assume that any part of this new project will be boring to us, because it won't. I for one, will value you're keeping us a part of your adventure. Best of luck, Joe

[@johnsheppard7935]

You are a brave man Tom! Even just to get it running again will be a huge amount of work, I'll look forward to following progress what ever you decide is achievable.

[@boydsargeant7496]

It could be your life long project, so it’s always in the background slowly moving forward. I agree with your thoughts, get it solid, running and driving and it doesn’t need to look pretty for that. Then you can be going down the pub and doing events in it. Over the years you can make it better and look better, what else you going to do when you retire🤣 keep as original as practically possible. Good luck. Great project.

[@colinkeen2085]

Happy you made a video of it in this condition.

[@paulmuff9883]

Hi I’ve two 1934 SStwo’s one is a saloon and one a Tourer , looking forward to you restoring this pice of history ❤

[@guygabriel6251]

Lovely project!

[@anthonybedford]

What an exciting restoration project! The reality is that the wooden body structure will need. To be remade from scratch. You have saved the car. My suggestion would be to sell the car on to an individual or organization with the deep pockets needed to contract out the woodwork to a specialist and subsequently complete the restoration of this historic piece.

[@alastairwilson457]

Deserves a full restoration, maybe in conjunction with one of the big museums

[@Michael-gw6nj]

Wow ! What a find look forward to the restoration 👍🇬🇧

[@The_Cotswold_Engineer]

Beautiful 😍 love the patina on it, so would be great to do a sympathetic restoration but then that would take as much time and effort as a complete nut and bolt restoration!

[@thestormforce5]

MS Tom, What a find! Remember, it is only original once. Please consult experts in other fields of collection. Antiques in original condition are more valuble than one with total restoration, i.e. 18th century furniture, or vintage Rolex watches. That car can be rehabilitated to road safe condition with careful consideration to preserving the finish, wooden parts, interior and running gear etc. Please keep in as original and you can. It will be almost priceless.

[@kurushdalal]

What an absolutely fascinating piece of history. Thank you for saving it and sharing it.

[@johncollier608]

What a fabulous find. Going to be interesting to see what you do. Whatever you decide, you're saving a peice of SS/Jaguar history - a nobel endeavour. Thanks for sharing.

[@lestrem11]

Amazing story, well done for taking it on. You may want to reach out to people who could assist financially because they love classic cars and would love to see it restored. The museum at Gaydon of course and get some publicity through the National newspapers and classic car magazines. Good luck, keep us posted . Harry Metcalfe must know every contact in the country, he might be a good place to start? It’s up to you, it’s your car now.👍

[@jonathanspanswick9854]

I believe that back in the day these cars were often used as the basis for “nuts and bolts” replicas of SS100’s but today this would be sacrilegious. It would be great to see a sympathetic restoration maintaining as much of the original as possible along with a fair dose of its patina.

[@tinkeringinthailand8147]

It's a lovely car Tom, and yes, I'm with you, I think the patina is just amazing and I'd be reluctant to change that. Good luck, I'll be watching ;)

[@65cj55]

Very nice, i would do like you said and get it together and rolling, then take it to some shows etc, with a story board and donation box.

[@seantaylor5660]

What a project. Congratulations. I would love to see a full restoration on this car. It is pretty and it would be fantastic to see it back to its original glory. My 2 cents. 😊

[@philiphartley8823]

Some car historians have said that SS was for Standard Special as they were mostly based on Standard chassis,' engines and running gear. Personally I think the car shoule be repaired (as opposed to restored) and returned to working condition, but kept in as near as practical & feasible in this visual condition.

[@Jonnythebaker]

@@philiphartley8823 SS is Swallow Sidecars

[@SuperRetroville]

Im so glad that this car has gone to a good home. I saw it and all the spares when it was before. Since the car is essentially a MKII Standard little nine (1933 model designation) with an SS coachbuilt body, I would recommend joining the Standard motor club. This will give you access to the digital archives where you can download the parts lists and service manual etc. for the different little nine variants which will allow you to work out which spares actually appropriate for the car. Standard put a part number on most things! Spares are harder to come by that for more common makes, but a wanted ad in the SMC magazine can produce a result for things too rare to be listed on the web shop. Good luck. I cant wait to see it coming together. A rare and worthy project.

