1940s vs MODERN (WW2+ vs Top Tier) - What If Both Fought - WAR THUNDER

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Today we put 1940s tanks and planes against Modern tanks and planes while outnumbered to see how well they can do against each other in War Thunder. How well can 1940s tech do against modern tech? You might be surprised but let's find out.
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[@ehmul1510]

modern ground with 1940s air vs 1940s ground with modern air incl helis

[@M1A2C.]

that would go hard asf

[@bonehead6942]

1940s ground easy win

[@M1A2C.]

@@bonehead6942 doubt it tbh, the Pantsir S1 would carry and can keep the skies clear for the modern ground, the 1940s air won't be super useful but the MBTs will be able to make up for that defecit.

[@PAllen74]

​@@M1A2C. Even the pantsir has 0 chance against a spaded top tier jet w/ a good pilot.

[@M1A2C.]

@@PAllen74 bro that's just not true, sure you can evade one Pantsir if you're skilled enough but you're not avoiding half a dozen of them.

[@hans1253]

The balls on the guys who were bringing rank 1 tanks man absolute chads🗿

[@shocknaw]

They saw me on the field and bombed me every damn round 😭😭😭

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Haha I saw that

[@LeroxYT]

They knew you were the main Boss

[@RhgCug]

You have to do, cold war vs modern day.​@@ThunderWithMuffin

[@GufGgg]

You have to do cold war vs modern ​@@ThunderWithMuffin

[@JdiduEjejj]

You have to do 1960s and 1990s vs modern technology.​@@ThunderWithMuffin

[@Fnmadelonzo._]

Light tanks are the biggest threat to the modern tanks, a lot of my buddies are top tier tanks and I’m still in 7.0, when I play with them, I use the M18. (6.0 BR, 76MM APHECBC with 180MM of penetration, top speed of 50MPH) I was able to drop a nuke in 11.7 BR in realistic battles just by flanking to the sides and shooting the modern main battle tanks that are double my BR in their side armor. In top tier, armor is second, speed is first, so if you use their logic against them with faster tanks, you should be able to kill a few just by catching them of guard with your speed.

[@M1A2C.]

this and goblin mode HE overpressure like the Sturmpanzer works well against modern vehicles

[@tankenjoyer9175]

i think any kind of artillery is op against modern.

[@merafirewing6591]

Truly the most chaotic. WW2 vehicles and aircraft always bring in alot of chaos.

[@arthurbousquet6838]

Hey, Ostwind II gameplay here ! It was really fun, with all of the chaos going around xD The first game was borderline impossible to play as an AA, we couldn't see the jets at all, so we got absolutely bombed to hell ; the next ones were better, but there was so many, going so fast that it was very difficult to predict their path and from where they would appear, which forced a more passive gameplay. Thank you Muffin for organizing theses events !

[@No_brains1]

Hello I have a question how do I participate in these battles?

[@Awesomeduck-rq1gd]

you killed me like two times in my KA-52 XD

[@nikolaideianov5092]

​@@No_brains1 You probably need to be in his discord if he has a descord server

[@Gearedfilm57]

Just remember that a majority of the outcome is highly dependent on the skill of the players. And not the vehicle they brought

[@squashiejoshie200000]

Less true in this matchup. Consider someone who only brings light tanks, recon vehicles, and jets on the modern side vs someone who just uses MBTs. Assuming they are MBTs like leopard 2, Abrams, Challenger 2, or T80-U, they would be almost unkillable from the front for the WW2 players, while the player in light tanks and recon vehicles could be blown out like candles. Toss in that even with the best jet player possible, they only have so many bombs before they need to land and rearm and the rest of the team still has to deal with many tanks per person. A ratio that's increased with each player using a jet, so if the mode is multiple objective based, the modern players simply get spread too thin. And when you have a thinly spread team with a couple of people in lightly armored vehicles and a couple more in jets, suddenly the heavier tanks have to kill almost 8 for each of them. Remember, there's plenty of scenes of a heavily armored MBT holding the line against multiple tanks and getting many kills, and almost none of a light vehicle doing the same.