[@markstokes5365]

I love that. So jealous of you finding that. A long but very worthwhile project.

[@colinbrown4893]

What a project to take on. Would be amazing too see it completed. Which ever choice you make.

[@adrianw.1638]

I am so happy with you, Tom! Congratulations!

[@richb419]

Hi, very cool find! I had a job years ago rebuilding a model A truck, that is when my dad started talking about the wood shipping crates that were used within the car. sure enough, the wood still had the stencils on it, Rich 😅 from across the pond

[@outsider7658]

I must admire Your upcoming challenge! I and my late wife, mowed to New Zealand, unfortunately, had to leave. Another story. But, what I planned to do, was to make parts for those beautiful Jags there. The climate there, is eating up, those beautifuls cars. Thus my challenge. IU admire Your work, and will follow Your videos/upcoming work. from a Finn, still in another, Diaspora

[@lipsee100]

What a lovely car,,Sir Bill Lyon s certainly had an eye for shape and form ..I hope you restore it,,its a big commitment on your part,,but still at the end it would be worth it.. Main thing you have todo whats right for you.

[@alexchappell7050]

It's rare and very complete, with history, so deserves restoration. I'd only build a special if I had to make most of it.

[@ianmckeand2265]

That’s lovely. I hope you will restore the original body, those little coupes are very rare.

[@marciabaldwin2506]

Absolutely brilliant and amazing. Tom, even in its current condition, you can see its beauty. Like so many, I have seen them in books it's in amazing hands. Will check out simons video too. Personally I think it needs to be kept original ❤

[@rickbishop9948]

One hell of a commitment need for this one Tom! good luck

[@hughbryant1326]

What an historic project. Whatever you decide re. the way forward I'm sure you'll do it justice. My father always bought and sold cars of this vintage and so I grew up with a love of them. Quality over quantity. Good luck and best wishes.

[@H1WEX]

What a find, congratulations!

[@daviddjerassi]

FANTASTIC If anyone can return this car full of great history back to original you can your work is off the scale congratulations and good luck.

[@johnnybeer3770]

Wish i was young enough to be involved in a project like this , i love pre-war cars . Regardless of time , you must go for a full restoration . 🇬🇧

[@dcarter001]

Subscribed ! this should be a interesting couple of years. I think its a worthy project and seeing how your a metal man i look forward to watching your skills in action.

[@russellnixon9981]

Great find see why you are so exceled, personally I would give it the full restoration simply because of its rarity and its know history it and its mark, Jaguar has a big following world wide increasing its potential value to collectors and museums. The good part is it looks like its all there so you have a pattern to work off and the metal bits are not rusted away. So full restoration gets my vote. Look forward to seeing what becomes of it.

[@RedHotChilliMe]

Incredible 🧐🫶🇬🇧🥇

[@lucifarian93]

I had a DKW F7 in similar condition but I'm self employed and realised I didn't have the time and money and subsequent dedication required. A great era for car design and I wish you success in your vision.

[@christopherdavies5125]

Back in about 1955 our next door neighbor had an SS which looked very much like yours as far as I can remember, it was the pride of his life, it was black and green. I was about 15 at the time and into Austin sevens (I had 3 at the age of 15). At the moment I cannot remember his name, but we lived in Surrey. Would love to see it brought back into a usable condition, but not restored to an inch of its life!

[@eyuptony]

Make it runnable and safe as is so you can see and appreciate all the old workmanship. Make new parts that are needed or strengthened where required. Then a good clear coat of clear AC lacquer, so you can see all the patina on it, like now. Let someone else make an exact replica of it as if it were restored. Once you restore it, you'll lose all that character. It will just become another shiny car among many with all that history covered up. I'm sure it will turn more heads this way and appeal to a wider audience. Great find. Good luck either way. Looking forward to your decision and the following project.