[@warbirds2300]

Hey i am going to buy a top tier but using only golden Egels and from these four country’s Russia Germany usa and Britain wich top tier do you think i would like i want one that’s good for amor fire power and good speed

[@lill_hamster]

ikv 103 is from 1950 or 1960

[@artemisthehunter8360]

There's also a Ratel 20 and PT-76 at 0:57, which are 1973 and 1951 respectively

[@aks3l897]

you will never know why this comment has 0 likes.....

[@michavarkevisser3481]

I liked your comment

[@TheOwlWatches]

I also liked your comment.

[@Skibidy_rizzler_]

Trump

[@nikolajvollesen9639]

Tramp

[@aks3l897]

@@Snafu-34 you mean nnn??

[@Polkano97]

The fact that I want to be part of this so bad but am a low level player that plays URSS and hasn't even reached the t34 yet😂

[@shocknaw]

You can if you join the discord

[@Polkano97]

@@shocknaw is it okay though because I'm extremely low level ?

[@Polkano97]

@@shocknaw anyway how do I join ?

[@shocknaw]

@@Polkano97 yeah, it’s fine

[@shocknaw]

@@Polkano97 the link in the description of the vid

[@benjamencollier1777]

I would have grabbed the T-54(1949) STILL COUNTS

[@Bruh_Taiwan]

I'm the 50th viewer

[@unaveragewarthunderplayer]

Hey, muffin for some reason the link to the discord doesnt work. Could you help me with joining the discord?

[@Thewayofgrass35]

Could you make an air battle with cockpit view only?

[@artemisthehunter8360]

0:57 why tf is there a Ratel 20 and PT76 PT is 1950-60s, and ratel is 1970s

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

They got kicked

[@masterhasashi.]

I wonder if we're going to see the Churchill Petard VS Sturmtiger video as well

[@darkofmusic8801]

FINALLY A NEW MUFFIN VID!!!

[@darkstormww7479]

I mean, WWII guys shoulda brought T54s, they started in 1947 and theres a 1949 version too (1951 would get you kicked)

[@artemisthehunter8360]

Doesn't stop warrioroftheants at 0:57 from bringing the PT-76, which is also 1951

[@henrik4124]

1947 is after ww2?

[@artemisthehunter8360]

@@henrik4124 it says 1940’s tanks, not ww2

[@tankenjoyer9175]

that should be cold war

[@jonaslavicka2411]

in the video you also see a BTR-ZD which started production in the 70s

[@iskanderbaert2173]

Jozef Stalin took revenge the first second

[@Kron1cK9]

It could just be me but I am pretty sure modern Russian T-80 and T-90 turret armor is impenetrable especially with old tank guns.

[@darkstormww7479]

ngl the modern guys prolly ran out of ammo before dying once, and would nearly never miss and would always pen

[@jackcoughbendover434]

I wonder why modern MBT utilize ESS more, since they have thermal they could've just looked through the smoke making it significantly more difficult for ww2 tanks to get them. During the night match who ever had the Panther 2 would have had such a bigger advantage then the rest of the WW2 tanks since it comes with night vision, even though its not very good it's still a lot better then not having it. In the match at Factory the WW2 side would've had a bigger gap in victory if they all didn't just charge to A point but spread out the forces more between points, around the last bit of the match I'm sure they realized this. It's kind of ironic to be talking about kicking people who don't use WW2 tanks when there was a literal G6 a 1980s artillery piece rolling around while you were staying that and there were more instances of non ww2 tanks like the concept 3 that killed you which is also another vehicle from the 80s.

[@cerealenjoyer3000]

This whole video was so dramatic and cinematic, I love these types of war thunder videos. I also believe that the modern tanks had the upper hand in more ways than intended, with them having access to nightvision while the ww2 team didnt

[@TheOwlWatches]

I just watched a movie!

[@LZ_1945]

Bro if I was that F-16C player I would’ve brought amraams and cooked

[@RedVRCC]

Idea: Battle of the broken IFVs 20 PUMA vs 20 2S38 Variants: If 2S38s are too strong: Make them spike pumas If pumas are too strong: Add in/replace all 2S38 with BMP-2M

[@shack3490]

Video idea, players verse eachother in low tier bombers using only their gunners to take each other down. Similar to a naval battle.

[@Longshot-nm2mx]

Ww2 would win every game if they had Snaillover on their team.

[@kriskay5020]

YAY another video from the Muffin

[@biggycheese_ben]

hello thunder muffin man can i be unbanned about a year ago i tried to join the discord server but i was underage. now i am of age to join. I have dmed you on discord. Thanks

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

What’s your discord username?

[@biggycheese_ben]

@@ThunderWithMuffin i already got unbanned dont worry

[@ChristianSolanoP]

New vid This moment is what i call happiness

[@cybo1113]

It looks like fun to be in one of these vids i might try join

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Would be happy to have you join

[@johngaming0.0]

i am Jozef_stalin_81 ( the aardvark and f4u-4b )

[@warbitz5200]

Post more often please

[@wtdoober]

Why was there a guy in the 1.3 Ro-go 😭

[@michalkaminski4619]

i was the concept 3 that killed you near the end :)

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Well done:)

[@artemisthehunter8360]

Congrats. You cheated. Concept 3 was a project between 1976 and 1979. Was not around in the 1940s. still surprised at how many people cheated and got away with it.

[@michalkaminski4619]

@@artemisthehunter8360 oops didn't know ngl

[@LettuceGayming]

Why did everyone bring heavily armored vehicles? Its not standing up to modern MBT rounds, only the tutel or maus could, imo they should have gone with lightly armored vehicles with good guns, maybe a few SPGs for flavor, but mostly things like the breda 501

[@allenliu8820]

we need a redo because now America gets access to m908 which is essentially a sap round a fucking sap round with 300mm of penetration which will essentially one shot every single ww2 tank

[@IANF126]

i'd be curious to see if arcade significantly changes the performance. the top tier stuff does not care where it shoots and has things like NVD/thermals to try to find stuff. once you add hit markers and lead indicators, i think spaaing becomes easier and the lower tiered things now know what to try to shoot at and what to avoid.

[@bruhx1250]

Episode 13 of ww2 when?

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Going to be one of the next events

[@CharlesOwens-gg2ic]

not the l3 walking his maus😭

[@WarHundred]

Finally he upload

[@Militaryboz]

Yeaaaa

[@Fork_in_toaster]

Babe wake up Thunder With Muffin Uploaded

[@Alastorius510]

Patience is required in a match like this. So what I would do is turn off my tanks engine after finding a spot and waiting for the modern tanks to come to me.

[@albe501]

Need full arty vs modern tank, (type 99, AUF1, G6, sthurmtiger, etc etc)

[@lb0178]

if The T30 got to fight and was ironed out and made good it would decimate a tank with just its HE let alone the AP AP would take the front plate wiht it

[@lolxdani9996]

M22's, the old Puma's and biplanes sneak attacking the shlt out of the mbt's would have done it

[@EUDEL_BOBMAN]

damnnnn!!! this is so intense!!

[@user-ot3dg5ki7q]

I have question... WHY TF DID U STOP MAKING WOTB VIDS

[@bahadirmukan]

God, you guys should bring some Tiger 105mm and panther 2...

[@AlbertoMariaCassano]

HI im a fan of germans in1940-1945

[@darkstormww7479]

I think japan would have the best MBT's for this with their 4s reload

[@haskink7194]

I think like 3-4 2s38 might just rush right or left edge of map. If they would be in discord to coordinate their moves that will become the strong strategy i think

[@TazGaming141]

0:54 those explosions look sick asf during night🔥

[@lucasbrito7391]

remake the video of high-level anti-aircraft against WWII planes

[@huuanfighterVN]

Ww2 air players have a challenge: try to survive 10s after air spawn, those jets hunt the 1940 air down so fast, i couldn’t even get out of the spawn area

[@KOS762]

I really can't tell if your going from enemy to friendly or what is going on. are you switching to other friendly deaths or enemy? And then there is no indication of what tank your showing atm. Hard to tell who is who. I think it was a great idea, but for someone who don't play this game much, I was really lost.