[@ianwilsonautograph]

Hello Tom, what a fantastic opportunity. Please don' make a 'special' from this superbly original car. Bring it back to life. My dad had an SS2 when I was born, and he always regretted selling it. Registration was DZ663 in Belfast. I would love to have found his car, but no luck. I have some old photographs, and will send them to you. I did see the green SS2 at Goodwood, and it brought back many memories. All the best, it will be a beautiful car. Regards, ian

[@Metal_shaper_tom]

Thank you Ian 👨‍🏭

[@torrerobb2238]

A car that is so rare and complete deserves a full restoration.. Robb Torremolinos Spain

[@malcolmyoung7866]

So rare an example needs to be restored and driven. 4 years of evenings and weekends take some commitment having been in a similar situation myself I can say it’s not the greatest experience. The end result however is well worth it. Jaguar Cars Ltd are having a tough time at this very moment it would be nice to see a car from the early days be saved but also enjoyed. There is cool… then there is SS Jaguar cool. SUBSCRIBED!!

[@anthonygrodecki7968]

I think your new car comes from the time when the company if remember right moved from I think Blackpool. I look forward to seeing your progress. Don’t listen to people telling you what to do. Make of it what you want. I hope she is back on the road. Good luck 😊

[@neilwilliams6716]

What an incredible find, I'm quite jealous 😊. I like the idea of reassembling it and getting it as near complete as possible and showing it before committing to a final decision. I would personally love to see it fully restored, but I am well aware of the time and financial commitment that would take. Great video, anyway.

[@ColinStewart-h5q]

Brilliant must restore

[@antonydye5101]

A very good find personally think it should be restored for history

[@latterdaysaint6582]

Congratulations on getting this incredible car my late uncle's step father and mother had an original ss jaguar from the 1930s I remember my uncle saying that the car was amazing but back in them days they didn't like going over ramps apart from that stunning car lovely piece of history well done and keep up the amazing work you do mate

[@johnpowell5433]

For what it's worth, I'd repair and preserve the car as it is. Keep it as authentic as possible, even down to the red paint. It may not be the original colour but it's 65+ years old. I have a pre-war photo of my dad sitting in an SS2 at Brooklands. I'll send you a copy.

[@noelosullivan6782]

Tom, I believe you should go with conservation. You have so much of the original to work with, and it would be a shame to lose that by restoring it to 'as new'. Best of luck and I look forward to following the project.

[@iansimpson9351]

If it was mine I would get it up and running, sympathetically repair and renew the body, oily rag it, preserve its patina and history, then use it as it was indented to be used, on the road not in a museum. Whatever you decide I am looking forward to your future videos on it.

[@MickRiley]

Nah, too thin on the ground to do that type of restoration. This is a hall of Fame car and needs total restoration as doing a part restore would just wear it out eventually.

[@karlwakeman8499]

Such a rare vehicle deserves to be restored as it was originally ordered, with so few left around the world, for example, you said it was ordered in Green and Black which would look so much classier than the red

[@TheLRider]

Tom, so happy that it's been bought by you, a man who will recreate this car with your own hands. The owner obviously thought the same.. Rather than selling it to the highest bidder who would have it restored by others as so many other classics have gone. Puts a bit of pressure on I suppose. Keep it safe and best of all the luck..

[@johncook3817]

Good find and good luck you will be needing it!!😊

[@steveanderson3942]

I'm an old school hot rod guy, but it's crying out for a full resto, so I would say get it back on the road anyway you can but keep everything sympathetic to it's heritage ❤

[@charleskinney6022]

this car is in good hands. good luck

[@seanalexander9531]

What an amazing find!

[@marcuscoquer5958]

That is a find!

[@dennismccarthy7032]

❤ brilliant ❤

[@southworthdt5]

In the years of WWII, our dad ran a car like this for a few months. It was red with a long bonnet and that little side valve engine, It was an SS. We lived near Warrington in Lancashire. I was only about 10 but I can remember it

[@ianperry9914]

Just get her put back together mechanically good , make good the body , a dust of paint to represent her original colours and use . A difficult choice to make though . Good on you ,I shall follow to see how you get on .