[@cerealenjoyer3000]

If it helps with dealing with the confusion for this video, you can tell which side he switches to by looking at the minimap. Ww2 team is on the north side and modern team is on the south. But I do agree with the constant switching inbetween makes it a bit harder to follow especially with it being pitch black

[@cheesesniper473]

worried that you gave up on the channel. glad to see ya back.

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

I’ll never give up!

[@srkruger189]

Ww2 vehicles having a fight chance just highlightes how map design in this game is made to undermine tanks performance.

[@BelugaTheFirst]

how to be apart of these events? (is there an discord? if yes whats its name)

[@germangamingvideos6069]

Is there a version of this where people saying fuck isnt censored?

[@AlfredoN.]

1:59 i got im 😁👍

[@Chipey69]

Who remembers when he played blitz and his name was blitz with muffins😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@BETTERDarkENG]

Just imagine if the modern air just used f-111s with 3000 pound bombs

[@psychoticannoyance]

how do you get night battles with no flares i couldnt figure it out

[@JohnSmith13334]

Well at the scale of my uptiers it pretty much is like this atm. Stuck in a Panther getting destroyed

[@stranger2642]

just dont include bradley and its possible for ww2 to win

[@mehman9249]

Damn it’s been a while since I’ve been on this channel and OMG He’s upped the editing to GOD-MODE

[@AxelEverkrans-smith]

This video needs more likes and views

[@THE_YF23]

yooooo thats me in the first day battle as the Christian II :))))) i had best flank!!!

[@Mikaelvafflus-ux9uf]

New vid nice ']

[@skipslash7367]

why are you backing off when the guy's breech is out

[@DaSteeJ07]

Abrams survivability is hilariously weak

[@GameDynastyOriginal]

1m gang❤ 👇

[@WarHundred]

Yee

[@tutel7862]

How do you turn the artillery flares off in custom night battles?

[@tankenjoyer9175]

why dont you make WW2 Vs Cold war?

[@allanmcculloughjr9561]

M22 would have won every round of this

[@Ciasiab-san]

me being 5km away with 8 AGM65s

[@JonasBayer-x7s]

bro really said ww2 was an epic time 💀💀

[@_GODSFIGHTER]

Good to have you back

[@Ford-w2y]

How do we join the discord. It keeps saying link expired.

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Try this: discord.gg/rxpTrVDe

[@MinecraftGaming271YT]

Democracy vs comunism video plis

[@Prime_Sisyphus]

Youll never guess that this comment has 0 replies

[@therealeditor1343]

20:34 how du you activate that scope?

[@DreadMaps.]

why not just no air

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

Biplanes VS helicopters.

[@TheBabyCaleb]

Blue berry or chocolate chip?

[@thatguys_idea]

After a month, he’s back.

[@bodiebaylis1218]

I would love to be in a t 95

[@deancinar4384]

Top tier against m22 armada

[@Grandbucket-cn5rz]

How can the crossair glow

[@Personontheinternet4598]

When is the next ww2 vid?

[@M42_duster]

10:41 erm what the sigma 💀

[@小粒籽]

WW2 team need some pe-8

[@ABSOLUTE_SOLVER1]

20:33 How do I open it?

[@duailksatria6585]

7.7 vs 11.7 Tank

[@flix-vz7lk]

Can someone tell me his discord if he has one

[@ThunderWithMuffin]

Try this discord.gg/6hg5wcy9

[@kamykyt-p7v]

🇵🇱🇵🇱winer

[@antoninkozdera9559]

10:43 erm waht a sigma