[@phillip9468]

I reckon that someone who's Grandad owned a Jaguar dealership has boxes of NOS sitting in a garden shed or barn. As they are so rare & there's so many spares with it, things such as generators, regulators, starter motors & other electrics from that era are re -buildable. It actually looks like every part that has required replacing on the car since new, has been kept.

[@robertfrye5161]

I know nothing about them, so your video was enlightening. You have a piece of history, it needs to be saved. I saw a video of a rare Land Rover being restored and driven. If you sell it, be sure it is to a restorer.

[@russellbenning240]

Nice car.

[@sleepingdogs8939]

You really should do a full restoration. It's too rare to do anything other than that. I'm certainly interested in seeing future videos on the work you do on the car.

[@dougyoung221]

Bring it back.✌️

[@MathildeHennecke]

Quite amazing! Maybe involve Jaguar themselves since it is such an important car? Good luck!

[@garethmillar6685]

It is to far along for an oily rag wipe over. It has got to be the full resto considering your skills Tom and the parts you have with the car. A special wouldn't be the way to go. Looking forward to seeing whatever you do decide.

[@DavePocklington]

I agree with most of the other comments, in that a full restoration should be undertaken. Just thinking of the history is amazing. It was delivered in January 1933, just 25 days before a certain Austrian became chancellor of Germany, and the letters SS would become world renowned for British automobile manufacturing. While in Germany those letters would gain fame for all the wrong reasons.

[@peterbonnez]

Such a beauty -

[@randomDIYguy-k4r]

Fantastic find. I think it could be beautiful either as a faithful original restoration or using the parts you have as a launch point for a "re-interpretation" based on the original. The fact that it's so well documented and so rare leans me toward a faithful restoration - but ultimately the answer to this question is which project excites you more? If you feel the passion for a faithful restoration and it takes twice as long (whether for the work itself or to collect the funding) you won't get to the finish and say "this would have been great if only I could have finished it quicker. But having taken so long, it kind of sucks." Other way: if originality doesn't carry value for you, don't make the extra investment originality requires.

[@richardjones5255]

A first rate restoration project if I ever saw one. Good luck.

[@RR-mt2wp]

Fantastic find, Tom.

[@John-boy]

A friend bought a 1936 MG TA in a similarly totally dismantled condition that had never started restoration by the previous owner who died. It took him a few years to get it back to original condition making most of the wooden and metal parts himself and some parts from the MG club in the UK. IT LOOKS MAGNIFICENT ! Looks better than new. Restore it.

[@iandonkin6762]

Sympathetic restoration would be lovely, if one hell of a slog! It's in the right hands though - lovely thing to see!

[@dandavis9614]

No question here - A full restore must be done.

[@bobarmour597]

Superb find.... Get it to a rolling restoration would be my recommendation, then enjoy it as you improve it.... Otherwise it'll be 'all pain' and much money for many years I suspect

[@WeeShoeyDugless]

That car surely deserves to be fully restored. If you personally can't afford it, or don't have the time, you ought to pass it on? I remember one of these sitting in a scrapyard in Scotland for many years back in the late 60s, early 70s. No idea what happened to it though. Good luck on whatever you decide👍🏻👍🏻

[@daleskidmore1685]

Tom, Tom, Tom! Wow, what a great project! Stunning car. I love Jags and have always been struck at how you can see their DNA running through the models from the very earliest times, almost like the next car was a re working of the drawing of the previous one. There are shades of the Wolseley Hornet Special and Morris Minor Doctor's Coupe in this beautiful looking car too, Swallow did had a hand in them. It is no easy task to decide on the treatment of this car; it is an important example of the marque after all. | follow a couple of American channels, most notably Iron Trap Garage and cars from the 30s quite often have a roof like this one, but I don't think they were for a sun roof, more likely a thin metal roof for lightness that goes first. This is exciting.